Think its time to let Negan out of his cage!
Terrible, boring, pointless...not to mention impossible? How'd they manage to get all those people out unnoticed?? Talk about a show on its last legs; they've had such great bad guys in the past and now this. Neegan and The Governor were so much better than these unbelievable dummies. No amount of shock value (in this case x10 but really, maybe only x3 or x4 that people were vested in) can mask the horrid shit pile that is this season.
Simply put, one of the best episodes of the season in a damn good season, and one of the best in the series.
The pike scene is coming.
And this is why we don’t let in strange teenage girls who enjoys eating worms with psychopath mothers just because you find them cute, Henry.
Alpha is a lowkey badass, though.
FUCKING AMC. Alpha refers to a the head male dog in a pact. Liberally fucking hollywood has to make it some fat no talent bitch instead. Yes, im referring to Alpha, the least intimidating protagonist that TWD has ever had. I can not stand this bitch.
Jesus this show is getting cheesy.
If only there was an easy way to skip through all the Fluff and BS and get straight to the stuff that matters.
THE SCENE W/ DARYL asking connie to feed his dog and trying to do sign language?!? :sob: <3 also, the little wave and smile after... cute as hell!!
tara thinking she means business at that meeting and then michonne clapped back at her :skull:. she cracked cheesy jokes once they signed that pact too bro stfu and die already, please.
‘alpha’ dressed as ‘debbie’ gives me the heebie jeebies. man this character is just sickening more than anything.
they killed ur one but kept her glasses on?? FINALLY TARA IS DEAD! WOOHOOOO!! enid, the upcoming apprentice doctor? poor alden :( poor carol... they really had me believe it was ezekiel though. ultimately, the worst loss was enid.
OH COME ON, THIS WAS SO MEAN:sob::sob:
(10/10) - This episode was terrifyingly spectacular. As soon as I realised that Alpha was the woman in disguise I got goosebumps and they remained right until the very end. This episode was so special and will always have a place in my heart as it was the most delightful and simultaneously painful 60 minutes of my week.
The Walking Dead’s ninth series has been the best series in an awfully long time as there are truly shocking and unexpected circumstances around every corner, and seeing all of those heads on the pikes made me scream! Carol’s reaction to Henry’s death made me cry too!
Alpha is the most haunting and sadistic villain I think I have ever seen and I am very much hoping that our survivors can defeat her and the Whisperers in the next season somehow or maybe even in this season’s finale.
NOT ENID TOO :sob: :sob:
What I really liked about this episode is that I didn't expect this ending It was shocking and unexpected
Without a doubt, this is the best episode of this season
They should just kill her.
First kind-of-decent episode this season. But please stop listening to the children. Carl got himself killed, Henry got himself and nine others killed. Judith will most definitely get people killed too. And all of that because these walking pains in the asses have to be Mr/Mrs Moral Compass all the time. The kids in the show all seem to succeed quite well at being really anoying
Dang. Very intense episode that kinda broke my heart. The dramatics of this ending was very well done though.
well damn. I was confused a bit at the end but I believe it was one of the big shockers in a long time
Wow I totally didn't see that one coming
That was sad. So many gone in one scene.
This is so freaking slow & stupid. They spent 50 mins with nonsense in the episode then they show the ending with minimum explanation of how they actually got captured. So freaking dumb. Gonna finish the last episode & stop watching this nonsense. BTW, when I say slow; I watched this crap on TiVO with QuickMode which speeds up the episode. Even then this show is slow as shit.
One of the best episode I've watched... Stunning, didn't see that end coming, really stunning.
That creepy intro with Alpha skinning a woman to use her face as a mask gave me the chills. The fair begins at the Kingdom and when Michonne shows up with familiar faces except Lydia, the leaders of the communities get together to discuss presenting a united front against the Whisperers. A small group leaves the fair to go back to Hilltop and they come across the Highway Men who show them that a group from Hilltop was ambushed. Michonne, Daryl, Carol and Yumiko look for the survivors and let the others keep going. They are then surrounded by walkers which they all kill and then Beta and more Whisperers surround them. Back at the Kingdom, Alpha, dressed a normal person, walks around trying to blend in and meets Ezekiel. The movie begins at the theater and Alpha finds Lydia. In the woods, Alpha confronts the group and shows Daryl a massive herd of walkers and Whisperers that will be sent on them if they don't say off their land. Daryl is then let free and so are the others. They find Siddiq tied to a tree and at the top of a hill, ten stakes in the ground with the heads of people from the different communities sitting on top of them. The victims are Ozzy, Alek, D.J., Frankie, Tammy Rose, Rodney, Addy, Enid, Tara, and Henry. At the Kingdom, Siddiq tells everyone what happened and explain how those ten people fought together until the end. Daryl takes Lydia to the stake where Henry was found and leaves something in memory of him. Then snow begins to fall...
So... I've never seen an episode of Game of Thrones, but from what I've heard I'm pretty sure this is what it's like. Damn.
Where has this been all season!
Uh oh, they done pissed off Carol now!
This season has really brought the show back to life. Again, a really good episode. It was still not perfect, but THAT scene truly was something! It was so well done. I also like the fact that they went a bit different with this plot twist compared to comics. I'm so glad Henry's gone. FINALLY! I just wasn't a fan of that character, and I know I'm not alone with this.
OMG Great episode HOLY COW!
Holy Moly! didn't see that coming!
My god this episode really feels like old times when the plot took an unexpected turn and main characters suddenly were ripped from the show!
I said it before and until now my statement stands: this is the best season since season 4! Finally loving TWD again.
This was such a great episode and easily one of my favorite this season at. It was shocking, and chilling The Walking Dead style.
I expected the head in the pike scene but i did not expect to be losing major characters like Tara, and Enid whom I started to like since the first time I saw them. This one gave me that same feeling when we lost Glenn and Abraham from from 7x16, but it's interesting here that they changed to line up of the people who's getting their head's in the spike from the comic version to what they showed in this episode, so there's still a bit of element of surprise.
[6.4/10] I am desensitized to death on The Walking Dead. We have witnessed the “shocking” slayings so many times on this show. We have seen the series slowly but surely whittle down the number of characters whom I actually care about. We have had so many dramatic monologues that are punctuated by some theoretically noteworthy character kicking the buckets. After nine seasons, it ceases to have the same, if any, weight.
Game of Thrones fans know that you can only put so many heads on pikes before it starts to feel tiresome. What “The Calm Before” lacks in import, it tries to make up for in volume, packing in tons of vaguely familiar faces in with the three actually noteworthy characters who meet their ends here. Ten characters in total go off the glory in the episode, but a solid half of them we just met this half-season, and even more of them are spare, barely there presences who didn’t exactly make an impact on the show.
But even taking the three who do matter is underwhelming. I’d actually come to like Enid despite her Dawson’s Creek-style love triangle to introduce her to the series. But the show lost track of her a while ago. While she’s been involved in the occasional significant event, she hasn’t really had a storyline all her own in ages.
Tara fares slightly better, but only slightly. She had a compelling storyline between her losing Denise and her moral dilemma over Oceanside. But the show lost track of her too, giving her an abbreviated Hilltop leadership plot that didn’t really go anywhere this season, and a tepid “can we ever trust the Saviors” plot last year. God willing, we’ll get some sort of flashback or something to underline what Tara stood for and give the death of a character who’s been with the show for half its run something more than just a bit of shock value. Still, in the moment, it’s hard to feel anything but gladness that the actress made it off the show.
That just leaves Henry, the one death in the show that feels truly shocking and impactful given his focus both before and after the time jump. But that’s really the problem. I’m tired of seeing children (or at least young adults) killed on this show. I’m tired of seeing Carol and Michonne and Morgan having to lose and suffer the loss of those young souls that they’re trying to build a better world for. That too becomes exhausting and dispiriting after a while, particularly for a character who effectively arrived recently and had plenty of room to grow and places to go.
Instead, we just get Negan’s circle of death mk. II, and lord knows I don’t need or want that. There’s some distinguishing features, but The Whisperers feel like a big rehash of The Saviors arc that was, frankly, interminable. It’s the same basic “monologuing villain tries to rule by brutality and claim dominion, causing our heroes to use their ingenuity against the bad guy’s superior numbers” setup. Sure, the whole pretending to be zombies angle is something, and the abuser angle is something, but at its core, this is the same structure and rhythm as what we just got through, which I was beyond tired of by the time things wrapped up.
There was one point where I liked the “realism,” if that’s even the right term, for what The Walking Dead did. The zombie apocalypse, to the extent you could ever extrapolate into a realistic setting, would involve frequent deaths, from walker attacks, from inter-group rivalries, and from illness and starvation. But at some point, the tenth time you see the Big Bad off one of your protagonists so that the show can try to shock you and establish the seriousness of the new threat, it just becomes rote. At some point, when you’ve already seen Carol suffer and recover from so much, it just feels unbelievably cruel to have us watch her continuing to go through this kind of crap. When every character besides the three or four who have nigh-unbreakable plot armor seem destined to be kill, you start to wonder what the point is.
“The Calm Before” tries to offer the audience a balm. Rather than ending the proceedings on that tragedy, the episode closes with Siddiq giving a speech to the rest of the folks at the fair. He recounts (and we witness), how all of these relative strangers banded together to fight back against The Whisperers, how they fought for each other despite the lack of familiarity or affection between them. It’s supposed to be a rousing counterweight, a metaphor for how these disparate communities (and what the hell’s been going on at Oceanside?) can make good on that joint defense agreement and make a stand against their attackers.
Except that working together just got all of those people killed anyway! The show wants to have its cake and eat it too, to try to hearten us with Siddiq’s recounted bit of inspiration, but also to devastate us with the demise of several longtime (or at least long enough time) characters.. And I’m just done with it. I don’t need more deaths that have more shock value than value as the culmination of character journeys. I don’t need Negan redux with a continued terrible line-delivery. And I don’t need these characters constantly learning and unlearning and learning over again that very hard things happen but that if they work together and accept others they can overcome them.
The best things in the episode just feel like teases or feints for that final twist. The opening reunion, the first time many characters have shared the screen since the time jump, has the power of separation and reconciliation that the show’s divide and conquer structure provides. And while some of it just feels like texture, seeing the various individuals roam around the fair and break bread and enjoy themselves is lots of fun in the moment. Not all of it advances the story (beyond trying to remind us that certain characters exist), but it feels earned, that there’s something of a normal, frivolous life to be had within this broader community.
But the only reason those scenes exist is to do the whole “remind you what you’re fighting for” bi and then try to devastate the audience. The theme of this episode is how you never know, as Connie’s sister says, when the next goodbye is the last one. But “anyone can die” isn’t a boon to your story if you just use that principe to puff up the latest antagonist.
Enid and Tara are both characters with enough mileage to at least warrant giving them more to do before they’re off the show. The series has invested too much time in Henry to make the end result of his existence Carol and Ezekiel having to mourn another child in their care. Sure, sometimes the shocking death can be a good in and of itself, but by season 9, all that you’re left with is the sense that characters you’ve invested in, or at least should be invested in, have been tossed off just to prove that the newest arc-length threat means business. I am so very tired of that, so not looking forward to spending more time with The Whisperers, and so considering whether my next goodbye to The Walking Dead should be my last too.
well.....at least we're in shock again. Been yawning for so long.
Terrible.
The show has been sh!t for a while now, this ep. made it worse - the whole whisperers plot stinks.
Depending on the first few eps. in next seoson, I might jump ship like Rick and Maggie.
Damn. What an end. I didn’t expect that. This season sucks but this is the best episode of it by far.
excuse my french but:
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
Holy shit.
I started this episode with the notion that I was seeing yet another one of those episode where happy people are introduced you just knew were gonna get offed some way of the other. You knew something was gonna happen every second. I didn't quite roll my eyes but I was gonna say here how they should stop doing these cliché's , that we know them by now and that we're not impressed.
And then... the ending came and... Without exaggerating or jest: I had chills on my back, and it kept going till the end. If they tugged a bit harder on the strings the "welling" inside me would have brought up a tear. Who'd have thought the Walking Dead could still do this? I didn't... And that makes it great.
Well done, very... very... well done.
I'm eager to see next weak... Cuz apparently "winter is coming"
Bloody tell. They really was shocking. I cannot believe it. How the hell will they be victorious in a war?
HO-LY SH¡T
I wasn't prepared for this. With each reveal I got a little closer to the edge of my seat, when SUDDENLY, I found mybself standing. Shoutin "Look away Carol! Look AWAY. It's Eze... oh. It's the Dolf Lungdren kid. Good job Daryl. Seriously Damn, though.
So some stuff need to happen now:
• Badass Bowl - Daryl VS. Beta. Oh this would br bloody.
• Queen's Judgment - Carol is going to go full Rambo on this alopha bitch (pun intended). And it's got the potential to be even bloodier.
• King's Lament - Ezekiel is going to quit acting and get into post Lorrie Rick. Man, Henry's brother, Shiba and now Henry. He probably be killed by someone only to make the queen's judgement even fiercer.
• Scilence of the Lambs - Alexandria will just be Meh (intended again) as they usually are for the last 3 seasons.
• The Return of Lucille - We need more of Jeffrey Dean Morgan's Negan flirting with a wooden baseball bat.
• Here comes Maggie - Maggie will return just to show us how a southern mama handles thing in the apocalypse.
A great season so far. Hope they'll play it big for the finale.
Beside, I think the show runners are some of GoT fanboys. A lot of hidden reference.
the war between the dead, the living and the living dead...
Winter is Coming! and I have a feeling its going to be a hard one.
They didn't have the guts to kill King Ezequiel!!! I'm happy they change it for Henry but I'm not here to be happy, I'm here to be shocked.
Although it was a good episode.
I'm not gonna lie, over time I've begun to lose my appeal for this show, not totally but definitely a bit. While lots of my friends have given up on it, I've stuck it out as I still remember that this was one of the best shows on TV.
This episode has made me feel glad I stayed on board. The story build up, the characterisation, the end... all of it was top notch! I knew it was gonna be bad but I didn't guess on how bad! I didn't expect so many heads up on those pikes and I definitely didn't think Henry was gonna be one of them. I'm sad he's been killed off and I'm sad for Carol to lose another child. God only knows what's coming next week.
In my opinion this is a contender for one of the best TWD episodes ever.
This was the best episode in a long time. Some of the parts were drawn out and lame, more of a , hey look how this characters grown before we kill them off. Don't care about most of the deaths, no really any characters I enjoy watching. I feel we have , 3-4 epidodes until they unleash Negan.
This episode fails to devastate me.
But to be fair, there was one way that scene could have made me happy and only one way to devastate me:
a) Michonne being dead - Oh my, she just goes on my nerves...
b) Deryl being dead as he is the only main character I like left on the show. Kind of funny as he was the one I hated the most in Season 1 - right after his Nazi brother that is.
They should have paid what ever the actors wanted to keep Rick and Maggie for this and kill them off.
That would have been devastating.
As it stands now, they just can't devatate me, as I don't give a shit about those halve-written characters which are left.
I was a bit sad about Adeline, but after a second I realized, that I just didn't like seeing a pretty face like that on a stick.
Caught of guard again. Anyone who knows about the comics knew what was about to happen but they swapped out some of the victims for others and I was not prepared to feel all of that. The tone for the finale has been set, wow. Just wow. The walking dead back at it!!
One of the best episodes of all TWD. I’m enjoying to be excited with an episode since the last two seasons.
A solid episode improved by the final few scenes. That said, I'm not sure it was very believable how they managed to cherrypick random people out of Kingdom without being detected. I was expecting - and it would have made more sense - for it to have been the other group that was out there with Carol et al. Still, it was an enjoyable OMG moment and a very memorable visual. Not gonna lie, I'm kinda glad Henry was one of the victims so it ends the blossoming puppy love storyline that was going on. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
I can write a big deal about this episode, but I'm just glad we got such a good episode in the ninth season of this show! Can't wait for the finale!
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What happened to all their guns??? Somehow they disappeared? What about that ability to make bullets?