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The Creator 2023

Gareth Edwards is an excellent director but not an excellent writer. Please keep making original sci-fi movies, but for God's sake get better writers next time.

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Great movie! Somewhat reminded me of the Vietnam war. USA attacks uses its military power and murders innocents in Asia.

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I liked it. I liked the world, although I have a few drawbacks to the script

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I'm half tempted to give this full marks just for daring to play Radiohead's Everything in Its Right Place during your typical military in dropship scene. Anyway my boy Gareth knocked out another cracking piece of scifi. You really don't mind when a director takes a few years off and comes back with something like this. There's certainly a fair amount of Rogue One, Blade Runner and Terminator in the mix, the latter of which he takes the Judgement Day plot and turns it on its head defying expectations where I assumed it was going just due to the tropes of the genre.

There's also a lot of stuff on screen for 80mill in comparison to other recent effects heavy films. Gets you wondering if budgets elsewhere escalate to $200 mill mark due to talent demands or that something like this has less behind the scenes VFX artists but take longer to bake? I dunno. Either way, check it out. The trailer gives too much away (as always my opinion) however there's plenty more that isn't shown.

NB. Watch out for the Scarif Easter egg

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10/10 world building
3/10 writing

That last act was so atrocious it ruined the movie for me, was really enjoying the first half of the movie.

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This film does an incredible job showing life integrated with AI and robotics, and it does it emotionally and beautifully. While there’s certainly influences from many Sci-fi stories we already know, this movie depicts very real emotions caused and felt by the AI characters. The sound design was superb as well - with many of the impactful moments being completely silent instead of tormented with a soundtrack to tell you how to feel.

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Shout by mireiabragulat
BlockedParent2023-10-04T13:53:30Z— updated 2023-10-11T06:41:47Z

I was expecting so much more from the movie. Having such an interesting topic to treat, the story didn't say anything new. I give it a 5 because the visual effects were nicely done, and the image and actuation weren't bad. However I think it's a clear representation of how important are the scrip writers and it's a demonstration of their strike in Hollywood. The plot and argument didn't had any sense along the movie, and I could not understand why the characters behaved the way they do, as their dialogue is almost null.

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Trailer: "Ten years today an AI designed to protect us detonated a nuclear warhead in Los Angeles".
So, "The Terminator 7" ?

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Visually stunning. Stupendously absurd.

This movie is a love letter to AI written by a sixth grader. It's hard to express just how bad the writing is with its over use of stereotypes and clichés, but if you are still watching past to 90min mark you should get an award. It's an all out assault on your intelligence and ends up being nothing more than a popcorn movie with zero meaningful insights into actual AI.

I find it hard to imagine anyone with any sci-fi sensibilities getting any enjoyment out of this at all, but it sure is pretty to look at. Give it a go for a mindless couple of hours separated from any sense of reality, but don't expect anything more.

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The list of absurdities is very long, but these couple really stood out for me.
Joshua was obsessed with figuring out where "Dian Dang" was, but couldn't be bothered to speak it into his translator?
Robots have a readily accessible Standby switch? (Really?)

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"MovieGPT, Make an IMAX-friendly SF action blockbuster. Topics: whether AIs are people, US military imperialism. Use 40% Apocalypse Now, 30% Bladerunner, 20% Star Wars."

I can't deny it was visually impressive - just about enough I felt I got my money's worth. I am glad it had a little ambition and tried to introduce emotional motivations and complex topics. But since it botched both really badly and had sub-Bondian plot credibility, I would rather they had just concentrated on making big things blow up.

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the writing is so boring and most of the time it makes no sense
when shoting they have worse aim than star wars (HOW?!)

the CGI is good tho that's where all the budget went

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Let me just say that the movie is just stupid. Yes the setup is nice, yes the special effects are good, but the script is also just stupid and full of contradictions. Not going to spoil the shit out of it but

* A craft that has the ability to destroy everything and they are still chasing after everyone
* Missiles that drop of the sky, if the mothership stops
* No explanation about the Simulant found on the ship
* Incredible powerful ai loving people, only to be scared to hell by a ship on the sky who while on the sky can't seem to get rid of everyone not hiding and having developed big structures and prosperous cities

That is always in context that the movie takes itself seriously. No problem with stupid scripts when fun and otherwise don't take themselves seriously.

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I wanted this movie to be good so much! Unfortunately, it fell short. While visually stunning (minus the grainy filter), the story is predictable and dull. I struggled to care for the characters due to the confusing time jumps and abrupt transitions, making it a disappointment overall.

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I'm deducting One point for wokeness. One point for lack of script. One point for choosing this untalented protagonist only because he's black. One point for not making me care about ANY OF THEM if they live or die. One point for poor structure and storytelling. RATE : 5/10

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First I am not sure why trakt allows people to post without even seeing it. Fill up a full page just thinking about seeing it. :man_shrugging:

Okay, I did see it. I am a big sci fi junky so most movies I judge pretty easy and just enjoy. However the creator in my opinion was just all thrown together. Everyone talking about 80 million but who cares if the story is a mess. I like the actors but in the wrong movie. Many things I could say but why use a page for nothing.

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A new personal favorite of mine. Loved Washington’s performance— the storytelling, the cinematography, the complexities. An incredible watch.

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My goodness, I didn't expect this to be so sad.
Finally, a movie that mixes special effects with practical effects. It's a rare occurrence but this does that very well. Reminded me of terminator alot, but it did have its unique quality's like the design, some characters and world building.
Also, I want to know the 'Maya' word count because David really likes to shout names.

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Visuals and CGI were fantastic. Story was ok, but I couldn't get my head wrapped around why they were doing hand to hand combat one minute and them blowing up entire villages the very next.
Also, what's the purpose of child AI's when they supposedly don't age/grow up?
They eat, but plug themselves in at night to recharge - why?
Lot's of questions throughout the movie, but I still enjoyed it.
7.5/10

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The fighting scenes are off. The pacing is weird and some of the scenes feel rushed. I’m even more annoyed that the military actions don’t seem to make much sense: we’re attacking a base but we don’t do any recon up front despite having a huge drone in space, we’re sending in a single guy to do an extraction, we’re sending a walking robot instead of all the rockets. The world building is really cool, but for me I got distracted by how forced some of the innovations were that didn’t seem logical in many places

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Hollywood fluff. Feels like it was made by a committee. The same story you've read and seen before many times.

I don't even understand the point of the AIs? They're basically just humans with a robot bodies? Why are they made?

You even see "old lady" robots waddling up the mountain like they're fat and have arthritis. Again, I don't understand what purpose they serve, they seem just as fragile as human bodies.

They don't even seem smarter. They're basically just as stupid as people?

Edit: I almost forgot, there's AI monks. AI that choose to be tibetan monks, walking slowly and meditating. Again, WHAT'S THE POINT? WHY PROGRAM THIS TO EXIST?

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I enjoyed the movie. Great scenery and visual effects. The acting of the kid was very good. The plot wasn't surprising at first but the change of "heroes" caught my interest and kept me glued to the theater seat.

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Madeline Youna Voyles gives a really great performance in a visually stunning film somewhat let down by a clunky story that would have benefited from a tighter focus and shorter running time.

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With all the hype around AI and the advertisements of this movie I thought it would be a tech heads dream. Instead the AI robots are nothing more than humans with fancy spinney things in their ears. The focus is more on USA vs Asia instead of trying to battle advanced intelligence with higher capabilities from less reliability on earth's natural resources and built to perform at A higher rate. Instead these robots eat ice cream, have built in tear ducts to cry, and love the idea of religion and Asian fashion. Cgi was great, action scenes pretty good, but very poor ideas when we have more interesting AI stories happening in real life.

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I enjoyed this a lot more than I was expecting. Gave me real Blade Runner vibes.

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  • Pretty terrible film
  • Lots of promise: dystopian, characters, potential worldbuilding etc.
  • Ultimately made use of none of them
  • Didn't care about any of the characters...
  • "New China" was a perfect example of something never explained, felt added just to seem cool/deep in terms of lore
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Same like any other movie last year; you don't miss anything if you skip it. Good enough for a background noise if you plan to sleep through the afternoon movie.

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The idea and the concept was good also the world building , but because of that the realisation will be hard to follow .
althought i think that this kind of concept can be morelikely as show than a movie .

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WTF? Many years I didn't watch a movie with so many plot holes and one of the biggest "deus ex machina" that I've seen in a movie in the last decade.
Why does a simulant with a old man face walks as an old man? Where the candies and ice cream go to? Do they shave?
The role of the man in charge of us army is so ridiculous...

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The author of the script has ZERO knowledge of what IA is. And that's just the beginning of the problems, another is the lack of knowledge about robotics. This is in no way Sci-Fi (Science-Fiction), it's just fiction.

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It's been a long time since I've seen a movie with that many plot holes. I get that there was a certain path the director wanted to take, but there were so many people acting illogical and moronic.
It was so bad I couldn't wait for it to end.

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The trailer tricked me as usual.

This is the worst iteration of AI I have seen in movies. From the way they're portrayed to everything. There's no way humans get the upper hand like this in this scenario. The AIs were basically humans through and through even more so than the humans which is hilariously ridiculous.

Also, the main character was not it. I didn't even care what was happening to him from start to finish. Don't get me started on the young robot Child. For a character that the narrative revolves around the robot kid couldn't feel more out of place with the story.

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it was fine for a 2023 release but not very memorable.

side rant: modern films have been lacking in depth and character, I hope more movies can pull off a Baldur Gates in the future

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Fun to watch no desire to rewatch ugh

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A film with potential, however, the rushed execution compromised the depth of the story. The main characters lack charisma, making the plot somewhat monotonous. The plot sometimes seems confusing and uninteresting, with several holes and elements that don't fit together. However, the special effects are a highlight, featuring impressive detail. In short, an experience that could have been richer if it explored its theme better and developed more engaging characters.

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I really thought it would be a good movie after watching the trailer, but just like avatar it is just endless war and a lot of special effects with a very weak story, it is like reading a book with an amazing cover but only 3 pages. So much potential lost...the only good thing was that for the first time ever the Americans are the bad guys.

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An amazing movie that I really wish had more time to develop the world and story. Edwards was able to do so much with so little in both the story and CGI. I really enjoyed this, but again I feel like a lot more could have been explored given more time.

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Less confusing then Tenet, simple as that. An interesting world building movie and they try to get you involved in the whole process of humans versus AI. It was a cool concept, and liked the design and beauty behind it but John David Washington just doesn't feel like a right fit for the movie as a leading man but I am a fan of the guy. Honestly it was a cool movie with a bit of confusing parts but overall I do like these futuristic type of cyborg movies with robots and AI, and this was well done with a bit of confusion initially.

If you like this type of movie then you will enjoy it, if your not into science fiction then this might not be your thing.

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Absolutely spectacular! Bravo Gareth and all involved! 8/10

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Found the film didn’t flow well and felt rushed in places.

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It's been a while since I watched a good sci-fi in theaters that screamed to me that it's worth paying. I am not saying this will blow your mind away, but this will make you feel why you, me and everyone else love movies and why we catch on that seat in the cinema hall every now and then hoping to feel something New from cinema.

It's been beautifully crafted that takes us right into the dystopian world. This movie has released at time where AI is growing and questions are asked about the safety of humans and this one exactly addresses that.

It's packed with some pretty great music by Hans Zimmer, and amazin VFX which transports you right into the characters life and their flaws. All said go watch this movie if you've a good time.

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Visually stunning, with an incredible sense of scale, all in a fantastically realized future world, but a little emotionally stunted: I felt like there were several moments where the movie was telling me that I was supposed to be sad or distressed rather than letting me reach that conclusion on my own. Still a very thrilling experience - it feels real in a way that Star Wars and other big-budget sci-fi films never truly accomplish (because they’re not trying to).

Sidebar: a movie where we’re meant to empathize with AI seems a little…off, in terms of release timing. Specifically coming out of these strikes where it was such a sticking point.

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Like a next generation flesh light: it's technologically advanced, looks great and gives good vibrations but I didn't get emotionally invested.

I knew when I was supposed to feel things because of the overpowering music and dramatic facial expressions but I just sat there looking at the pictures.

A solid watch but give me Rogue One any day.

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I watched the ending of Rogue One 5 times in this movie

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OMG what a big dissapointment. I'm all pro for this post-apocalyptic stuff especially with machines and nuclear destruction like a nice sci-fi genre but this was so bad in writing and execution it was not even worth saying it is a B movie in the cheesy '80s.

It lack of what wanted to be. An action movie with CGI and explosions, a more realistic and artistic approach on the AI and what if they are good ? they messed up big time. The movie really is not worth it, many e-rational bad decisions and bad directional approach with a lot of gaps. My favorite been they didn't know what to do with the explosions.
They send a R2D2 type of robot what will explode, it makes a small hole on a bridge. He attach a bomb the size ice puck and he destroys the mother ship! And my awesome of two bombs shoot and attach the same style on the backpack but none of them realize it.

Also talk about AI and robots yet he just approached one and just turned the switch from on to off :laughing:
At points it was laughable.

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It's not like this movie is bad, it's more like it's so mediocre there's not much to it. They took a whole bunch of old cliches from other sci-fi-ish movies and put it all together, but it doesn't work. It's more like a soapy love drama in sci-fi entourage. And all that woke agenda doesn't help either - all good characters are either black or asian, and all bad people are whites.

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Honestly don't think I want to watch the film knowing they used real footage from Beirut...

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Shout by CinemanicBonkers
BlockedParent2024-04-27T20:27:11Z— updated 2024-04-28T22:17:46Z

Gareth Edwards you've done it again with another well made sci fi, loved every secound! fun, emotional and enjoyble with lots of great action/effects with some good actors that did well in their roles, it was like a mix of chappie and star wars, I want more! P.S nomad is just another name for deathstar ha

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1970s called, they want their plotholes and plot devices back.
How there's only one such weapon in the sky, how easy it is for one guy with a mech to get up to it and destroy it like it's nothing.
Then there are human size bombs on the legs that can barely destroy a small house, when they have more efficient aerial warfare used previously in the movie?

Then where the hell is background story for what happened? Motives behind the AI doing what they did.

The kid actor is talented, but that's about it.

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A very realistic portrayal of Americans.

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Bland and derivative in every aspect, even struggling to leave the slightest impression visually. The fragmented pace of the narrative also made me nauseous. The progression is so uneven and mechanical that it felt like they have randomly chopped pieces out of it. Not that I wanted the movie to be any longer, quite the opposite…

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A wonderfull story about a family, forget the AI, forget the type of film, and focus on the story behind.
If you are just gor an action gilm, and something with Ai, you don't understand the base of everything.

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I admire the visual effects and the grand scale, which director Gareth Edwards is so good at.

But anything else, it didn't work for me. I didn't connect with it emotionally, as I felt like I was seeing so many things, such as the themes and visual influences, before in other movies.

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The story has its flaws but the visuals are breathtaking. I mean 80 million The Marvels cost 270 million and look at both films in comparison.

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TL;DR: Not worth the two hours, just go to Wallhaven.

While this is visually a very interesting movie, being at over two hours long in the end it just feels like each long scenic flight over a vista is just a rehash of all the previous ones that the viewer has already seen. It gave the feeling that someone had collected a lot of concept art from Wallhaven and really wanted to cram all of it into the movie.

The story is very firmly in the 'Meh' (or worse) category. Dialog is incoherent, character motivations are all over the place, behaviour is floaty and feels non-consequential. And the main story arch revolves around a "father-figure-protecting-a-child" trope, which can work (see the recent 'Last of Us' or 'Children of Men' as an example) but here it completely falls flat. I was so divorced from the characters that some of the final scenes between the two protagonists, that were obviously meant to stir emotion in the audience, completely missed their mark.

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Me gustó, rollo star wars

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Couldnt even finish the movie..so bad

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I knew I was in for a questionable movie the moment John David Washington shouted "Stop, you'll blow my cover!" in a small ass house, with his wife still not out of the house.

The film was visually stunning from start to finish, but the script, dialogue, JWD's acting were all flawed.

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I enjoyed this. Much better than I was expecting. The first time I got real Blade Runner vibes.

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TLDR:
A decent first half with beautiful CG that completely gets destroyed by the rushed ending and aweful writing.

Long story:
First 80 mins :
- Believable really good CG
- Somewhat decent plot
- Somewhat decent acting
- No rushing of the plot

Remaining 40ish mins:
- Plot falls apart with dogsh*t writing
- We're suddenly pushed in taking a side with robots for no other reason then her being a child
- In the entire escape sequence they traveled across an entire city, through multiple checkpoints in less then 5mins and somehow didn't come across a single law enforcement officer... Even at a literal airport.

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It was a good movie, but for me it was very hard to see how US bastards killed AI robots and destroyed their worlds but I was happy with end of the film :P

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Although the CGI and the world-building was ambitious, ultimate the plot and character development didn’t hold up to the hype

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How much Film Grain do you want ?

Yes.

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[Disney+] If production companies want to make their businesses profitable, they should cancel wasteful directors like the Russo brothers and focus more on talented filmmakers like Gareth Edwards, who are capable of creating great visual concepts with less than $100 million. That said, it is surprising that the script turns out to be so unbalanced that it fails to sustain a story in which there are such good ideas about the development of an emotional AI, almost more human than humans themselves. With Christian connotations of an existentialist nature, the film fails to convey too much depth in its proposals and in the choice of its protagonist, becoming involved in a somewhat facile romantic plot.

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Nothing new… robot’s fighting humans… humans loving robots…

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Shout by kinky
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It's just an OK sci-fi movie (but a surprisingly emotional one). As others have been saying, great world building, subpar writing. Still enjoyable, overall. Not worth a second watch, though.

I can only imagine how good this could have been in the hands of Neill Blomkamp, as it seems like something right up his alley.

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Can‘t praise this movie enough. Its visual power is striking. The dynamics between the AI and humand thought provoking. And the acting of the girl is heartwarming.

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I really enjoyed this film.
Superb CGI, very realistic. A good watch. A cross between Avatar and Westworld

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Over 20 years ago, Spielberg's "A.I. Artificial Intelligence" premiered. Two decades later, A.I. is still not conscious, but this film makes us aware of how fluid the boundary of being is.

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Visually this movie is really stunning. The story was okay but could have been better in many ways. I still enjoyed the film just for the amazing cinematography though.

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visuals and sound don't carry a movie on its own, the kid had more range than the son of Denzel Washington.

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Ok, watch preview much better. Big let down.

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No, it's not an original sci-fi story. It takes from here and there (Blade Runner, I, Robot, Logan...). But I still liked it.
I loved how real it looks. You can tell something was filmed with green screen backgrounds even in movies 3 times more expensive.
And the final shot might be my favorite of 2023, even though I loved other movies much more.

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Starts off really promising but the 2nd hour drags significantly. Not bad overall but John David Washington is still a charisma vacuum.

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Certainly looks good. Uses many predictable war/action movie tropes (maybe all of them); story doesn't go anywhere surprising.

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Shout by jmonty
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BlockedParentSpoilers2024-01-02T21:44:11Z

definitely didn't cry at the ending :)

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I’m not much of a sci-fi person, but I personally thought it was a pretty cool movie, especially for the visuals.

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Not sure I’ve seen a movie as silly, take itself as seriously. 5/10

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Not impressed with this movie at all. gave it a 5.

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Beautiful cinematography, but a wasted opportunity. This film could have been so much more. Instead it's just a sci-fi retread of The Golden Child.

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It can be clearly seen in this movie that America is making huge robots and weapons, no one is stopping them and whatever other countries will make weapons or AI, America will destroy them, it is not right.

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It's boring, slow, and boring, and you can't feel the beauty anywhere in the video.

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Maybe I was just too excited for this movie? I thought it was going to be great, but turned out to be a big "meh" burger. It wasn't horrible, but if I certainly had other movies I'd have preferred to watch in its place. It just wasn't that good.

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So on one hand, America is clearly portrayed as evil in this movie. On the other hand, it paints entire Asian block as utterly incompetent. Not a single Asian officer / soldier in the entire movie can complete a single task successfully. I kept track of that during the runtime. Trashiest example of this -> tens of Asian soldiers couldn't shoot and hit one American soldier running towards them on bridge; another American had to do that for them. Lol. Even covertly racist movies let the "enemy" win one or two rounds. Not here. This movie wants to portray that entire Asia is incompetent, and it's "'Murica, F-yeah!!" all the way.

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3/10
Good basic idea and world concept. Interesting hooks. Good CGI.
That's about it for the good parts.
Everything else is bad to say the least.

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This gets extremely high marks just on visuals and world building alone. I got a lot of District 9 vibes in that nothing felt CGI slick and instead was lived in and grimy. The story is not as smart as I'd have hoped and a lot of it is a linear road trip style plot, but through it all we get to experience a consistent mood and see a visually rich world. For a sci-fi action flick, this may be a tad too boring for some, but I loved it despite some of the derivative nature of the plot.

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Occasionally messy but for the most part, this is a visually imaginative and enjoyable piece of sci fi.

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AI based Baby Yoda movie with a twist :) Worth your time.

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If you like well done classic USA=BAD propaganda films, you'll love this.

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