Did they leave a planet to get destroyed, and then forget about it seconds later. This movie is annoying
Carol Danvers is the only, and will always be "THE ONLY" Ms Marvel.
I watched this film this afternoon and I gotta say that IMHO the hate this film is already getting is almost totally unjustified. I think Brie Larson, Teyonah Parris and Iman Vellani did a brilliant job with their respective characters and their on screen chemistry with each other was spot on.
I agree with the criticisms I've read re: Dar-Benn the main villain, she was maybe a lil one dimensional but she was performed ok and fitted the narrative of the story as an Accuser looking to avenge Captain Marvel's destruction of the Kree empire.
I liked the final scene showing us what's to come with Ms Marvel meeting Kate Bishop, leading to the formation of The Young Avengers.
And finally there is one mid credit scene and that is a BIG reveal as we get introduced to an X-Men universe and we meet Kelsey Grammer's Beast and Binary played by Lashana Lynch (Maria Rambeau in the normal MCU universe).
For me personally this is a 8/10 film. I really enjoyed it!
Why does this feel like I'm watching one of Kamala's Captain Marvel fanfics
To be honest, I don't really get the hate. All movies in the MCU are meant to just turn off your brain and enjoy. If you do that, you'd realize these movies are actually a lot of fun even if you didn't watch their origin stories (I don't really remember Captain Marvel's movie or watched Ms Marvels's movie but I really enjoyed this one)...Though I could be wrong but I don't think the other one had an origin story released in the MCU, and that's ok.
Do you need to watch any other movies in the MCU to understand this one? Maybe Avengers Endgame as they do reference the blip...but tbh that is like 2 seconds of the movie so you'd be ok if you haven't seen it.
It’s not often that I have such a strong aversion to a movie that I have not seen. I will never ever ever watch this. From the preview, posters past Miss Marvel etc. I know with 100% certainty that I will hate this movie. I’m still having cringe flashbacks from the preview. And I love bad ass chicks - I even have Trakt list by that name…
Had there been any semblance of quality control at Marvel, they would have realized this movie was unfit for cinematic release.
Constructing a movie that requires hours of Disney+ homework to understand not one, but two main characters who have never been introduced into the cinematic universe before is not conducive to a good viewing experience.
Plot feels flimsy, sloppy and chopped to hell, character arcs are non-existent, and Captain Marvel in particular is written as a completely different character from her first film. Third act is contrived and on auto-pilot.
This must be the first film written by chatgpt
"The Marvels" showcases impressive chemistry among its three lead characters, delivering a fun and charming dynamic that stands out. The film excels in setting up future stages of the MCU, echoing the groundbreaking promise of "Iron Man" nearly two decades ago. The editing deserves praise for seamlessly handling the protagonists' power swaps.
However, the movie suffers from a convoluted plot, juggling too many characters, locations, and side stories simultaneously, leading to a lack of investment in certain elements. The villain, while having a clear drive, feels underdeveloped and reminiscent of past two-dimensional Marvel antagonists. The film's reliance on Disney Plus shows for a complete understanding may alienate viewers who haven't watched them, posing a potential challenge for those seeking a standalone cinematic experience. Despite these issues, "The Marvels" remains a must-watch for MCU fans, offering crucial insights into the future of the universe.
too short, needed more backstory, plot development
ms marvel was sexy, elegant and womanizing, the MCU killed that character. Created abomination.
The mediocracy of Marvel Phase Five continues with The Marvels, another generic superhero film. When the new Kree leader launches a series of attacks on other worlds, Captain Marvel attempts to stop her, but finds herself switching places with two other women due to a mysterious connection. Brie Larson seems to be phoning in her performance, but Iman Vellani is incredible charismatic and really shines in her role. Also, the writing is rather weak; particularly in how it tries to manufacture conflict between Marvel and her pseudo-niece and create some kind of mystery as to what happened with Marvel and the Kree. Still, there are some fun and exciting action scenes, as well as some nice bits of humor. The Marvels is entertaining and delivers some thrills, but it’s largely forgettable and does little to advance the larger MCU.
While the musical communication scene caught my attention as a musical enthusiast, the film overall left much to be desired. The randomness throughout often left me bewildered, struggling to follow the plot. The ending, though amusing, seemed more absurd than satisfying, eliciting laughter for perhaps unintended reasons.
Despite its shortcomings, I found some enjoyment, particularly in Miss Marvel, who emerged as a standout character. However, "The Marvels" falls short of becoming a favourite in the Marvel cinematic universe, with its disjointed narrative and an ending that leans towards the ludicrous.
The musical crap I could have dealt without but the rest was good. People were way over critical, it's not the best but not the worst as painted in the media.
Better than I thought it would be, but not as good as it could have been.
Just like with any of the Marvel movies, the production is great... that's never the problem. The issue I had with this was the forced comedy. Now, humor is nothing new to Marvel movies, it has been there since the beginning, however somewhere along the way, jokes have been used to bring a scene to a screeching halt, because... I suppose the filmmakers think that the audience can't handle action or drama that doesn't have a joke at the end.
Speaking of which, the overall tone of the movie is a kids/family film. Now, that isn't by itself bad, although, there are two types of kids' movies: ones that are geared toward kids, but can be enjoyed by anyone, the other type is one that treats the audience like idiots, since "they're kids, they don't know." Guess which category this one fits into.
All that being said, there are some genuinely funny moments, but not many. Where the movie really shines is when it can take a moment seriously and just be action or drama. Then it's good.
Onto the characters: Brie is back as Captain Marvel, and I think she really did well in the role here - I was not terribly impressed with the Captain Marvel (2019) movie - it seems as though she is having more fun playing the character now.
Our second heroine kept refusing to take a superhero name, so I will not give her one. She was okay.
Third: Ms. Marvel. I thought she was great. This could have been her movie, and it may have worked better. Now, that being said, a huge problem for me was her family. I've not watched the Ms. Marvel series - and likely won't - so, I don't have a full appreciation of all of those characters, but if they are like this on the show, I would not make it beyond the first episode.
Finally: we have Nick Fury. Same issue. Too much comic relief. It is possible to make a family-friendly film that is serious, and have well-timed humor that works within the moment.
So, yeah, the movie is pretty good. I'd almost want to watch it again, however the musical scene was the death knell for me. I had heard there was a musical moment, but I thought it was a joke; nope, I wish it were.
I'd recommend this to anyone who liked the Guardians of the Galaxy (2014-2023) movies, but want something geared toward younger audiences.
I didn't watch this movie on release because youtube reviews got to me before I got to watching it, and there was all this wild negativity on the movie. so Multiple months later I finally took the time to watch it, and I didn't have a problem with it much at all. I can understand yes hollywood does do some boring sometimes repetitive stuff, or some content can seem dull. or how movies 10 or 20 years ago were better than they are today, but yeah if you don't let the internet control what movies you want to see or not see and you don't subscribe to the norm I guess. I can definitely say that yes there was a lot of editing lots of 3D lots of heavy VFX! I liked it alot for that much of that part and appreciate it. So yeah I should say that not letting youtubers like "Moon" effect what it is that you like watching or not watching.
I did watch the nick fury "Secret Invasion" TV show that might be a small requirement to need a little bit of context when it comes to watching this movie. Though with the amount of information that was shown on the green goblin looking figures they keep it concise on their issues and to be continued, and there will probably be a follow up to the Secret Invasion at some point I think.
Even for a superhero movie, this is pretty dumb, and full of plot holes you could drive a semi through!
[7.4/10] A movie can live on good vibes alone. Don’t think too hard about the mechanics of a planet that can only communicate in song, or the logistics of the digestion habits and transportation of dozens of alien kittens, or the mechanics of the light-based entanglement of The Marvels trio of leads. Just sit back and enjoy the ride. If you can do that, you’re in for a good time.
The best part of 2019’s Captain Marvel was the buddy comedy between Carol Danvers and Nick Fury. Its more ecumenical sequel smartly leans into that, giving audiences the great buddy comedy of Carol and her new chums: surrogate niece, Monica Rambeau and young admirer Kamala Khan. And Fury is back for good measure, not only trading some laugh-worthy lines with the Marvels, but also amusingly bouncing off the rest of the Khan family and his subordinates. This movie thrives on banter and the charm of the proceedings, even if you have to leave sense at the door.
The charm is good, because beyond the science fiction-y, quasi-magical confluence of nonsense going on here, the character arcs are pretty thin here too. Captain Marvel is haunted by the consequence of her destroying the Supreme Intelligence had on the Kree homeworld, consequences that mostly happen off-screen and so have little impact. Monica is salty that Carol never returned despite promising to, and Captain Marvel’s decision not to is tied to that Kree catastrophe through a gossamer thin thread, which Monica forgives for reasons that are no firmer.
And Kamala Khan gets to meet her hero and, but for one minor bump in the road...it pretty much goes great. I don’t know what Ms. Marvel’s arc is supposed to be here. She dreams of being an Avenger and then basically gets to be one, I guess?
Still, I can't complain because Iman Vellani continues to be a revelation in the role, and Ms. Marvel continues to be the best new hero the MCU has introduced since Endgame. Her flummoxed-but-unruffled disposition, starry-eyed desire to do good, and sheer giddiness at getting to team up with her hero continue to win the day. The combination of empathy, enthusiasm, and relatable kid-dealing-with-parents energy the character brings to the table makes her stand out yet again.
The movie’s big silly set pieces are also just charming. The film makes the most of the thinly-sketched conceit that Carol, Monica, and Kamala are “entangled” via their light-based powers, and thus switch places every time they use their powers. The chaotic absurdity when they’re getting a handle on the swaps and squaring off against bad guys everywhere from an alien space station to S.A.B.E.R. headquarters to the Khans’ living room is a treat. The montage where The Marvels learn how to use their powers and have a ball testing them out is endearing for all three of them. And it ties into the movie’s vague theme about the three of them coming together and working best when they’re a part of a team.
Granted, the film’s action varies between inscrutable and bad. The Marvels can get away with a little bit of confounding combat, given the place-swapping conceit of the team’s powers. But even when they’ve mastered it, or are mostly fighting one-on-one, the fisticuffs are chopped all to hell in the editing bay, with indifferent results. In the same vein, the CGI here is a cut below, with unconvincing mid-air green screening and artificial backdrops, a not-ready-for-primetime fully-animated Beast, and full-powered over-glowy versions of Captain Marvel and Monica Rambeau that just look silly.
This level of craft might be forgivable for a mid-range project, but coming from one of the most successful movie studios in the world, they should be able to do better. WIth complaints about crunch and process from effects teams, the shabby results affirm that some rethinking of the whole approach is in order.
But some of that is forgivable with the loony charm of other set pieces in the film. As little sense as it makes, The Marvels’ visit to a planet that communicates entirely in song is terrific. In the humor department, Carol’s tenseness at being the planet’s princess strictly for “political reasons”, Monica being resistant to the whole deal, and Kamala absolutely reveling in it is a complete delight. Likewise, don’t ask why Nick Fury can depend on a bunch of newborn alien cats to keep his S.A.B.E.R. team in their stomachs for a whole spaceship ride, conveniently without gulping down any of the main characters, and just enjoy the goofy imagery of a litter of kittens gobbling up space accountants.
The only weak point that really gets in the way is the villain. Dar-Benn has a decent gripe -- that Captain Marvel, whom she dubs “The Annihilator” disrupted her world. She has an appropriately evil scheme -- stealing climate and resources from other worlds. And Zawe Ashton gives a solid performance. Dar--Benn’s just wildly underdeveloped, feels tossed into the proceedings rather than a vital part of them, and gets dispatched without much real trouble.
It doesn’t help that the nature of The Marvels’ powers is fuzzy as all hell, which isn’t a major problem, except that it’s vital to the plot. Dar-Benn is absorbing Carol’s powers to exert her schemes. But she’s also mixing some power from her big “cosmic rod” which messes things up. But she also has a matching bangle to the one Kamala inherited in the Ms. Marvel show. But it’s no problem, because Carol can just peel those off when she tackles Dar-Benn into a big interdimensional rift. But that's fine, because Monica apparently has the power to absorb the energy from that rift and seal it, even if it sends her to an X-Men universe. And it turns out Dar-Benn’s whole project was unnecessary, since all it took was a pep talk and some technobabble for Captain Marvel to realize she can use her powers to restart the Kree homeworld’s sun anyway. Phew.
It’s all a big nonsense stew. But you know what? In a “phase” that has left many MCU fans disappointed, he Marvels feels like classic Phase One or Phase Two Marvel. Yes, the villain is forgettable and the plot is held together by popsicle sticks and bubble gum, but there’s charm out the wazoo. Kamala, Monica, and Carol have an incredibly fun dynamic together. Nick Fury bouncing off of them and Kamala’s family is a treat and a laugh every time. This is light adventure, heavy on the light, and it’s not afraid of having a good time at the expense of pure soundness of construction throughout the movie.
It’s an approach that's worked well for the MCU for a long time. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy rollicking potboilers and clearer character stories as much as anybody. But regardless of whether The Marvels adds up to a greater whole, it is a fun watch on a scene-to-scene basis. In an era where more and more superhero films feel the need to present some vital lore or try to cram complicated character work between the mandatory fireworks shows, there’s something refreshing about a film that puts on a coat of paint for both, but saves most of its fire for simply being entertaining. On charm and fun alone, The Marvels is a good time at the movies.
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There are people that like this movie, and people that love it, I am not one of them.
This movie has very little for me to like, and it’s too reliant on parts of the mcu that a large part of the audience hasn’t seen. It’s not inclusive like other mcu movies, you lost an opportunity to get a bigger audience.
I’m fine with a movie that caters to teen girls and female empowerment but I am not sure this really does but it doesn’t even try to appeal to the comic book fans nor is it well done on its own.
I have watched the shows with both the main characters and they are the mains as captain marvel is kind of an after thought. But even watching the shows this could have had a little be more exposition.
I get Ms. Marvel’s character is a fan girl but tone it down it quickly gets annoying when it’s every scene.
Monica Rambeau is interesting here and she is really the heroine of the movie but they don’t even bother to give her a superhero name. And everything else with her has been vague.
Yes I’m going to complain about the stupid musical number crammed in for no reason. It could have been left out in favor of character development. Hell they forgot about the whole place and I am assuming that world is dying too, if not the movie failed to make it clear.
I did like the cats it’s goofy but fun. And the training montage is actually refreshing to have supers dealing with real issues but went way too long.
Maybe the planet of psycho space nazis should be done away with, maybe just make it a prison for them so they don’t destroy sane planets with their stupid ideas and complete cluelessness that they are the problem. The villain is so one dimensional that it collapses space around it.
While anyone with that much power could just find an uninhabited planet and move that would not be the marvel universe. And intelligent problem solving can only happen after fight scenes.
I'm 26 yo, and today, 30th march 2024, I've seen the worst movie ever made
Cute movie but honestly getting sick of the girl power movies always hitting the girly stereotypes. The chemistry between the 3 female leads is great, so it's that much more disappointing that it has to hit all those girly girl BS.
If these companies, especially Disney, want to create real female heroes then they're going to have to let go of this Disney princess garbage. It's false, misleading, and makes girls that want to grow up to be taken seriously think that it's a requirement to be girly still. Worse it instills it into boys and men who watch this. Young women should be shown as strong without the princess nonsense.
Finally the multiverse is stupid. Unlimited universes would mean only a matter of time before the whole thing would collapse mathematically. Fun to explain how so many characters can die, come back to life, redo entire storylines, but tired and not based in any reality.
Still fun, but just like every other Disney movie about female leads, so a 6/10.
I can see why this movie exists and who it might appeal to, but to a general fan this one will be skipped/forgettable. It is cheesy, noticeably lower budget, and does not hit the highs of the great superhero films. I still enjoyed this much more than several Marvel films, but it is FAR from the best.
Rating: 2/5 - 65% - Not Recommended to Everyone
One of the worst Marvel movies. OMG
What a dogsh*t movie. They really do a disservice to women by pretending this garbage is empowering.
I genuinely hope women get better superheroes than this trash.
This was a really fun movie and I'm so disappointed I didn't support it in theaters. It was the same amount of fun I got from Thor Ragnarok! I implore anyone to give a try, the chemistry between the three actresses is very fun and it adds nicely to the wider "cosmic" world that's been built by Ragnarok and the Guardian movies!
What kind of bs resolutions were those...!!? Pulling "space-time" fracture pieces with "light" threads, like Spiderman pulling trains with his web! And Carol just jump-started a star..! If she could've done that, then their entire civil war happened because "Carol didn't think of that." Disappointing.
I had low expectations for this only because the trailer made it look pretty bad.
This was fun to watch, Iman Vellani was adorable. I’ve only seen half of Ms Marvel, but I thought she was great and added a fun dynamic to it.
Story was typical Marvel, the power switching was inconsistent but a neat idea and the ending seemed anti climactic.
That could have easily been one of Ms Marvels episodes - nothing special about it
Wow, that was painful to watch.
This film really highlights the flaw in the MCU's ambition to tell stories that connect to their TV-shows. I'm their ideal viewer. I'm caught up on all my MCU homework. I saw Wandavision. I saw Ms. Marvel. But the problem is they have to perform a balancing act of writing a movie that works on its own, while also leveraging the storytelling that took place on the small screen. The end result is a weird middle ground, where the characters from the TV shows feel like they get incomplete introductions, with awkward references to TV show events shoehorned in to connect the dots. It didn't work for me, and I suspect that it will be even less effective for the uninitiated.
As for the actual content of this movie, I think there are the seeds of an interesting plot (Captain Marvel confronting/atoning for the unforeseen negative ramifications of destroying the Supreme Intelligence), but the execution is severely lacking. Motivations feel forced, characters/relationships/conflicts are underdeveloped, and the story is rushed. There's sparks of creativity here and there (e.g., the power based body swapping, the singing planet), but none of it sticks the landing and the end result is another forgettable MCU adventure.
While the chemistry between the leads shines, "The Marvels" struggles with a muddled plot and rushed emotional connections, leaving it a disappointing entry in the MCU.
Marvel is dead. This is not marvel
waste of my time. so disappointed.
So, complicated thing about this movie. If you're watching it as a stand alone movie, I'm not sure you'd have any idea what the F was going on or who anyone is, and even if it's technically a sequel which requires you to watch the 1st one, it also takes 2 disney plus shows, and this is where some casual fans may start getting lost or losing interest. The movie isn't bad, and it isn't the worst Marvel movie made so far like some people are saying. It's fun, the characters have good chemistry, I feel like if you missed "Ms Marvel" though then you'd just be wondering who the hell everyone is half the time.
Now, onto your Marvel ride or die fans, aka the ones that watched everything and will totally get who everyone is and what's going on. While it's not a dumpster fire like Eternals and Quantomania, and while the action is fun to watch and the chemistry between the actors shines, it still comes across somewhat... Flat? I think more accurately, unnecessary. I hope this is the last of these Phase 4 and 5 marvel movies that just seem like they were created strictly to add content, because I can't see how much of anything that happened outside of the last few minutes in this movie is going to matter to the bigger picture here. I think Captain Marvel just might not be that... interesting I guess. And no, it's not because she's a woman, I'm not just hating on a girl power movie, I just can't break this character down. I can tell you almost everyone's intentions in all of these movies, and sure they did have a couple "cheap" villains here and there, but this is the only "Headliner" character that I just can't figure out what they want. And before anyone says anything like she's just doing what Spider-Man does on a universal scale instead of one city, I'm not talking about superficially what she's doing, I'm asking why is she doing it and where is it all supposed to be going? When it's mentioned to her she could save the Kree planet by just giving a fuck, it was like a light bulb turned on in her head "Oh, yeah, you're right huh?" Write her better already, or make her a less focal point of the story.
There doesn't need to be a 3rd captain marvel film, just like there doesn't need to be a 5th Thor (Or a 4th one). It would have moved the story along just as well as if we got the entire first hour and a half from the movie and just squished it with the after-credits scene, because other than moving the chess pieces around the board a little, nothing was accomplished here. Another one-dimensional villain, another movie where despite all the death and destruction around us, nothing in the world can stop a bad joke from landing! It's time to move on from this formula, it's starting to feel like Chat GPT is in the writers room.
People can’t seem to agree on The Marvels, but it’s definitely not worse than Thor: The Dark World and it’s also better than the original Captain Marvel. You can’t convince me otherwise.
I had a pretty okay time with this. Kamala is easily the highpoint, but I must say, I like the these three together most of the time. The training montage was fun, for example. I even chuckled a few times. Not so serious Nick Fury fits right in and is a lot more fun than Secret Invasion’s grumpy old bastard.
Does it have issues? Sure, the whole thing is super rushed. That doesn’t benefit the storytelling, but it is nice and short because of it. A had a bigger problem with things happening or people knowing things, because they have to in order to keep things moving in the necessary direction.
“I have to close the rift from the other side.”
“Why?”
“Just because.”
That’s just one example and it’s lazy writing. That is the biggest flaw for me, so it’s not the singing planet or something. Yes, it’s goofy and weird. And it doesn’t make sense at all, but I didn’t really mind it.
There was almost a consensus that this film was bad, but it is very bad. I don't know what audience Disney/Marvel wanted to reach, but it must have pleased a very small group.
The fight scenes are pathetic. The scenes with Kamala's family are at the most childish level possible.
this was fun as hell and i feel genuinely bad for anyone who didn't enjoy it. not a cinematic masterpiece, absolutely a weak villain, but this is the mcu—fun is all i want out of the franchise these days.
Great fun, even with the monotonous score. The scene during the credits was fantastic.
It's only downward from the last movies. I just watched it to see if I miss anything. But it if you didn't watch the ms marvel serie and Wanda vision you barely understand it. This movie is utter crap. The cgi is bad and the sad face of cap marvel is getting on my nerves.
This was an embarrassment. Only writers purposely out to destroy a movie could’ve produced this hot garbage. They’re the real villains in this story.
Ugh! I guess it would have helped if we'd watched Captain Marvel first, but it was still just so awful. Confusing, weird, not funny. Only saving grace were the costumes and scenery at the various worlds.
:face_with_symbols_over_mouth::rage: - Honestly terrible film.. Could have done much better
10:heart:- Masterpiece :100:
9:heart:- Excellent
8:heart: - Amazing :ok_hand:
7:heart:- Great :sun_with_face:
6:heart: - Good :thumbsup:
5:heart: - Average :head_bandage:
4:heart: - Bad but watchable :octagonal_sign:
3:heart: - Bad :sob:
2:rage:- Awful :face_vomiting:
1:face_with_symbols_over_mouth: - Bull Shit
I think the intended audience is younger than me, which explains why it didn’t hit home for me.
However what I DID love, I sure loved a lot: Kamala, the Flerkins, and the mid-credit scene.
I think it’s a fun, fast paced movie, and it will knock it out of the park for the more youthful crowd. I just think I’ve become more of a “get off my lawn you wacky kids!” than “how do you do, fellow kids?” and that’s not The Marvel’s fault.
A Review of "The Marvels" (2023): A Superhero Misstep in a Universe of Giants
As a longstanding enthusiast of the superhero genre, particularly the expansive universe Marvel Studios has meticulously built over the years, it's with a heavy heart and a furrowed brow that I delve into my thoughts on "The Marvels." Released in November 2023, directed by Nia DaCosta, and penned by Megan McDonnell among others, this sequel to "Captain Marvel" aims to weave together the stories of Carol Danvers, Kamala Khan (Ms. Marvel), and Monica Rambeau. On paper, this convergence of mighty heroines should spell an epic narrative. Yet, as the credits rolled, I found myself grappling with a bewildering concoction of disappointment and disbelief. How did we get here, from the heights of "Endgame" to... this?
Plot and Execution: A Tangled Web of Potential Unfulfilled
At its core, "The Marvels" presents an intriguing premise: a universe destabilized, a trio of heroes bound by fate, and a wormhole linking destinies. The stage was set for a spectacle of cosmic proportions. Instead, what unfurled was a narrative so jumbled and directionless it felt akin to navigating a wormhole blindfolded. The plot, for lack of a better word, was a patchwork quilt made from scraps of better garments. Its flimsiness was outmatched only by its inability to anchor the trio's journey in anything resembling stakes or coherence.
Characterization: Superficiality Over Substance
Carol Danvers, once a beacon of resilience and complexity, was reduced to a caricature of her former self. Kamala Khan and Monica Rambeau, despite the talents of their respective actors, were given scant material to evolve beyond the superficial. The dynamic between the three, which could have been the film's saving grace, was instead a missed opportunity, lacking depth and genuine connection. It felt as though the script was more concerned with ticking boxes than exploring the rich tapestries of these characters' lives and legacies.
Special Effects and Action: A Flicker of Redemption
If there's a glimmer of redemption to be found in "The Marvels," it lies in its special effects and action sequences. Yet, even these felt hollow without a compelling narrative to anchor them. Spectacle cannot compensate for a story that feels like an afterthought, a lesson that "The Marvels" serves as a stark reminder of.
A Step Backward in a Genre That Should Propel Forward
In an era where superhero films have the potential to be about so much more than battles and bravado, "The Marvels" feels like a significant step back. It's a film that, despite its title, evokes no sense of wonder or awe. In a universe where we've witnessed the depths of human (and superhuman) complexity, to be presented with something so lacking in depth and nuance is not just disappointing; it's disheartening.
Final Thoughts
"The Marvels" was an opportunity to build on the legacy of one of Marvel's most iconic heroes and to introduce new layers to the ever-expanding MCU. Instead, it serves as a cautionary tale of what happens when spectacle is prioritized over story, and characters are treated as chess pieces rather than the beating hearts of the narrative.
In a universe teeming with tales of heroism, redemption, and the complexities of power, "The Marvels" feels like an underwhelming whisper in a cacophony of voices that have, in the past, spoken so much more profoundly. As we look to the future of superhero cinema, one can only hope for a return to the storytelling depth and character-driven narratives that once made this genre soar.
Wow i have never seen such a boring uninteresting Amateur Film as the Marvels.
Bad Acting, Boring Story (actually this Film didnt have a Story) and a Samuel L. Jackson who is in every Movie that comes to the Cinema - at least it feels that way... I turn off the TV after 80 minutes or so because this Movie was not worth my precious time.
I hope that this isnt the end of the Marvel MCU, there are a lot good Movies in there.
And its not the female lead i m criticising there are a LOT good Movies with female Lead Actors like Kill Bill, Neil Marshalls The Descent or Ridley Scotts Alien, only to name a few.
This isnt simply one of them - could it be better ?
Sure with a good Script and a betterDirector.
I’ve not enjoyed the last few Marvel productions so went into this expecting to hate it but I’ve got to say I really enjoyed it. It was a fast paced fun movie and it wasn’t overly long kept me entertained.
This is part of the downfall of Marvel movies. I was a big fan of the early movies. And as a kid a loved the comics. But what happend to the scripts and storytelling and I miss the 'darkness' overall. This movies is anothet example: storytelling is bad. There is no character building. Why are the trying to put humor in it? Its not funny at all. It's the humor of Thor, she-hulk, mss marvel... I feel these movies are only pushing womenpower.. why is that have to be in combination with badscripting, bad humor and bad storytelling? Oh and half-way the movie the writes thought it would be funny that they end up in a place where the only can sing... wtf
Oh and I liked WandaVision and Loki a lot by the way.
Film 57 (Goal: 300) of 2024
Doesn't deserve the hate it received. It's just really forgettable. Any time the film touches on potential it dashes it pretty quickly. Could also do without all the Flerken stuff. But man does Zawe Ashton suck. I get she's Tom Hiddelston's wife but she sucked in Velvet Buzzsaw and she sucked in this as well. Best moments are the interactions of Larson / Parris and Vellani, with Parris and Vellani getting a chance to show their star quality among their more famous lead.
Again, just standard and ultimately forgettable.
There is a post-credit scene (duh). Just how does Beast look worse 15+ years on.
Ranking: 25 / 33 (MCU Feature Films only)
Wow, the Marvel universe is really just scrapping the bottom of the barrel to cater for everyone.
This movie is squarely aimed at 10-14 year old girls. Everyone else should just skip this movie. Way too much girl drama.
Special effects are of course great, no expense spared in that department, but the story is incredibly weak, and honestly, I just don't like most of the characters.
Haters hating the movie que gives more comic books vibes...what a joke
I LOVE THE MARVELS...I LOVE SUPERHEROES MOVIES
Lacks proper writing and holds no artistic value. This could be said about nearly any Marvel movie, but with how boring and badly presented this one is - you can't even defend it for being fun.
Everything was decent until they got to Disney world with the fucking singing. Seriously who the fuck greenlit that? So cringe. And then the cat thing, really? Like really?
what an absolutely boring and forgettable villain. Dar-who?
I don't think even children dig this...
Marvel keeps getting PG-er solely because they're greedy fucks who want to grab only money with every movie. It's even toned down for kids. What? Is the idea to encompass as much audience as possible?
Also, the adults are more childish than the actual supposed children (25-year-olds masquerading as teens) it's baffling.
I really liked the first Captain Marvel movie but back then we were still in the Infinity Saga and basically all Marvel movies were great. Unfortunately we all know that the quality of Marvel movies has been stagnating ever since. There are a few outliers (Spider-Man, GotG Vol. 3 for example) but in most cases I‘m not even motivated to watch these movies on the big screen anymore. Same happened with The Marvels and so I waited for it to be released on Disney+ which was today. I must say that it is a decent movie and I thoroughly enjoyed it. It‘s also not too long which is a good thing. I would definitely recommend to watch the miniseries Ms. Marvel beforehand because the story will be much more enjoyable this way.
[Disney+] An obvious disaster that sometimes even ends up being so ridiculous that it is funny. At this rate, Phase Five of the MCU is going to be the most mediocre of all, which already indicates the exhaustion, not only of the viewers, but of the creators themselves. With insubstantial villains, unclear plots, childish ideas and little consistency in the main characters, it is not possible for a film to be entertaining. But above all there is a notable weakness in the concept of superheroes, a kind of self-parody that ends up turning them into uninteresting characters.
So bad, such a shame its gone this direction
More like Captain Cringe, so many non sensical plot points, song and dance routines and cats, I am definitely no the target audience for this tripe.
Decent. Not the best, not the worst, but it does take the risk. I personally think The Marvels fit this vibe perfectly. The soundtrack was decent, and the cgi, in most parts, looked great. The costumes weren't the best, and the story was like a wild adventure. A loose plot that took us nowhere but gave us a filler plot to join a trio.
I don't comment often on movies, but I gotta say I LOVED this one. There are so many haters out there over this movie, you really need to see it yourself and make your own decision on it. Yes, I've seen Ms. Marvel, which helps bring her into perspective for it, but I don't think that matters. I had no clue who Monica was, and that didn't matter. The characters all meshed so well, the story was fun and emotional. You don't need to be nose deep in the Marvel world to thoroughly enjoy this movie.
This tried very hard but totally failed. Right up there with Eternal
Captain Marvel 2.0 with lot's of everything!
Specifically in the inclusiveness section of the cast.
Okay, I'm gen-x so maybe this is more for the younger generations.
For me, this was a "see it once and do not add to the collection" kind of movie.
this movie has high production values, but it is a real letdown. unsure why it was ever released
Just BAD! Best part was seeing BEAST in the end! no the very very end
The rest can go into the future trash Bin! Like most of the woke industry this did it justice! If you want to sit through a Disney quality movie you're going to get exactly what you're asking for with this. High budget $220m movie. Crappy acting. Sam Jackson was seen very little as always. I recommend passing on this. You won't even get the feeling that you've watched a meaning marvels movie! Since Disney's takeover all the Marvel movies have been underwhelming, And have decided from this point forward that I no longer will be supporting this industry. The IP is dead, just like they killed Star Wars. Some of my most favorite, most memorable movie moments. Have been in the Marvel Universe and in the Star Wars. But thank you for killing all that! Hi5.
At least the fight scenes don't disappoint. And the credit scene salvages this film, LOL.
Cringe. This did not need to be made.
Absolute dumpster fire. Kamala Khan has to be the cringiest, worst "hero" in the MCU.
Outstanding Flick! The plot was a bit different than normal Marvel fare, but it was still awesome!
Didn’t expect much. But it was actually pretty entertaining. 7/10
Wanted to drop after 15 minutes couldn’t stand it at minute 27.
Stay away from this. This is the first MCU movie I will not be watching.
I really think MCU is dead.
Just more WOKE Garbage ! Belongs in the Septic Tank
*The Marvels, the latest instalment in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, presents a number of challenges that affect its ability to captivate audiences and maintain the studio's ever-declining quality standards.
From the outset, the film faces the criticism of being boring. Despite the visual spectacle characteristic of Marvel productions, The Marvels seems to lack the narrative spark that has defined the studio's other films. The plot, described by some as that of a 1980s B-movie, feels dated and lacks the innovation and complexity expected today.
Moreover, the film's plot is riddled with plot holes and Deus Ex Machina, elements that can distract the audience and diminish immersion in the story. These narrative tropes, instead of contributing to the coherence of the plot, seem to be easy resources to solve complicated situations.
Amidst these criticisms, the character of Ms. Marvel emerges as a highlight that brings freshness to the film. Her presence brings relief amidst the general lack of dynamism and provides a glimpse of the vitality that sometimes seems to be lacking in other aspects of the narrative.
However, The Marvels is criticised for placing the entire narrative burden on female characters, relegating male characters to mere embellishments. While diversity and representation are valuable aspects of contemporary filmmaking, the imbalance can be perceived as forced and can affect the sense of cohesion in the Marvel universe.
The predictability of the plot also adds to the film's challenges. The audience's ability to anticipate plot twists and developments may detract from the impact and surprise, leaving the audience with a sense of having experienced a plot that has been seen before.
While there are criticisms, it is acknowledged that The Marvels has managed to significantly reduce the ridiculous humour that has sometimes characterised recent Marvel productions. This change can be positively received by those who prefer a more serious, action-focused tone.
A minor entry within the MCU.
Totally crap. Can't believe i went to the theatre for this.
the corporate greed monster has completely lost its way.
this movie and a few before is the death knell of the Marvel Universe and Disney.
I used to really like these movies but the quality of the writing, the really odd scenes, lazy casting and obvious mistakes just made this hard to watch.
It reminded me of a really bad, back of the drawer, straight to Netflix movie.
not worthy of your time, just utter garbage.
Good:
- The first fight scene, long take, good choreography and music. Which is probably the only memorable aspect of the movie
- The VFX shots were great, only the landing shots after they flew were bit jarring.
- Kamala Khan and the family dynamic
- The usual MCU jokes landed well except few like with Nick Fury
- The teases for the Young Avengers and X-Men were good
- The training montage scene was good but should’ve been longer. And the switching powers should’ve been more inconvenient.
- Overall, much more serious than I expected even with all the jokes that were sprinkled in. They really tried to make the audience care with the dramatic music and shots of suffering but didn’t really work. But still better than treating everything as a joke like in Thor Love and Thunder.
Bad:
- The final fight scene was rushed, filled with quick takes and close up shots that were uninteresting
- Monica and Kamala did some cool stuff and choreographed action with their powers but their origins were rushed. Kamala especially fights way better in the movie than the show and the movie is supposed to be right after the show so it doesn’t make that much sense.
- The actors tried but the multiple emotional scenes didn’t work, it was either rushed or we didn’t know the characters well enough because they just told instead of showing the conflict between Carol and Monica, which connects with the next issue. Kamala immediately forgives Carol, she should’ve been more affected by it since she always had an idealistic view of her
- The motivations of the villain were cliched and she wasn’t intimidating at all. Marvel is used to having anti heroes as villains or antagonists. Doesn’t mean they should be bad for no reason like the Kree in Captain Marvel.
- Questions: Why did the prince stop singing, why didn’t Kamala create a hard light barrier over the bangle, why did Monica have to close the barrier from the other side, and where was Saagar’s (elder brother) wife. Yeah nitpicks
- The musical scene and the cats were kind of cringy but funny as well. Glad the musical scene was short and that the characters didn’t take it seriously
- Valkyrie’s cameo was nice but again her and Carol’s relationship was just told to the audience instead of shown. Also why not ask help from Thor, dude’s chilling with Love who is also very powerful.
- Overall the movie was rushed, it was fight scene after the other with some forced jokes like in the climax. Curious about the scenes that were deleted. This movie should’ve been the third one, the ultimate team up, and my complaints about so much being rushed should’ve been addressed with the actual sequel.
Marvel really needs to slow down with the world ending threats, it gets rid of any stakes cause you know there’s going to be a happy ending. The conflict needs to be personal like with No way home, GOTG 3 and Loki S2
The movie was blah! Felt like one of those Netflix movies your throw on in the background when you're doing other things. Marvel franchise is tanking with all these new movies.
Dar-benn was the only interesting character in this whole movie.
OMG! The cat was must MARVELOUS, BABY!!! Hilarious!
Just look at all those cats!
The most fun and fancy free Marvel movie since the original Guardians of the Galaxy. I was worried, but the only reason you won't like this movie is if you think the MCU has to be dark and surrius all the time or are intimidated by leads that are not white and/or male.
Also, we got old (good) Fury back. They need to add "What If..." to the title of Secret Invasion and never discuss it again.
This was awesome. Quit being a bunch of joyless funhaters.
Multicrossoverlywannabeinteresting totallyforgettablebigbudgetgoodlookinggildedturd
(-) Singing!!
(-) out of place, bad music overall, nothing memorable or worth listening
This one is the first Marvel movie I didn't went to watch it at cinemas since the MCU began. And honestly I don't regret it. I still remember when 90% of Marvel products where fun, engaging and good content while the other 10% didn't met the requirements. Now, sadly, in the last couple of years those percetages reversed so hard that one cannot help to think "what went wrong?". The plot is extremely weak and the villain is not interesting enough, nor was her motives. The chemistry between "the marvels" also felt weird, which one will think is not an issue, but with 3 main protagonists, it is. Also, some scenes and sequences felt like "out of order" or had some very noticeable continuity errors. The CGI was decent (which, as I said, seeing a lot of the latest MCU contest, I guess its a win?). The only good thing were both the ending and post-credits scene; but I'm getting really tired of movies where the only thing that's worth pracing are this inter-universe hooks. I really hope that Disney and Marvel can turn the ship around and return to the glory that the MCU was on Phases 1-3; but as things are looking for and if they keep it like that, they will have to termine the MCU to cut loses
The Flerken rocks big time!!
This movie just needed a lot more time in the oven. The script is paper-thin and the character building completely absent, especially for the villain Dar-Benn. What might have shocked me the most were some of the movie sets they build and used. Some of them looked like sets from the old Power Rangers show and that's not a good thing in 2024 :sweat_smile:. The movie made me wonder if they have a thing like 'quality control' at Disney.
!!!!!!!!!SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!
8/10
Really fun movie, the singing people were a bit weird. For the rest is was funny and good. Acting started really poor but in the end it got better. The movie itself gets an 7 but because of the end credit scene with beast!!
As a die hard Marvel fan, I am thoroughly disappointed. This had tons of potential and they just had no idea what to do with it! Brie carried the movie, but what bothered me was her expression, it was one face all movie long.
I honestly cannot believe, someone paid to see that "movie".
I don't get the hate for this, it was fun. Could the villian have been a little better fleshed out? absolutely, but I laughed out loud at several parts and didn't regret watching it in the slightest. It's just a fun, popcorn movie.
Makes a great TV movie without the commercials. This was a bit entertaining, with predictable results. The Marvels definitely is not a movie that is blockbuster-worthy. Disney could have left the whole princess/musical scene at the door, this wasn't High School Musical for the big screen. all and all.. 4.5/10
Annoying kid. A lack of storyline. Too many unesscessary scenes. A lack of any real character development.
Once again a Marvel movie/show starring Women get negative reviews for being boring, long, blah, etc., misc, and OMFG I am tired of it.
This movie had me laughing with quite a bit of the humor, as well as the Kamala fan-girling on Captain Marvel like one would expect. This movie had heart, it had accountability, ownership, humor and quite frankly it was fun (not to mention the first MOVIE to truly incorporate a Marvel show into the universe, rather than cameo or referencing it).
Ms. Marvel was short changed in her series, and I hope that we get to see more of her now that her character has this tie-in; and if we don't get something more with Teyonah Parris as Monica Rambeau, I am calling BS on Marvel Studios.
I'd like to say that I'm surprised by the hate for this film, but it's so blatantly obvious, it smacks you right in the face. The problem here is not film itself. It's a wonderfully directed piece by Nia DaCosta, who kept the tone fun and light-hearted and created a film that didn't take itself too seriously. The three leads had great chemistry together. I think that Iman Vellani is a tremendous talent and has a bright future ahead of her. The hate for this film derived from the fact this it was a woman-forward film, and not just women but women of color. And, many of the co-stars of this film were people of color, as well. White, Marvel fanboys don't tolerate women or people of color at all, and it's been shown not only in the Marvel Universe but in other films, as well. Women-centric films, and films depicting stories involving people of color, receive low ratings and poor reviews from many members of the public. It's undeserved, and it stifles creative outlets for anyone who isn't white, Christian, heterosexual, and cisgender male.
marvel universe survived by BLADE... and got ended by THE MARVELS .
so disappointing.
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I still think Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania is the worst Marvel movie but this comes in second place. Technically a 4/10 but I had a bit of fun so it gets a 5/10. The after credit scene setting up the setup to the next setup is arguably better than the entire movie.
Almost a complete failure. It’s a Frankstein movie; this has obviously been hacked to pieces and reassembled in a way where it doesn’t resemble whatever it was once supposed to be. The editing of this movie is a nightmare, because not only is the story incoherent and rushed, but even the action is quite hard to follow due to the film’s central gimmick. The dialogue’s as cringe as expected from Marvel nowadays, with every attempt at comedy falling flat and tons of boring expository scenes. I don’t understand why the most interesting character beats are placed before the timeframe of this film (e.g. the destruction of Hala by Karol ), because nobody in this movie has a real fleshed out arc. Why not open your movie with that scene as it’d build naturally from where the first movie left off? That’s not to say that it doesn’t entirely try, because there are a few artistic swings in here, but those moments feel like they come from a different film. Instead, this movie’s only real merit comes from the baseline of quality you can expect from a production of this magnitude, so the costumes and production design are generally quite good. Visually it’s extremely inconsistent though. I can tell there’s someone with a good eye behind this, but so much of it looks plastic, unfinished and/or poorly lit. Overall, I’d argue this is the worst Marvel Studios film so far. Maybe it’s not quite as annoying as Love and Thunder, but this is just really a depressing, mind numbing watch.
2.5/10
meh meh meh meh meh. This movie sucks! Don't waste your time on this garbage. Good god I can't endure another one of these!
I found the constant switching to be obnoxious!
If only Kamala would have kept falling from the sky to her death. I found myself wanting to punch her in the face every time her mouth opened. "Twinsies?" STFU you tool.
Not nearly as good as the first one
Nice easy movie to watch. Nothing fantastic, some good CGI scenes. Love the cat's.
Reminder, watch after some of the credits and see what could be up next. X Men? :thinking:
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The haters are going to hate this movie. Mostly because they just default to hating Captain Marvel and Ms Marvel. Come in just looking for things to hate. But this movie is a LOT of fun. Go in in a light hearted mood. Numerous things had me laughing out loud in the cinema.
The end could have been wrapped up a bit faster.
And OMFG THE MID-CREDITS SCENE!!! OMGOMGOMOGOD!!! (there is no post-credits scene).