Is this a great Star Wars movie? No. Is this the worst thing to ever happen to Star Wars? Not even close.
And for all the "Anakin's sacrifice and turn was undone" fanboys, this doesn't undo what Anakin intentionally did to save Luke, or his turn back to the light. Anakin sacrificed his life to destroy the Sith master who'd turned him to ensure Luke's survival. We all saw as much when Luke saw the Force ghosts of puppet Yoda, Alec Guinness and Sebastian Shaw (before the sloppy Hayden Christensen insert in 2004). Anakin's sacrifice and turn to the light was not trumped by this movie, and anyone who argues otherwise is just repeating the laziest criticisms they've copy/pasted from the internet over the last four years.
I really do not understand the hate this movie gets. It almost feels like a hive mind effect where viral videos are influencing people's opinions, rather than just forming their own. I absolutely love this movie. For me, it is nearly perfect. The only minor complaint I have is that the Leia scenes feel awkward, but obviously, they were limited in what they could do with that, and considering they avoided doing a deepfake/cgi version, the results are not bad considering the situation.
Otherwise, I think Palpatine is a fantastic villain, and his inclusion was a stroke of brilliance. The Last Jedi sort of wrote the series into a corner. Where The Force Awakens set up all these threads for the trilogy to follow, The Last Jedi basically ended them all, and basically gave the middle finger to anybody who was curious about the mysteries the previous movie set up. So yeah, JJ felt like he needed to do some course correction to get out of the corner the previous movie sort of forced them into, but I think he did it in a way that's still respectful of what The Last Jedi did, while still being a satisfying conclusion to what TFA set up. Using Palpatine is smart because it finds a way to tie all of those loose threads together, but also simultaneously brings all three trilogies together, and even delivers on the promise Palpatine made to Anakin in episode 3. Plus the idea of Palpatine returning is something that has existed in the old EU for a long time and it's something I was always interested in seeing on screen.
As for the rest of it, Daisy Ridley and Adam Driver are brilliant as always, but the rest of the cast is actually used really well. I especially enjoyed C3PO in this one. The story is a fast paced adventure, with a lot of exciting locations and action, but all of this is grounded by good story and character development work. It all feels really satisfying.
They cant be serious. Palpatin is back again why didnt they bring another death star. Ohh wait they did but now its a Ring around a Planet and not a whole Metall ball. Never seen a more boring and uncreative franchise than this. The older ep 4 5 and 6 were at least enjoyable but still uncreative. This isnt even that.
Ive seen so many doomsday weapons in Action Media and all they can come up with is a big Ball for 3 times with the same villain.
The only decent new star wars movie is rouge one
Absolutely amazing a few flaws yes but still amazing
As someone that just enjoys some pew pew in their Star Wars movie, I enjoyed it.
This movie really falls apart when you start thinking about it, but this is not a movie that you really think about. Despite that, it has some absolutely great scenes! Plus, I just love Star Wars. 8.5/10 :star:
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Worst star wars movie in my opinion, has cool scenes tho. I'm not the greatest fan of Star Wars but I didn't enjoy this movie the same as the other ones.
More in detail, I felt this movie completely ignored the past two. Palpatine's return came out of nowhere and doesn't make any sense, a lame choice in my opinion.
The plot wasn't as entertaining as the others, I had a slow feeling watching it.
5/10 for me, it's not horrendous as other people say, just a meh movie.
I hate this film so much
Don't watch this one.
Compared with episodes 7 and 8, this is passable. Of course, at this point, you probably already learned to overlook the poor writing, but everything considered, this is fine
This is probably the closest to that classic Star Wars magic that the sequels got, original, fun creatures and planets, beautiful shots, colors, set pieces, and scenes. If the first movie was more like this in the original but familiar vibe of classic Star Wars, I feel that the sequels would've been more highly received. Also General Hux best general, at least in the sequels.
People be so mad that they introduced new force abilities like bruh, you rather have it never be changed or anything? A lot of expanded universe stuff and the games did the same but no one complains.
Also, the people in that theater who said "Where's Ben?" Is like going to heaven and asking where Mao is, the man was evil bruh, this ain't no Vader redeeming himself type of stuff. This ain't no family bonds or you could tell he cares about her type of thing like the original trilogy. He might've redeemed himself at the end but Death Vader you can tell he was never gonna kill his son or anything. It's also just a non-issue, it's like the littlest thing bruh. Like people really only wanted refunds because of that and her saying her name is Rey Skywalker like bruh you want her to say she's Rey Palpatine? Like if I was the granddaughter of like some terrible dictator and xenophobic person I would change my name too. It's all basically self-entitled man-children who want their own headcanons and politics in it.
I enjoyed it, but I did so with a sizeable asterisk
is Rise of Skywalker a course correction or a flat-out apology? I'm leaning to the former, but there can be no doubt that much of what Last Jedi introduced into the canon has been unceremoniously discarded. Indeed, Rise is more of a sequel to J.J. Abrams's Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015) than it is to Last Jedi, one or two major plot points notwithstanding, and whilst Last Jedi looked forward, clumsily introducing new concepts and themes to the franchise, Rise follows Force Awakens in doing the opposite – it looks back, and is chock-full of throwbacks and references to the previous films. And although I certainly enjoyed it as a spectacle (it looked and sounded exceptional in 3D IMAX), there's no doubt it's a deeply flawed piece of work. It's the kind of film that feels like it was created by a computer algorithm or a corporate committee trying to tick as many boxes as possible – rather than attempting something ambitious which fans might not like, it's far more concerned with trying to please everyone without offending anyone.
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A pretty spectacle with little substance and tons of fanservice. A movie that tries to make bold decisions, only to backpedal from it a scene later.
The more you think about the story, the less sense it makes. Pretty scenes make this utter nonsense watchable at least.
.. bad actors, terrible acting; bad history; terrible directing. The worse thing I ever saw under the "Star Wars" name. Unspeakable disapointment.
Original trilogy, episodes IV–VI
A New Hope (1977) https://trakt.tv/movies/star-wars-1977
The Empire Strikes Back (1980) https://trakt.tv/movies/the-empire-strikes-back-1980
Return of the Jedi (1983) https://trakt.tv/movies/return-of-the-jedi-1983
Prequel trilogy, episodes I–III
The Phantom Menace (1999) https://trakt.tv/movies/star-wars-episode-i-the-phantom-menace-1999
Attack of the Clones (2002) https://trakt.tv/movies/star-wars-episode-ii-attack-of-the-clones-2002
Revenge of the Sith (2005) https://trakt.tv/movies/star-wars-episode-iii-revenge-of-the-sith-2005
Sequel trilogy, episodes VII–IX
The Force Awakens (2015) https://trakt.tv/movies/star-wars-the-force-awakens-2015
The Last Jedi (2017) https://trakt.tv/movies/star-wars-the-last-jedi-2017
The Rise of Skywalker (2019) https://trakt.tv/movies/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-2019
Anthology films
Rogue One (2016) https://trakt.tv/movies/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-2016
Solo (2018) https://trakt.tv/movies/solo-a-star-wars-story-2018
Rogue Squadron (2023) https://trakt.tv/movies/rogue-squadron-2023
How does the evil empire have all the resources they have in this movie, when they have already been defeated in an earlier Star Wats movie?
There is a new official and good government in charge now, but they are never mentioned. It would be their job to defeat the empire and the sith, not the job of "the resistance."
The resistance isn't even needed anymore because the good guys have already won. The new movies keep forgetting that and the people who watch the movies seem to forget it too.
The best part of this movie is the possible love affair between Kylo Ren and Ray, and their possible force having love child! It's too bad the movie wasn't written that way. It would have been a better story.
I thought I'd jot down some random thoughts I had watching Rise of Skywalker:
-Why does Kylo Ren wear his helmet only when it's NOT needed?
-Does Rey have a change of clothes? Can't she at least bring a carry on?
-Chewbacca's hair doesn't do well in dry desert conditions
-Lando's got connections. He must keep his LinkedIn account current
-Poe gets promoted to General and then hits his personal Peter principle
-I'd like to fix shit with Babu Frik in his workshop
-Rey isn't totally annoying in this movie
-Finn actually seems to matter. He's keeping Poe, Chewy, and Rey in line
-C3PO isn't totally annoying in this movie
-Do you need gravity to run around the deck of a Star Destroyer in space?
-Do you need air to run around the deck of a Star Destroyer in space?
-Why are data transfers done with RJ45 and IDE connectors? Where's the WiFi?
-Why did they name that new droid after an '80s Metal band?
-So that's what those blue slots on R2D2's front plate were for
-Why can't Zorii Bliss take off her helmet like everyone else?
-Advice to the Empire...Going forward, just give the Stormtroopers shotguns
-Ghost Luke walking out of the flaming Tie Fighter is the funniest thing I've seen in a movie all year
Soulless product with hollow and dumb plot (snake under the sand with the dagger, wtf). This is what you got when you create movies based on fanservice and merchandise demands.
The characters are shouting to each other non-stop, no arc, no development, no weight of their actions (Oh, Chewie died... no he did not. OK.)
JJ wanted to undo everything what Rian Johnson in TLJ did. It's silly when you see the clash of the directors in a trilogy. They could have just do a friendly box match and leave us out of it.
Basically we got a third trilogy of SW that ends the same: Palpatine zaps himself with his lightnings. Very "creative".
It was really bad, I was embarrassed watching this.
"May the Force be with you."
Poor script, poor characters... Nothing new in StarWars.
Well, at least it’s better than Attack of the Clones.
1 of 2 movies I saw on the big screen in 2020. Not worth it, if you love Star Wars, please don't watch it.
ignore the haters, just go and watch on disney+.
I rewatched The Rise of Skywalker the other day in honor of May the Fourth. I've been steadily rewatching the franchise (as I basically always am) and as I made my way back through it I was hit in the face with a bag of bricks with a realization: all these movies are good to varying degrees, but if you want to look at each trilogy as its own entity it becomes absolutely fascinating. The original trilogy is a fan favorite. It has two of the strongest entries of the whole deal and it gets bonus points for kicking off this absolute unit. But it also feels extraordinarily limited at times, not by technology but in an understanding for how a universe can exist. This is through no fault of the films or the talent behind them, who could have really known what Star Wars would become? I think my most nuclear take at this point, though, is that the prequel trilogy is actually lowkey the best trilogy. It's the most consistent, it builds world the best, introduced the best memes, and feels like an incredibly cohesive three film arc, particularly if you start considering Obi-Wan as protagonist and think of it as some tragic arc. Everyone sort of recognizes Revenge of the Sith as a good film, but the way all three of those films move is dynamic in a way that makes me absolutely mourn how blockbusters used to function.
And then we get to the sequel trilogy. It's definitely the most uneven of the whole lot. But in being uneven, you introduce variance. And in the case of the sequel trilogy, that means you get the highest highs (The Last Jedi is unquestionably the best entry in the entire franchise. Yes, I will explain that in another post. And no, your opinion does not supersede mine). But you also get the lowest lows: enter Rise of Skywalker.
The issue with this movie boils down to how everyone treated Episode VIII. It gave everyone cold feet on how to move forward because not only did Solo underperform at the box office, but it was also happening in the wake of the whole DC Universe thing crashing and burning which was happening alongside the Dark Universe failing to even launch. Studios were suddenly aware that their franchises, regardless of how big and produced they felt, might suck--financially and critically. And so, after all this happened and Disney also saw the shifting perspective of Trevorrow we witnessed one of the harshest pivots I've ever seen in a sequel. The Last Jedi works because of how it subverts expectation for how a second entry in a trilogy operates. So many plot threads were seemingly resolved. Luke is dead, Snoke is dead, Rey's parentage was revealed (and yes, her being nobody is much more interesting by a country mile). It set up the then theoretical Episode IX to be something entirely new because it seemed like it would be much more difficult to just be some retread of anything we'd seen before. And instead, Disney and Abrams and Kennedy seemed to get cold feet.
The Rise of Skywalker feels like two movies smashed into one. And so my biggest question becomes: if they were going to pivot this hard, why not just make two movies? You don't need to retcon anything. Just have the Skywalker Saga end not with a trilogy, but a quadrilogy. I mean, hell, even call it Rise of Skywalker Part 1 and Part 2 to keep it technically as a trilogy, a la Tarantino on Kill Bill. I doubt anyone would have really been upset they needed to go see another Star Wars movie in theaters. And it would have easily fixed the biggest issue in the finished product: the pacing.
I'm an editor. Pacing is something I'm always tracking and clocking. It's chief amongst any editor's concerns when piecing together the movie after everything is shot. And Rise of Skywalker's pacing isn't whack just because of how quickly it moves, but because of how many elements it introduces and then immediately moves on from. When Disney announced this was the end of the Skywalker Saga, I immediately assumed we'd see a long movie. I'm never really upset to have a theatrical experience like that either. And Disney themselves proved fans will turn out in droves to see long movies with Endgame, so when the runtime for Episode IX came in ten minutes shorter than Episode VIII, you could say I was confused. adding a half hour to this movie would remedy so many issues with it (although you should also excise everything Palpatine here too).
And it's weird because everyone's biggest echo was that the sequel trilogy felt so unsure of itself. And Disney had an opportunity to use everything set up in VII and VIII to prove that as absolutely false. There was a great thread running through the sequel trilogy that the old blood and old ways have a tendency to repeat the past mistakes and that rebellion and greatness can come from anyone. And they reneged on it. They had a great throughline of pushing the story out of realms we'd seen before: new lightsabers, new planet types, a side of the galaxy that had been to that point unexplored (Rose and the Codebreaker are such good characters because they are actual laypersons, two sides of just trying to see the next day). But instead we got a package where Rey's power only comes from her parentage, Kylo Ren gets a redemption because so did Vader, rogues who seem uninterested show up because they've got good hearts. And Rey just...chooses to claim Skywalker, despite being associated with both Vader and Kylo Ren?
Listen. If you look at The Rise of Skywalker in a more isolationist perspective, it's really not that bad. It's still a hell of a lot of fun and has some really great worldbuilding to it. I liked the idea of settlements. I liked seeing the aftermath of the Death Star crashing onto a planet. I liked the idea of a Sith homeworld (even though Palpatine shouldn't be there). It had a focus on adventuring that hasn't really been seen in the movies which are usually much more conflict based than exploratory. So there's things peppered throughout that seem to be less concerned with wrapping up the Skywalker Saga, and more with being a love letter to the franchise to show how much more juice it has in it. And I'm cool with all that. I think it does a good job at proving that it exists less as a series and more as a series set within an entire universe. It might put a bow on one massive story, but there's so much more to explore. It has a good mouth feel, if that makes sense.
(Warning: "Minor" rant incoming... :D)
Oh man, WTF did I just watch? Not sure what Star Wars is about anymore... I really wonder how they come up with those crazy ideas. I assume it must take a lot of brainstorming sessions. Watching this felt like they tried out a lot of different ideas simply because they could but didn't ask themselves if they should. It also felt like watching a lot of different movies (dark scenes with light flashes form DC, comedy by Marvel, drama from Romeo and Juliet, some fight scenes from The Matrix, etc.).
I tried to excuse a lot of tings during the first two movies but let's face it: IMO the story has become really bad really fast (I mean the first 6 movies had to be better, right?).
Anyway, the CGI was still great (but now I get why some hate CGI - but please don't, CGI is simply a tool and the hate should target those that try to hide a bad story with CGI and not the amazing CGI artists).
Whilst still serviceable, 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' disappointed me - it makes for a relatively limp finish to the sequel trilogy.
The plot is the biggest letdown. It's all over the place, it might have a good amount of action but the actual point of the film is uninteresting and feels like something we've seen before. The cast still do well amongst all that, but I can't say I'll remember a performance from this.
With that said, Daisy Ridley is the best thing about it. Adam Driver is fine, but his character doesn't interest me much at this point. John Boyega and Oscar Isaac felt underused, while Kelly Marie Tran is discarded almost completely. Richard E. Grant is a slight upgrade on Domhnall Gleeson, but not by much.
A shorter run time may have helped this, instead it feels kinda bloated and without much reasoning to be so. I don't dislike it, it's still just about what I'd describe as good, but given it's part of 'Star Wars' it should've been far greater - in my opinion, at least.
"This will be the final word in the story of Skywalker."
I am not sure I know what I want in a Star Wars movie anymore. There are days I think they are going in the right direction, and there are others where I think I am not as big of a fan as I used to be. Either way I am glad that the storyline was able to get to an end, and am now excited to see where the tv shows can lead us.
I'm not a Star Wars aficionado but its a damn gorgeous movie. Is it my favorite no? Watch again yes. There were things I did not know existed in the Star Wars universe I'm guessing that's what people have problems with.
A good conclusion to the Star Wars third trilogy. That being said it’s a complete mess.
This should please everybody that hated episode eight.
But this is fluff that we could do without, and highlights why George Lucas And writer and Lawrence Kasdan are the masters.
It’s a Star Wars film by name, and Adam Driver saves the film.
A good conclusion to the Star Wars third trilogy. That being said it’s a complete mess.
This should please everybody that hated episode eight.
But this is fluff that we could do without, and highlights why George Lucas And writer and Lawrence Kasdan are the masters.
It’s a Star Wars film by name, and Adam Driver saves the film.
Well that's it, right? Definitely end. All the ghosts that could come out have already come out.
I actually did it. Despite telling everyone I know, I'll never see this movie, I abandoned my principles. Well, that and I pay for Disney+ anyway. So, what the h***, right ? So, did I like it ? Not particularly. Do I hate it ? Same Answer. Truth be told I didn't expect anything.
First of, I felt I was sitting in front of the TV for at least three hours and was surprised it was way less. Is that a good thing ? I don't know. And I still feel they could loose an hour of the movie if the cut all the crap out. Visually it was great, althought at times overloaded. Which is true for many movies nowadays. But seriously, why? A hundred Star Destroyers are not impressive enough ? Let's make it one thousand ! You know what, it's CGI. Once we have the model they cost only pennies. So here's ten thousand (I didn't count them but I want to make a point). Same goes for the resistance fleet coming to the rescue. And those grand scenes where your character becomes a pin tip that is hard to make out. All this just to make the audience awe and to reflect from the fact that there is little content.
Because the story is all over the place with no real direction. Everything is coppled together. Is this the movie they wanted to make in the first place or is it them trying to plug the holes in the dam that came after TLJ? Everyone insists Johnson's movie didn't change a thing but I have my doubts. From my point it was a bad decision bringing Palpatine back. The way they did it with just the line in the opening text. Maybe do a flashback how he survived the fall, who found him, how he got to where he is. But he did little for me at all, that chapter closed with ROTJ. It was literally beating a dead horse. And with every scene and twist they try to climb one more step on the ladder to make something grand, not realizing they already went overboard two steps below.
How many times do we need to see a fight between Rey and Kylo ? Plus those fights were awful. Look at the Duel of the Fates or the Anakin vs Obi Wan on Mustafar as a template. They were full of intensity and emotion. Here it was one-two-three- STOP. Change position, repeat. I know a dozen vids on youtube with better choreographie.
And please do remind us another half dozen times that we are in this together because I am not sure I got it. Spanning the whole trilogy I didn't connect with any of the main characters at all. Which is another factor why this whole sequel is not for me.
In the end it is Star Wars as imagined by Disney. It's a benchmark at what is visually possible and at the same time an excample of what to avoid.
Now, I wrote a lot about something I didn't care about at first, didn't I ? I care for the franchise, but not for this sequels. I tried to see them as something seperate, removed from the Lucas movies. But even that didn't help. While TFA was not bad (or maybe it was the enjoyment of new SW getting the better of me) Ep.8 and Ep.9 are just not good movies.
Like everything I write it's my personal opinion. I don't attack people who like the movie so please grand me the same courtesy.
May the Force be with us.
@andreas1138
you wanted my opinion but it is not favorable.
Concerning Ren, I never liked him as his story is flawed to begin with. He wanted to continue Vader's work. But Vader came to the realisation that ultimately he was on the wrong side, killed Palpatine, and by that fullfilling the Prophecy and bring balance to the Force. He became Anakin again. Up to this point Vader was the ultimate evil. Kylo a wanna-be. He didn't understand Vader because if he had he would not have idealized him.
The only thing that bothered me in this movie was that Rey renounced her parents' name who died to protect her. It's disrespectful and honestly she disappointed me, so I like her a little less now. I really thought she would see her parents and not Luke and Leia. I know Skywalkers are all gone now and the writers wanted someone to continue the legacy, but she could've just added the Skywalker name to the Palpatine and be Rey Palpatine Skywalker, that way she would be honoring both her parents and the Skywalkers and it would be a much better ending.
I'm not as mad this time round as opposed to after I watched it the first time, maybe that's down to knowing how the story in this film plays out, therefore making it a softer pill to swallow. However, my overall rating of Episode XI hasn't changed dramatically on a second viewing, this still feels ABSOLUTELY HOLLOW! A husk of a Star Wars movie, that ultimately leaves you wanting Disney to sweep this entire trilogy under the rug and begin again, only this time get Lucas back as Head Writer and for the love of God, plan the fucking ending of the trilogy first, that way all three films work story wise as opposed to spit-balling plots and characters archs just like this sorry ass trilogy did.
It is very predictable and corny but I think it is a good movie, thus my rate. I found it a little longer than it should be. The plot is OK and the performances are good. Oscar Isaac does a very great job in the new trilogy. I really never connected with Rey but I didn't dislike her either. And John Williams deserves every single award in this planet.
So much better than the Comedy that was Last Jedi. Still not a fantastic film, being full of fan service, MacGuffins, and things just happen without much reason. It does, however, have some great visuals, and clean up of the threads from the last film. Still some failed plot points, but meh. Would have liked to see Rey delve deeper into the dark side... While not great, it was an entertaining conclusion.
J.J. Abrams y u do dis?
This movie was an uninspired ending to this new trilogy. It tried to do many things but couldn't finish them.
If Rey accidentally killed Chewie, it would have been an incredibly powerful scene; but no, it was just to get a reaction from the audience.
If Rey and Ben got together, we could have explored something like grey jedi; but no, he dies right after
Also, in the previous movies (and in the start of this one) we are shown how Rey is better at fighting with her staff rather than the lightsaber. Why, why not give her a dual lightsaber (Darth Maul inspired) instead of the classic (even if iconic) one?
The first thing I really disliked was the opening crawl text. I really felt like I had missed a movie. Too many facts are just narrated in a few lines of text at the start without showing them happening.
The plot felt all over the place for me. It wasn't that coherent, it's like they had a series of checkboxes to tick. Also way too many deus ex machina. There's a point in which saying "the force" isn't enough.
The visuals though, were amazing. Probably the best one of the new trilogy. Great scenery and really well done visual effects. Top notch.
Same thing for the actors. While the script wasn't amazing IMO (but it's Star Wars, dialogue was never its strong suit), the cast acted really well. I really liked Adam Driver in particular.
In the end, I wish it could have been done better. It opened with many interesting plots, but wasn't able to tie them together properly. Maybe a trilogy as big as this one should have been planned better?
6/10
amazing graphics enjoyed watching it
Okay so this one I actually liked, one of the better ones from modern star wars.
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - what a great name for a Star Wars movie. All the expectations, all the potential… ok it is just to obvious in what direction this is going to.
In a nutshell: I found myself with this "But why?" expression on my face in front of my TV. There is this one weird point I don't get about the reboot (sorry, but this is just a mash-up of episode 4-6) of the Star Wars franchise. On the one hand they made these spin-off movies like Rogue one. Good movie - seriously. I had the worst expectations after episode 7 but this one was a movie I enjoyed. Mandalorian - fine, too… and than they release this. What bugs me around most is that they can do it better but for some reason they fail - three times in a row. I'm not going into the detail here, it is not about acting (ok, maybe a bit…), style, CGI, or whatever. It is the writing (and to some point) and directing what messed up the whole thing.
This movie was whiplash in the worst way. Let's somehow take all the things people didn't like in the last movie and take them in the exact opposite direction so fans are happy. Amd that's all this movie felt like, a last ditch effort to just throw in things fan will like in order to save the series. I honestly would have preferred some continuity and things making sense over what felt like fan fiction. Rey and Finn, but now Finn and Rose, and now Finn and some random new chick? Then there seems to be chemistry between Rey and Poe and just as that builds let's add a past lover as a completely unrequited ridiculous love interest to halt that in its tracks. And just for good measure let's add a kiss with Ben to please the fans. It was just all over the place and I really wanted to like it because I love Star Wars. I stuck by the first movie despite its problems. I even stuck my the second movie despite its ruining of Luke and yet I just can't seem to do it anymore. I really wish we could just rewrite this and hit redo.
A film that wants to end a trilogy, even a story that spans 9 films and series. And yes, an end is being told. Unfortunately, whether this end is historically or technically good is a completely different question. With a running time of over two hours, it is not short, but it seems very rushed all the time. That would not have been necessary. Instead of writing a meaningful story, J.J. Abrams skid from one plot device to the next and manages - even more than part 8 - to lead a fantastic, but often at least consistent, story to the end of a crash landing, at the end of which the heroes celebrate over the burning wreck. Starting from the feeble-minded search for Sith Wayfinders, that Palpatine of course made if the postman would like to send a forwarding order, via this dagger that was also forged so that it works as a fold-out route map from exactly this random point on the meadow to the ultra-great fleet full of star destroyers (This time they at least deserve the name) which are unfortunately only controlled by this one navigation signal. There are simply too many plotholes & nonsensical plot devices in this story that even unbiased moviegoers can only shake their heads and wonder how one could not criticize this story during the pre-screenings.
The next point that catches your eye in this great story is the scenes in which it becomes clear that J.J. and Rian Johnson will probably never meet friendly again. Yes, part 8 was "different" in feeling and had its own problems. But at least it continued the story. In its best moments, episode 9 pretends that part 8 does not exist and in its worse moments he literally makes fun of scenes from the previous film. Everyone can have their personal aversions, but being so unprofessional that with your anger ruining the finale of the world's largest franchise requires a very special level of arrogance.
On the other hand, the technology and effects are on the good side. Again there are some nice pictures and scenes that inspire the inclined fan, even if the fan service takes up too much space. At the end of the saga, you can still accept some pictures that are bursting with pathos with a smile. Quite simple shots like the picture of the TIE Fighter next to the X-Wing at the entrance of the Sith Temple reflect the struggle of the two groups Rebels vs Imperium, which has now been going on for so many years, so wonderfully quiet.
Many other things could be mentioned, especially the list of completely brain-torn logic holes and Deus Ex Machinas could be continued for almost any length of time, but that has already been done enough elsewhere. For me it is the end of the new trilogy, which I look at quite detached from the original trilogy. It is easy entertainment and unfortunately with this film the first time that I came out of the cinema completely underwhelmed and just didn't feel anything. I still really like the universe and the stories behind it - only the official films of episodes 7-9 are quite unnecessary waste of time apart from a few scenes and storylines. Too bad. 4/10
This one is horrible... I've seen soap operas with a much better dialogue. And about the plot? THERE ISN'T ONE!!!!
Why did it have to be so long? It was painful
Browsing Ebay by the end
I'm guessing a lot of the commenters are younger and not from the original trilogy. This one ended with the classic Star Wars ending, except they stole our happy ending. Rey and Ben should've ended together, but they had to end with the just the 3 like in the original instead of ending it the way it "started". Love story to tragedy to heroism to love story. Hell couldn't even end with Ben standing there with Luke and Leia.
Yes, still gave it a 9. Just missed the call on the ending
Why the hate with this saga? sometimes I don't understand what fans want.
I mean, at least she’s good looking...
OMG What a Dumpsterfire :o .. and I though they couldn't get worse after TLJ.
You cannot make a movie by just cramping in content. You cannot expect people to enjoy a sequel by neglecting all the basic fiction physics that were built in all previous movies. You cannot have impressive scenes by rushing from one to the next. You cannot create a plot by sticking together random events.
And then they have the nerve to talk about fan service. Just making old characters appear in random places does not serve fans. It's just cheap bait to lure people into the cinema.
I have lost track of these stuff a very long time ago, i cannot keep up on what is a sequel, a prequel, a continue story, a parallel story and everything is on the altar of the franchise and money. So just for the movie. Not that bad. i cannot comment on what i have actually seen in terms of the saga but it was a blockbuster with full of battles , some stupid decisions, jokes so we can satisfy the kids and Disney, and Rey as the new superman. The force is not Harry Potter. At least we didn't have a lot of that douche-bag and totally untalented actor Mark Hamill.
The fan service is strong with this one. So strong, in fact, that it generates a few cringeworthy moments where the plot and logic are sacrificed for some quick feelz.
Still, I have to give J.J. credit. Rian Johnson left him with a lot of bad lemons in various stages of rot and decay, and J.J. managed to make a pretty good pitcher of lemonade out of some of it. Yes, there were some lemons that were completely tossed aside, but that was the best thing to do with them.
And as much as I continue to hate what he did to the Star Trek franchise, I do believe that J.J. truly grasps what Lucas was always trying to build here. Johnson mistakenly believed that there was room in Star Wars for a lot of navel-gazing and uncertainty and gray, but it's ALWAYS been about good versus bad in a simple Saturday afternoon matinee sort of way. And J.J. understands that really well. So while there were not a lot of profound moments here, that was a good thing since it got things back to their roots and brought it all home in the end.
There will always be room for grayness and ambiguity and uncertainty in my movie diet, but there's also plenty of room for Star Wars as Lucas built it and as J.J. so lovingly continued it. So props to Abrams here. Just, you know, keep him the hell away from Trek.
terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible
What a mess...
No arc, no logic, cheap twists. The only arc that is present in the new trilogy is that - TFA was mediocre, TLJ was disappointing, and the last one is just painful to watch.
The only Star Wars movie from the Disney that I may recommend is Rogue One. At least it was original, had some logic and sense in it, interesting characters.
The worst ending for the best epic saga. The 3 main characters - Rey, Poe and Finn are unmatched to the likes of of Luke Skywalker, Hans Solo and Lando. Even the Emperor Palpatine is not as evil as the earlier Emperor. The final battle was far less thrilled and not as glorious as the final battle in Return of the Jedi. A very BIG disappointment. My overall rating for this movie 6. Would have been lesser if the movie is without Kylo Ren and the special appearances of Lando and Hans Solo.
A film filled with some great moments and a relentless pace, it is also hamstrung by two key decisions that should have been struck down as pure fan fiction. Firstly, the decision to bring back Palpatine as the key villain narratively might have worked if the film had been building up to this moment, yet it is thrown in with barely any explanation or setup at the start and only serves to leave a huge amount of plot and story barely explained as well as weaken the previous films, given that his inclusion is clearly intended to link to previous entries in the saga. Unfortunately, the filmmakers then double down on this error in trying to link Rey to this character, a decision that comes completely out of nowhere and can surely only stem from the backlash to The Last Jedi.
It’s a shame because there is much to like in this film - anything with Leia is extremely well done given the situation the filmmakers find themselves in ; most of the cameos from the original trilogy are very well done although Luke it seems is particularly wasted especially given the potential from the previous film. Also, when the film does focus on its key characters, notably the relationship between Rey and Kylo, it works extremely well. There are some great action beats within the film, usually involving these two central characters and both give great performances. The resolution to both their arcs is largely well conceived, but its in marrying this with the bizarre decision to bring back Palpatine that ultimately it doesn’t work as well as it should. Frankly it is a real shame that having been given carte blanche with The Last Jedi to bring the focus onto Rey and Kylo, the film feels the needs to rely on another character that has not even figured in the last two films when one of the great things about these new sequels was the new characters that had been introduced.
As an ending to the sequel trilogy, it is the weakest of the three, but as an ending to the whole Skywalker saga it can’t help but be hugely disappointing.
So long story short. The movie was trash. It is literally the result of Hollywood trying imbed identity politics where it doesn't below. First they added a black guy at the beginning of the series. Okay that was fine. He played the role well enough. And then they added a woman. They turned her into a superwoman but she simply could not do basic things like actually acting. Ben is bad a**. We love vilan Ben. Nope, they turned him into a fruit cake because you know what women empowerment. Ben either loses so she can superwoman or Ben get forced into submission. So he did. At the end there were two women kissing. Okay Hollywood. We saw what you did there. We got it. A confused little girl who just found out she got powers yesterday brought down the dark forces. Why couldn't they leave the story alone? Why? Why? I am so annoyed.
This movie made no sense. The resurrection, Rey's background, the ending. It was all over the place with absolutely no sense of continuity. And the most confusing parts are only there for fan service and have nothing to do with the continuing plot. It was a frustrating crash ending to a failing trilogy that started off with such potential.
Terrible.. Cheesy.. Predictable & twist failure
Oh, how the might hath fallen.
There isn't anything I can say that hasn't been stretched out to a two hour YouTube analysis video, but the state of Star Wars is depressing to say the least, and Disney knows it. The High Republic project they just announced is a direct response to the fans' disdain for this entire sequel trilogy and it's disrespect to the last six films. You have grade-A talent on display, in front and behind the camera, and the result is a two film story squished in to two hours, strung together with some of the most headache inducing pacing I've seen in a major studio film. Ian is wasted as the great Emperor Palpatine, John has no arcs as Finn, Daisy has the same expression she's had in the last two films, stonefaced and Pennywise, and Oscar Isaac wished they killed his character off in the first film so he wouldn't have to do the next two. The only thing I can feel during the final scene at Luke's old home on Tatooine is heartbreak. Hearing John Williams' brilliant last score for the series (and probably just a few years before he dies, he's so old), but coupled with the imagery of Rey taking the spot for herself feels so unearned and lost potential. Had our main lead been written with so much more thought and consistency, it could be a real heart tugger like it's meant to by, but all it does for me is remind me how the series has been ruined in just five short years. It's never explained who made the Sith wayfinders, who made the dagger, why they made the dagger, why they made it the way they did, who are the Knights of Ren, how did Palpatine come back, is he a clone, or is he the original version, how did he have all the resources to make like a thousand Star Destroyers (all with planet killing weapons), who are his faithful followers, what happened to the Republic that was destroyed in The Force Awakens, how did Han come back (was that really a memory or a vision, because it's never revealed Han could have force powers), why can force ghosts interact with the physical world, when did force healing become a thing, why is the Holdo maneuver one in a million, and so on. The film is a complete disaster when it comes to the writing, because it's very evident the film is a collection of twenty or so re-edits all with clashing ideas, in some desperate vein to get fans back on board after the abysmal The Last Jedi. But instead of digging themselves out of the coffin, they put the final nail in.
To start, I thought Force Awakens was fine, but not amazing. The Last Jedi, despite one subplot I thought was unneeded, I genuinely liked. The Rise of Skywalker... well, it's also fine. I really enjoyed some of the moments Kylo Ren and Rey had throughout the film (and I still think Kylo Ren was the strongest character of this trilogy), but the rest of the characters... eh, I still just had difficulty really developing much of a relationship with them. Some of the setpieces here were amazing and I was ok with Palpatine being the big bad. However, I really hope that Disney expands the universe of this trilogy further as there's so much lore I'd love to dive into that is only touched upon briefly throughout this film. At the end of the day, this was, again, fine (and I love the spectacle of the Star Wars universe), but it didn't do anything particularly groundbreaking or game-changing.
was it perfect? of course not. you can't cram everything into a 2 hour movie, but as someone who grew up on the original trilogy, as in saw them all when they originally came out in the theaters, i thought it wasn't too bad. i tend to be more into the sith/jedi stuff than all the other "filler" in these movies though, so as always i think there's never enough of that in these movies, and in this case i think there should been a lot more emperor scenes. this is the coolest he's ever looked and acted, and yet they didn't use him enough. even if they had to extend the movie say, another half hour to add a half hour more of the emperor I'd have loved it. would've also loved an emp/kylo fight.
The Rise of Skywalker had been on my "to watch" list even before it came out. Because of all the negative backlash this movie received, I never decided to watch it in the theaters. Recently, this movie was leaked online and as soon as it did, I decided it was time to give it a chance - despite everything that was being said and all the spoilers I accidentally read while browsing Reddit.
After watching the movie I began to think about things they could have made better, but I did enjoy it. Whether or not if it was because it was another Star Wars film has yet to be clear for me.
In the end, I felt that these movies could have been made better than what they were, as it opened up the possibility of introducing more threats than the ones we are far too familiar with in the Star Wars universe. For example - When Palpatine was revealed to be alive he could have introduced us to more Sith for Rey to face. Which makes sense in the end, since Kylo betrayed Palpatine and the Empire.
I just don't understand how Kylo Ren was the only Sith Rey had to face this entire time.
Also, Having Rey denounce her last name that her parents gave her, despite it being from a sinister origin , made me kinda lose some respect for her in the end. If she really wanted to have the Skywalker name she could have made it : Rey Skywalker Palpatine. Or Rey Palpatine Skywalker. Any way would have been fine.
Leia's CGI was terrible right for the get-go. It immediately felt like a recording from the previous movies, which I know was planned, and I believe they could have made it more convincing with the money they had. They pushed out the movies too soon and it leaves a bitter taste, just like GOT S8.
Its not the best star wars but is good
Much like its predecessor, The Rise of Skywalker is the fall of Star Wars.
2 / 2 directing & technical aspect
.5 / 1 story
1 / 1 act I
1 / 1 act II
1 / 1 act III
1 / 1 acting
1 / 1 writing
0 / 1 originality
0 / 1 lasting ability to make you think
1 / 1 misc (best installment)
8.5 / 10
I'm not a fan, so I can understand why some people loved it and some people hated it. Fanboys will whine, but Abrams hit the nail on the head with this one. Not only did he improve on the original's humor and writing, he improved on the sequels' direction and cinematorgraphy. Fun movie, good finale, best one.
The movie is just awful. It's like a 12 year old watched the original movies and cobbled together a superficial remake using every cliche known.
Then somehow got a mega budget for special effects.
The writing and characters are just so lame as to to be almost completely without substance.
Are there no adults involved in production of major motion pictures anymore?
The franchise became chaotic and messy from all the backpedaling after fan criticism. Because of this, the 3rd trilogy feels incoherent and without a clear vision, which damages the overall story. This last part is still a good and enjoyable film, especially in the blockbuster 'genre', but it can't rise above (no pun intended) it's competition.
Me: But, what about the plot holes?
Disney: What about them?
Such boring movie, as expected from Disney
Well, at least it's still going to make great demo media for UHD TV sets...
Very much felt like watching an entire season of a show with just the exciting bits left in without any balancing dramatic interplay. Very much Disney movies become more like their themed rides which are bumpy and enjoyable but with little heart and soul. It brought about resolution after watching the first one in the cinema when it came out I suppose, and is the lightest touch of Wagnerian space opera. For that in its simple form it excels. My favourite movies will be the first three made, and bizarrely enough, Rogue One which I dismissed at the time as pointless, but now I feel excels all the rest even with the Plasticine Tarkin. The future of the Star Wars universe is now in the serial form, not movie, and it is here now it is, and will, be best rendered. 6/10.
Well did i expect better? Yes, of course i did. Is this a movie worth remembering? Nope. Was it a great watch? It was fun for a single watch, u can't go back to it ever again cuzz its just by the numbers stuff!
Where to begin? Where to end? These were not questions that were asked with any sincerity when these films were begun, and it's impossible to review them without getting into meta-commentary about the production, because that's where most of the drama resides.
These three films are simply not a trilogy. They are three films that ended up with two directors-- the first whom was contracted to make a nostalgia-bait remake of A New Hope for the demographic bloc that Disney thought they could siphon the most credits from, retconning everything in the saga up to that point for the safest remake landscape possible as the shareholders saw it --and the second, who set out to sabotage the efforts and plot threads of the preceding film so he could make his own "subversion" of it and its characters, while prematurely ending the saga in the middle. Then the first yes-man had to try to course-correct and recreate and finish a trilogy in a single film, while trying to pander harder and reel back in fans who had been, or had become soured to the whole mishandled endeavor since the release of the first film.
There is no way any of this could have ended well, and, unsurprisingly, it ended up destroying Star Wars more thoroughly than it would have if they had actually had a plan going forward from TFA's reboot of the universe, and the film we got was a frenetic, nonsensical mess, even for a JJ Abrams film. But hey, it does want you to like it! As skull-achingly stupid as all three of the scripts have been, this one is the most like a puppy that just wants you to like it, and it is genuinely cute for about a collective 5 minutes of the run time.
But that puppy is the size of Clifford, has developed rabies, and has just crashed through the roof of your house after you CALLED IT AND WENT TO SEE ALL OF THE MOVIES IN THEATRES, THIS IS YOUR FAULT, OKAY, THIS IS NO LONGER AN ANALOGY.
STOP GIVING MONEY TO MASSIVE CORPORATIONS TO TRASH EVERY LAST BIT OF CULTURE WE HAVE!
J.J. Abrams returns to complete the third Star Wars trilogy with Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker. In the wake of Supreme Leader Snoke’s death former emperor Palpatine announces his return, leading Rey and a group of rebels to go in search of the Sith world Exogol; where Palpatine and his fleet are staging an attack. Abrams and his writing team do a good job at correcting Rian Johnson’s foul-ups in The Last Jedi, and at resolving the story threads begun in The Force Awakens. Additionally, Ian McDiarmid’s return brings a new energy to the series and Carrie Fisher is worked into the film impressive well using previously unused footage. And the special effects and action scenes are incredibly well-done. While it’s not the Star Wars film to ends all Star Wars films, Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker is an exciting and action-packed space adventure.
They should rename this film
DON'T ASK QUESTIONS: A STAR WARS STORY
There is so much I could write about this nightmare of a production, but I think the general consensus surrounding it summarizes my feelings more, especially from the "fandom menace." How a world class beloved A-list brand like Star Wars could reach this point in it's lifespan, no better than a Sci-fi channel film, completely baffles me. In less than 4 years, Disney was able to grab such a loved property and turn off every audience member imaginable from ever investing in it again. In just 3 films, fans are now crawling back to George Lucas asking him to redeem the saga and asking for forgiveness for all their words about the prequel trilogy. The cynic in me just says they deserve this. They were so quick to throw Lucas under the bus and put the mouse on a pedestal of, "Oh, look at how great Marvel and the Avengers are! Surely Mr. Iger and Lucasfilm can "return Star Wars to it's former glory" now that it's out of that George "Special Edition" Lucas' hands!" The rose tinted glasses were rip torn from the blind fans faces with Rian Johnson's subversion fueled train wreck of a movie that derailed any semblance of cohesion the trilogy may have had, which there wasn't and there was no plan day one, exposing the rat underneath the sheath of painted glass that was being fed to the general audiences. But with Solo bombing, it finally cemented what state the brand was in for the viewing eyes, that Disney had force feed way too much bad way too quickly and was able to dilute a classic property in to the ground, the actual red negatives in stock and profit. Toys began collecting dust on shelves, Toys R' Us went out of business, hurting merchandise moves even more, and events around the world cancelled in wake of diminishing interest in this brand. It failed to please the OT fans. It failed to please the prequel fans. And most importantly, it failed to attract a new audience of youth, like what fandom Star Wars had garnered when it first premiered in 1977. The series by 2018 had reached a point of no return. No one was on board anymore except for the extreme die hards. This fate is something not uncommon though, unfortunately, anymore. Time and again this decade, Hollywood has declared it's war to market as many nostalgia properties as possible because originality when given monumentous blockbusters budgets, which is the standard now, is not encouraged. So the familiar is the norm, while the challenging is to the way side. The only solution, given the failure of such like Voltron, Ghostbusters, and the success of Joker, is hopefully the heads will learn to start lowering it's budgets are trusting it's creative leads. Because I can't think of a more better example of everything wrong with Hollywood and the current system of moviemaking than The Rise Of Skywalker. I know that's a phrase tossed around a lot now, "this film is everything wrong with [FILL IN THE BLANK]," but this latest J.J. "Trek" Abrams bombshell of a fanservice, retcon baffling shitstorm is the embodiment of it all. If any of you want to point from this day forward what happened to cinema in the 2010's, this is the ultimate lead up to it all. What a perfect way to end 2019, with the most corporate driven, committee driven, test screen driven, pandering garbage to ever been conceived by Hollywood. The entire premise of the film is to walk back what everyone hated about The Last Jedi, which even though that received glowing praise from the "critics," which have now all been debunked as shills looking for publicity, the audience and majority of fans were then rallied to talk about how this film went wrong and what it meant for the rest of the series. Disney became well aware of the reception, and especially the financial bomb of Solo: A Star Wars Story, so Rise had an unachievable challenge. It had to answer questions from the previous two films, wrap up all remaining open arcs, which there were a shit load of them, tell it's own story, create a satisfying conclusion to all 9 films in the saga, and still be a coherent, fun experience. It achieved none of them. Nothing in the movie makes any sense, not even joking or playing dumb. It has so many balls to juggle and consistently drops them at every turn, it becomes embarrassing, hilarious, then boring, and then depressing to watch. I was sitting watching in like an empty void of sadness and disbelief that something I used to love so much be reduced to this, all because of a lack of planning and bad decision making from every angle, starting back in 2014. If J.J. had for just a minute listening to George's story plan and stopped using his story breaking "mystery box" technique, maybe we could be here this year with something that's passable. Not good, passable. The film opens with Palpatine back. No reason. He's just back. Turns out he created Snoke himself and he has cryo tubes full of more. I'm not even kidding, it's hilarious. He also has an entire army of Death Star Destroyers, like thousands of them, that he controls by hand. He raises them up out of the ground. He's lifted around by a Glad0s crane. He looks younger than he did in Return of the Jedi. Don't ask questions. Leia's CG reused footage is horrible. Rey is incredibly overpowered in this movie. The wayfinder shit is boring and tedious. There's no reason for Lando to be there. Nothing about the force use in the movie makes sense. The transfer of life energy makes no sense. Kylo putting his helmet back together, why? Don't ask questions. Rey kisses Kylo after he saves her. Why? Don't ask questions. Rey goes to Tatooine, she somehow knows it's there, and makes that her new home. Why? Don't ask questions. She adopts the name Rey Skywalker. Why? I'm done with that. So many things happen in this film that require you to suspend your disbelief, you will detach and the film will exhaust, and then make you cackle and howl with laughter at the absurdity of what happens. The fact they had to bring Sheev Palpatine at all because Snoke was out of the picture just screams desperate. It's backtracking retconning to make Snoke seem like less of an important factor in the previous two films. I guess you can just clone force users now. How? Don't ask questions. They bring back Palpatine just so Rey can one up him in the same film. They completely take away Anakin's redemption and Sacrifice and Luke's journey, just so Rey can have all the glory. Kylo dies, so the Skywalker lineage just ends. What a slap in the face.
"I am all of the Sith." - a wasted Ian McDiarmid
"No! I'm all the Jedi." - a Mary Sue
The exposition dumps and lack of motivation in the story makes this truly the spectacle of chaotic awfulness that can't even be ranked higher than The Room. What's the point of this story? Really, why are we here? What is the goal of this? What set up was there for this? There was none. There was no road map. There's no moral, no intrigue, no grand vision, no borrowing and inspiration from classic serials like Lucas was. Nothing artistic or respectable about this waste of human resources and time. This is a film made for everyone, but pleases no one.
May the 2020's bring about the death of fake nerd culture! Give comics back to the real nerds!
As a concluding movie of an epic 9 movie saga - this was a great ending. It was very satisfying to see the whole arc concluded in this manor especially when after Return of the Jedi we thought we'd never get to see the rest of the story. I do have one slight complaint tho - a lot of the action scenes were very reminiscent of the previous movies and therefore just a little boring to watch. But overall, still a great movie.
The writers gave up on this. It feels like there was so much pressure from the studio that the story was generated by an AI who has no idea what the rules of this universe are.
Evidently upset by Rian Johnson's contribution to the series in The Last Jedi, JJ Abrams has returned to the Star Wars universe to set the record straight, often directly contradicting the plot points and character arcs set in motion by the preceding film. That makes for an awkward sort of arm wrestling competition, as Johnson himself often seemed intent upon bucking the conventions established by earlier chapters in the franchise. In other words, "you undid my work, now I'm going to undo yours."
The result, in this case, is an overstuffed mammoth of a film that tries to do too much while also, somehow, accomplishing very little. Not the first time a Skywalker film has been messy, but the lack of enthusiasm and excitement is certainly new. Even in the much-maligned prequels, there was something unique and special about seeing a Star Wars movie. This time, despite the enormous budget, eight films' worth of lead-in, tons of new environments and alien races, plus constant callbacks to please the die-hards, the final product is rather bland and pedestrian. And that's probably the most damning thing I could say about it. This isn't the grand conclusion to a generations-long space epic, it's just a nondescript, run-of-the-mill science fiction shelf-filler with a billion-dollar sheen. It's a mass of writer's room concepts, tossed into a tumbler and belched out onto the screen without much connective tissue.
Episode IX does have successful moments. The law of averages says, given enough options, something's bound to stick. Yet, even when they hit upon a winner, Abrams and company's lack of conviction, their reluctance to take a risk and get firmly behind any one direction, lessens the meaning of the whole. How disappointing that it's come to this.
3 Thoughts After Watching ‘Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker’:
It was definitely fun (how could it not be?), but I was hoping for a little more finality to what‘s supposed to be the end of the Skywalker saga. It would’ve been nice to see Rey training a new generation of Jedi with Finn as one of the teachers.
I reeeaaally missed Yoda in this one, but loved that the Emperor had one final stake in the story. He’s been such a driving force since the beginning.
Rey is such a great character - and I would say her presence was just as epic as Luke’s in the original films. I enjoyed the other newbies, but nobody reached Han/Leia status. And Kylo/Ben was a little lacking from start to finish. Ultimately, the new trilogy wasn’t perfect - but it was a fun ride through a wonderfully-nostalgic and iconic world.
I quite liked the movie. It was not as Disney cutesy as the previous new episodes. Also did conclude most of the story in a quite satisfactory way. Sad though that this was it. Story was fine. Not everything was perfect but well made. Definitely enjoyed it and was happy that it did not end in a happy-ever-after Disney fashion. :wink:
As the concluding episode of what Disney terms a 'saga', The Rise of Skywalker carries with it the weight of ten previous entries as well as having to resolve the tension between pleasing the sort of fans who complain vociferously online if new films don't reach their internal visions and the need to innovate and break out of the well-worn formulas so comforting to the denizens of Reddit. The extremely vocal reaction to perceived insults to the fan community in Rian Johnson's The Last Jedi must have weighed heavily on the decision makers at Disney as, after much-publicised ruction behind the scenes, they decided to re-hire JJ Abrams, whose The Force Awakens was little more than a shiny retread of the original Star Wars. Perhaps the thinking was that he could mollify those who had been upset at the previous entry, bring them back into the fold and simultaneously end the 'saga' on a satisfying, emotionally resonant conclusion. While the audience score on Rotten Tomatoes indicate that the staid, familiar comfort food presented has been just the ticket for those upset, this comes at the cost of not only what made the original trilogy occupy such a hallowed place in 20th century pop culture but anything resembling a coherent film.
Abrams promised repeatedly that he wouldn't seek to row back or retcon any of the plot innovations introduced by Johnson; this seemed unlikely at the time and so it has proved. From the beginning of the opening crawl, Abrams seeks to claw back the vision he obviously initially had when directing The Force Awakens while introducing new and baffling elements seemingly only as fan service. Everything feels rushed: we barely have time to gather in a scene before the characters have moved on to the next stage in their MacGuffin quest, the screen filling with ever-increasing detritus. When you look at the structure of the best film in the series, The Empire Strikes Back, it has a clear three-part structure: Hoth, Luke on Dagobah/hiding on the meteor/Bespin. It's neat, it builds towards the conclusion in a clear way and it paces its action set-pieces well. This, on the other hand, is so jam-packed that it never stops to let the audience breathe.
The producers found themselves in an impossible position after the death of Carrie Fisher; Abrams promised that she would be brought back using outtake footage shot for the previous two instalments. This is, seemingly, only partly true: CGI has clearly been used to manipulate existing footage, giving it an unnatural, uncanny valley-like sheen, and all of Leia's scenes feel awkward. They're clearly built around the dialogue left over and it shows as the characters interact with her digital avatar and each other. She's quickly removed from the action and then dispensed with entirely, and while the nature of her inclusion is obviously a delicate matter, I can't help but wonder if it may have been better to leave the character off-screen entirely. One bright spot was Richard E Grant's Allegiant General Pryde who has exactly the sort of stiff, pompous air that Peter Cushing had as Grand Moff Tarkin. Every scene he's in is brightened, which is nearly—nearly—enough to redeem the endless exposition.
The stakes get higher and higher as we rush towards the over-stuffed conclusion and the particulars of the plot get more and more ridiculous. The idea that each instalment needs to be bigger and flashier than before leads us to a truly mind-boggling last half an hour in which characters overcome obstacles that would have previously been significant as if they were minor inconveniences. Redemption is achieved without much weight or thought and the film swings for an emotional coda that doesn't land or make much sense. It all feels like a wasted opportunity, a Disney-mandated theme park ride designed to sell toys and keep the internet happy. The wonder of the original trilogy is long a memory now, replaced by an apparently never-ending stream of Marvel-style 'event movies'. It's a pity.
I loved TFA, I liked TLJ, this though... I did feel bad rating it so low because I loved the usage of the score and the water/high wave fight scene was badass but it was bad it's like they didn't care at all
Also what did John Boyega do to deserve this? I feel like they must have hated him on some level to treat his character like some whining kdrama 3rd wheel nice guy who didn't get the decency of a sad "I'm all alone feeling sad :(" scene these characters usually get in kdramas, why couldn't he have at least got to be with Rose Tico if not Rey smh could've taken a minute what a lame end to an originally interesting character
"Suffers from a frustrating lack of imagination".
TROS really needed just one more edit before being filmed. It's got good bones but it just doesn't feel like it hits the mark.
Started as murky as the previous one ended, and then the plot just got worse, and worse, and worse.
The most uninspired, yet not the worst Star Wars movie.
Full disclosure - I am not a fanboy. I don't know all of the various secondary story lines and I really didn't care too much if there were minor plot holes. I generally don't like comic book movies and when I do watch them I don't take them too seriously. That said... I didn't mind this movie at all. Or the one before it. I did have a problem with 7 because it essentially felt like "hey, we've got the band back together so lets go re-make a movie that we've already made before". It has to be hard to close up this kind of series as I really don't think you can win. They could have beaten us over the head with cliches about the force (the dialog at the end of ROTJ almost kills the scene). They could have dipped even further into nostalgia. I think the final narrative (each of us has a choice at to who we are) is excellent and the people executing their will against their oppressors is timely. Did it feel like a video game at times? Sure. Overall I was entertained on the level that I was watching it.
One other note. There have been a ton of "rank all of the Star Wars movies" blogs coming out and many of them have this one as the worst of them. I didn't see the middle three (chronological order) for more than 10 minutes each but that was enough to see that they were unwatchable.
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As a star wars fan I appreciate the effort they put into recreating the sw universe and I can say they've done a very good job of it but the story however, what the f*** was that? That was nothing like star wars. Still entertaining though.
I hate you with a passion J. J. Abrams, you are the new Michael Bay in my book. Evil...... They should have just left it with 4-6, all the other movies have royally sucked... And Jesus, pick a lane already with Rey and Kylo dude, three movies and cant decide if kylo is good or bad, news flash, that was already done with Vader..... lamest movie ever.... But wait, don't worry, just give it 10 years and Disney will probably reboot the whole 9 movies............ And dude, Palpatine died in Episode 6, I love how he literally gives no explanation once so ever as to how he came back other then, "he used the force." LOL ok? A little elaboration on how? Stupid, so stupid on so many levels. And did Finn even have a real role in this movie or was he just the "token black guy" in this star wars movie? hmmmmmm. And what was the point of Kylo, he didn't and never was going to ever live up to Vader, just don't see why they even tried. He honestly comes across as a whinney little baby. Vaders grand child would never have been so lame.........
I love star wars fans and how silly they are. Is flash gordon with better effects, it always has been. Amazing movie.
Personally I thought it was quite enjoyable, slow start, but it ends on a nice high, closes off a lot of plot holes. My brother is very keen on the lightsaber fights.
All in all, cool.
good movie even with all the plot holes.
I thought I'd jot down some random thoughts I had watching Rise of Skywalker:
-Why does Kylo Ren wear his helmet only when it's NOT needed?
-Does Rey have a change of clothes? Can't she at least bring a carry on?
-Chewbacca's hair doesn't do well in dry desert conditions
-Lando's got connections. He must keep his LinkedIn account current
-Poe gets promoted to General and then hits his personal Peter principle
-I'd like to fix shit with Babu Frik in his workshop
-Rey isn't totally annoying in this movie
-Finn actually seems to matter. He's keeping Poe, Chewy, and Rey in line
-C3PO isn't totally annoying in this movie
-Do you need gravity to run around the deck of a Star Destroyer in space?
-Do you need air to run around the deck of a Star Destroyer in space?
-Why are data transfers done with RJ45 and IDE connectors? Where's the WiFi?
-Why did they name that new droid after an '80s Metal band?
-So that's what those blue slots on R2D2's front plate were for
-Why can't Zorii Bliss take off her helmet like everyone else?
-Advice to the Empire...Going forward, just give the Stormtroopers shotguns
-Ghost Luke walking out of the flaming Tie Fighter is the funniest thing I've seen in a movie all year
Heartbreakingly miserable. Disjointed. Empty. Filled with plot holes, inconsistent leaps of logic, multiple deus ex machina-s, and criminally lazy writing. (More Death Star lasers? Really?) Disney's unrivaled, groundbreaking success with the Marvel Cinematic Universe makes their utter failure to construct a single decent film in their Star Wars sequel trilogy all the more glaring. Not only have they reduced a genre-defining epic into a series of forgettable, run-of-the-mill tentpole films, but they've turned this rabid Star Wars fanatic into someone who can hardly be bothered to follow any of their Star Wars properties anymore. Such a shame.
I really liked this movie and I cannot understand the extreme low scores some people give. The visuals were amazing, the action was great and it had all the Star Wars elements it should. Sure the story had some issues, but it brought all the storylines together from the former films. That's an accomplishment in its own. Seems that there are different standards for SW movies and people are hoping to get that feeling from their youth back. Grow up and just enjoy this fun adventure!
A huge disappointment for me!
Shout by ToralfVIP 3BlockedParent2024-05-17T20:12:40Z
After “The Rise of Skywalker," it should be clear to everyone that there was no real master plan for the story in the sequel trilogy. J. J. Abrams really is reversing almost all the decisions that Rian Johnson made in “The Last Jedi." Some people will like that, while others will hate it. Either way, it destroys any sense of a cohesive narrative across multiple films.
Overall, I think you can have fun with the movie, but there really isn't much that sticks with you. At some point, it's simply not enough to just present you with great space battles and action sequences. In a space saga, I expect at least a little depth in the story, and this is completely lacking here. Ultimately, it doesn't feel like the grand finale of a decades-old saga. And that is rather disappointing.