Thoroughly enjoyable experience. Even though we knew beforehand we're seeing a good chunk of metaphors, by the end we're still left to reexamine and digest them.
A word of advice...do not watch this in the presence of an English PhD specializing in Medieval history and British Literature.
The 2 hours of head shaking and "WTFs' from my lady were, luckily, enough to cover the near constant dialogue of endless whispering. I was fortunate to get the real story with literary insights to make the original poetic manuscript far more meaningful than this overindulgent theatrical shite.
Lots of potential washed down the drain with shitty writing.
Pros
+Great visuals
+Above average Dialogue
+Great acting
+Lots of imagination in the execution of everything makes it really feel like a cool fairy tale
+the first hour and a half of the movie is fairly solid, not perfect but it is entertaining and undeniably cool
+the cumshot scene is fucking hilarious and even though it shouldn't be in the story, it will be the one thing people remember about this movie and it will be the entire focus of every conversation about it.
Cons
-The writing went off the rails after the first night he stayed in the castle the whole "fuck my wife and then fuck me" thing was an idiotic perversion of the actual tale. In the myth the whole awkward situation of the kisses and the garter is punished and justified in the final act. In this we get some bizarro shame based ending that made no sense in relation to the rest of the story. Instead of "Make sure to stay true to noble values and strive for perfection regardless of temptation/faults" it became "If you do some weird shit then you will feel bad about it for eternity and ruin your life so just die instead" absolutely baffling how they threw away the framework for a good story to make this trash ending
-They pronounced Gawain like Gawen for some dumb fucking reason. Super annoying
Overrated beyond belief. Sorry, but with this one A24 borders on a self-parody.
It's terribly sad to see comments that are taking the "story" for what it is worth at face value and outright dismissing the movie entirely
As loathe as I am to watch "arthouse" movies, this one certainly struck quite a few chords. The journey of the young, unsure, foolhardy knight and his misplaced sense of honor and the turn he takes into fully accepting his destiny was one I enjoyed very much. The visuals and the sounds did play a large part in it, completely selling the atmosphere of a magical kingdom with swathes of unknown and unexplored mystery. The performances, too, were excellent and Dev Patel was very convincing as Sir Gawain
I'm sorry to say but the story is very, very obvious. As with these "artsy fartsy" movies, the way it is told is what elevates it and here, I feel it was justified and used to great effect. Instead of giving us the straightforward story of Sir Gawain in the ballad, something that has been told for centuries (and something I looked up afterwards because I'm not British or European at all), this movie instead attempts to recontextualise and shroud the entire thing in an air of magic and I found myself enraptured by it
It's the classic tale of a straightforward story told in a convoluted way. As King Arthur says at the very beginning, it was always just a game. What mattered was the journey Gawain took that changed him into someone who would accept what was coming because of his honor. The fox and the mansion were distractions and tried to keep him from achieving his destiny. The sash, given by his mother and returned by the witch in the mansion, was to prevent him harm but it prevented it by making him a coward. What happens after the Knight swings his axe is just the future that awaits for him for his broken oath. He removes the sash, thus letting go of all fears and the Green Knight, satisfied with the man he sees before him, lets him go. The Green Knight was never truly harmed and there was never a reason to harm Gawain either
I loved this movie. It blended the mystical and made for an enthralling journey through beautiful lands and forests and was something truly unique that I appreciate and left me wanting more
Wait. What!? WTF did I just watch?
Like a high school philosophy student, The Green Knight is very flamboyant and mumbles when he babbles, hoping you'll mistake his incoherence for intelligence.
The Green Knight follows the recent A24 trend of treading on the thin line between intrigue and obscurity. It stays on track for much of the film, and when it falls, at least there's the safety net of lush cinematography.
An audiovisual poem from a medieval poem. A personal vision that turns a knight into a normal man, whose brief moment of bravery changes his destiny for good. It is a beautiful film, which seeks in aesthetics the visualization of the transformation process of Gawain, who renounces the traditional narrative to rise to dreams and fantasy. It is, therefore, a film to be absorbed, which aims to seduce rather than tell.
The Green Knight enthralls your senses like no other Arthurian tale. Gorgeously shot sequences of reality dissolving into the surreal are rife with a semiotic texture that renders the characters almost monolithic. However, Patel and Vikander dominate when needed and deliver. Wanted to love it more, but couldn't for something I can't put my hand on.
The Green Knight is a transfixing transformation of a great epic poem into a perfect art film.
This is one slow movie which is a waste of time. I will not get surprised if you can not finish the movie.They tried to make it as a novel but a boring one.
we’ll, for a movie that I patiently waited like 6 months for, I can say it was definitely… interesting.
the cinematography is gorgeous, the acting is gorgeous, the atmosphere is gorgeous, etc, etc. my only gripe is my complete surprise when the movie ended and I didn’t really know what happened. after some reflection I can understand the impact of Gawain’s journey more, but I think it just wasn’t my cup of tea in every place.
that being said, would definitely watch again!
Beautiful film, but I wasn't high enough to understand what the hell was happening.
"Now... off with your head."
'The Green Knight' is a Christmas movie! Live with it or live in denial.
David Lowery is now a director to keep an extra eye on, in terms of his next project.
It's rare these days that we get these super weird adult fantasy movies that feels like 'The Princess Bride', but more...well, adult.
Everything on a technical and production level is flawless. Protection design, costumes, make-up, score, visual effects, Dev Patel's jizz, and the cinematography.
Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays everyone!
It's very hard to keep up with the story, as it's boring as hell, like the movie was filmed in slow motion, the plot moves word by word, slow, slow, and then you die out of boredom
Visually stunning pile of quasi-artistic crap.
I hate myself for not liking this movie because it is visually enchanting. A lot of effort went into the photography and it shows. The shots are masterfully crafted and combined with the sounds and the soundtrack do a great job of tailoring the drab atmosphere of a very long funeral procession Gawain believes he is about to embark on. And that's about it.
This is not a very complicated story to make, but even stories like that can be made into compelling movies in the right hands. This movie was not in the right hands.
It’s time to play: Where Have I Seen This Story Before?
A bearded young man in old-timey times has a distant relationship with his kingly father figure, who expects great things of him. He’s in a state of arrested development and lives with his widowed mother, while his “official” father is never mentioned. The woman he has feelings for wears a lot of jingling bells; she’s a sex worker so they can never actually be together, as that would be bad for his image and the example he’s supposed to set. The young man has a terrible destiny thrust upon him: he must journey forth to die in a set time and place, and if he doesn’t accept that he will lose his integrity and betray the message of his “father” for his people.
For a week the young man suffers physically, mentally, and spiritually, as he struggles with temptation in the forms of sex, selfishness, violence, and talking animals giving him enigmatic messages. He arrives at the place of his doom, prepared to give up his life…then he says “fuck this” and escapes. We see him flee home and live out his life over decades, time skipping faster and faster in a montage. He takes up the adult responsibilities of his father’s business and tries to bury his sense of shame. He gets back with the sex worker but “loses” her when she gives birth. He marries another woman and has a child with her, even if she isn’t the love of his life. He grows old as his world falls apart. Before his delayed death, he is confronted with the knowledge that his weakness and refusal to fulfil his destiny destroyed his “father’s” promised kingdom.
And then he snaps back to the moment before we saw him flee. This was all a vision of his future if he cowers from his sacrificial death. He submits to his execution and smiles as the movie ends.
Although this protagonist survives, I think David Lowery owes Martin Scorsese and the estate of Nikos Kazantzakis some money. This was gorgeous to look at and listen to, Dev Patel was spectacular as usual, so two stars for that. You know what I don’t need in my Dark ‘n’ Gritty King Arthur movie? Semen! I had to endure that scene next to my dad! I’m an Arthurian Legend nerd who accepts all kinds of varying iterations of “The Matter of Britain”. But somehow this adaptation had thinner characterization, relationships, story structure, and motivation than the medieval poem, where Gawain wimping out from his quest, like Brave Sir Robin Who Had Nearly Stood Up to the Vicious Chicken of Bristol, is treated as a joke that everyone gets over.
Speaking of Willem Dafoe movies, in the Year of Our Lord 2021, you can’t include a raspy-human-voiced fox in your film and expect me to take it seriously (and not whisper “chaos…reigns!”).
Visually stunning, thought provoking, with a hint of eerie tension the entire runtime.
A unique, fascinating, cerebral and engrossing film, with a well-crafted plot, that keeps you engaged via it's hypnotic direction and visuals.
Really great art and cinematography, terrible storytelling and pacing.
Don’t expect the bombast of Excalibur here or the action beats of Guy Ritchie’s effort. This is a slow, poetic, artfully filmed adaptation of Gawain And The Green Knight, and is all the better for it’s stylised approach.
Makes you think about honor, religion, chivalry, death. ambiguous but interesting
Snoozefest of the highest order.
After mulling it over, I've come to a conclusion about The Green Knight.
I'm greatly confused by this.
I'm not sure if it's because I haven't read the original text, because it's an arthouse film that is supposed to be slow and disjointed for realism's sake, or because of another reason. Regardless, I left the theater unsure of my feelings about this movie. I mean, we all know how it's going to end from the scene where Gawain strikes the Green Knight. We know his fate is sealed, so the question should be, "How does he come to terms with his destiny?"
This movie is supposed to be not only Sir Gawain's physical journey to face the Green Knight in the Green Chapel, but also his mental journey that will prepare him for the moment the two of them meet again. However, even with the conclusion we are given, I don't really see how Gawain earned his arc. This movie trades the coherent for the abstract, and while I certainly don't think it's a bad thing that it was basically him moving from setpiece to (seemingly unrelated) setpiece, I don't see how he grew as a character to reach the conclusion he reached. Maybe there was some symbolism I missed in this fever dream of a fantasy. Maybe I'd understand more upon a rewatch. Despite that, it's certainly an experience, a waking dream to behold, both beautiful and terrible.
I'll come right out and say it - I don't understand what it all meant. I did some reading after finishing the film and apparently the film is (very) loosely based on some literature from several centuries ago. No matter. I also didn't quite understand the central struggle. For much of the film I assumed that it was about the quest for honor and if that is even a worthy quest to begin with. But ultimately I enjoyed the film because it was an interesting journey that was visually stunning. I can't say that I enjoyed it as much as the director's previous works (Ghost Story and Ain't Them Bodies Saints) but I did enjoy it.
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Great film, in cinematography and storytelling, but I struggled with how much of an idiot they portrayed Gawain to be for most of the film.
Of course we wouldn’t have any story if he had listened closely to what the green knight had said and not taken the entire head off, subsequently pushing himself into the deepest pits of despair, believing his life would be forfeit if he went in the journey… but that also made the story.
What a weak character he starts out as. Silent even when the woman who loves him asks a crucial question. And too trusting of strangers in the wood… not even taking his sword when he runs. That was entirely too silly. Not at all convinced his journey makes him any stronger or better. Sure, he does find some courage in the end of the film, but not after having been a coward all his life.
Although a cool cinematographic trick, panning the camera around and showing his bones in the future, I’m so far confused as to what purpose it served. It seems a little useless. A moment of confusion and “oh is that it”, but then it’s taken back?
I liked the “are you real or are you a spirit?” - “what is the difference? I just need my head.”
As it becomes striking that he is on a mystical journey and this is not a common story at all, it was increasingly well received. The fox in his colours, the beautiful books, impossibly deep springs … I am not familiar with the original tale but I was suspecting him to have been the green knight and it being a circular story. At the very least for him to having freed the old and becoming the new. But it seemed like his mother had called the knight to begin with, so many questions arising as watching.
Be wary of promises where you exchange gifts. She might give him a child. I really wanted him to interact with the blind lady on his own. I wonder what she was all about. Was she symbolic him? Blind and mute?
Absolutely adored that the lady in the castle in effect made a photograph of him. That was terrific.
“Red is the colour of lust, but green is what lust leaves behind after, in the heart. In the womb”
Love how both Gawain and his fox were in a trap by the two in the castle.
A wonderful mystical journey and stunning images. Worth the watch.
If anyone was gonna adapt 'Dark Souls' to film, this would be the team to do it.
A friend recommended this movie. Now I am questioning our friendship. Why did you recommend me to such crap.
What an incredible film. The Green Knight is truly a coming-of-age story, disguised with the trappings of fantasy and suspense. The acting, directing, cinematography and music are all done as superbly as one can expect. While some may not enjoy the pacing, as it does slow down at times, it always adds to the suspense that makes this film so compelling in the first place.
My wife acted like she did not like this movie, which is usually a good indication that I thought it was great…which I did. I will say that in a room with all the lights shut off, stretched out on the couch while watching a movie over 2 hours long, she stayed awake, which I don’t think she has ever done, so at the very least this movie should engage you. Visuals were stunning, and helped give the movie that magical feel that I think they were going for. I was entertained.
This is an absolutely beautiful film that exceeded all my expectations. It takes the classic (and somewhat basic) poem of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight and turns it into a visual poem that examines the major themes of the poem in various scenes. At its heart this is a hero's challenge that has been told so many times since it's original writing, but it is told exquisitely and gorgeously.
"Actions have consequences" : definitely this is the leitmotiv of the movie. But to understand this, you need to know a lot of literature and to pay attention.
This movie is good, excellent photography, simple but stunning costumes,minimal and beautiful settings, but actually you can't enjoy the story if you don't know the Arthurian cycle and the Breton myths, or the Celtic Green Man: only if you know about the Breton Sir Gawain you can understand this Gawain, because there are some profound differences between the two, and in those differences is the key to understand the movie, and to enjoy a verywell written screenplay and an excellent direction.
Probably this hermeticism is the setback of this movie, it is demanding to watch and some people would hate the movie or find it boring. But honestly, I think this is a little masterpiece that is going back to the roots of cinema, where you don't need to create a pop standard plot, but you need to tell a story, in an interesting perspective, without considering if it would be understood.
I know this is a pretty snob idea, but hey, there are tons of Marvel movies to watch and copycat rom-com that have all the same story. For once, let a good movie take the stage and praise it, or at least leave it be, just let it reach the right audience without flunking it.
My advise is to watch it or rewatch it after reading the original story: you will find a noble Gawain, incarnation of all the highest moral values of the knight of king Arthur. And then this Gawain, young, timid, that will fail all the moral challenges along his path, being the symbol of the human condition, but eventually finding a way to redeem himself. I'm pretty sure you will find this movie an interesting gem.
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This is an absolutely horrible movie. It's like some crackhead wrote it. The story is convoluted and incomprehensible. This is definitely 2hrs that you can not get back. I'd much rather sit there in the dark and watch paint dry.
How I rate:
1-3 :heart: = seriously! don't waste your time
4-6 :heart: = you may or may not enjoy this
7-8 :heart: = I expect you will like this too
9-10 :heart: = movies and TV shows I really love!
Amazing soundtrack and visuals. Worth watching for those alone. The story takes some time to understand where it’s trying to go but it’s still solid.
Good to recommend to people you don't like..
Nightmare fueled medieval fantasy anchored by the charismatic Dev Patel. I'm not a fan of David Lowery’s work so I'm surprised I actually liked this one. The whole film revolves around the theme of values, honor and acceptance. It's a bit slow but what a wonderful visual treat! At times I think it's way too focused on making the film looks stunning, I find it a bit tiring, and some scenes need to be seriously trimmed down but overall it's an interesting watch. Some spooky moments along with a few surprises and a hell of an ending! Making sense of everything that came before and imbuing it with so much power. Still prefer the schlocky one though.
it sucks ass, at best
At some point both me and Gawain were sat crying wrapped, him around his cape, me around my blanket. I cannot tell you how much this was exactly the movie I needed tonight.
The film starts well (first half hour) and ends well (last 30 minutes), the rest is mostly filler scenes. The cinematography is original and polished, and the story follows the original epic poem more or less faithfully (but it takes some licenses too). It is a good choice for lovers of Arthurian/Medieval stories with a touch of philosophical meaning, but for the rest it will make for a slow and overly long film.
Edit. I forgot to comment, it's a movie to watch with headphones, because most of the dialogue is done almost in whispers.
The Green Knight is a occult, poetic and an arcane adaptation of an mystical adventure. With remarkable cinematography, astounding score from Daniel Hart and powerhouse performances by Dev Patel and Alicia Vikander, The Green Knight is a deep, thought provoking realisation of a human's self-worth, fears and ambitions. The Green Knight is very layered and slow and may not please many casual cinephiles so watch it only if you like structured and slow burn cinema.
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Odd movie: I ended it disliking it a lot. A few hours pass (now) and in fact I'm already liking it a lot. I needed to read again some arthurian info to understand it better. Too cryptic. And I still think it could be some 20-30 shorter. The pace is a problem. The visual is awesome.
I implore anyone going into this movie to first watch A24's recap of the Arthurian legend on their YouTube page, as well as the Wikipedia synopsis of the original poems premise. It will save you so much confusion as you wind yourself through this trippy, dream-like movie for the first time. Very much told through metaphor, symbolism and vague off comments, The Green Knight is a visually striking puzzle box of a movie that arthouse fans and A24 stans will lust over for some time (myself included). If part of the movie watching experience isn't feverishly discussing every detail with your friends and scrolling through every Reddit thread you can find, you may very well come away from the Green Knight confused and feeling like you've wasted your time. But if you're willing to open up and read interpretations from those online, as well as dive head first into Arthurian legends of old, you'll find much more here than you initially thought.
Much like Midsommar, I initially rated this fairly low, only crediting the visuals and performances for my 6/10 rating, but as I've now read up on the context and minute details, it's creeping it's way up to a 7 or 8 out of 10, but I feel it'll take a few viewings to fully lock in my impressions.
It was artistically charming in a way, but had just as much as depth as playing with your dog for an hour.
what an awful movie
90% of the film is him walking and dealing with useless and meaningless shit
it's like if you buy a game and only do side quests (not the fun ones!)
speaking of games, this film is the equivalent of Death Stranding, just walking and no action
I only gave it 3/10 because I liked the visuals other than that this movie lacks in everything
awful story, no character development and most importantly no clear vision
they just wanted to do a film and seem smart about it
huge fail
Absolutely loved it. The visuals, tone and music score brought a smile to my face that never left. looking forward to watching it again
long-winded, rambling and 90% was boring
but some good scenery
won't be watching that again.
I'll stick to the Dark Knight
Terrible movie. -1/10 would not recommend
Maybe one day this movie will get released. Can't wait to see what it gives
EDIT: We now have a release date! Can't wait to see it in theaters (hopefully)
A movie with stunning photography, beautiful images that match the story, which is great, very intriguing and as beautiful as poetry.
The pace of the movie is slower, contemplative, it could be a little more dynamic in some parts, but that's not a problem. The movie is well worth watching with attention and admiration.
A beautiful movie, a lot of the scenes are such a joy to look at. I did have to read parts from the poem to provide myself with some context, but the movie did a great job of making me WANT to learn more.
I liked the fantasy aspect mixed with the medieval time period. The soundtrack was pretty good too.
Occasionally beautiful camera shots, and a few interesting moments. But mostly a crap attempt at retelling the classic tale while completely missing the point and not even showing the end of the story that would at least finish and explain it.
Truly astonishing filmmaking here!! I haven't felt like this whilst watching a movie in quite some time. I don't really want to give anything away, so just go watch it for yourself if you haven't already.
Beautiful to look at and a mind spinning spectacle to behold. Very good acting, some scenes carried on too long for my liking, but overall a solid film unlike too many others you've seen before tell this tale. Lowery had a unique take on things for sure. Commendable 7.3 effort.
“The Green Knight” is a loose adaptation of an old Round Table table tale, with the difference that the hero is all but worthy of becoming a knight.
The biggest surprise was to find out this was an American production, as the contemplative mood and restrained tone felt familiarly European. Although I was expecting myself to fall asleep as Sir Gawain had his mandatory walks in the woods and philosophical questions, I found the movie surprisingly captivating and well-paced throughout, with even some lighter moments to counterbalance the brooding passages.
The cinematography and production design are astonishing if we consider the ridiculous budget they had. Yet, we are still talking about a niche movie that won’t satisfy those looking for an action-packed fantasy movie.
it had some very beautifully crafted shots and moments, and i'm a sucker for medieval settings & set designs, but as for the story? confusing and quite weird at times;
but watching an explanation video about it, and where it talked about "the five virtues of a knight" and how it interpreted the story's ending was eye opening in a way, i like these subtle details and thoughts that go behind a movie's direction so much
The beauty of an A24 movie is that regardless of how much you enjoy the movie, it will be an interesting and unique experience. The Green Knight is no exception. Admittedly, this movie is not for me. It’s slow, artsy, and not my traditional wheelhouse as a fantasy epic. Dev Patel is great as always and it’s nice to see Alicia Vikander in anything, but something about the film doesn’t totally resonate with me, and that’s totally fine. It’s an experience worth watching and I am sure many others will appreciate this movie a LOT more than I do.
Rating: 2.5/5 - 7/10 - Worth Watching
Medieval Last Temptation of Christ remake.
Great cinematography, a very complex story, and of course unpredictable. Even the ending was beyond expectations. Not a single scene is wasted, and each scene should not be skipped.
a good movie definitly more on the experimental site 7.7/10
In the first 2 thirds of the film, it had a few interesting post-modern critiques on the "honorable" virtues of chivalry (and of patriarchal societies, in general), but after the first night of Gawain's stay at Lord Bertilak's castle, the adaptation began to diverge from the original story, the film's messaging to lose its way and with the ending the metaphor fell completely apart.
Well, this is definitely not your average fantasy adventure story. While visually very appealing, story-wise it was not really my cup of tea.
I hated this... Arthouse gone wrong... Waste of 2 hours.
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David Lowery brings us the most lysergic readaptation of the classic tale. Dev Patel masterfully gives life to the knight Gawain, whom we will accompany during his dreamlike and psychedelic journey. A total movie smoke, but very enjoyable if you let yourself go.
Minimalist tale with beautiful cinematography. Kept me engaged and wondering the whole time. Ending could have been more satisfying / climactic. And while I love the melancholy / artsy / minimalist A24 aesthetic, it felt a bit too heavy here at times.
It's a bit of a hard movie, I enjoyed watching the movie but there it does have a lot of side content which was entertaining but did distract from the main story a bit.
It's alright, i enjoyed it but i can see why alot people won't
90mins into this film and nothing has happened, boring.
Me, reading the reviews after enjoying this artsy messy sort-of-hero's quest: that was way harsh Tai
I need to rewatch this. I liked it, but its ambiguity was too much for me.
Beautiful cinematography, wonderful score, and the perfect cure for insomnia.
what load of crap, critics must be smoking some good marijuana
I feel like you need to be quite well versed in the Arthurian legends to really understand the themes and symbolism here. Unfortunetly I'm not so I was just a bit bored through most of the middle but still worth a watch for the insanely stunning visuals alone IMO.
The beginning and the end were very good, but the middle part was insufferably slow.
My rated was 7. I liked the movie, but it was tiring in some moments and part of the journey was not necessary! It would be cutted!
I really loved this movie. I complete understand the vision
If you're not into the kind of films A24 puts out, then you're not going to dig thought provoking films like this. But hey, you will always have Guy Ritchie's King Arthur to rewatch.
I am almost speechless, what a masterpiece! A24 you are magic!
What a journey! It was magical and I loved it!
I also realized that I could use this game my self. When are you coming and knock on my door?
Review by NathanBlockedParent2022-07-17T19:24:49Z
The Green Knight is an epic character study that takes it's time following the path of a man finding worth in his life, but that slow progression is also its downfall.
This movie was really gripping at first, I was invested in the first 30 minutes but that flow slowly starts to fade during the mid-section. At this point the scenes begin to drag a bit and the story jumps from one section to the next so quickly that it can be a bit disorienting as to where you are. Despite the slight pacing issues, this film is still a treat to watch.
The visuals and the atmosphere of this film is really well done, each scene felt perfectly crafted. The mix between CGI and practical affects are a real bright spot as today so many movies rely too much on the computerized effects. The tone had me completely captivated, as adventure unfolds there are many darks turns where our protagonist has to preserver to get to his objective. This perseverance is what evolves him as a character and is what enables him to be worthy of knighthood. I bought that evolution due to the fantastic job Dev Patel does in this film.
Patel encapsulates so much of what Gawain is, a reckless and immature child who has done nothing with his life. This causes a great deal of insecurity as he feels not worthy to be in the presence of his uncle, the king, even though he has royal blood. The sense of unsureness is carried throughout the film brilliantly by Patel, and it is not until the end where he truly becomes worthy for the crown. This performance is spectacular, and Dev Patel deserves all the accolades for this film.
Overall, The Green Knight was a really interesting experience. Although it does not warrant its runtime and pacing could have been done better, it is still an excellent film that I enjoyed. Even after watching, the more research I do and more I think about it, the more it gets better due to the complex symbolism and presentation that does not make itself known on the first watch.
Grade: 83%
Verdict: Great