Shout by k p
Did you all give high ratings to make a point? Half way through the movie I could not keep my eyes open. Seriously... 8.7 / 10 in IMDB. Crazy!
loading replies
@dungrapid5 It's ok, you can dislike something most people like, doesn't mean they're lying
Finally the end of this horrible show
loading replies
@justin_zw you think its horrible but still here and rated an unaired episode 2. What a sad life you have.
The fact that the main stream media is telling you not to watch this movie tells you everything you need to know — it's a must watch for everyone!
loading replies
@charlez7 Who is telling us not to watch it? Is this another "I heard someone say" case? The mysterious "They"???
I could have skipped this episode and missed nothing.
loading replies
@martlet the show, not inly in the text but also in interviews with the show-runners, is about love and the things we do for love (good and terrible) and to protect the ones we love.
Bill is a paralel to joel and frank to ellie. Opening up the others hearts and letting love in. On closed off by his own closeted homophobia and paranoia and the other from trauma and loss of his child. Both pragmatic and overly serious not letting others in (joel didn’t even let tess in for all the years they where together)
The episode shows also how post apocalypse we don’t have to sacrifice our humanity. To do more that just surviving but to actually live and care for the things around us. And for art, and beauty.
The letter at the end really activate joel in the quest to protect ellie. He has failed to protect his daughter and as reminded, tess. It tells him that life with purpose is possible and it’s mostly someone else. And that they, both, would do anything to protect the ones they care about… and i pity the fool who stand on their way (foreshadowing what joel is going to do in the end)
There are many more reasons why this episode matters in the context of the show but a not unimportant one is that it was beautiful and a good story and telling it was something they wanted to do and was worth it… maybe not to you but for many others, apparently.
What the fuck was even the point of this movie
loading replies
@adafeloz Sorry you didn't like it! It's an interesting look at the destabilisation of a country after a, worryingly plausible, large scale cyberattack. The movie critiques our over reliance on digital conveniences, and champions older, more analogue technologies as a more reliable, persistent alternative. It also critiques our inability to trust our fellow man due to the digital echo chambers we've built ourselves, and the prejudices these spaces create within us without ever meeting the people it warns us about. Additionally, it shows the younger generations, unheard and toothless (heh) in their protests to be heard by the elders, resorting to over consumption of material things and media to escape and block out the incoming end of the world. Hope you can give it another try, I truly loved this one and think it's quite poignant given the times. It might even be seen as prophetic if we're on the cusp of a similar, real world cyberattack like this.
So he is the new Martha now
loading replies
@great_vc To me, it seemed that it was a moment of realisation that he was not to blame for Martha. That bartender offering him a drink free of charge just like he did with the ice tea to Martha, helped him to see that him performing one act of kindness just as this man did to him didn’t give Martha, justification to stalk him and ruin his life. He was not to blame and he realised it in that moment.
Spiderman No Way Home - Expected The Unexpected And You Will Still Be Surprised - This Is The Best Yet From Marvel Phase 4 - They Outdid It With Spiderman No Way Home & I Loved All The Characters In It - No Spoilers For Sure But All I Can Say Is Try To Avoid Any Trailers What So Ever And You Will Not Be Disappointed - The Story Was Heartfelt And The Action Was Nonstop From Beginning To End - I Will Watch Again It Was That Good
Stay For The Two Post Credit Scenes - Must Stay To Watch Them - Also Avoid All Trailer If Possible
The Only Part Is Marvel Needs To Start Coming Together Is Marvel's Phase Four Isn't Clear - With The Avengers And Each Avenger They All Came Together But With This It's A Mess But Still This Is The Best Spiderman Movie Yet And By Far The Best Marvel Movie Out Of Phase 4
loading replies
@zdistrict how much effort it must take to capitalise every first letter just for it to be grammatically incorrect lmfao
Not sure why everybody is so excited about this movie. The detective part was much weaker than in the first movie, and the rest is just a typical Netflix annoying propaganda.
The detective is gay now, of course. The main villain is a white male, of course. The most brutal guy (Batista) is a sissy mama's boy, of course. And the smartest, bravest, strong and independent hero is a black woman, of course. So tired of this Netflix crap.
Just before you making her a hero in your eyes remember that just for the sake of vengeance she burned the original Mona Lisa painting without any doubt, which one of the most precious art heritage of our civilization.loading replies
Lmao if the villain is white, the movie hates white people. If the villain its black, then its too “woke” movies just cant win with you guys. Also who cares if a character is gay? It has nothing to do with the story. I dont know why you people are so obsessed with sexuality its frankly a tad bit creepy.
Also you need to do some intensive introspection if you have issue with a black woman being portrayed in a positive manner. Mind you a black woman AND a white man (benoit) were the heroes of your story but i get it you hate black women so youre just going to conveniently ignore that.
Also she may have burned the mona lisa but that never would have been the case if edward norton didnt take a loan of it just for the bragging rights. It also never would have burned if he didnt have that override button to remove the fire safe protection. But yes we get it you hate black women so of course its the big mean black ladies fault for burning some painting in a fictional movie.
At some point you guys are going to have to realize that theres nothing wrong with these movies you guys just hate minorities and youre upset that all your little temper tantrums on the internet wont erase racial minorities and queer people from movies.
To the 1.3k people from the future who have already watched this episode before release: How was it? :eyes:
loading replies
@featfox Why can't Trakt stop allowing ratings for shows that haven't been aired? Been a request for as long as I've been using it.
Oh the wokeness ... SJW's must love it
loading replies
@eon4dk Can't you handle stepping outside your safe space?
Erm.. okay I'm so confused
loading replies
@progshine No they really shouldnt. As someone that has read the books i dont agree with that at all. If the show cant tell whats happening without additional knowledge, it has failed in that regard.
I however also dont think that Calanthe not being dead and not married to Eist yet is horribly confusing. Both of them are definitely dead and if they are both walking around it has to either be a dream or the past. How is that hard.
Just to know ! Does this season has woke stuff?? So i can skip like the other season
loading replies
You being a bigot doesn't mean the last season was "woke". Supporting gay rights and acknowledging the aids epidemic from the past isn't "woke". In fact, AHS has always had gay characters.
The meanest thing I could say about this movie is ‘Has extreme Don’t Worry Darling energy’.
I have never seen a movie more desperate to justify itself. It’s trapped in this endless neurosis over what it is- a blockbuster Barbie movie in 2023 by an acclaimed art house director that is fun but also deep but also earnest but also self aware but also but also but also. Every point it raises it brings up a counterpoint to before the audience can, every frame is trying to prove it’s not just product but art. It’s never just Barbie. It’s never confident or even comfortable in its skin. You cannot for a second be immersed in Barbie because it’s not a story so much as a visual dissertation without a central thesis, it’s a student film riffing on the big dogs hoping it’s underdog audacity will carry it but given a budget in the millions. It so desperately wants you to like it, to know it’s in on the joke too.
Everythng is an ouroboros here: an endless loop of argument and counterarguement feeding itself. Isn’t it shitty how the Mattel boardroom is full of men? Ah, but isn’t it cool how Mattel’s acknowledged it with this niche? And it’ll mythologize Barbie’s creator but uh don’t worry she did tax evasion we know that, now let her impart into Barbie the experience of all women. Barbie helps women, Barbie hurts women, Barbie is told to be everything so isn’t she just like women, but it is better to be a creator than the idea, and in the end, hasn’t Barbie helped all these women? Oh uh why is this blonde white Barbie the centerpiece of it all and helping not only her diverse Barbie friends but a Hispanic woman and her daughter? Don’t worry we’ll have the daughter call her a white savior! But don’t worry we’ll have the mom say she’s not! It’s fascinating to watch, honestly. It’s a film that wants to prove to you so so bad that it works but it doesn’t and it knows it doesn’t and it knows you knows. It’s Gerta Gerwig wrestling with taking this job for an hour and a half.
The cast is more than game and able. Margot Robbie is doing her damndest to find the heart and soul in this role, and there’s one scene with an old lady near the end of the first act/beginning of the second that actually works, for just a moment, more than any of the big third act soliloquies or montages with emotional ballads. And as someone who’s seen Blade Runner 2049 and Drive, this is the best Ryan Gosling performance I’ve seen. The man commits and delivers a surprisingly compelling and entertaining antagonist. The movie can’t quite reconcile what he’s done with his ending, or tie it into the themes- is Ken letting go of Barbie and the need to define himself for or against her symbolizing the need for men to do the same, and if so, why play it so lightly and sympathetically?- but that’s not his fault. And the supporting cast are entertaining, but you just can’t have big laughs with a movie that feels like it’s constantly checking in the corner of its eye after every joke to see if you’re laughing, grin stuck in place. It’s not as funny or as smart as it wants to be, and the sad thing is, it feels like it knows that too.
There is some great set design, cinematography, dazzling choreography, popping colors, and some fun high points. But I can’t imagine many kids liking it. And we’ve seen how conservatives have taken this movie. And anyone’s who’s progressed beyond the politics of. Well. A feminist blockbuster Barbie movie will find it cloying or condescending or just incredibly basic. It’s aimed at a very specific crowd who will buy what it’s saying, the liberals who see corporate feminism as progress, who agree that it’s just about a little change sometimes, who are ready for something just a little more complex than a SNL sketch. I don’t regret seeing it, because I was deeply engaged the whole time seeing it struggle at war with itself, in pain for its whole existence. It’s not a boring movie by any means. It wants to say everything before the audience can say it first. It’s the endpoint of The Lego Movie and Enchanted- the corporations interrogating and justifying themselves, and the cracks in this formula are too large to ignore. It wants to be so much, and the attempt is as darkly mesmerizing as a fly thinking it can somehow and someway metamorphize into a butterfly and suffocating and struggling in its makeshift cocoon, but this is one Barbie that fundamentally just cannot break out of its box.
loading replies
Damn, it must’ve took you longer to write this text than watching the movie itself. I think you went to see the movie with a hammer just to make sure you had a good reason to knock it down. It flatters you that you still gave it a 4, but let’s not forget that cinema is by all means just a form of art. All other statements are just extra layers that makes it hard these days to do something ‘right’. Sometimes things can be just ‘cool’ and ‘entertaining’. :wink:
Jessica Gao is just an outright awful writer who disgraced every actor and actress in this show by ruining a wonderful Marvel character. If she believes that every man is like this, she really requires substantial help. It's really terrible. If I weren't a completist and wanted to know everything about the Marvel Cinematic Universe, I would've already abandoned this show. I will have to endure all of this, tragically.
loading replies
@eddierdy I'm more concerned that even though the series also shows normal male characters, you only look at the toxic ones to shout "she thinks all men are like that".
Let's see if it's going to turn out that you identify with those types of men and the one who needs help is you.
Complaining that you're "tragically going to have to endure" watching a series is nothing to beat your chest about either.
The whole whisperers and their masks is so stupid. So you just put a mask and you become invisible to zombies. Leaving this aside why didn’t the other side just put masks as well to defend from whisperers and “invisibly” kill the wave of zombies sent by them.
loading replies
@daniels0xff Yeah it's ridiculous. One of the most iconic scenes of the show is when Rick and Glenn drape themselves in entrails and still end up having to run because the rain starts washing some of the blood off. 10 seasons later that all goes out the window and Beta can push his way through a crowd of walkers already attracted by noise just because he slapped half of someone's face onto his head?
Just to know ! Does this season has woke stuff?? So i can skip like the other season
loading replies
@nef1ace Omg... :joy: AHS has been "woke" since season 1 and you realised it 10 seasons later? :joy:
Did all the writers go on vacation and leave the temp to write this episode??
loading replies
@nintenuendo If they did, they should get a promotion.
The film features stunning photography of nature and wildlife, and is definitively worth-watching and thought-provoking. I love David Attenborough's accent, he speaks so clearly and understandably that the film can be recommended to people learning English even at lower levels. The ecological message was great for the feast of St. Francis. I did not like the idea of eoncouraging people to reduce the number of children they have, it looks like a bad idea as in most developed countries there is already problem with negative natural increase so it would have a bad effect on these countries. I also wonder about re-wilding the planet and introducing sustanability, would it not lead to job loss among people employed in industries related to overexploitation of nature? Caring about nature is very important but people are far more important than animals. I also disliked the part in which humans are called a species of animal, they are much better than that as they have immortal souls which animals do not possess. Choosing between animal and human welfare, humans are alaways more important.
loading replies
@ladysherlockian While I agree with your comments' first half, the second part has me scratching my head a bit.
Thanks to lower child mortality rates, women empowerment and due to rising cost of raising kids the fertility rate globally is in a decline. This is currently a good thing. Data shows the rate to increases again after we hit a certain development threshold, so don't be too dismayed. Read more at https://ourworldindata.org/fertility-rate
Why re-wilding the planet would be a good thing is essentially what the documentary is all about. The planet is one eco system dependant on a delicate balance to work optimally. I knew industries raising chickens and cows merely to be eaten wasn't sustainable, but I was shocked at the numbers being quoted how big a portion that is. We've tamed the world and today there's no need for it. Farms should mainly be for human plant-based food, with animals being a natural aid for local eco systems (making up a whole) - just like the Serengeti.
Jobs will just transition from the exploiting soon-to-be-obsolete industries to sustainable ones. Machines and systems now take care of a lot of hazardous and mundane jobs humans used to do. However, someone's gotta design, engineer, maintain and manage those parts. New, "better," jobs will emerge as history is inclined to show us.
Growth doesn't lie in fossil industries or exploitable areas, something a few banks and pensions have yet to realize... IMO this is why having a good education based in STEM is of utter importance, as it can be applied in virtually any field you choose to work in and will enable you to easier transition between jobs or industries if needed.
People being more important than animals can be debated endlessly. I'd say objectively we're equal and the only reason we would be deemed more important is because we literally have the ability to save animals facing extinction. On the contrary, what we've done to practically exterminate plenty of innocent species is an argument against us being the most important one.
We're literally a species of animal. That's a simple fact and thankfully it doesn't matter whether you believe it or not. Having a "soul" is yet to be proven, that's just us humans thinking we're extra special or unable to cope with the fact of our lives being finite.
Choosing between animals and human welfare is a silly proposition. The idea of understanding how things function is maybe the greatest specialty humans have, and it would be very unwise of us to choose not to utilize that for the greater good of our planet.
In an otherwise fantastic series, this episode is hamstrung by the clumsy narrative and hamfisted direction, pointedly marked by the jarring shift to voice over commenting that will remain an annoying element of the rest of the series. As it is also essentially redundant to its predecessor, I recommend skipping straight from the hauntingly superb episode 6 to episode 8.
loading replies
Really? You recommend skipping one of the most brutal, important episodes.
Okay, but WHAT is going on with Maeve’s health?? I understand her entire family are drug addicts, but why on earth is she suddenly looking like a crack junkie at the brink of death too?? She’s really not looking remotely okay…
loading replies
Wild guess: her mom just died. Her eye is bruised because of the headbutt with Otis by the way.
An underwhelming effort from a company that seems to have fallen behind the curve. Creatively it’s pulling too much from Zootopia and Inside Out while not adding much of its own flavour, almost every choice in this movie is predictable. Sure, the racism/prejudice commentary is more aggressive now that we’ve entered the post-Trump era (seriously, you should go back and look at how Zootopia handled that same topic, it feels quaint now), but besides that it doesn’t bring much to the table. The worldbuilding lacks the clever intricacies of Zootopia, the pretty animation style has some unique textures but it’s no Across the Spider-verse, and emotionally it feels more like Illumination than Pixar. It’s a very straightforward, cheesy romcom with a formulaic set-up for the main characters (think Notting Hill, Crazy Rich Asians, and countless other movies your mom loves), some ok comedy (bad puns notwithstanding) and a boring adventure (fixing pipelines, how exciting). The score’s pretty interesting because it seems to pull a lot from Indian folk music, on the other hand the songs sound generic and overproduced. Overall, I’d easily recommend this over some other animated films from this year, as this does genuinely try as a movie. However, that doesn’t change that I expect both children and adults to be mostly bored by this.
4.5/10
loading replies
@jordyep You sound incredibly fun
The handmaiden's tale is a positive story compared to this horrible shit. I'm done.
loading replies
@gonzopersona You were watching hoping for something uplifting and cheery?
Review by Jordy
VIP8Denis Villeneuve is the man!
There’s only one word that came into my mind after watching it: finally.Finally, a blockbuster that isn’t afraid to be primarily driven by drama and tension, and doesn’t undercut its own tone by throwing in a joke every 30 seconds.
Finally, a blockbuster that puts actual effort in its cinematography, and doesn’t have a bland or calculated colour palette.
Finally, a blockbuster with a story that has actual substance and themes, and doesn’t rely on intertextual references or nostalgia to create a fake sheen of depth.
Finally, a blockbuster that doesn’t pander to China by having big, loud and overblown action sequences, but relies on practical and grounded spectacle instead (it has big sand worms, you really don’t need to throw anything at the screen besides that).
Finally, a blockbuster that actually feels big, because it isn’t primarily shot in close ups, or on a sound stage.
And of course: finally, a blockbuster that isn’t a fucking prequel, sequel, or connected to an already established IP somehow.(Yeah, I know Tenet did those things as well, but I couldn’t get into that because the characters were so flat and uninteresting).
This just checks all the boxes. An engaging story with subtext, very well set up characters, great acting (like James Gunn, Villeneuve's great at accentuating the strengths of limited actors like Dave Bautista and Jason Momoa), spectecular visuals and art design (desaturated but not in an ugly washed out way), pacing (slow but it never drags), directing, one of Hans Zimmer’s best scores: it’s all here.
I only have one real criticism: there’s too much exposition, especially in the first half.
It can occasionally hold your hand by referencing things that have already been established previously, and some scenes of characters explaining stuff to each other could’ve been conveyed more visually.
Other than that, it’s easily one of the best films of the year.
I’ve seen some people critiquing it for being incomplete, which is true, but this isn’t just a set up for a future film.
It feels like a whole meal, there are pay offs in this, and the characters progress (even if, yes, their arcs are still incomplete).8.5/10
loading replies
@jordyep "And of course: finally, a blockbuster that isn’t a fucking prequel, sequel, or connected to an already established IP somehow." Hate to point this out, but Dune is very much an already established IP. As you mention at the end of your review, it is an adaptation of a novel (with a rather large following), and it has several earlier adaptations in several media including a not so small movie in the 80's.
"I only have one real criticism: there’s too much exposition, especially in the first half." + "... conveyed more visually."
Totally agree, my main issue with this movie is the same. Even the impressive big shots do not manage to distract from the pacing issues of all the exposition that had to be discussed. Also, I found the main character somewhat lacked to show some character in the first act. It was mostly others describing/planning for him.
(Edited for some nuance)
As dark as what Walter did was, she deserved it. She was completely full of herself and blackmailed Walter for the money. Not to mention she was basically making Jesse's decisions for him. While she may have truly loved him, she would've definitely used that money to continue being an addict. That's most likely the very reason she even wanted the money. I'm not going to feel sympathy now that she's dead.
loading replies
@legendaryfang56 Agreed. But I do feel bad for her father, as he really tried to turn it around. Also, makes me dislike Jesse - he was essentially the one who got her back into it - if she hadn't met him, things would have likely turned out better for her.
The fact that the main stream media is telling you not to watch this movie tells you everything you need to know — it's a must watch for everyone!
loading replies
@ptknight do enlighten me with your superior intellect :upside_down:
The meanest thing I could say about this movie is ‘Has extreme Don’t Worry Darling energy’.
I have never seen a movie more desperate to justify itself. It’s trapped in this endless neurosis over what it is- a blockbuster Barbie movie in 2023 by an acclaimed art house director that is fun but also deep but also earnest but also self aware but also but also but also. Every point it raises it brings up a counterpoint to before the audience can, every frame is trying to prove it’s not just product but art. It’s never just Barbie. It’s never confident or even comfortable in its skin. You cannot for a second be immersed in Barbie because it’s not a story so much as a visual dissertation without a central thesis, it’s a student film riffing on the big dogs hoping it’s underdog audacity will carry it but given a budget in the millions. It so desperately wants you to like it, to know it’s in on the joke too.
Everythng is an ouroboros here: an endless loop of argument and counterarguement feeding itself. Isn’t it shitty how the Mattel boardroom is full of men? Ah, but isn’t it cool how Mattel’s acknowledged it with this niche? And it’ll mythologize Barbie’s creator but uh don’t worry she did tax evasion we know that, now let her impart into Barbie the experience of all women. Barbie helps women, Barbie hurts women, Barbie is told to be everything so isn’t she just like women, but it is better to be a creator than the idea, and in the end, hasn’t Barbie helped all these women? Oh uh why is this blonde white Barbie the centerpiece of it all and helping not only her diverse Barbie friends but a Hispanic woman and her daughter? Don’t worry we’ll have the daughter call her a white savior! But don’t worry we’ll have the mom say she’s not! It’s fascinating to watch, honestly. It’s a film that wants to prove to you so so bad that it works but it doesn’t and it knows it doesn’t and it knows you knows. It’s Gerta Gerwig wrestling with taking this job for an hour and a half.
The cast is more than game and able. Margot Robbie is doing her damndest to find the heart and soul in this role, and there’s one scene with an old lady near the end of the first act/beginning of the second that actually works, for just a moment, more than any of the big third act soliloquies or montages with emotional ballads. And as someone who’s seen Blade Runner 2049 and Drive, this is the best Ryan Gosling performance I’ve seen. The man commits and delivers a surprisingly compelling and entertaining antagonist. The movie can’t quite reconcile what he’s done with his ending, or tie it into the themes- is Ken letting go of Barbie and the need to define himself for or against her symbolizing the need for men to do the same, and if so, why play it so lightly and sympathetically?- but that’s not his fault. And the supporting cast are entertaining, but you just can’t have big laughs with a movie that feels like it’s constantly checking in the corner of its eye after every joke to see if you’re laughing, grin stuck in place. It’s not as funny or as smart as it wants to be, and the sad thing is, it feels like it knows that too.
There is some great set design, cinematography, dazzling choreography, popping colors, and some fun high points. But I can’t imagine many kids liking it. And we’ve seen how conservatives have taken this movie. And anyone’s who’s progressed beyond the politics of. Well. A feminist blockbuster Barbie movie will find it cloying or condescending or just incredibly basic. It’s aimed at a very specific crowd who will buy what it’s saying, the liberals who see corporate feminism as progress, who agree that it’s just about a little change sometimes, who are ready for something just a little more complex than a SNL sketch. I don’t regret seeing it, because I was deeply engaged the whole time seeing it struggle at war with itself, in pain for its whole existence. It’s not a boring movie by any means. It wants to say everything before the audience can say it first. It’s the endpoint of The Lego Movie and Enchanted- the corporations interrogating and justifying themselves, and the cracks in this formula are too large to ignore. It wants to be so much, and the attempt is as darkly mesmerizing as a fly thinking it can somehow and someway metamorphize into a butterfly and suffocating and struggling in its makeshift cocoon, but this is one Barbie that fundamentally just cannot break out of its box.
loading replies
who hurt you this bad
again placing woke ideology do not improve your movie.
loading replies
@edgrande what are you talking about
Shout by Jordy
VIP8Is it just me or is there some circlejerk going on at Disney where they keep using the same group of actors over and over again for their different brands? Just stop using Taika Waititi already.
The movie itself is pretty whatever.
It reminded me a lot of Onward; you could do a lot worse, but it probably won’t be remembered within the broader Pixar catalogue.
Not a lot of depth or subtext with this one, it’s a pretty straight forward adventure (which is also fine of course).
Some good animation (lots of visual ideas are being pulled from Star Wars), decent voice acting, fine characters, story’s alright.
It’s kinda inoffensive and doesn’t really warrant some of the extreme reactions it’s gotten.
The whole ‘woke’ label is baffling to me, it just seems like a smokescreen certain people use to cover up for their own homophobia, which only emphasizes how the word ‘woke’ carries little to no meaning nowadays.
Any regular person will be fine watching this, regardless of their political leaning.
Ffs, it’s mass entertainment after all.5/10
loading replies
@jordyep Agreed on the "woke" part. The same sex relationship didn't feel forced at all, it was well done and just normalized, just like you can see a lot of couples like this in real life. The whole "kiss" discussion leading up to the release was completely overblown, if was barely a peck.
Oh and my 8 years old didn't even register the same sex marriage, for him it was just two adults in love I guess.
Oh the wokeness ... SJW's must love it
loading replies
@eon4dk I finally managed to watch this episode. That's what triggered you?
what an awful movie
90% of the film is him walking and dealing with useless and meaningless shit
it's like if you buy a game and only do side quests (not the fun ones!)
speaking of games, this film is the equivalent of Death Stranding, just walking and no action
I only gave it 3/10 because I liked the visuals other than that this movie lacks in everything
awful story, no character development and most importantly no clear vision
they just wanted to do a film and seem smart about ithuge fail
loading replies
@nasserfeed Your comment convinced me that this is an amazing movie.
