It is StarTrek and it is great! I dont care about the realism of explosions in space or the sound of lasers. It has action, it has drama, it has Klingons! The captain is not Janeway and not Archer, the vulcan is not Spock and there is no Scotty. But it has the right look and feel and is really fun to watch. I hope it will run for a few seasons.
If your a trekky, its a must.
I still can't get over the fact they killed off the only gay character few episodes in. It has a good message overall but... something feels wrong.
OK, everyone ( who likes this show) can stop holding their breath, as it was just renewed for Season three, and the Kurtzman haters are appeased as CBS saddled him with a "co-producer" who is an acknowledge "Trekkie" with a "ferocious knowledge of Trek,” and a vast reservoir and depth to her "grasp of character and story detail". So...., what will the story lines and die hards reactions be like when the episodes are co-penned by one of their own? May fortune favor the bold...
https://start.att.net/news/read/category/news/article/newsweek-star_trek_discovery_renewed_for_season_3-rnewsweek
Oh yeah, and then there was this news too:
https://www.newsweek.com/star-trek-discovery-section-31-michelle-yeoh-georgiou-utopia-deep-space-nine-1290976?utm_source=Synacor&utm_medium=Attnet&utm_campaign=Partnerships
Slow start to Season 2 so far. I do wish current writers would stop with so many flashbacks. I hated it on Lost and I really hate it on Arrow. Now we see it starting again on Discovery. I hope they keep it small.
Is it me or all new characters from season 2 are so much better than any of those of season 1? Pike elevates every scene he´s in. By contrast Tilly just plunges everything into the abyss.
Hey Trekkers!
If something, the Universe created by Gene Roddenberry is one of united diversity. I've been watching Startrek for 53 years and my humble opinion: Discovery definitely is in accordance to Startrek's philosophy and heritage. I do miss me old captain's charismatic presence though. But what do I know! I'm only a doctor damn it!
Cheers to all and long live Startrek.
Haters gonna hate but this was incredible.
Star Trek has always been idealist. People complaining about that can't accept what Star Trek is.
Discover takes us on more of an inner journey, hence it is told through the lens of a main character, rather than mostly the captain as with previous Star Trek series.
It is by far the most moving and while it's true that it's feel differs to old Star Trek it is very meaningful.
On top of this, it looks great, and the acting is pretty good too, considering the format, which isn't one of absolute realism.
I think some people have a problem whereby they prescribe what Star Trek 'is' or 'should be' but that sort of retro thinking is exactly what Star Trek has always, ideologically, been about challenging.
This show is more Star Trek than ToS, and all the slimy dorks crying about SJWs would have done the same in 1966 when Roddenberry had the audacity to put a black woman on the bridge as an officer.
Black Alert!... It took a couple episodes, but I really like now.
Very strong start of the series but dropping a bit back now. However I love it very much!
The most beautiful thing about Star Trek: Discovery is that it's like a partner who's grown up with me - in the sense of personal development. I love it. I love the characters. I love the ship. I love the inter-personal dynamics. I love the queers. All the haters can sod off. Get a grip and accept change.
This show has its own unique way of being addictive, it always finds a way to keep you posted on the next episode :)
Not without it's faults; but resoundingly 'Star Trek' - great story, great acting, absolutely stunning visual effects - welcome back, Star Trek!
They had to ruin it adding woke granny crap in it.
Sorry but while the first 2 season were 9-10 rated material...most of season 3 was NOT. TBH the writers were lost after anticipating limited 2 season run in paid TV channel realms. LOL - I suspect the show literally ran out of licensed rights to add to Star Trek franchise world events after season 2 and they never planned anything for season 3 in advance of renewal.
So season 3 was maybe 6.5 average with a few much better episodes in balance against a lot of weak "standard" stories simply set in a Trek background). Not too bad for rushed writers probably finishing scripts while the episode starts filming - but not prize material since nothing written can be rejected or revised.
Season 4 is uncertain to me as to whether they are slowly getting their act together and building overall plot with slow suspense...or if they are slowly drowning. Crossing my fingers. So far stories are a notch better (6.5-7 rating) than season 3 beginnings.
While the show is good and visually stunning. It is a little too melodramatic and takes itself too seriously.
First season was fantastic and I think show would be much better off if it continued on that trajectory. Unfortunately, some fans weren't happy and nitpicked it to death as every episode came out without waiting for the whole story. It was genuinely fresh, intriguing and exciting.
Showrunners changed and second season seemed like U turn designed primarily around backtracking on everything those fans from first season didn't like (shade of The Rise of Skywalker). Little did they know there's no satisfying those fans, so they satisfied close to no one (or at least very few people). Also, let's never forget penultimate episode of the season where they decided to fill whole runtime with only the worst parts of the show. At least we got Pike, which is only reason to suffer through this season.
Third season started out fantastic, first few episodes it seems they are setting up a really compelling world (or time I should say) and compelling story, with new, stoic Burnham, but then they just rush through plot points and Burnham regresses to her usual whiny self. Mixed bag, but better looking than any other SF (movie or series) with some interesting stuff.
Unfortunately (or is it?), then they decided to launch Paramount+ or whatever it is and left us in europe without legal way to watch, and it's not that good that I go through trouble of finding it through alternative sources.
I'm not much of a Trekkie, which is probably why I kinda like it.
Finally, a reboot of Star Trek TV series, and 1st decent Star Trek exploration series in a while. Interesting it comes out at same time (or slightly after) the Orville parody series. lol ;)
I've seen every episode of every iteration of Star Trek. I've seen the cast get-together interviews. I've seen the behind-the-scenes and bloopers. I've taken several years to say anything at length about Star Trek beyond my appreciation for the analogy that is The Borg. Well, here goes nothing.
Star Trek Discovery turned me onto Star Trek broadly. I was always, confidently, a Star Wars person. The campiness of the older series and the look and feel overall just did not mesh with my sensibilities, especially as a child. Discovery modernizing and evolving the in-universe technology and raising the catastrophic stakes drew me in. It, yes, suffered, particularly later in the series of what reactionaries deem "woke" bullshit that felt particularly cringey and distracting, but, on the whole of Star Trek, it's not like it's a series that doesn't belabor its character's feelings and mushy interpersonal struggles. Odo and Kira come to mind immediately. T'Pol and Trip I'd argue was clunky and Worf and Dax probably the best in how they were developed.
I think what Discovery does best is its big-picture narratives. I'm considerably less concerned about any individual crew member and they feel less "iconic" perhaps precisely because they're servicing more cliche role-fillers in service to the broader picture than meant to develop into the next Spock. I do think Stamets, Saru, and Cleveland stick out star-power-wise in general, and while I don't mind Michael, I haven't been convinced, and I think I blame that mostly on the writing than her performance.
Star Trek has the same "problem" as Star Wars. You can't erase multiple generations of people's memories and feelings about dozens of episodes or characters. A franchise has to grow and iterate to meet modern landscapes, just like a person, sometimes in direct spite of gut-level reactions about what the property means or represents. To be sure, literally no one has a singular grasp on what is or isn't Star Trek, and I take any pissed off troll-esc opinion of someone personally affronted by more gay representation or chubby body types as lazy and hateful reactionary nonsense. Today, Discovery is trying to mirror today's conversation from "Hollywood" or "left-leaning" ideas, like the show about the struggle explore, defend, and live according to universally sensitive and translatable ideals always has. If there's a larger singular note I hear from Star Trek, I'm deaf to that frequency.
The Star Trek universe is one of the most nakedly idealistic fantasies you could ask for. It tries, sometimes, to lay a larger claim on the way we achieve its vision than feels remotely possible or even fleetingly sane, but the exact same impulse that turned me off as a a child keeps me intrigued as an adult. I didn't want goofy pontificators lecturing and awkwardly conveying an unconvincing struggle. That, still, turns me off whenever it comes up across any of the series, regardless of who's saying it. (Seriously, no one finds Sisko absolutely exhausting?) This universe is the bridge between the cynical Star Wars and the painful naivety of shows on The CW. It commits no bigger sin than any classic insanely-long-running franchise that attracts too-personal idealists to show run. The, by definition and existential circumstance, ever-fluid identity starts to crack because it has to as things evolve.
If you can learn and grow and change, but maintain your identity and through-line relationship to the franchise, the brilliant and compelling parts will shine considerably brighter than the cringe. Star Trek is daring you to believe in yourself like it does.
I must be the only one that looks forward to every episode, but that doesn’t bother me.
Amazing series. Like every star trek before it - it goes in a direction that is unique and amazing. Ignore the obvious trolls who rant about 'The Orville' (a fun Seth McFarlane comedy homage to TNG that I also enjoy) and how this is 'Not Star Trek' and just enjoy the ride.
I like that they're finally trying to break out of their mold just a bit...
I do like the show, but it's not Star Trek. If this was just a new sci-fi show that existed in its own universe, it would be incredible. However, the fact that they've tried to pass this off as Star Trek when it's clearly not sullies the experience.
If it wasn't already apparent, Paramount and CBS have no idea what made Star Trek great, and don't care either. The simple explanation is that the world of Star Trek is supposed to be optimistic; this is pessimistic. And I do enjoy pessimistic sci-fi, but there's so much of it, and to see one of the few optimistic sci-fi worlds turned into something pessimistic is a shame.
Fortunately, we now have The Orville, which is doing Star Trek better than anything has since Voyager ended in 2001.
The show is supposed to take place between Enterprise and TOS, but the technology is very different. For example, there are holograms everywhere. Why try to do a prequel again? Why not set this after Voyager? That would make a lot more sense, and they'd be able to add whatever technology they like, and not be constrained by existing continuity. Fortunately, it's not too late for the showrunners to say "hey, we made a mistake, this actually takes place X years after Voyager".
Last, they fucked up the Klingons. For almost 25 years, they had the look of the Klingons figured out perfectly. They're iconic. But this show (and the reboot movies) messed them up and made them look like generic sci-fi bad guys. What happened to their hair and beards? Also, the costumes are ridiculous, and their ship interiors look like they're made of coral. I do like the idea of having an albino Klingon though.
And I applaud their desire to use the Klingon language on the show, but it's pretty annoying having every Klingon scene subtitled. The previous shows used a common sci-fi conceit: the actors speak a language that the audience understands, but it's accepted that they're really speaking a different language. The viewer effectively has a universal translator so they can understand what's being said.
Also, it looks nothing like Star Trek. Once again, The Orville got that right, and this didn't.
All of that said, I do like the show. The characters are interesting (especially Doug Jones), I've enjoyed each episode, and I think the storyline is pretty interesting. But goddamn it, why did they have to try to make this Star Trek when it's not?
Enjoyable but so far it's hard to overlook it's flaws . My main gripes - Too much lens flare and shaky cam . And for taking place before TOS , the technology is sure advanced . Instead of making things fittingly primitive they went whole hog on the tech to show off the special effects . I didn't expect TOS grade special effects , I did expect a fusion of old tech with upgraded effects , what we ended up with is a shockingly unbelievable level of technology paired with movie grade special effects . Don't even get me started on the changes to the Klingons .
I am excited for this new series after seeing the first two episodes. The graphics are spectacular, the story is compelling, the characters have depth and are well articulated, the acting is superb (Sonequia Martin- Green is a stand out performer, and Michelle Yeoh always brings gravitas and excellence). I give it a 9 (superb) out of 10, fully expecting it to reach a 10 (a favourite) very, very soon. [SciFi, Adventure, Drama, Wit]
A confusing and rather poor and repetitive first series blossoms (well, a little) in the second. But the third and the fourth, set in the Federation's future, make the trawl worthwhile,
I recommend to stop after season 2. Its not getting better...
Around the same time that this series debuted, a Star Trek parody THE ORVILLE came out. It had all the humour (via Seth MacFarlane) but none of the gravity. DISCOVERY was the bleak opposite. It had all the gravity but none of the humour. At the time, I preferred THE ORVILLE and, although I felt the series started strong (see my initial review), I gradually lost interest in it. But, recently, I decided to take another swing at DISCOVERY and binged all its 4 seasons to date. Although the show tried to swing a little less dark in its later seasons, this time, I was able to connect with its story arcs, its characters and its quality of production. (I will always be won over by relationships and good working ensembles and I would say these are the strengths of this series). It was an enjoyable 3 and a half day binge. I give this series a 7 (good) out of 10. [SciFi Legacy]
well, i thought id wait until we got to the end of the season to right a review.
the first episode was a good start and looked like it could go somewhere, gave you just what you needed to keep coming back for more. sadly the following 4 episodes became boring and you were left with the feeling that you where treading water, but then it was as if the writers had noticed their mistakes and turned the show totally on its head. i loved the turn around and the alternate world story line, to see the complete change in the characters from the two different worlds was so enjoyable....
the last 3 episodes, especially the final one, seemed rushed as if they just wanted to get to the enterprise cliffhanger as soon as possible.
for me personal id rather, season 1 had gone to the alternate world by episode 4 and had stayed there until the final episode, leaving us with the cliffhanger of them returning back to their world but at a slightly different time, season 2 would then be taking up with the story of where they have ended up and the bring about of peace and giving us the enterprise as the season 2 cliffhanger...
so this all said, i enjoyed the new show, its a nice little twist on the original and other spin off shows. but i do agree with some other people that it could have almost have been a totally new syfi show in its self and has maybe just used the STAR TREK brand to just give it a boost!
I WILL BE BACK FOR MORE...
So far so good.!.I have enjoyed every episode thus far...
second ep and pretty good so far
I’m extremely disappointed :cry:
I really enjoyed the first two seasons, which led me to rate it 9 out of 10. But, wait what happened to the subsequent seasons of 3 and 4?
Season 3 definitely took a noticeable nose dive, however it was still reasonable to watch, believing it was leading up to what we’d expected in the first two seasons.
Season 4…wow, what an utter s**t show! I’m unbelievably bored and even worse…insulted with their slow and basic storylines of morality. Spelling everything out to us as though we are preschool children, then ending each episode with a speech to summarise the lesson of the show.
To make it worse, it’s changed from an exciting science fiction, fantasy show in to a relationship drama. Why do we have to hear in such detail from every character regarding how they feel and why they did what they chose to do, followed by tears or drawn out depressing scenes.
Do the current writers of the show need a long break or counselling? Or are they trying to make their viewers deeply depressed.
I suspect Sonequa Martin-Green is pregnant again and I wish her all the best, however the show shouldn’t be taking it easy to accommodate her personal situation. I’m sure they could continue with the speed of action in seasons 1 and 2, bringing forward other characters to fill in whilst the Commander of the Discovery takes a back seat. I may be wrong, but I can’t think of anything else that would effect the show as much.
I’m on S04 E08 and I don’t even want to watch it.
:face_with_symbols_over_mouth::face_vomiting::cry::rage:
Is it me, or does the writing and acting on this show get worse each week?
This season :ocean: becomes more boring and preachy with each episode.
Well, I have just watched the first two episodes of ST:D and frankly - I LIKE IT. I think this is going to shape up to be the best ST series since the original. I like the concepts and the storyline that has opened the show. The opening storyline gives some idea of where the idea of the USS Discovery's architecture stems from, however, we don't know yet - more than likely over the next couple of episodes...
Visually this show is very appealing. The first few season were good, then the story just takes a hard right, then a hard left and then a u-turn in the middle of traffic. It's very difficult to make a connection to any one character. To top it all off, season 5 feels more like Star Wars.
Do any of you care about that? Probably not. As someone who grew up with TNG and the like, this just wasn't what I hoped it would be in the end.
"Star Trek: Discovery" is a series that holds promise but struggles to find a consistent tone. It veers from moments of genuine greatness to bouts of cheesy melodrama that border on feeling simplistic. While the emphasis on emotional conflict resolution adds depth to the characters, it sometimes feels forced and rushed, with little room for nuance or development. The show's tendency to prioritize moving quickly from one emotional conflict to the next can make it feel a bit disjointed and lacking in a cohesive narrative flow. Overall, "Star Trek: Discovery" shines when it embraces its more mature themes and tones down the overt dramatics, offering glimpses of the high-quality storytelling fans were hoping for.
Binged all 3 seasons.
First things first: this was my first Star Trek series, I've never watched any other, only the original one's first episode. Apart from that, I've watched the 3 Star Trek movie with Chris Pine, and while I've enjoyed those, I've never took myself as a fan, didn't know where the story is originated from.
After 3 seasons of Discovery, I'm still not sure if I've became a "true" fan or not, but after all I've enjoyed this 3 seasons as a whole. I guess (from reading comments on youtube) fans of the previous tv shows' are won't agree with me, but I have to say that this is a fair sci-fi series.
But of course let's break this down further.
1st season: My overall thoughts were good, I loved the series, especially how Burnham was a different kind of character. I loved her for being unemotional, for being so rational, she embodied the Vulcan culture alone. She was fresh, she was the kind of character whom I've wanted to see on tv for a long time. I loved her relationship with Sarek, and the story was enjoyable too. Because I didn't have previous knowledge about the Klingons, I found them ultimately great and fascinating. I even loved the story arc however tangled and weird it became from one moment to the other (I'm thinking about the abuse of Ash Tyler, and his relationship with his captor over the time). So I guess there were some inconsistencies, some really bizarre storylines, but overall I thought that this first season was fantastic with its' faults too. I gave it 8/10.
2nd season: And so I've ventured to the internet, read a few comments, and was disappointed immediately. Fans demanded changes, the outcry for Burnham's lack of tears were shocking. I was flabbergasted. I didn't understand this, I still don't, because something being different is not a fault, and it shouldn't be bad. I know, I can't understand this, because I haven't watched the original tv shows, but for me, the first season had an awesome message: no matter who you are, no matter where you're from, no matter what color is your skin, as long as you are welcoming, you are welcomed in return too. It had a cute, whole-hearted feel to the series, and while that didn't dissipate, I've felt that everything changed. The story became flatter - rouge AI is a cliché - Burnham became too emotional for me (she cried every time somebody told her something), and she started to get on the Space Jesus path. I had to totally agree with this. No matter what kind of problem have risen, the crew "solved everything together" while Burnham did everything alone. She became the ultimateMary Sue character, and I've felt a great deal of apathy from this. Still, the other characters were great at least, and the story wasn't a total fail (with introducing time travel), so all in all it was saved. I only felt sorry for the actor who played Spock, because he is such an iconic character, he couldn't do justice for him - not that his character in overall wasn't in vain, I still think it was a huge gamble from a creators to bring him in, and I think it didn't work out for anybody at all. Anyway, it was a solid season, so I gave it 6/10.
3rd season: And oh boi, we went to the future, almost 900 hundred years flew by, and there were so much potential in it, I'm shocked that it flapped so hard. The story was plain boring - at first I felt it exciting, everything should have been new, fresh, and while it served some of that, after Burnham started to investigate the Burn, it became the same old recipe: she started to solve the universe's huge problem, so she could've continue on being Space Jesus - and she did that of course, not that it was a riddle she could do it or not. At least her relationship with Book was genuine, there was some chemistry between them (with Ash, it was forced), so I'm glad they changed the love interest. Book is far more suited to Burnham than Tyler was.
So the story sucked, it was boring, the antagonist was a joke, she reminded me of the Grinch all the time. The new characters were plain, we didn't get to know them better, and Tal was the biggest miss of this season. Also the biggest fail I've ever seen when it comes to a tv show becoming politicly accurate. I mean... I get it why it's so important for LGBTQI+ members to be represented, but the show failed so much to incorporate non-binaries, that scene with Paul and Adira was the biggest cringe of my life - and because this show wants to represent equalness, acceptance and all of that wholesomeness, it's a huge mystery why they couldn't make a fair scene to get the viewers understand why a human prefers to be called 'they' or 'them'.
But apart from that, Adira's storyline was the most interesting, and that's why I'm wondering why the creators haven't made anything with that. Being a symbiont when Adira biologically couldn't have been one, is much more interesting for me than the Burn. So because of these misses, because the story fell flat, because the creators kind of forgot about the first season and all of its' glory, I gave it 4/10.
Overall I have to say that while this is a good show with great potential and with good actors, there were definitely some miserably outstanding points: for example I think that Anthony Rapp is the worst actor in the world. His mimicry at this point is non-existant, he only has one face, and even when he is smiling, his eyes are burning with the boringness of his life.
Focusing on the characters are: Tilly was awesome, I wish she wasn't backburned in this third season, that wasn't justice for her character. Apart from Tilly, I don't really have a favorite character, all of the crew are awesome, I really love them, especially the crew on the bridge. I hope everybody will have an episode for themselves, becase they deserve it - so that's why I was sad that Michelle Yeoh left, her character was the sole star in this series. She was brutal, she was a true tactician, a warrior through and through.
Also we can't forget Doug Jones, I mean he is just perfect, and I really hope we will see him from time to time. His acting was very welcoming, his character was an awesome, interesting addition.
So all in all I liked this show, and I'm eagerly waiting for the next season, but I see its' faults. I hope it will progress well, that Burnham maybe change back, but if that wont happen, at least I still have a fairly written sci-fi tv show, and that will be enough for me for a while.
Two seasons past, the prelude finished, now I'm expecting really hard to see Discovery start on season 3. Season 1 was epic, it could be a good movie. Season 2 was more interesting, but with a too long arc, and the Enterprise to shadow things. I didn't like the plot, the AI vilan, the resolution. If the war on the first season had finish quickly, this end of a Borg-ish devil on the second was also too easy. Same mistakes. I will be expecting more changes for the third season, for the good ones, please. Everybody know Michel Burnhan very well, we can now move on beyond from that, and see a Star Trek show, focused on a alien capitan, Saru is a good choice. But I think this is not gonna happen.
Gets worse with every episode.
Oh no, attackers with swords, whatever should we do? What do our feeling tell us, logic is so yesterday.
The writing is pathetic and ridiculously immature.
It started off okay, apart from the “Klingorcs”. Where the fuck did they come from?
Sadly, it gets worse as the series continues. Star Trek has always tackled social issues, which was great and tried to show us how we as the human race could be. But, fuck me. We must be in a truly awful fucking place if we’re to follow the same logic.
The franchise has always seemed to inspire the more nerdy of us to invent wonderful things such as touch sensitive screens, tablets, mobile phones, WiFi and virtual assistants. The only thing I fear this shit will inspire is the inexplicable and totally unnecessary use of FUCKING WHISPERING.
I can only hope that Discovery does a “Dallas” in the next series (please make it the last) and we find out that all which has gone before was nothing but one of Burnham’s recurrent nightmares, caused by some form of trauma, for which she seeks help from Dr. Culber in 10 weekly appointments.
What a load of old shit!!! THE LEAD ACTRESS OF WHO WAS IN THE WALKING DEAD IS A ZOMBIE IN STAR TREK. THE ACTIMG IS DRY, BORING SCRIPT, DIRECTION IS AWFUL. THE KLINGONS!! THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE THAT..THIS IS NOT SET PRE SPACE??
Had to dramatically reduce my rating based on the new season.
Apparently, there are no adults at Star Fleet anymore., Can't they hire some mature adults to write the dialog so the crew doesn't spend all episode whining about they're feelings and instead roll-up their sleeves and get some work done like every mature adult in existence.
Fails to capture most of the things Star Trek was really about.
"Star Trek: Discovery" is not just a TV show; it's a cultural mosaic set in the final frontier. It's like a cosmic Pride parade, celebrating every color of the human—and alien—rainbow. The series doesn't just push the envelope; it puts the envelope through a wormhole and into a parallel universe where diversity is the prime directive.
The bridge of the USS Discovery is a veritable Benetton ad of interstellar proportions. It's as if the casting call was a group text that said, "Hey, does anyone NOT have representation on a sci-fi show yet?" And the response was a resounding, "Beam us up, Scotty!"
Michael Burnham, our protagonist, is the epitome of a 21st-century hero(ine). She's like if Rosa Parks and Neil Armstrong had a baby, and that baby was raised by Oprah and Ellen in a zero-gravity environment. She's not just breaking the glass ceiling; she's shattering the dilithium crystal barrier.
The show tackles every social issue you can think of, and even some you can't because they haven't been invented yet. It's as if the writers' room has a checklist titled "Inclusivity Goals" and they're scoring higher than a Vulcan playing 3D chess. The Klingons have been reimagined as misunderstood outsiders, not so much the villains of the galaxy but more like that one cousin who's really into heavy metal and just needs a hug.
And let's talk about the storylines, which are more tangled than headphone wires in a pocket. The plot twists come at you faster than a tribble's reproductive rate. Just when you think you've got a handle on the multiverse, the show hits you with a revelation that makes you question reality itself.
In essence, "Star Trek: Discovery" is the avocado latte of television – it's what happens when you blend science fiction with social consciousness, then sprinkle it with a dash of cosmic dust for flavor. It's a bold journey not just into space, but into the heart of what it means to be truly woke in a universe that's as diverse as it is vast. So strap in, set phasers to 'woke', and prepare for a ride that's as enlightening as a pride rainbow. :rocket::rainbow:
it started so well, going a little downhill with season 3, but season 4 really turned it into a shit show and total waste of time. nothing more to add
well, maybe one more thing to add: i still can get over the ridiculous special effects with cheap pattern flame bursts on the bridge when the ship takes a hit ... i mean, seriously?!
By season 4 the show should be renamed to Star Trek Discovering Feeling “TO BOLDLY GO WHERE NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE..." because the show takes a major down hill turn towards taking about everyone’s feeling.
Awesome reboot / restart of the series. That ending was amazing. Can’t wait for season 2.
Michael Jackson is the worst actress of the world. That stone face... meee
This show sucks I've tried to watch this tripe.
After 6 episodes I still have to process the different format to previous Star Trek shows. It's a bigger challenge to get familiar with the crew in general, for example. We get to know their relation and standing to Michael, but barely know anything about them, their skills etc.
Otherwise the established setting looks interesting, though I feel that it didn't really take off yet. Which isn't uncommon for a first season.
Damn Culber was on the rag this episode.
The title needs to be updated to Star Trek: Discovering Woke. Starts out great but takes a massive nose dive towards the Woke universe. Watch 1st & maybe 2nd season after that this show basically becomes a high budget CW show.
I'm passionate about Star Trek, but I really struggle to like any of the characters on this show and the story has never sat well with me. I'm holding out hope that future episodes will be far better due to the end of the recent story arc (thankfully). I just can't get past how much the characters irritate me and how unlikeable they are.
I just got into Star Trek like maybe back in 2014 so I don't have as much knowledge about the series as many of the fandom. But for the most part I think this show is good and a decent start for people to get into it. I do think in some ways it is over the top with real life political references but it's not in a way that ruins the show. Season 2 is way better than season 1 .
I take back what I said up to Episode 5. I thought this was going to be awful. Episode 6 it's really starting to pick up now, I feel this should have been set in the future as the KLINGONS have evolved. I hear there will be Season 2! I can't wait to see where this is going.
So far it's pretty bad... ( the Last episode I watched is #5)...
According to Trakt, this show has 9 episodes, and so far nothing important or interesting happens. There is no actual overarching plot so far. While this was true for the first season of the Expanse too. That many different seemingly unconnected plot threads only connected at the end of the season for a big climax, here there are no multiple plot threads to connect.
The Discovery discovered mushroom magic propulsion technology which allows them to teleport their ship where they want. This is the crux of the plot so far. There is a war with the Klingons and the Discovery is the only ship equipped with the magic mushroom drive. And that's it...
This is not helped at all by how unbelievable the main character is written. She is a rebel in a military organization that constantly disobeys direct orders. Cpt Picard or Cpt Sisko would have kicked her out from their ship\starbase right away.
Klingons are one-dimensional villains who have only one mode 'Kill Enemies'. For some reason, they also don't want to 'culturally appropriate' the Klingon language so this results in tedious extremely long scenes where Klingon characters speak only Klingon. This happens in Game of Thrones too when they speak Valyrian, but the scenes are never as long or tedious as the Klingon speaking scenes in Discovery...
Also, normally I don't care about things like this, but it seems the show went out of its way to cast as little white men as possible. As I said, this is not something I would usually care about, but it's so comically obvious that it's disturbing. It's like they are living in a world where there was a plague that killed 90% of the staight male population...
talk talk talk... this show is touchy feely talk. It is boring as hell after season one
2 Words: The Orville. done.
What do you get when you mix Sci-fi with soap opera? Star trek discovery. You might puke from emotional sketches while watching this. But sci-fi part of it is kind of okay.
Three episodes aired and already there is lots of discussion. People hate it, people love it. Remember TNG ? ;-)
oh well Michael, the Rey of Star Trek.
The production value is incredible. It's fun to watch this show just to see the eye candy. Otherwise, this Star Trek has been a let down.
This is definitely a fantasy show. The understanding of science isn't here. The "what if" scenarios that make scifi such an amazing genre are also mostly absent. Instead Discovery leans toward futuristic action drama and doesn't pull it off very well. Also, it seems like there weren't many script notes from anyone who bothered to watch previous Star Treks. I'm no super fan, but the speed of warp and size of the galaxy are meaningless. Medical, technical, and every other science in Discovery's pre-original-Star-Trek era have inexplicably advanced beyond levels seen in Voyager. There are just too many serious science goofs and eyeroll worthy Trek errors. Please, writers, get assistance.
I'm happy to see this level of investment in the series. I hope we see a return to what we all loved about the it, a bit more attention to science and dreams of what could be.
Really. I did gave this one a try 3 times. I can "survive" S01 and S02 but it gets unwatchable with S03 ...
To be able to keep enjoying this show, I literally have to keep skipping the cringe dramatic scenes they have to fill in every 3 minutes, because they don't actually have enough budget to do proper Star Trek episodes. On season 4 currently and it's usually 15-20 minutes per episode that are worth watching.
It feels like the producers want to annoy the Trekkie as much as they can with Voyager-era beeping sounds, trials without a lawyer (Starfleet ISN'T military!!!), a completely different Sarek...
Besides from the canon errors, which I have finally been able to overlook since episode two, the main character herself isn't one that "fits" into Star Trek. I only talk about the role, not the actress.
I just don't like Michael. She is self-righteous, calls daddy when her ship is in danger, she isn't loyal... In short, she misses any part of personality a Starfleet officer should have.
She's got a problem with herself and it is absolutely unrealistic she would be an officer anywhere.
Update time!
The text above was from Oct 17.
Now it's Jan 23.
Aaaand: I was right: She wasn't welcomed on the Discovery because she's a great Officer, she just accidentally happened to be this universe's counterpart of someone Mirror Lorca needed to become Emperor.
So it's official: We've got Star Trek with an incapable main character.
Oh yeah, as presumed, she's messed up like 97% of her tasks in the meantime.
The level of emotional exploration in this is horrendous. There's 10 min of action and the rest is just sensitivity and caring. There's a place for that as part of the show. not as the entire show. Very hard to endure
I have never seen series with such a lot of useless and unneeded speech on feelings. Looks like they are low on budget and try to fill all the emptiness with blallalabla I feel this I feel that
This is one of those shows that I was willing to forgive a lot for, being a hard-core Trekkie! I could overlook the obvious SJW crap, I could overlook the lead character being pretty much totally unlikable, as much as I hated it I could even deal with white straight men being relegated to the trash heap of the future, but it's just not Star Trek.
The fact that Michael Burnham is totally insubordinate at pretty much all times would have her thrown out of Starfleet. Remember Ensign Ro from TNG? Well, Burnham is Ro times 100 and she gets a free pass.
That being said, season 1 was a really good non Star Trek sci-fi show.
Then season 2 hit and it was getting silly and even less Star Trek than before and even more SJW. I started to fizzle out. Then season 3 was so out of bounds that it didn't even qualify as good sci-fi any longer. It seems that the people in charge of Discovery are more interested in not just doing the Roddenberry firsts (first black lead, purported first interracial kiss - but that has since been debunked) by having the first gay characters in Trek, then the first trans character in Trek and the show became more about those things than being Trek and they took this wildly stupid ride into the far future to try to give some kind of sci-fi to prop up these other SJW things.
So, now it's Picard and I hope they don't destroy that too.
No white straight males in a position of power... or at all come to think of it.
What is wrong with you over the top woke people? Star Trek was one of the most inclusive shows out there, you had to go too far and ruined it.
So war breaks out with the Klingons. A POW becomes head of security but his PTSD is so bad he winds up in the fetal position when he sees a Klingon and he's the only straight guy in the show, other than that it's women and sissies against the Klingons. Live long and be fabulous lol.
Jury's still out on this one. The first two episodes were utter crap. SJW characters, unbelievably weak Klingons and a lame story based on bad lens flare during space battles. I almost stopped watching. Third episode, the story takes a hard turn towards something dark, introduces a whole new cast (well, with a couple of exceptions) and does all this while resembling Star Trek.
Seriously, skip the first two episodes and start with Context Is for Kings. You'll thank me.
I don't know why I'm watching this.
Its not a good Star Trek show.
"No one can hear you scream in space"
Or even talk, because everyone whispers constantly....especially captain Burnham.
It’s certainly alien to me, i even forgot her name was Michael
I am doggedly watching the whole season (down to the last two episodes) because I've always been a Star Trek fan and because I love Jason Isaacs and will watch him in anything. Except I can barely force myself to keep going. First of all, it's not really a Star Trek series. As others have pointed out, Star Trek is optimistic. This is dark, and violent and filled with war and torture. I find myself going to the kitchen frequently to avoid having my stomach turned. I have never seen a TV show so filled with screaming, killing, and despair.
I will watch these last two episodes just to say I finished it, but I can't imagine paying to see the next season unless I read that it takes a turn in a different direction.
I rate this as a 3. Bad. I will change my mind, because this is incredible.
The first time watching, 8 to 9 seeped down to a 6.
I watch mediocre TV. Lots of Mediocre TV, i should enjoy this and be willing to suspend my disbelief. I have tens of thousands of hours of TV on trakt, and elsewhere, hundreds of scifi shows. This series is ... superlative garbage. I... hate this show. I shouldn't hate it, it's gorgeous and awesome and I ... hate this. I want to mildly be annoyed, or wishing it could do better, but i can't believe or make myself appreciate it and stop thinking about the stages it went through to become this bad and intolerable
As i started to deconstruct, things became apparent and awful, things i'd glimmered over, are dead ends, and immersive elements that are hit or miss when the story is good, detract from the pilot "movie" in catastrophic ways. Meddling is everywhere.
What ruins this show is not the acting, or the CGI, it's the story and the characters.
Then, it quickly dawned on me that this was a parody, because of one badly written Mary Sue of a character, Michael Burnham. Nothing about the show feels like it should exist when she is in the room, on screen or interacting with other people once you've seen Ep 2. As I watched, and become more disillusioned, the score dropped below a 5. i passed the point of tolerating the show's banality around the point of the second episode's flashbacks to Michael's upbringing and the "vulcan hello", because the character is integral, and damaged. but ultimately, you don't sympathise.
I can see what this was supposed to be, what it was, what it could have been. Burnham is a catalyst, as was Spock. But they overwrote the shit out of the character to get there, and it harms the entire fabric of the universe of the show to get to the point of where she is invulnerable and heroic, brave and stunning, awesome and likeable, charming and elfin, charismatic and effective, smart and capable, vulnerable and emotional, concerned and ruthless, etc.
Yes, we get it. Michael Burnham is a Disney Princess, along with Rey from Force Awakens and Padme from Episode 2, right ? There are action figures in the stores already, right ?
I will definitely keep watching because it's Star Trek, as this is supposed to be "The Original Series" prequel, No.
=FUCK THIS SHOW=
Everything about this show once you remove the billion dollars of money about to be poured into the franchise, is tepid. All the writers that have "polished" or dumbed things down, added a bit of pep or written out dialogue to make it more personable, more emotional, etc. are meddling with a concept that should not need this much work, to the extent that it's severely overwritten and layered insanity on top of insanity. Whatever was clever or good about the first, second or third draft is meaningless.
I don't even need to put a benchmark on this, because they have an android, wearing a Daft Punk Helmet, who is a woman. WHY ? Every answer i've seen to this flatly refuses to point to this character, perhaps because they have no names.
They are expendable, forgettable placeholders. Great.
Here's what I've created for a backstory, because it makes no difference whatsoever ... The Android probably has a tragic orphan backstory where her parents were a windows 10 desktop that suddenly died as a result of installing CCleaner and she was brought up all alone, and grew up on Earth as a triple-monitor desktop, answering search queries for Bing, and in 2120, decided to get a human body, and then in 2210 travelled the stars as a ship's computer, got into a relationship with their captain, which ended badly, had a sex change, hung out with her new friends on vulcan who preferred her as a vertical monitor setup ... and here she is, a highly decorated veteran ship's computer, a valued member of the crew of a starship, adorning a helmet with her vertical monitors showing her proud heritage of being a unique individual who knows who she is ... Oh, and she can also travel through time, her father is secretly Harry Potter, and she can wear earrings and smoke, because she's cool like that too, and, because it's the future, smoking is totally safe because of magic, er nanobots. and also, she's an android so she doesn't have to worry about being a slut, so she's had sex with like, all the cute alien boys and...
etc.
Why are there people with flashing headwear, why is there an android/robot on the crew, interfaces do nothing, or have standard controls. Why does the captain ask for things she knows don't exist. Is it because the crew wants Burnham to die ? I'd believe that. Part of me knows it's a writer's device to show empathy for the Protag when she's in danger, by being so concerned she's desperate for a different answer so she can feel she tried to help as much as possible.
And then there's the video-game holograms and tactical eye-tracking interfaces that don't do anything, that lack cohesion or thought or practical elements from a design POV.
Until i can get past the idea that this is a terribly overblown Fan Fiction like My Immortal or Warcraft the Movie, I keep hitting dead ends where i want to be positive and give it consideration unduly, or see what other people do like about it.
But I can't.
My brain keeps rejecting the writing, the dialogue,
the character motivations are garbage,
the names are irrelevant,
The design of visual elements is distilled failure.
The technical design is fantastic levels of failed design methodology and concept.
world building is broken at a fundamental level because there's no coherence within the established universe or themes, no bridging characters or elements exist other than ... there's phasers and communicators and the logo is the same.
the thematic elements of the "New" federation values,
the sudden expendability of a bridge officer versus a starship with armor and radiation shielding. or a shuttle. or a probe. On a science ship, i guess ? because I tend to trust the instinct of a naval commander that likes to jump on a jetski and "git er dun" to fix problems or investigate an anomaly in the wake of a sun's extreme radiation.
The fact that nobody countermands or prohibits "Michael" as an officer is ... problematic. To let someone with a deathwish be in command, let alone the captain's favourite, the crew must want her dead. This is the only explanation i've been able to conceive of that works here, and it makes the show better if you imagine that the only member of the crew wanting to keep her alive is the computer which is obliged by ethical routines it can't ignore, and the captain, who admires a brattish psychopath who would definitely murder everyone on the crew to prove a point. The speculation of a lesbian relationship is not dismissable, but it's trite and convenient, so there's a strong possibility it actually exists or was muted at some stage.
So, naturally, this is what makes good captains in the future. Ambition, Pride and bare metal confidence in being correct, brown-nosing up to people in higher command, and latent psychotic tendencies. FANTASTIC This, in spite of the Mary Sue elements of an orphaned girl, who is Spock's adopted sister, who has a secret vulcan power of telepathy, and has to be the best person of all time when she's in the room and is always the best; because she's a girl ! with issues! and she wants to help everyone by killing! Just put a fucking light saber in her hand and call her Rey.
I have zero compassion or sympathy because everyone who deals with this level of insanity and tolerates her deserves to die. Gifted isn't the right word, it's Magical thinking that makes this show awesome. By sharp comparison, this makes Enterprise better, and makes the rest of Star Trek worse.
This is sort of the Wookie Defense in a nutshell. If you can accept that there's a reason for this, or you didn't notice, or you did, and have no problems, fuck you. I don't have any strong feelings whatsoever on the Klingons as a threat or as a character, or as a race or culture, because, it is so poorly done in theme that it's obviously a "hook" designed to reel you in.
I don't even trust the hook, the reel, the fish, the fisherman, the concept is bankrupted by the script and design that went into this. I expect this from zombie movies, or first time directors, or reality TV shows, where you don't need a backstory.
Vin Diesel needs to race a car to steal a bank vault, f yeah, lets go with it.
Naval Pilot decides to learn to ice skate because he has cancer, then starts a nuclear war with Iceland, okay, maybe not.
First officer decides to jetpack into a radiation hazard, kills someone, then to hide the evidence, wants to kill the entire ship of people to stop them from becoming martyrs when they find the body, and then decides to attack anyway when everyone around her says no.
Classy. Top Notch Entertainment. 9/10 Excitement and Thrills.
100% trash show. I love Star Trek. This isn't Star Trek. This is Drama Trek. Who are the people that are enjoying this hot mess?
What a waste of my precious time on this planet to spend watching this horrible show.
The universe full of a holes. Star trek a la Game of Thrones. Dune ripoff. If the action was placed after Voyager everything would be okay, especially Klingon mutants. Excellent stunning effects and CGI but story and characters are catastrophic. No imagination. I love Star Trek but this is terribly bad.
Please, kill this show.
While first two seasons were watchable and even entertaining, the third went downhill after first few episodes. Aaaand here comes the fourth season and I'm still unable to determine which character i hate most.
Please, let this be the last season so we can all quickly forget about this show and hope for something new and worthy of the Trek series.
very feminist, now every thief are women, the "captain" what can I say... pffff
Oh yay... Star Trek WOKEovery is back for season 5 :( Lets see how bad they make this season..
This show should be cancelled, and erased from memory ! Star Trek should be star trek and not a woke brainwash with bad actors and worse storyline!
Much better than expected. The first 3 episodes have been great!!
Update: I'm done with it at episode 5... it's all about one person (Michael) and her dull and boring battle with everybody every week. Why are the Klingons so ugly? What was wrong with the original ones?
stopped watching after season 2, the sjw and woke crap went to 11 and there is almost no star trek in this show anymore, no expiration, no new aliens, no adventure, just sjw crap and emotions... skip season 3 and 4.. and I hope this series gets killed off and the writers fired.
I hate this show.
If it weren't Star Trek, it would still be an objectively terrible show.
The acting is over-the-top. the characters are not developed, the plot makes no sense, the characters behave in unrelatable ways, it consistently ignores reality/physics, and the CGI is just too damn much.
Fingers crossed this gets cancelled in 2020. This isn't Trek.
Really disappointed with this show and it's direction. So so sick of the cw Love story crap. It makes no sense and takes away from the story.
I like the characters a lot (so far) but maybe most of them are a little bit too young for be in a position like the first officer. But the captain is great. I don't like it that they changed the look of the klingons and the fact that the show is based before TOS.
I will rate the show after i saw the full first season. But i wish the show the best even i don't agree with some of the decisions they made (Klingons, age of the characters and the fact that it's not based after Voyager).
You couldn't pay me to recommend this God Awful, Hot-Garbage to anyone.
Please, someone save us from this epic failure of a show which seems hell bent to drag Gene Roddenberry's legacy further into the ground. How dare they even associate this garbage with Star Trek let alone quote him at the end of an episode.
Season one wasn't too bad. However, there's no Star Trek feel to it whatsoever. Not sure the producers ever watched a Star Trek series or movie. This is just a slow soap opera set in space. It's getting worse every year. Sad.
This thing is so bad, yet they keep producing it. They should be ashamed of the writing and the characters in this show. As a life-long Trekkie who watched the original when it aired, this is just unmitigated crap. The casting may be without a doubt the worst in Trek history. It's amazing how they've taken something as simple as episodic science fiction and turned it into a farce. Please, Paramount, spend the money elsewhere, I don't want anymore Trek if this is what we get. I can live off what I already own.
Why this even has the name Star Trek is beyond me. Watched the complete season 1, no exploring or positive vibes at all. I will recomend any true trekkie to avoid this like the plague :cry:
There's nothing better than good sci fi.
There's nothing worse than bad sci fi.
This is most certainly the second one.
Shout by GaryBlockedParent2020-12-03T21:41:35Z
Life Long Star Trek fan here,... and I'm done with this rubbish, This has gone full Woke, PC-Culture. And what is with the virtually None Caucasian cast?... Plus, the only TRUE Starfleet actors are PIKE & SARU, to which I'd be proud to have them as ambassadors for Humanity.