I liked it, and definitely like that it extends the timeline in which writers can play around with.
Are there thumb downs? Sure, but don't forget Star trek never looked this good before this series.
SHORT BUT WILL COME BACK TO COMPLETE ONE DAY.
Thank you to crew and cast of this show, I appreciated your effort.
Very strong start of the series but dropping a bit back now. However I love it very much!
The effects on the bridge when they are under attack are pathetic and reminds me of a cheap game show. Endless sparks and now timed gas supplied flames from various places on the bridge activating in sequence.
Well. Discovery started off as being one of the best ever Star Treks I had seen in a long while!
The last 2 season where just a downhill battle to watch!
I'm sorry if I do offend anybody, but lately, not only with Star Trek, but a lot of other once good shows, everything is becoming more gay pride than ever and to me it just ruins a show!
Having gay scenes and men and woman kissing each other and girls that think they are not girls, but something else, just annoys me and YES, I was born in the early 70's which does make it difficult for me to actually even watch these scenes.
But to me, it just ruins a great show. And not only that, the one show with the singing and dancing! OMG! That was just the worst!
Disney, if you even DREAM of trying to do this with any Star Wars episodes it will ruins it for many many many viewers!
And I know, many of my Trekky mates already stopped watching Star Trek years ago because of the way it was heading.
Anyways.
Guys and girls and whatever you choose to be, that is your choice in life and this is just my opinion, so please don't cry.
Deal with it!
Watched only two episodes... Looks promising.
Two seasons past, the prelude finished, now I'm expecting really hard to see Discovery start on season 3. Season 1 was epic, it could be a good movie. Season 2 was more interesting, but with a too long arc, and the Enterprise to shadow things. I didn't like the plot, the AI vilan, the resolution. If the war on the first season had finish quickly, this end of a Borg-ish devil on the second was also too easy. Same mistakes. I will be expecting more changes for the third season, for the good ones, please. Everybody know Michel Burnhan very well, we can now move on beyond from that, and see a Star Trek show, focused on a alien capitan, Saru is a good choice. But I think this is not gonna happen.
Life Long Star Trek fan here,... and I'm done with this rubbish, This has gone full Woke, PC-Culture. And what is with the virtually None Caucasian cast?... Plus, the only TRUE Starfleet actors are PIKE & SARU, to which I'd be proud to have them as ambassadors for Humanity.
Is it me, or does the writing and acting on this show get worse each week?
This season :ocean: becomes more boring and preachy with each episode.
they need to rethink the tech being used, it's too far advanced for the timeline. Also far too many conflicts with the timelines. I will still watch it because it's Star Trek, but get the timing right
Oh yeah fix the Klingons....
It is StarTrek and it is great! I dont care about the realism of explosions in space or the sound of lasers. It has action, it has drama, it has Klingons! The captain is not Janeway and not Archer, the vulcan is not Spock and there is no Scotty. But it has the right look and feel and is really fun to watch. I hope it will run for a few seasons.
Really disappointed with this show and it's direction. So so sick of the cw Love story crap. It makes no sense and takes away from the story.
the show is literally going where no MAN has gone before.
because apparently an all female Star Trek is what was needed
"Star Trek: Discovery" is not just a TV show; it's a cultural mosaic set in the final frontier. It's like a cosmic Pride parade, celebrating every color of the human—and alien—rainbow. The series doesn't just push the envelope; it puts the envelope through a wormhole and into a parallel universe where diversity is the prime directive.
The bridge of the USS Discovery is a veritable Benetton ad of interstellar proportions. It's as if the casting call was a group text that said, "Hey, does anyone NOT have representation on a sci-fi show yet?" And the response was a resounding, "Beam us up, Scotty!"
Michael Burnham, our protagonist, is the epitome of a 21st-century hero(ine). She's like if Rosa Parks and Neil Armstrong had a baby, and that baby was raised by Oprah and Ellen in a zero-gravity environment. She's not just breaking the glass ceiling; she's shattering the dilithium crystal barrier.
The show tackles every social issue you can think of, and even some you can't because they haven't been invented yet. It's as if the writers' room has a checklist titled "Inclusivity Goals" and they're scoring higher than a Vulcan playing 3D chess. The Klingons have been reimagined as misunderstood outsiders, not so much the villains of the galaxy but more like that one cousin who's really into heavy metal and just needs a hug.
And let's talk about the storylines, which are more tangled than headphone wires in a pocket. The plot twists come at you faster than a tribble's reproductive rate. Just when you think you've got a handle on the multiverse, the show hits you with a revelation that makes you question reality itself.
In essence, "Star Trek: Discovery" is the avocado latte of television – it's what happens when you blend science fiction with social consciousness, then sprinkle it with a dash of cosmic dust for flavor. It's a bold journey not just into space, but into the heart of what it means to be truly woke in a universe that's as diverse as it is vast. So strap in, set phasers to 'woke', and prepare for a ride that's as enlightening as a pride rainbow. :rocket::rainbow:
By season 4 the show should be renamed to Star Trek Discovering Feeling “TO BOLDLY GO WHERE NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE..." because the show takes a major down hill turn towards taking about everyone’s feeling.
Awesome reboot / restart of the series. That ending was amazing. Can’t wait for season 2.
Damn Culber was on the rag this episode.
The title needs to be updated to Star Trek: Discovering Woke. Starts out great but takes a massive nose dive towards the Woke universe. Watch 1st & maybe 2nd season after that this show basically becomes a high budget CW show.
I've seen every episode of every iteration of Star Trek. I've seen the cast get-together interviews. I've seen the behind-the-scenes and bloopers. I've taken several years to say anything at length about Star Trek beyond my appreciation for the analogy that is The Borg. Well, here goes nothing.
Star Trek Discovery turned me onto Star Trek broadly. I was always, confidently, a Star Wars person. The campiness of the older series and the look and feel overall just did not mesh with my sensibilities, especially as a child. Discovery modernizing and evolving the in-universe technology and raising the catastrophic stakes drew me in. It, yes, suffered, particularly later in the series of what reactionaries deem "woke" bullshit that felt particularly cringey and distracting, but, on the whole of Star Trek, it's not like it's a series that doesn't belabor its character's feelings and mushy interpersonal struggles. Odo and Kira come to mind immediately. T'Pol and Trip I'd argue was clunky and Worf and Dax probably the best in how they were developed.
I think what Discovery does best is its big-picture narratives. I'm considerably less concerned about any individual crew member and they feel less "iconic" perhaps precisely because they're servicing more cliche role-fillers in service to the broader picture than meant to develop into the next Spock. I do think Stamets, Saru, and Cleveland stick out star-power-wise in general, and while I don't mind Michael, I haven't been convinced, and I think I blame that mostly on the writing than her performance.
Star Trek has the same "problem" as Star Wars. You can't erase multiple generations of people's memories and feelings about dozens of episodes or characters. A franchise has to grow and iterate to meet modern landscapes, just like a person, sometimes in direct spite of gut-level reactions about what the property means or represents. To be sure, literally no one has a singular grasp on what is or isn't Star Trek, and I take any pissed off troll-esc opinion of someone personally affronted by more gay representation or chubby body types as lazy and hateful reactionary nonsense. Today, Discovery is trying to mirror today's conversation from "Hollywood" or "left-leaning" ideas, like the show about the struggle explore, defend, and live according to universally sensitive and translatable ideals always has. If there's a larger singular note I hear from Star Trek, I'm deaf to that frequency.
The Star Trek universe is one of the most nakedly idealistic fantasies you could ask for. It tries, sometimes, to lay a larger claim on the way we achieve its vision than feels remotely possible or even fleetingly sane, but the exact same impulse that turned me off as a a child keeps me intrigued as an adult. I didn't want goofy pontificators lecturing and awkwardly conveying an unconvincing struggle. That, still, turns me off whenever it comes up across any of the series, regardless of who's saying it. (Seriously, no one finds Sisko absolutely exhausting?) This universe is the bridge between the cynical Star Wars and the painful naivety of shows on The CW. It commits no bigger sin than any classic insanely-long-running franchise that attracts too-personal idealists to show run. The, by definition and existential circumstance, ever-fluid identity starts to crack because it has to as things evolve.
If you can learn and grow and change, but maintain your identity and through-line relationship to the franchise, the brilliant and compelling parts will shine considerably brighter than the cringe. Star Trek is daring you to believe in yourself like it does.
Need to add season 3 as season 4 has started.
all myhope is for season 3, yes, this is a strange Trek, but its good, i mean really good because there dealing about all those secret thing of Trek that where almost rumors, like this is the first time we get to know about section 31, its no dream, it was always part of the original Trek, just never developped and so many other thing that where just never explained, this is actually the missing link
well, i thought id wait until we got to the end of the season to right a review.
the first episode was a good start and looked like it could go somewhere, gave you just what you needed to keep coming back for more. sadly the following 4 episodes became boring and you were left with the feeling that you where treading water, but then it was as if the writers had noticed their mistakes and turned the show totally on its head. i loved the turn around and the alternate world story line, to see the complete change in the characters from the two different worlds was so enjoyable....
the last 3 episodes, especially the final one, seemed rushed as if they just wanted to get to the enterprise cliffhanger as soon as possible.
for me personal id rather, season 1 had gone to the alternate world by episode 4 and had stayed there until the final episode, leaving us with the cliffhanger of them returning back to their world but at a slightly different time, season 2 would then be taking up with the story of where they have ended up and the bring about of peace and giving us the enterprise as the season 2 cliffhanger...
so this all said, i enjoyed the new show, its a nice little twist on the original and other spin off shows. but i do agree with some other people that it could have almost have been a totally new syfi show in its self and has maybe just used the STAR TREK brand to just give it a boost!
I WILL BE BACK FOR MORE...
"Star Trek: Discovery" is a series that holds promise but struggles to find a consistent tone. It veers from moments of genuine greatness to bouts of cheesy melodrama that border on feeling simplistic. While the emphasis on emotional conflict resolution adds depth to the characters, it sometimes feels forced and rushed, with little room for nuance or development. The show's tendency to prioritize moving quickly from one emotional conflict to the next can make it feel a bit disjointed and lacking in a cohesive narrative flow. Overall, "Star Trek: Discovery" shines when it embraces its more mature themes and tones down the overt dramatics, offering glimpses of the high-quality storytelling fans were hoping for.
It’s certainly alien to me, i even forgot her name was Michael
I must be the only one that looks forward to every episode, but that doesn’t bother me.
Visually this show is very appealing. The first few season were good, then the story just takes a hard right, then a hard left and then a u-turn in the middle of traffic. It's very difficult to make a connection to any one character. To top it all off, season 5 feels more like Star Wars.
Do any of you care about that? Probably not. As someone who grew up with TNG and the like, this just wasn't what I hoped it would be in the end.
No white straight males in a position of power... or at all come to think of it.
What is wrong with you over the top woke people? Star Trek was one of the most inclusive shows out there, you had to go too far and ruined it.
"No one can hear you scream in space"
Or even talk, because everyone whispers constantly....especially captain Burnham.
The fans don't deserve it. This show should be cancelled like Enterprise so people can cry about years later when another trek comes and people start saying that "at least discovery tried". Ugh, why fanbases suck so much?
They had to ruin it adding woke granny crap in it.
Oh yay... Star Trek WOKEovery is back for season 5 :( Lets see how bad they make this season..
To be able to keep enjoying this show, I literally have to keep skipping the cringe dramatic scenes they have to fill in every 3 minutes, because they don't actually have enough budget to do proper Star Trek episodes. On season 4 currently and it's usually 15-20 minutes per episode that are worth watching.
Please, kill this show.
While first two seasons were watchable and even entertaining, the third went downhill after first few episodes. Aaaand here comes the fourth season and I'm still unable to determine which character i hate most.
Please, let this be the last season so we can all quickly forget about this show and hope for something new and worthy of the Trek series.
Season 4 was better that the previous three
Gets worse with every episode.
Oh no, attackers with swords, whatever should we do? What do our feeling tell us, logic is so yesterday.
The writing is pathetic and ridiculously immature.
Had to dramatically reduce my rating based on the new season.
Apparently, there are no adults at Star Fleet anymore., Can't they hire some mature adults to write the dialog so the crew doesn't spend all episode whining about they're feelings and instead roll-up their sleeves and get some work done like every mature adult in existence.
What the f*** is up with Section 31?
In ST:DS9 their mere existence was a very well kept secret. Yet here we are decades before where everyone seems not only of their existence, but also about their missions.
Not even mentioning their AI System, which kept and analysed Data for the Admiralty aiding their decision making.
I will get really angry if the staff of this show keeps mentioning the word canon. They blatantly disregard it every turn - canon-wise this Season is even worse than the one before.
It's still an entertaining show, but they really should rebrand it as something other than Star Trek as it clearly ain't anymore. It's some random Sci-Fi Show using the trademark...
THIS SHOW IS PHENOMENAL A TRUE MASTERPIECE AND THE BEST STAR TREK EVER CREATED AND DEFINITELY ONE OF THE BEST SHOWS EVER CREATED.
EVERY SINGLE EPISODE IS WOW....WOW & WOW AGAIN. IT'S FRICKIN AWESOME AMAZING
AND AN ABSOLUTE PLEASURE TO ENJOY THE AWESOMENESS THAT IS
STAR TREK DISCOVERY
I THINK MYSELF SO LUCKY I OWN THIS SPECIAL SPECIAL SHOW ON BLU RAY BOXSET
SEASON 1-4
this needs to be enjoyed over and over
and over again.
it's just that damn good, I'm in total Awe
from start to finish.
please let their be 7 seasons and more Please.
Hella Yeah
10+/10
STAR TREK DISCOVERY
IS PERFECTION AT IT'S ABSOLUTE BEST.
IT'S AWESOME AMAZING FANTASTIC
SPECTACULAR AND SO WELL DONE,
ACTED AND WRITTEN.
STAR TREK PICARD IS WOKE BULL-CRAP
AND SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN MADE.
THANK GOD STAR TREK DISCOVERY WAS MADE TO SAVE THE FRANCHISE AFTER PICARD NEARLY BURIED IT ONCE AND FOR ALL.
HOW DID KILLY SORRY TILLY PUT IT
"THIS IS SO FCUKING COOL"
I’m extremely disappointed :cry:
I really enjoyed the first two seasons, which led me to rate it 9 out of 10. But, wait what happened to the subsequent seasons of 3 and 4?
Season 3 definitely took a noticeable nose dive, however it was still reasonable to watch, believing it was leading up to what we’d expected in the first two seasons.
Season 4…wow, what an utter s**t show! I’m unbelievably bored and even worse…insulted with their slow and basic storylines of morality. Spelling everything out to us as though we are preschool children, then ending each episode with a speech to summarise the lesson of the show.
To make it worse, it’s changed from an exciting science fiction, fantasy show in to a relationship drama. Why do we have to hear in such detail from every character regarding how they feel and why they did what they chose to do, followed by tears or drawn out depressing scenes.
Do the current writers of the show need a long break or counselling? Or are they trying to make their viewers deeply depressed.
I suspect Sonequa Martin-Green is pregnant again and I wish her all the best, however the show shouldn’t be taking it easy to accommodate her personal situation. I’m sure they could continue with the speed of action in seasons 1 and 2, bringing forward other characters to fill in whilst the Commander of the Discovery takes a back seat. I may be wrong, but I can’t think of anything else that would effect the show as much.
I’m on S04 E08 and I don’t even want to watch it.
:face_with_symbols_over_mouth::face_vomiting::cry::rage:
I am excited for this new series after seeing the first two episodes. The graphics are spectacular, the story is compelling, the characters have depth and are well articulated, the acting is superb (Sonequia Martin- Green is a stand out performer, and Michelle Yeoh always brings gravitas and excellence). I give it a 9 (superb) out of 10, fully expecting it to reach a 10 (a favourite) very, very soon. [SciFi, Adventure, Drama, Wit]
Around the same time that this series debuted, a Star Trek parody THE ORVILLE came out. It had all the humour (via Seth MacFarlane) but none of the gravity. DISCOVERY was the bleak opposite. It had all the gravity but none of the humour. At the time, I preferred THE ORVILLE and, although I felt the series started strong (see my initial review), I gradually lost interest in it. But, recently, I decided to take another swing at DISCOVERY and binged all its 4 seasons to date. Although the show tried to swing a little less dark in its later seasons, this time, I was able to connect with its story arcs, its characters and its quality of production. (I will always be won over by relationships and good working ensembles and I would say these are the strengths of this series). It was an enjoyable 3 and a half day binge. I give this series a 7 (good) out of 10. [SciFi Legacy]
Haters gonna hate but this was incredible.
Star Trek has always been idealist. People complaining about that can't accept what Star Trek is.
Discover takes us on more of an inner journey, hence it is told through the lens of a main character, rather than mostly the captain as with previous Star Trek series.
It is by far the most moving and while it's true that it's feel differs to old Star Trek it is very meaningful.
On top of this, it looks great, and the acting is pretty good too, considering the format, which isn't one of absolute realism.
I think some people have a problem whereby they prescribe what Star Trek 'is' or 'should be' but that sort of retro thinking is exactly what Star Trek has always, ideologically, been about challenging.
It feels like the producers want to annoy the Trekkie as much as they can with Voyager-era beeping sounds, trials without a lawyer (Starfleet ISN'T military!!!), a completely different Sarek...
Besides from the canon errors, which I have finally been able to overlook since episode two, the main character herself isn't one that "fits" into Star Trek. I only talk about the role, not the actress.
I just don't like Michael. She is self-righteous, calls daddy when her ship is in danger, she isn't loyal... In short, she misses any part of personality a Starfleet officer should have.
She's got a problem with herself and it is absolutely unrealistic she would be an officer anywhere.
Update time!
The text above was from Oct 17.
Now it's Jan 23.
Aaaand: I was right: She wasn't welcomed on the Discovery because she's a great Officer, she just accidentally happened to be this universe's counterpart of someone Mirror Lorca needed to become Emperor.
So it's official: We've got Star Trek with an incapable main character.
Oh yeah, as presumed, she's messed up like 97% of her tasks in the meantime.
The level of emotional exploration in this is horrendous. There's 10 min of action and the rest is just sensitivity and caring. There's a place for that as part of the show. not as the entire show. Very hard to endure
Fingers crossed this gets cancelled in 2020. This isn't Trek.
Please, someone save us from this epic failure of a show which seems hell bent to drag Gene Roddenberry's legacy further into the ground. How dare they even associate this garbage with Star Trek let alone quote him at the end of an episode.
Finally cancelled, it was garbage, terrible writing, unlikeable characters, no-one watched it, no-one liked it, no-one cared. Good riddance.
Complete waste of time for any star trek fan.
Barely OK as a standalone series.
While some character development does happen over course of the series, all of it amounts to literaly nothing universe-wise.
Diologues are written with the stick instead of pen.
Hey Trekkers!
If something, the Universe created by Gene Roddenberry is one of united diversity. I've been watching Startrek for 53 years and my humble opinion: Discovery definitely is in accordance to Startrek's philosophy and heritage. I do miss me old captain's charismatic presence though. But what do I know! I'm only a doctor damn it!
Cheers to all and long live Startrek.
Not bad, not Star Trek. Just wondering why Michael, (Sonequa Martin-Green), has to whisper all the time, and then talk at "90 to the dozen" when she gets excited?????
This is one of those shows that I was willing to forgive a lot for, being a hard-core Trekkie! I could overlook the obvious SJW crap, I could overlook the lead character being pretty much totally unlikable, as much as I hated it I could even deal with white straight men being relegated to the trash heap of the future, but it's just not Star Trek.
The fact that Michael Burnham is totally insubordinate at pretty much all times would have her thrown out of Starfleet. Remember Ensign Ro from TNG? Well, Burnham is Ro times 100 and she gets a free pass.
That being said, season 1 was a really good non Star Trek sci-fi show.
Then season 2 hit and it was getting silly and even less Star Trek than before and even more SJW. I started to fizzle out. Then season 3 was so out of bounds that it didn't even qualify as good sci-fi any longer. It seems that the people in charge of Discovery are more interested in not just doing the Roddenberry firsts (first black lead, purported first interracial kiss - but that has since been debunked) by having the first gay characters in Trek, then the first trans character in Trek and the show became more about those things than being Trek and they took this wildly stupid ride into the far future to try to give some kind of sci-fi to prop up these other SJW things.
So, now it's Picard and I hope they don't destroy that too.
It started off okay, apart from the “Klingorcs”. Where the fuck did they come from?
Sadly, it gets worse as the series continues. Star Trek has always tackled social issues, which was great and tried to show us how we as the human race could be. But, fuck me. We must be in a truly awful fucking place if we’re to follow the same logic.
The franchise has always seemed to inspire the more nerdy of us to invent wonderful things such as touch sensitive screens, tablets, mobile phones, WiFi and virtual assistants. The only thing I fear this shit will inspire is the inexplicable and totally unnecessary use of FUCKING WHISPERING.
I can only hope that Discovery does a “Dallas” in the next series (please make it the last) and we find out that all which has gone before was nothing but one of Burnham’s recurrent nightmares, caused by some form of trauma, for which she seeks help from Dr. Culber in 10 weekly appointments.
Fails to capture most of the things Star Trek was really about.
very feminist, now every thief are women, the "captain" what can I say... pffff
Consistently beautiful visuals, and consistently disappointing storytelling.
Luckily I’m a Star Trek fan already, but, especially when compared to Strange New Worlds, this is, by and large, a flop that rests upon the decaying laurels of its predecessor entries to the Star Trek universe, relying on modern visuals to mask what’s really just a poorly executed narrative (e.g., late-season dialogue is absolute trash).
I was initially thrilled to see the televised approach to Trek resurrected, but I’m beyond grateful that season 5 is the last.
For example, “Michael” could certainly be a convincingly engaging character, except that her character was clearly initially written as a man BY a man, as evidenced by the name and by her mannerisms. Give me a well-written, strong, woman lead any time, I’m here for it, but “Michael” ain’t her…
Worth a watch, for sure. It’s pretty fun most of the time, but def gives Rings-of-Power vibes in that it’s a masturbatory investigation of what happens when the show runners are trying to cater to the current societal zeitgeist rather than doing their best to make an actually engaging series (at the risk of sounding like a Ferengi, look to Fallout for inspiration when it comes to a well-told, strong, female-driven character arc).
I’d rather sit through a 5th run-through of Voyager than start Discovery anew for a second time.
Can’t wait for the next season of Strange New Worlds, though. Captain Pike is my pompadour Jesus.
Side note - I’d watch a whole show about Michael/Book’s adventures, provided that the franchise gets new writers for their saga.
I don't know why I'm watching this.
Its not a good Star Trek show.
The most beautiful thing about Star Trek: Discovery is that it's like a partner who's grown up with me - in the sense of personal development. I love it. I love the characters. I love the ship. I love the inter-personal dynamics. I love the queers. All the haters can sod off. Get a grip and accept change.
Sorry but while the first 2 season were 9-10 rated material...most of season 3 was NOT. TBH the writers were lost after anticipating limited 2 season run in paid TV channel realms. LOL - I suspect the show literally ran out of licensed rights to add to Star Trek franchise world events after season 2 and they never planned anything for season 3 in advance of renewal.
So season 3 was maybe 6.5 average with a few much better episodes in balance against a lot of weak "standard" stories simply set in a Trek background). Not too bad for rushed writers probably finishing scripts while the episode starts filming - but not prize material since nothing written can be rejected or revised.
Season 4 is uncertain to me as to whether they are slowly getting their act together and building overall plot with slow suspense...or if they are slowly drowning. Crossing my fingers. So far stories are a notch better (6.5-7 rating) than season 3 beginnings.
Slow start to Season 2 so far. I do wish current writers would stop with so many flashbacks. I hated it on Lost and I really hate it on Arrow. Now we see it starting again on Discovery. I hope they keep it small.
I have never seen series with such a lot of useless and unneeded speech on feelings. Looks like they are low on budget and try to fill all the emptiness with blallalabla I feel this I feel that
Jury's still out on this one. The first two episodes were utter crap. SJW characters, unbelievably weak Klingons and a lame story based on bad lens flare during space battles. I almost stopped watching. Third episode, the story takes a hard turn towards something dark, introduces a whole new cast (well, with a couple of exceptions) and does all this while resembling Star Trek.
Seriously, skip the first two episodes and start with Context Is for Kings. You'll thank me.
I recommend to stop after season 2. Its not getting better...
100% trash show. I love Star Trek. This isn't Star Trek. This is Drama Trek. Who are the people that are enjoying this hot mess?
What a waste of my precious time on this planet to spend watching this horrible show.
talk talk talk... this show is touchy feely talk. It is boring as hell after season one
75%, 73%, 68%.............57%
Oh dear, says it all really. Season 4 really is steaming cow dung.
it started so well, going a little downhill with season 3, but season 4 really turned it into a shit show and total waste of time. nothing more to add
well, maybe one more thing to add: i still can get over the ridiculous special effects with cheap pattern flame bursts on the bridge when the ship takes a hit ... i mean, seriously?!
I like the characters a lot (so far) but maybe most of them are a little bit too young for be in a position like the first officer. But the captain is great. I don't like it that they changed the look of the klingons and the fact that the show is based before TOS.
I will rate the show after i saw the full first season. But i wish the show the best even i don't agree with some of the decisions they made (Klingons, age of the characters and the fact that it's not based after Voyager).
Binged all 3 seasons.
First things first: this was my first Star Trek series, I've never watched any other, only the original one's first episode. Apart from that, I've watched the 3 Star Trek movie with Chris Pine, and while I've enjoyed those, I've never took myself as a fan, didn't know where the story is originated from.
After 3 seasons of Discovery, I'm still not sure if I've became a "true" fan or not, but after all I've enjoyed this 3 seasons as a whole. I guess (from reading comments on youtube) fans of the previous tv shows' are won't agree with me, but I have to say that this is a fair sci-fi series.
But of course let's break this down further.
1st season: My overall thoughts were good, I loved the series, especially how Burnham was a different kind of character. I loved her for being unemotional, for being so rational, she embodied the Vulcan culture alone. She was fresh, she was the kind of character whom I've wanted to see on tv for a long time. I loved her relationship with Sarek, and the story was enjoyable too. Because I didn't have previous knowledge about the Klingons, I found them ultimately great and fascinating. I even loved the story arc however tangled and weird it became from one moment to the other (I'm thinking about the abuse of Ash Tyler, and his relationship with his captor over the time). So I guess there were some inconsistencies, some really bizarre storylines, but overall I thought that this first season was fantastic with its' faults too. I gave it 8/10.
2nd season: And so I've ventured to the internet, read a few comments, and was disappointed immediately. Fans demanded changes, the outcry for Burnham's lack of tears were shocking. I was flabbergasted. I didn't understand this, I still don't, because something being different is not a fault, and it shouldn't be bad. I know, I can't understand this, because I haven't watched the original tv shows, but for me, the first season had an awesome message: no matter who you are, no matter where you're from, no matter what color is your skin, as long as you are welcoming, you are welcomed in return too. It had a cute, whole-hearted feel to the series, and while that didn't dissipate, I've felt that everything changed. The story became flatter - rouge AI is a cliché - Burnham became too emotional for me (she cried every time somebody told her something), and she started to get on the Space Jesus path. I had to totally agree with this. No matter what kind of problem have risen, the crew "solved everything together" while Burnham did everything alone. She became the ultimateMary Sue character, and I've felt a great deal of apathy from this. Still, the other characters were great at least, and the story wasn't a total fail (with introducing time travel), so all in all it was saved. I only felt sorry for the actor who played Spock, because he is such an iconic character, he couldn't do justice for him - not that his character in overall wasn't in vain, I still think it was a huge gamble from a creators to bring him in, and I think it didn't work out for anybody at all. Anyway, it was a solid season, so I gave it 6/10.
3rd season: And oh boi, we went to the future, almost 900 hundred years flew by, and there were so much potential in it, I'm shocked that it flapped so hard. The story was plain boring - at first I felt it exciting, everything should have been new, fresh, and while it served some of that, after Burnham started to investigate the Burn, it became the same old recipe: she started to solve the universe's huge problem, so she could've continue on being Space Jesus - and she did that of course, not that it was a riddle she could do it or not. At least her relationship with Book was genuine, there was some chemistry between them (with Ash, it was forced), so I'm glad they changed the love interest. Book is far more suited to Burnham than Tyler was.
So the story sucked, it was boring, the antagonist was a joke, she reminded me of the Grinch all the time. The new characters were plain, we didn't get to know them better, and Tal was the biggest miss of this season. Also the biggest fail I've ever seen when it comes to a tv show becoming politicly accurate. I mean... I get it why it's so important for LGBTQI+ members to be represented, but the show failed so much to incorporate non-binaries, that scene with Paul and Adira was the biggest cringe of my life - and because this show wants to represent equalness, acceptance and all of that wholesomeness, it's a huge mystery why they couldn't make a fair scene to get the viewers understand why a human prefers to be called 'they' or 'them'.
But apart from that, Adira's storyline was the most interesting, and that's why I'm wondering why the creators haven't made anything with that. Being a symbiont when Adira biologically couldn't have been one, is much more interesting for me than the Burn. So because of these misses, because the story fell flat, because the creators kind of forgot about the first season and all of its' glory, I gave it 4/10.
Overall I have to say that while this is a good show with great potential and with good actors, there were definitely some miserably outstanding points: for example I think that Anthony Rapp is the worst actor in the world. His mimicry at this point is non-existant, he only has one face, and even when he is smiling, his eyes are burning with the boringness of his life.
Focusing on the characters are: Tilly was awesome, I wish she wasn't backburned in this third season, that wasn't justice for her character. Apart from Tilly, I don't really have a favorite character, all of the crew are awesome, I really love them, especially the crew on the bridge. I hope everybody will have an episode for themselves, becase they deserve it - so that's why I was sad that Michelle Yeoh left, her character was the sole star in this series. She was brutal, she was a true tactician, a warrior through and through.
Also we can't forget Doug Jones, I mean he is just perfect, and I really hope we will see him from time to time. His acting was very welcoming, his character was an awesome, interesting addition.
So all in all I liked this show, and I'm eagerly waiting for the next season, but I see its' faults. I hope it will progress well, that Burnham maybe change back, but if that wont happen, at least I still have a fairly written sci-fi tv show, and that will be enough for me for a while.
Totally sucks. Focuses on the black woman WAY to much!!! Takes away from all other Star Trek series by downplaying them in my opinion. I agree with other commenters, should not be a Star Trek show, but just another Sci-Fi show.
I'm passionate about Star Trek, but I really struggle to like any of the characters on this show and the story has never sat well with me. I'm holding out hope that future episodes will be far better due to the end of the recent story arc (thankfully). I just can't get past how much the characters irritate me and how unlikeable they are.
Please don't suck, please don't suck, please don't suck...
Hug Trek - Lots of Hugging and No Trekking!
They should have called it: As the World Turns "boldly go where no emotion has gone before"
They lost it.
Is it me or all new characters from season 2 are so much better than any of those of season 1? Pike elevates every scene he´s in. By contrast Tilly just plunges everything into the abyss.
While the show is good and visually stunning. It is a little too melodramatic and takes itself too seriously.
I do like the show, but it's not Star Trek. If this was just a new sci-fi show that existed in its own universe, it would be incredible. However, the fact that they've tried to pass this off as Star Trek when it's clearly not sullies the experience.
If it wasn't already apparent, Paramount and CBS have no idea what made Star Trek great, and don't care either. The simple explanation is that the world of Star Trek is supposed to be optimistic; this is pessimistic. And I do enjoy pessimistic sci-fi, but there's so much of it, and to see one of the few optimistic sci-fi worlds turned into something pessimistic is a shame.
Fortunately, we now have The Orville, which is doing Star Trek better than anything has since Voyager ended in 2001.
The show is supposed to take place between Enterprise and TOS, but the technology is very different. For example, there are holograms everywhere. Why try to do a prequel again? Why not set this after Voyager? That would make a lot more sense, and they'd be able to add whatever technology they like, and not be constrained by existing continuity. Fortunately, it's not too late for the showrunners to say "hey, we made a mistake, this actually takes place X years after Voyager".
Last, they fucked up the Klingons. For almost 25 years, they had the look of the Klingons figured out perfectly. They're iconic. But this show (and the reboot movies) messed them up and made them look like generic sci-fi bad guys. What happened to their hair and beards? Also, the costumes are ridiculous, and their ship interiors look like they're made of coral. I do like the idea of having an albino Klingon though.
And I applaud their desire to use the Klingon language on the show, but it's pretty annoying having every Klingon scene subtitled. The previous shows used a common sci-fi conceit: the actors speak a language that the audience understands, but it's accepted that they're really speaking a different language. The viewer effectively has a universal translator so they can understand what's being said.
Also, it looks nothing like Star Trek. Once again, The Orville got that right, and this didn't.
All of that said, I do like the show. The characters are interesting (especially Doug Jones), I've enjoyed each episode, and I think the storyline is pretty interesting. But goddamn it, why did they have to try to make this Star Trek when it's not?
I hate this show.
If it weren't Star Trek, it would still be an objectively terrible show.
The acting is over-the-top. the characters are not developed, the plot makes no sense, the characters behave in unrelatable ways, it consistently ignores reality/physics, and the CGI is just too damn much.
Three episodes aired and already there is lots of discussion. People hate it, people love it. Remember TNG ? ;-)
Finally finished the last remaining two episodes of season 3 and guess who won't be returning in this season 4..
This guy :raised_hand:
I'm losing interest with every season.
It's like season 1 ok
Season 2 meh
Season 3 why even bother,beside i hate Sonequa over acting, it's becoming unbearable to watch.i don't see this going to season 4,i just hope they give it a decent wrap.
After 6 episodes I still have to process the different format to previous Star Trek shows. It's a bigger challenge to get familiar with the crew in general, for example. We get to know their relation and standing to Michael, but barely know anything about them, their skills etc.
Otherwise the established setting looks interesting, though I feel that it didn't really take off yet. Which isn't uncommon for a first season.
This show is more Star Trek than ToS, and all the slimy dorks crying about SJWs would have done the same in 1966 when Roddenberry had the audacity to put a black woman on the bridge as an officer.
STAR TREK: MICHAEL BURNHAM is best, when it‘s about the whole crew and originally star treky. Mostly it‘s about Michael Burnham and her personal stories overlap the interesting social matters, that are only sratched, but examined.
Over emotional. Stop frowning and tell me a story... without dragging it out.
S01E07... There may have been two scenes without tears. And what progress with the story has been made? I'm out.
First season was fantastic and I think show would be much better off if it continued on that trajectory. Unfortunately, some fans weren't happy and nitpicked it to death as every episode came out without waiting for the whole story. It was genuinely fresh, intriguing and exciting.
Showrunners changed and second season seemed like U turn designed primarily around backtracking on everything those fans from first season didn't like (shade of The Rise of Skywalker). Little did they know there's no satisfying those fans, so they satisfied close to no one (or at least very few people). Also, let's never forget penultimate episode of the season where they decided to fill whole runtime with only the worst parts of the show. At least we got Pike, which is only reason to suffer through this season.
Third season started out fantastic, first few episodes it seems they are setting up a really compelling world (or time I should say) and compelling story, with new, stoic Burnham, but then they just rush through plot points and Burnham regresses to her usual whiny self. Mixed bag, but better looking than any other SF (movie or series) with some interesting stuff.
Unfortunately (or is it?), then they decided to launch Paramount+ or whatever it is and left us in europe without legal way to watch, and it's not that good that I go through trouble of finding it through alternative sources.
to comment on this series I think it would be fair to separate the seasons. season 1 on its own was terrible. It came across as though it pushed primarily the feminist agenda I've had an overall theme saying"it's the girls time". season 1 did not have the feel have a traditional Star trek episode. in the grand scheme of the story season 1 is completely irrelevant. it focused primarily on Michael and in truth I only watched season one out of boredom. season 2 however feels like an entirely different show. it invoked nostalgia as we begin to see some friendly familiar faces characters from the traditional Star trek universe. season 2 in a way I felt right. Michael was apart of the story but she was not the main focus. we saw a balance in season 2. I will admit that I feel the character of Spock was greatly perverted. but it was nice to see the producers pay tribute to some of the classic Star trek characters in the season. We got to feel more of the traditional Star trek universe and we got to see more of the subtle nuances that made Star trek great shine in season 2. I hope the show ends here. so far they have told the great story. I fell that creating a second season would only repeat the mistakes that we saw in the first season which would hurt the over all series.
Really. I did gave this one a try 3 times. I can "survive" S01 and S02 but it gets unwatchable with S03 ...
Nowhere near with any of the previous series, feels lile it was made for teens. Enjoyable, but meh..
I just got into Star Trek like maybe back in 2014 so I don't have as much knowledge about the series as many of the fandom. But for the most part I think this show is good and a decent start for people to get into it. I do think in some ways it is over the top with real life political references but it's not in a way that ruins the show. Season 2 is way better than season 1 .
I’ve enjoyed all previous incarnations of Star Trek, but not this one. Rather than concentrating on a decent storyline, it’s a flagship series promoting 2020 diversity. Considering this series is set a few hundred years into the future, I’d hope 2020 diversity issues are overcome and we’d see more human/alien or human/robot or even human/animal relationships.
When this show started I was full of expectations and it started off great! I mean, it wasn't like the old shows, but it was a nice new take on Star Trek. Season 1 was amazing - new ship, new travel tech, new crew . Crew working on the bridge and another working in engineering, just like it should be. The season 2 came along and focus shifted to a few individuals. Now season 3 I don't know what happened?! Full focus on Burnham and Saru and lost the focus on teamwork, space travel and exploration which is the core of Star Trek. Right now I'm watching season 3 and I feel so disappointed, this has turned into some boring drama that doesn't even have enough space-travel to call it sci-fi, even less Star Trek.
wow this show just keeps getting better by the episode.
I love the darker stories.
Please keep this ST going for many seasons to come.
There's nothing better than good sci fi.
There's nothing worse than bad sci fi.
This is most certainly the second one.
So war breaks out with the Klingons. A POW becomes head of security but his PTSD is so bad he winds up in the fetal position when he sees a Klingon and he's the only straight guy in the show, other than that it's women and sissies against the Klingons. Live long and be fabulous lol.
If your a trekky, its a must.
The Klingons look and sound like a mutant fish race not a race of warriors, if you discount that and and suspend your disbelief over the advanced tech it's pretty good
This show has its own unique way of being addictive, it always finds a way to keep you posted on the next episode :)
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Amazing absolute must watch, Season 3 was awesome can't wait for s4