A friend of mine gave an 8. I give a 7 because the fights were too weak. You should have made this Lady Panther fight harder.
Great tribute to Mister Boseman :heart:
Heart Ache and Heart Break. Surreal acting, punchy action, witty jokes, and mind blowing cgi. I didn't think they could make a number 2 not a disappointment to number 1 but they did.
Nice, finally another good MCU movie! I'm a huge Marvel fan but for me the MCU collapsed after Endgame and I didn't really like the previous three MCU movies (rated all of them 6/10... :o). I had high expectations for this movie, as I really loved the first Black Panther movie, but I was also really skeptic (due to the previous three MCU movies).
Anyway, I always loved Shuri - both as a character and the actress. When Chadwick Boseman died (RIP, may he be gone but not forgotten and may death not be final) I therefore immediately hoped that Shuri will fill his role and become the next Black Panther. It seemed like a likely option until Letitia Wright almost got herself cancelled (that was so unnecessary... :o I think I get why but she should've thought more about it and should've done some research before spreading misinformation - I guess she also lacked a good team and wasn't surrounded by the best people). Anyway, I hope that incident is resolved by now and that she can keep playing a major role in Black Panther!
Rating this movie is quite difficult for me... I really loved the first half (10/10) but then I got annoyed by the unnecessary war (I get why but it's so frustrating!) and it sucked that Shuri got so broken that she sought vengeance! I'd rate this between 8.5 and 9.5 out of 10.
For a number of reasons, Letitia Wright was an incredibly poor choice to step into the role of the Black Panther. Both Lupita Nyong'o and Danai Gurira were much more deserving. In fact, I don't think that they even needed to name a successor in this film, but they did, and they chose poorly.
It's impressive how this was a 162 minutes long movie, but it didn't felt tiring to me. The combat scenes are really beautiful, the deep ocean is incredibly pretty (even though I felt a little bit disappointed we didn't get to know much about their society), the acting is great and writing is awesome as well.
The way Namor is portrayed here impressed me, it's different from other villains in MCU, and I like it. I just felt it a bit dry for the third act from him (and his society in general). Again, a missed opportunity to show more about them.
Loved the movie overall, one of the best sequels done by Marvel.
They made a sequel to Black Panther ??
I'm sorry, but what happened to these characters? Just dull. World building alone doesn't make a movie. Rewatch the first movie and give this a pass.
Not as good as the original (which is hard to do anyway), but still very, very good. My sole complaint is that many parts of it had the same alleged problem as the last episode of Game of Thrones, i.e., too physically dark to be able to see what was happening. Beyond that the music and visuals were amazing, the pacing was excellent, and the whole thing flowed remarkably well around the absence of Chadwick Boseman (RIP). I really loved a lot of the little details with Namor, and I hope fans of Hermes in all media types were taking notes, because the ankle wings were realistic and the cool fast skating moves for him to build up speed were inspired.
Those complaining about the writing and side characters, did you watch the same movie as me? I rate movies based on how engaged I am with them (so, am I dicking around on my phone at the same time or am I just watching the movie), and apart from looking a couple of things up during, I was fully focused on the movie, despite its length. (It didn't feel like almost three hours, either.) It seems like many people went into this burnt out on Marvel, or perhaps suffering from that trendy affliction of "let's hate on Marvel because other people like it".
the movie wasn't annoying ,it just was meh. the war between wakanda and namor's people was... stupid ,but every war is stupid so idk. the movie was like that : " when two fight, the third wins"
the tribute for T'Challa was ok,but i wasn't feeling bad for the character. i was feeling bad for the actor , because he played the character the best as he could
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever offers a more emotionally driven narrative compared to its prequel as the movie centers around Shuri and her struggle with grief. I enjoyed Shuri's character arc although it felt mildly cliché and the resolution, in regards to her conflict with Namor, was rather predictable. The movie's pitfall, however, was the plot. The introduction of new characters—Namor and Riri Williams—and an entirely new civilization (as well as their conflict with Wakanda and the rest of the world) was an obvious attempt to advance the overall MCU timeline in a somewhat forceful manner. All of this detracted from the originality of the film itself, and I believe there was much greater potential in a more character-driven movie. Still, I will applaud Marvel for handling Chadwick Boseman's death honorably.
Another marvel movie lots of visuals pretty decent story
The Wakanda Movies are the Jar Jar Binks of the Marvel Universe.
Absolutely amazing :clap: I cried more times than I'm willing to admit during this movie. May he rest in peace, in both worlds :heart: The MCU has been getting a bit out of hand in my opinion but this brought it back down for me. I was hanging on the entire time. An easy 10.
EDIT: Also wtf is wrong with all the idiots complaining about racism in this movie?? I didn't see or hear anything wrong here. I don't get why everyone has to bring race into everything, it's stupid and pointless. If you're so bored with your life that you have to imagine problems where they don't exist, maybe consider going out and touching grass. Or find a hobby. I hear knitting is quite in this year.
Surprisingly the better alternative to Avatar 2
This is a tough one. It's not great, it's not bad, it's just somewhere in-between.
Ryan Coogler had a tough task to accomplish here and I think they did what they could given the circumstances. There were so many decisions to make regarding the tragic passing of Chadwick Boseman and working around a pandemic.
As far as paying tribute to Chadwick and T'Challa goes, I think the film did a beautiful job, especially in the opening scene and the mid-credit one that let his legacy live on. I also fully understand the decision not to recast the character. I think it was the most tasteful way to handle the situation. In-universe, passing the torch to T'Challa's son one day also seems like a fitting idea.
Taking a look at the rest of the movie however, it's a mess and way too long for its own good.
Personal feelings about Letitia Wright and her views regarding the pandemic aside, I don't think Shuri should've become the next Black Panther and she doesn't work as a main character at all. While her conflict was played well, it was also very one note in the writing. Not once did the story or character (even before that) indicate any interest to become the Black Panther. If anything her storyline was more or less if she can recreate the flower to even make a new Panther possible, not to take up that mantle. Shuri is not a warrior, but a scientist. Sure, she can hold her own in a battle, but if all her appearances within the MCU indicated something, then that she works best as a scientist leaving the fighting to others. She's a badass in her own field, leave it at that. Her arc would've worked just as well by coming to terms that Wakanda needs a new Panther and that she doesn't betray her brother's legacy by helping to create one. As far as candidates go, I think it should've been Nakia or Okoye, because it would've fitted their storylines so much better. M'Baku maybe as well, though I'm fine with him becoming King instead.
The movie also unfortunately decided to sideline all the wrong characters. I don't think Shuri works as the sole protagonist, even if that is an unpopular opinion here. Some characters just function better in a supporting role. Again, I think focusing on Nakia or Okoye would've benefitted the movie more. M'Baku, while having some of my favorite moments in the film, also finally deserved his time to shine.
I appreciated the short return of Michael B. Jordan, because he is fantastic, though even that cameo felt shoehorned in.
Angela Bassett gave a very strong performance and was clearly a standout in the movie. I think Queen Ramonda's death however was absolutely pointless and unnecessary and she was just used as a prop for Shuri, something that could've been done differently in so many ways. Especially since she sacrificed herself for a character neither she or the audience have had any connection at this point.
Speaking of, I like Right Williams. I like Dominique Thorne's portrayal. I don't think she should've been introduced in this movie. There was no point in her being the scientist to figure out a way to find vibranium. If anything it felt a tad ridiculous, especially since even if Namor managed to kill her, the government already used her technology and knew about it, so that whole plot was flimsy at best. It also feels weird to introduce Iron Heart without even mentioning Tony Stark, but that's probably the MCU continuing to shit on its OG character (within the movie-verse I mean).
Namor started out as an interesting villain, with at least some sympathetic motivation until he went full out "let's conquer the surface world" without a warning. He also was basically there for lots of exposition. The movie was full of that. So. Much. Exposition.
I always enjoy Martin Freeman as Everett Ross, but a cameo in the beginning would've done that. The whole side plot with his ex-wife could've been cut and nothing would've been missing from the film.
The cinematography was beautiful and the CGI was better than in the first film, but got gradually worse as the movie progressed. The fight choreography was okay-ish but not very innovative.
In the end, I think they tried very hard to work around the incredible loss they suffered and I respect that. I wish they would've taken more time to work on the script though. There's a good movie hiding somewhere inside of this jumbled mess, but unfortunately it spends most of its time running around and chasing a red line. It is still better than a lot of other films the MCU has put out there in recent years, easily superior to the likes of Multiverse of Madness or Thor: Love & Thunder but still far from the greatness it could've been.
I thought this was incredibly boring. I'm going to assume that Chadwick Boseman's unfortunate passing threw the plans for this film into chaos, and they were unable to fully recover from it. Because, well, this was dull as hell. The only interesting part was Michael B. Jordan's appearance.
It absolutely did not need to be this long, either. Didn't justify its length.
Marvel movies are in a big downwards spiral. I got disappointed again.
In the comics, Namor is known as being the world's first mutant, his mutant ability being the wings on his ankles that enable him to fly. He also refers to himself as a mutant in this movie, making it the first mention of mutants in the MCU.
Is it Wakands Vs. Avatar?
Bit of a weird movie to introduce Atlantis
This was too long... They could've made it shorter and Wakanda stronger. but also Chadwick Boseman r.i.p.
So let me start by saying I like marvel films, I liked the first black panther but didn't feel it was as good a film as credit was given. Some great characters like killmonger but not a patch on Thor Ragnarok so I can't say I was desperate for this one. Regardless of that I was keen to see this after the initial reviews but having now sat through it I honestly can't find anything about the film which makes it half decent. It's a whole lot of nothing story based around tributes (which I have no problem with) and poor matrix style slow motion action sequences which are over done and board line cheap. The film falls into the recent trend of being a whole lot of film about nothing, I'm personally calling this phase the Snap! Hoping for more with Ant-man as Marvel has started to become the emperors clothes.
Utter rubbish from stay to finish, really thought this was the beginning of the end for Marvel
You know what's worse than a movie with a stupid made up language that forces you to constantly read the subtitles? A movie with two of them! Way to go, Marvel. We went from "everybody, in every planet, happens to speak in English", to no-fricking-body does.
Also, pretty dumb story even by Marvel standards. And for the first time in a MCU movie, painfully boring. So...
Really time to pick a new guy who can pull off this part! Not that I am against women in action but come on….
What a remarkable insignificant movie. I'll not waste time writing a long review, it's not worth it.
I have to admit that I was quite a bit hesitant about this movie. I feared this was one movie where the woke intellectual midgets of Hollywood would go overboard with their nonsense.
Luckily, the movie was more or less free of such rubbish except for maybe the lame “joke” at the end of the movie. If you are one of the woke intellectual midgets watching the movie I am sure you could find some contrived way of construing some message out of it but normal people will probably find it rather woke free.
Overall it was a pretty decent movie actually. Lot and lots of special effects and action of course and, as with Black Adams that I just reviewed, that is the main reason to watch this movie.
Unlike Black Adams, the story as a hole has more Hollywood nonsense in it though. It is good enough to propel the movie from start to finish but that is all.
The main plot of the movie is unfortunately one of those nonsensical bits. Not even a kid (actually she is not really a kid but an adult) having the misfortune of attending one of those depraved grooming and indoctrination institutes they call schools today would be stupid enough to hand over a detector that would put their African home nation in such grave danger.
Then there was that illogical rant from the Queen where she, in a emotional fit, fired her best (only) General. The cognitively impaired sock puppet might do a thing like that but not a real regent.
The part with the French in the UN was also utter rubbish. That was to please the Chinese, who are the ones that would actually do what the movie claimed the French were doing, and nothing else.
Anyway, it is still a decent movie. Certainly a lot better than quite a few Marvel/DC movies that Hollywood has produced over the last couple of years. The special effects are very nice and most of the action is quite cool.
I am somewhat concerned that they picked that rather non-charismatic and overly emotional woman to become the next Black Panther though. After all, she could have re-created the magic flower a lot earlier but instead she let her stubbornness and emotions stand in the way. Not exactly qualities you would want in the Black Panther.
inferior and watered-down version of the original black panther. can't recommend it.
I can’t be the only one who thinks this is actually decent lol (buff from all the other crappy phase 4 movies??)
All that’s left for marvel to me now really is just nostalgia and any remaining attachment for the characters.
Liked the music a lot.
Marvel going downhill that's for sure
Solid movie. Definitely not without it's problems, and it could have been tightened up in the editing, but overall one of the more decent MCU entries lately.
[Disney+] As visually tacky as its predecessor, it manages to be even duller by developing a bland story. Perhaps due to a relatively good acceptance of the previous one, Ryan Coogler wants to mix social commentary (with a notable lack of knowledge of Latino culture) with conventional plots for undemanding followers of the MCU. It shamelessly copies designs from "Avatar" (2009), but the action scenes appear taken from the Japanese Tokusatsu movies of the seventies, especially in the mediocrity of CGI.
So for what reason is this nominated for an Oscar except Boseman and its 97% non-white cast? Because this movie is bad even compared with just other movies in the MCU universe. Boring story that goes on for an hour to long.
If this wins, the Oscar's as a measurement for good film making is dead.
Namor and his kingdom is definitely one of the best things the MCU has brought to the big screen!
This was one the the worst movies I have ever seen. So many chaotic cuts, stupid plot, terrible cgi, poor dialogues, music out ot place... I cannot find any entertaining aspect in this movie. I am glad that I didnt watch it in cimena, but waited for D+,
I really don't understand why there are so many people who, watching the sequel to a film, always expect it to be episode 2. This film is a tribute to pride, to the millennial history of African and South American peoples, harassed, plundered and exploited for centuries by Europeans and North Americans. An alliance for a more just world. This is it.
OMG !! It'd have been better not do this 2nd part. Horrible movie, I managed to watch it through the end, but it is really bad.
I Don’t even know how I colud finish it, what a waste of time
90Utter drivel. When your 12yo gets so bored of the film that he'd sooner go and dig planting holes in the garden for his mum, it tells you all you need to know. He got more enjoyment from the 5m Pitch Meeting of this film than he did the film.
Also, why do Disney insist on trying to make us believe that 7st women can win fights with 13st+ men? Can't help feeling this will backfire in real life somewhere. Also, why is it OK for British/American black actors to affect 'generic African' accents?
Boooooring, what a shit movie. Two hours too long... But logical with this lousy script, easily worst MCU movie so far. And now the woke diversity should not count? Pathetic, hypocrite and racist. Hope this stupid misery will end soon in Hollywood.
The CGI is next level. There's times you forget that so throughout the movie and it's really mind blowing. As far as the movie goes, the movie follows the prequels plot layout pretty close. Making for a slight "copy and paste" feel. Overall, it's an ok movie. Visually fun to watch.
NOT A MUST SEE BUT WELL WORTH THE WATCH
Weak sauce. Too long for no particular reason. Too many "colonialist" jokes, the expected LGBTQ characters, and the all black/female good protagonists,. This reverse racism/gender bias is no better than the original. You got to expect that from most Netflix/Disney productions lately.
Watchable but not recommended..
They overdid it with the female heroes in this one for my taste
It's taken me a while to watch this one. I lost someone very dear to me around the time it was released and knew it would be a film that dealt with grief. Even now after 4 months it definitely struck a chord with me and brought plenty of tears.
Overall it was a decent film, definitely lulled in the middle and I fought to keep attention on it. The final portion made up for it though. Great action and a showdown that had me screaming for Shuri to take her vengeance.
Wonderful homage for Chadwick and T'challa.
My biggest complaint is that we got Lake Bell of all people and they killed her off! Poison Ivy herself with the most wonderful of sultry voices :hearts: Stay safe in DC land. :hearts:
Put of 10 this movie is 7.8
I might just be burnt out on superhero films... This was a slog to get through. It seems like half the movie was unnecessary and bolted on for...reasons? There's no reason this needed to be almost 3 hours with the very basic plot we follow. There a multiple characters who are just...here. And the action was fine but really nothing amazing. I really hate how bored and disinterested I was through a lot of this film...
Terrible acting, the plot was nonsense, the dialogue was cringe, and the movie was way too long.
I did not like the movie. Plot was so generic,. At the end, like what was the point of the antagonist. Character arc was generic and weak.
Acting was weak.
Visuals were ok, but on lazy side.
Styling was bad (from hair, to wardrobe e.g the supersized ugly LV sunglasses. Was it product placement?)
Are you telling me there's no actual post-credit scene in this one?
When we see past the homage to Chadwick Boseman, we realize that this was the only think strumming on our heart strings. This movie is flawed beyond measure and it is really not that good.
Well this one definitely surpasses the first one, not amazing tho but I enjoyed it more and all cast did well and the action was fun and did alright job on the marvel comic character namor.
It seems like they deleted some scenes with Martin Freeman. Or it feels like it. The accents are more understandable than in the original Black Panther, so that's nice.
Long movie but it was actually pretty good, the writing was good and I liked the soundtrack a lot
The setup was interesting, but then this movie started to get bogged down by action and the usual revenge vs doing the right thing-stuff. And let's face it: They could have easily cut Riri (some kind of female Tony Stark, Peter Parker prodigal), Ross and that creepy ex-wife of his, and not have had to change the movie one bit. And that AI? Why does Shuri all of a sudden need an AI? An AI which is infinitely less developed than Jarvis or Friday, mind you?
I wonder if anyone who swallows that blue flower juice develops powers akin to the Black Panther - if so, why don't they give that juice to the Dora? And who chose Shuri to drink it in the first place? Just because she's T'Challa's sister? Not sure but I saw quite a few women more worthy of the title Black Panther even without being juiced up, in this movie (Ramonda, Nakia, Okoye...).
And while I liked the mid-credits scene... I have to admit I hate those cop-outs: the hero dies, but doesn't really because he lives on in his love-child. It's too much of a cliché. Albeit in this case, it's born out of necessity due to Boseman's passing, not because the writers chose to let their hero die (but not die). That's why I was actually moved by this scene despite the cliché.
But the thing that still sticks with me is the Wakandan arrogance. I mean they were lucky the meteor landed in their territory in the first place... and they choose to keep it secret, keep themselves hidden... while all around them their neighbours fall to "white conquerors"... Not sure, but I don't think they have much of a leg to stand on looking down upon said white conquerors. Not sure that standing by and doing nothing when they could interfere is so much better. And still keeping the vibranium for themselves out of fear that others could build weapons with it? Ahem... don't they have vibranium-based weapons themselves? Again, not much of a leg to stand on.
Anyway, let's see what happens next with Shuri as Black Panther, M'Baku presumable king, Namor biding his time... and a possible future king T'Challa growing up in secret. I can only hope the result will be better than this movie.
I don’t get how this movie got a 7.1. A lot of cgi 2,5 hours. Should more like 90 minutes. Watched small parts doing other stuff. Didnt miss a thing.
This movie is further proof of how crappy Marvel is. The fact that it has a score of 71 on here, shows how many trakt users don't know a thing about movies.
Female superheroes will never be as cool as male superheroes! Stop trying liberal Hollywood!
It was a nice eulogy for Chadwick Boseman, but the movie was way too long (2 h 40 min). They could have cut out a whole hour. Nevertheless, this part is better than the predecessor
I found the film quite offensive. The past few years people have become more diverse, living in a multicultural society. Yet the Wakanda country is only inhabited by African people. I expected better of Disney and I hope they embrace diversity with the next Marvel films.
What a waste of time…
The first half wasn't so great, second half was amazing, it was as good as the first movie but in a different way, this was a very touching story, and a good tribute to Chadwick RIP.
Another meaningless Marvel crap film
I love Marvel movies and the MCU but my review of this movie is just three letters…MEH.
snooze fest imo. def am tired of marvel movies.
Really did not enjoy this one. The overly long run time certainly didn't help things. I thought the movie was boring, the action was subpar, and I didn't care for almost all of the characters or the main plot.
Another marvel plot storyline with just just different race. This is what generalized audience catering causes. Some good storytelling require different tones. You can't just keep shit PG13.
How could just all the fight scenes be spearing,sword stabbing, maiming, flinging each other and Still No BLOOD!!!!. Ridiculous!!
Major issues with this movie for me personally are:
1. Revenge seems to be viewed as an alien thing (in marvel generally) but it affects this movie so much it makes pointless!. The premise is intriguing at first but is butchered poorly. How does killing a monarch just seems to be brushed off especially by the daughter, mind I say, that she lost all of her family members.
2. Characters giving the vibe "I'll kill them all" but you know it's bullshit and that at the end they'll be like "I'm better, violence is not the answer or some bs or something along the line,"she/he wouldn't want me doing that". At this point, it's getting tiring. ( I thought we'd left that for Mr America)
3. The unreasonable tactics of Namor regarding the surface. How does one that millions years old plan egregiously about war strategies. You'd assume he's got his shit together but no he's like you join or I'm attacking you!?!
4. MCs ( all of MCU) mainly villains are watered down and their POV is made pointless just to make the heroes cool and pacifist. Come on!!!! you don't think someone wouldn't hesitate killing someone who brutally murdered your mother cause he can.
5. Portending disaster but just delivering pep talk at the end. In this case, using killmonger just Ms no combats pat the supposed villain on the back at the end.
This point is about MCU generally --- I get it you want to keep characters for future projects but come on stop these repetitive, it makes the plots pointless. I know character building isn't your thing Marvel at least try on some level.
Good things that earned the 5 stars from me are;
Chadwick Boseman tribute and the incorporation of the actors grief for their fellow colleague.
This is it. This is the end. The formula has been exhausted, and even though there is a decent tribute to the late Chadwick Boseman in here, the rest is such a paint-by-numbers Marvel affair that the runtime is a bigger antagonist than Namor. What a boring, slog of a movie who's sole purpose is to introduce the next roster of characters for even more TV shows and movies which are sure to be stuck to the same formula.
I think it's time to slowly wind down this universe and maybe think about the less is more approach. Fewer entries with a bigger spacing between entries could do the world of good for this dying machine of cinema.
Marvel has made an effort to adapt its next story to the unfortunate loss of actor Chadwick Boseman, to whom a heartfelt tribute is also made in the film, which is to be welcomed. But, unfortunately, it is not at all solid and, although the intention is good in the inclusion of the new member of the Marvel multiverse, the final result is a mixture of lime and sand that does not end up convincing.
The whole backstory of Talokan and its inhabitants is a delight to look at, and an excellent way to introduce a new setting. However, the actor Tenoch Huerta does not measure up, either acting or physically (one would expect the character he plays to be a physical and intellectual prodigy, but he is neither). The scales of power are also inadequately established.
Technically, too, there is a drop in quality. The new Wakandan trump card is a B-movie horror, and some scenes are crude and poorly done. And the soundtrack is not particularly striking.
Idea Factory diehards will enjoy it, but those who write Marvel in smaller letters will suffer from an overlong running time and a sluggish mid-film narrative that loses most of the interest.
I enjoyed the sequel more than the first movie. I found the first movie was also good but it came with a lot of hype and high expectations.
The sequel had more time to explore the different storylines. The bad guy's motivation was clear and easy to empathise with. He wasn't the bad guy because just because he's a one dimension evil villain.
I truly appreciated the tributes to Chadwick, and the fight scenes were typically Marvel. But other than that, it was stupid.
Also really not a fan of the new Iron Man’s suit.
This just felt like a (poorly done) filler movie with the sole purpose of just introducing new characters.
Too long, too boring, too silly.
40 minutes and bored like hell.
Very long movie, unnecessary,two hours top
I'm not crying. You're just blurry.
The first Black Panther is my least favourite MCU movie so I didn't hope for much but this was so good. I love Shuri as the new BP.
I rather enjoyed it. The lower ratings and poor reviews it received are due to this film being very non-marvel: there's no main superhero, no villain, and the story resolves differently than all other Marvel films. Some lazy writing and clearly running out of ideas at some points, but if it were a standalone title and not a part of franchise, it could easily score 8.5 or more.
it was a nice tribute to Chadwick Boseman. Very classy.
Namor's character felt a bit odd, but it was well cast and well acted.
Shuri as the Panther didn't quite feel like the same level as T'Challa. I get that she's new at this, but I thought that she'd be more durable. Particularly while wearing the suit.
I really wish that the AI was in the previous shows like Jarvis was. And that he had more personality, like Jarvis and Friday.
Straightforward story and some lazy (Namor origins), macguffin ("mutant") writing saved by top-notch acting.
PS: RIP Chadwick Boseman.
I didn't expect to enjoy this one as much as I did. Action packed with heart. Great set pieces and performances abound. Well worth your time. 7.7
It had it’s moments… not that much, but some.
While Namor was cool, the „new Black Panther“ disappointed.
Tbh, I don’t really know where to put that movie…
Let me start by saying this. It is clear that this film faced many challenges, including the loss of Chadwick Boseman, who brought so much depth and nuance to the role of T'challa. Despite this, the film attempted to continue the story of Wakanda and introduce new elements to the franchise, including the Atlantians. Unfortunately, the depiction of this new civilization was lackluster and lacked the unique cultural and historical elements that could have made them a compelling addition to the film. The costumes were also a disappointment, with designs that were reminiscent of low budget productions and failed to capture the vibrant and imaginative world of Wakanda.
The soundtrack throughout the movie was overpowering and detracted from the film's overall atmosphere. It seemed more suited to a trailer than to a blockbuster film, and it failed to add depth or emotional nuance to the story. The plot was unsatisfying, with a lack of coherence and focus, and the acting was subpar, with performances that felt artificial and lacked the conviction necessary to bring the story to life.
The film attempted to handle multiple themes, including the mourning of T'challa, the death of Chadwick Boseman, and the introduction of new characters, but ultimately it failed to execute any of these elements well. The mourning of T'challa seemed fake and lacked the emotional depth necessary to pay homage to the late actor and character. The death of Chadwick Boseman was handled poorly, and the introduction of new characters was boring and failed to capture the audience's imagination.
In conclusion, "Black Panther 2" is a disappointment that fails to live up to the legacy of the original film and Chadwick Boseman. Despite its best efforts, the film was overloaded with too many themes and failed to execute any of them well. The soundtrack, costumes, and acting were all subpar, and the plot was unsatisfying. For these reasons, I would not recommend this film to fans of the original or to anyone looking for a compelling and well-crafted cinematic experience.
A beautiful movie that is dedicated to the loss of such an amazing actor and human. The movie does a great job of showing how much emotion and thought was put into this, and it is able to craft such an amazing movie that respects what came before it.
It must have been extremely difficult making this without Boseman. That must have been tough on the crew and actors.
I thought they could have done a better job with T’challa’s death but I understand why they approached it like that.
It was much too long though. The last hour and bit picked up, but overall it seemed more DC and less Marvel.
That said, it was sad watching the intro and the ending, but it feels like closure and a nice transitional movie towards the next generation of BP movies.
Namor was the best part of this movie. They def did the character justice. Everything else fell super flat. And sadly Ryan fell victim to the first movie where the third act fell apart and was awful in every way. The worst part was the costume design and cgi. Iron heart and the black panther suit looked so fake and bad. Really hoping pulls out of this generic cookie cutter crap with phase 4
Much like the first black panther movie, it was meh not that great.
What I don't get, is why some people claimed racism over avatar using blue people who were acting like African tribes. But making Latin Americans blue and doing the same thing, isn't racist.
:heart:x8
This was a wonderful tribute to Boseman. It was also nice to see Letitia as the Black Panther. Hopefully she will remain so as well. There were a lot of fun and cool action scenes as well.
How I rate:
1-3 :heart: = seriously! don't waste your time
4-6 :heart: = you may or may not enjoy this
7-8 :heart: = I expect you will like this too
9-10 :heart: = movies and TV shows I really love!
Chadwick Bosesman and the character of T'Challa may be absent from this sequel but their spirits live on throughout the threads of this emotional but still thrilling story. It's a fitting tribute to two great men and the beginning of something new as the Black Panther lives on.
what a pile of racist fascist nazi black woke ideology! Basically the movie is about "all races are good except for the white one"!
Absolutely disgusting! Hitler wouldn't have dreamed of being so racist.
Worst Marvel movie to date.... Filled to the brim with leftist ideologi and disgusting hate for everything non-woke. Only good thing is the amazing Angela Basset.
Story of an underwhelming conflict between two nations. Not as mystical or culturally significant as expected. Angela Bassett's performance dominated by far.
What a waste of time. Two hours and forty two minutes? Were they too lazy to edit this? I mean, it felt like Wakanda was going, Forever, literally. :rofl:
The best part of this movie were the first scenes farewelling Chadwick Boseman. That was pure class. It's all downhill from there.
Utterly boring. I disliked Aquaman but at least Mamoa has some charisma, this just had more bland underwater sequences with Namor being dull, boring and lifeless. And the rest of the movie was mostly people just talking and being miserable
Just more of we wuz kangz n shieet garbage. Now with the addition of flying mexikangz now. Soy fueled idiots will still consoom product.
The movie was 2 hours too long. Didn’t need half the BS in the movie. Very weak writing. It seemed like they hired writers from The CW network.
A more appropriate title for this movie: Black Panther Wokeness Forever
Chadwick Boseman is undeniably missed, but 'Black Panther: Wakanda Forever' still manages to produce an entertaining and even touching final chapter of the MCU's Phase Four.
I had a positive time with this, one good thing about watching it almost two months after release is that I got to watch this in an empty cinema - absolute bliss. Thankfully I managed to avoid all spoilers, though had heard the name Namor bandied about online so that's all I knew coming into it.
Speaking of Namor, I'm a fan. He makes for a cool new character to the universe, as does Talokan as a whole, with Tenoch Huerta a welcomed addition to the cast - first time I recall seeing him in something, and I'm impressed. The star of this 2022 flick, however, is Letitia Wright. I don't really remember her standing out in the original much, at least to me, but here Wright is excellent.
Angela Bassett is very good also, there's one emotion-filled speech scene in particular that stands out in my memory. Danai Gurira is always a joy to watch, while Winston Duke and Lupita Nyong'o are the best of the rest - though, the whole cast are good; even Martin Freeman, who I'm not always convinced by.
The film handles Boseman's absence nicely, there are some very touching moments in there. I'd say they went the correct way with the character of T'Challa, no-one would've been able to even closely replicate Boseman. The music, meanwhile, is pleasant.
I do think this has some relatively minor pacing issues, mainly around the midway point, but other than that I felt more than satisified with what I had just watched when leaving the cinema. Phase Five, see you soon!
"To everyone, he was a king. But to me, he was everything."
What a hard task to achieve. This movie starts off with some hard beats and the theater was definitely sniffling in unison, and all it kept reminding me of is that Chadwick Boseman is no longer with us. There are some moments that could've been shorter, and you can tell they had to rewrite a bunch of things, but this movie was necessary and I look forward to seeing what happens next in Wakanda.
A cross between Aquaman, Avatar and Greek mythology... are the writers running out of ideas? ;)
You really feel the heart and care put into this movie. And the parts I like are good enough to make the not-so-good ones almost inconsequential. It has a lot of Marvel's bombastic elements, but it balances that with the softer, more heartfelt journey of the different characters. Congrats to everyone involved for honoring Chadwick's memory in such a beautiful way.
Not even too bad in terms of plot development, though the ending was the usual thin ending of many Marvel movies. The big issues is that most of the background elements and plot twists were extremely forced and unnatural. It was not heavy, but half an hour less would have made it a smoother film.
Shout by Dann MichalskiBlockedParent2024-05-24T18:00:03Z
Perhaps the worst film in the MCU, Black Panther: Wakanda Forever is a convoluted mess. The plot is kind of all over the place, but the main story follow a race of sea people attempting to force Wakanda to join them in their genocidal plans to destroy all the nations of the world. The writers do a good job at addressing the loss of Chadwick Boseman and working it into the plot, but that’s about all they do well. The villain is ridiculous, as is the manufactured conflict between the sea people and Wakanda, and the introduction of Ironheart comes off as forced. However, some of the action scenes are pretty exciting and there are a couple of interesting new ship and weapon designs. Black Panther: Wakanda Forever takes on too much and ends up doing it all poorly.