When I was younger I gave this 9 (maybe 10 if you asked me on certain days). But rewatching this after rewatching the batman (2022) made me realise it's a 6 (and thats me being generous).
So, Batman has a beef with Superman destroying half of Metropolis during his fight with Zod, Lex Luthor tries to create a weapon against Kryptonites - and he raises the anti-Superman tensions.
Honestly, for most of the movie I was too reminded of Batman vs Joker in Dark Knight, the insane giggling, the plotting just to cause chaos... it's really a poor copy. I don't buy Affleck's Batman. He lacks the depth and also the sophistication of Nolan's Batman, and I really disliked seeing him seeing use so many guns. He was too easily swayed by his anger and hatred (all in the name of "justice") - and only the name Martha was able to snap him out of it? Urgh.
So, overall, a rather unoriginal story, characters who remain pretty 2-dimensional... and honestly, the addition of Wonder Woman was more hindering than helping the mood of the movie. Definitely not a movie that whets my appetite for more.
This is a hot take, but I love this movie. I read The Dark Knight Returns for the first time right before watching this, and Batfleck really harkens back to that Dark Knight. I’m also a big fan of this Lex Luthor, however I definitely see why people don’t like him. I really like the Knightmare sequences, as I’m a fan of the “Evil Superman” spin on stories. Overall, I think this one is overhated. 9/10
This movie is far better than it's given credit for. I think a lot of people simply completely misunderstand the story of the movie, and especially misunderstand the Martha scene, and that has completely warped the public reception of this movie. It's a lot better than people give it credit for. If you didn't like this movie, I hope you read this comment and consider rewatching the movie with these things in mind, because I think you'll end up appreciating it a lot more. Also, you MUST watch the Ultimate Edition.
At its core, it's a movie about how humanity reacts to tragedy. Ben Affleck plays a Batman who has been brought to his lowest point after the death of Robin, and then gets driven even further down after he loses a ton of people he cares about in the Metropolis battle from the end of Batman v Superman. This obviously enrages Batman. He doesn't see Superman as a friendly character. He doesn't see Superman as a man. He sees him as a monster. A totally alien, unrelatable threat of a monster whose continued existence brings the earth one step closer to destruction.
Lex Luthor has a similar worldview as Batman, although he takes some different approaches to try to accomplish the same goal. Lex Luthor I think is an interesting character whose story is just completely trashed in the theatrical cut. Lex has this elaborate plan that involves Lois that is shown in much more detail in the Ultimate Cut, and it's such a crucial element to building the story, that the theatrical version really ruins the story by tossing so much of it.
The movie focuses on the point of view from Batman and Lex's perspective that Superman is a threat. So much so, that even when we see things from Superman's perspective, it's all about having him even doubt himself. This is important, because it should push the audience into thinking hey maybe Batman and Lex are kind of right, that even if Superman sounds like a nice idea in theory, there's just so much potential destruction that could be caused by his existence that honestly yeah, his existence is something that is dangerous.
So ideally, the audience should be on Batman's side when the ultimate battle occurs, at least ideologically. While we know Superman isn't evil, we also know just how much destruction he can cause, as we've seen it ourselves in the previous movie. We don't want Batman or Lex to succeed in killing Superman, because we know more about his history than either of those characters do, and we know Batman is better than this, but we still understand Batman's pain.
In this moment, Batman sees nothing but the monster, the alien. So when Batman is about to accomplish his mission and Superman cries out for Martha, Batman can only assume that Superman is mocking the fact that Bruce was unable to save his mother as a child. This enrages him further, causing him to lash at Superman, demanding answers for why he's mocking Bruce's mother. When Lois steps in and explains that Martha is actually Superman's mother, and that he's crying out in a desperate attempt to save his mother, Batman's entire worldview has completely been shattered.
Watch Ben Affleck's face in that moment. It's like he has just been hit in the face by a pro boxer. All Batman ever saw was the monster, the alien. A violent threat against the world. He never saw this guy as a man, and especially not a man who loves his mother. Bruce saw himself in Superman for the first time in that moment, and not only that, but he saw that he was about to become the very monster he set out to destroy when he became Batman. Batman exists because a little boy lost his parents, and Batman is about to become the cause of another little boy losing his mother.
It has NOTHING to do with Bruce realizing their mothers have the same name. That has absolutely nothing to do with this scene, and it's why so many people get it wrong. It has to do with a man building up this entire worldview and having it completely shattered, about becoming the monster he meant to destroy. It is crucial in changing Batman from the murderous rampaging beast that was created after the losses he experienced, and bringing him back to the hero that people could look up to. The type of Batman you need in order to form a Justice League, for example.
Another point is Lex. A lot of people are annoyed that this isn't the Lex we all know from the comics. Well... they're right. That's not who Jessie Eisenberg is playing. He's effectively playing the son of that Lex. Think of him as Lex Jr. I personally think his performance is quite strong, and from the perspective of a young man inheriting his father's business, it's a portrayal that makes a lot of sense.
I think when you consider all of these things, and also think about just how bloody gorgeous this movie is, and the music, I think this movie ends up being very special. It's up there among the best superhero movies for me. Not as good as the Nolan movies, or the top 3 or so of the MCU, but I still rate it quite highly among the superhero movies I've seen.
It sucks, even though not as much as I would have thought. Snyder’s kitsch aesthetics and bombastic directing style work well with this kind of material, if he only tried to make things entertaining for once. Why does it always need to be so lifeless...
The biggest problem is that he tries to do too many things and set up too many stories at once, only to end up failing at each. The buildup to Batman and Superman’s fights makes no sense, and its resolution is even more ridiculous. Not to mention that what is supposed to be the climax is one of the dullest monster fights ever.
Affleck works strangely well as an older, dumber, and far more tired Bruce Wayne. His Batman has little to do with the character’s usual traits, but I am alright with each film adaptation giving a different twist. His introduction scene was good, even though he looked like a shabby wrestler in his costume. Gal Gadot’s acting is distractingly awful, but the biggest problem with her character is that she serves no use to the plot. On the other hand, Jeremy Irons earned himself a sticker for his sharp and charming take on Alfred. We are tired of the teddy bear butlers we have seen up to this point.
Watched the "Ultimate Edition" and stand by my original thoughts about this film. Even with its overly complicated plot and occasional loose ends, it's cohesive enough to support Zack Snyder's amazing visuals and action.
I've always been more attracted to DC Comics than Marvel. Which is why it's been a bummer that other than Nolan's "Dark Knight" trilogy, DC has under-performed. I did like "Man of Steel". Its scope and incredible action, to the point of almost being too much, was memorable. Its scenes have stuck with me as much as any other action movie of recent years.
I've never gone into a super hero movie expecting an incredibly tight story but always with an expectation of amazing sights and effects. And that is exactly what Zach Snyder serves up here. The positives of the film far outweighed the negatives for me. The opening action that follows Bruce Wayne racing through Metropolis, a scene stitched into Zod's terraforming attack from "Man of Steel", was inspired. And I have to say, Ben Affleck's portrayal of Bruce Wayne and Batman is nothing short of fantastic. I thought that Batman would be flat and uninteresting here, but he's been positioned as a capable member among the gods being assembled for the Justice League. I loved his hand-to-hand fights with mob members. There's a great moment when a police officer spots the Dark Knight clinging to the ceiling of a darkened room. Batman is truly scary here and called the Devil by the very people he's saved.
Superman has his own set of problems. Time has passed since the destruction in Metropolis and many blame him for the thousands killed during his battle with Zod. The political underpinnings and moral dilemmas presented here weren't exactly heady, but were accentuated by the sheer rage of Bruce Wayne and his suspicion of Superman's motives. Or at least what Superman would be capable of if dissatisfied with something or anything occurring in the world.
Yes, the fight between Superman and Batman is memorable and worth the price of admission. The performance of Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor, Jr. is not. While superheroes fly at supersonic speeds, deflect pummeling with iron and concrete, and even survive nuclear explosions, the most difficult thing to believe was that this version of Lex Luthor could plan a trip to the bathroom much less the destruction of Superman.
The final battle doesn't live up to the first half of the movie, even though Superman and Batman are joined by a feisty and very satisfying appearance from Wonder Woman. She practically steals the final scenes as she attacks the final "boss". She gets hammered but shakes it off with a smirk, clearly enjoying the chaos.
I'm going to be a bit disappointed with a lot of the criticism this movie will receive. There are some problems with story continuity, not to mention the sloppy way that the recruitment of future Justice League members is staged. Personally, I'm not exactly overwhelmed with the film, but I find myself repeatedly impressed by Zack Snyder's ability to convey amazing sights and action. I guess I'm stating that I will dismiss some loose ends for the adrenaline rush of great action and exciting visuals.
The theatrical cut of this was not great. The extended cut is fantastic. Watch the ultimate edition, it totally changed my outlook on this film, the characters and my rating jumped up. Why does DC hate snyder? Whyyyyyyyyy. If I watch all of Snyder's ultimate cuts of these DC movies they are quite possibly the greatest comic book movies out there.
So much better than the theatrical release. The few added and extended scenes add to the story, characters and world this is building. Needs more love but seems to be one of the most misunderstood films.
"Ultimate" version it's a bit long, but you have to create this universe somehow if you've slept in the last 10 years. ;)
I read all the bad reviews before watching it, and I was sure that I'm gonna hate it, but I watched it anyway and WOW...
It was an amazing experience, LOVED IT
This is a review for the Ultimate Cut (IMAX) version released in March 2021. Experience is crazy!
I love almost everything in this movie, even Ben Affleck. If it wasn’t some plot holes and Lois lane stranger decisions around around water, it would be the best super-heroe movies ever
"You're not brave. Men are brave."
This deserves a score bump after watching the ultimate edition. I really like the way Batman looked and how strong he felt while fighting. I definitely have some issues with the film such as how many lines Superman has considering his name is in the title, and Batman's detective skills are a little weak for someone who has been at it for a long time. Snyder knows how to make everything look really good, just could use some help in the writing department.
considering how much was spent on this movie.. it may be one of the worst movies ive ever seen. lazy editing, poor story telling, boring, after the first hour of basically nothingness.. you wonder why they even bothered to show up.
I know my ratings sometimes are not equal cause this movie is really good and I would watch again. However, I kept finding myself thinking this could be better. The dream fight sequences were just not super hero-like more supernatural than comic book fantasy. Then Luthor is not manic, he is more poised, devious, this guy sucks... Everything else was cool.
haven't seen the theatrical cut and i still can't believe this was three hours long, but it's a very well done movie and i don't know that any of the scenes could've been omitted—maybe bruce wayne's montage of working out.
Well the film is garbage for many reasons but the DCU as a whole just has crap villains
There's only so much additional context/runtime can do to put lipstick on Zack Snyder's deformed pig of a movie. The first hour, while absolutely depressing, is surprisingly coherent, but at the 1 hour mark, the wheels fall off as the script becomes laughable. Was he trying to make the DCEU in the same vein as The Boys on Amazon? Superman and Batman are assholes and both are unlikable. Who am I supposed to rooting for here? It just turns into disaster porn, 2012 style. Cave Troll is still hilarious. This wasn't as painful when I first saw this as I'm now able to watch bad movies and celebrate the clusterfluff that they are.
Bad bad bad bad bad
MARTHAAAAA!!! Ben affleck good but plot is all over the place.
"Tell me, do you bleed? You will".
"Well, if it bleeds, we can kill it".
Superman has become the savior of Metropolis - but also a threat to many who fear his god-like abilities could lead to disaster. Gotham City's own Batman is among them, and he goes to confront the Man of Steel - but as these two titans clash, a new evil arises - one that poses a far greater threat to mankind.
The wait is finally over everyone, but was it worth waiting three years for? kind of. But how amazing is it that two of the most iconic superheros of all time are finally facing off with each other in one single movie. Unfortunately, not everyone was excited for it after the very mixed 'Man of Steel', as fans either loved it, liked it or hated the movie. Everyone was Curious, but also worried about Zack Snyder directing this movie, since he normally choices style over substance in his movies. Everything got worse when it comes to news, as the movie kept getting delayed, some casting choices that people got really angry over and the fact that movie was too crowed with it's characters. But hey, maybe Snyder has learnt from his mistakes from Man of Steel and might actually give us the faithful Frank Miller adaptation we've been waiting for.
After seeing the movie myself and letting it sink in for a while, I don't think this movie was terrible or good, but it could have been much better then the one we got. Batman v Superman has many problems with the plot, pacing and characters, but there's also some good things in it as well that I will get to later on in the review.
I think Zack Snyder took a bold move by taking the biggest criticism of "Man of Steel" was that Superman lets way too many people die (or just wasn't heroic enough), into the main story line of Dawn of Justice. I think it's a great way of replying back to the biggest problems fans or moviegoers had with Man of Steel, as it shows that you are aware and care of what people say. In this movie, Snyder sure dose make it as close as the comic when it comes to visuals and making it seem like the comic is leaping out of the comic book page on to the big screen, but sadly, Zack Snyder did what I feared he would do and that's doing the style over substance, with pretentious symbolism and very messy directing. Just when I thought he would fix the problems from Man of Steel, but instead make bigger problems in this movie. Now I don't want to give off the impression that I'm disliking Zack Snyder, because I don't want to, as I think he is a brilliant visual director with many ideas that doesn't always work out. I'm not a hater Snyder, but I had to be honest with you.
Ben Affleck as Batman was probably the biggest "WTF" casting ever and even I was a bit turned off by it when it was first announced, since at the time I wanted Josh Brolin to be cast as Batman. But just like Michael Keaton as Batman, Daniel Craig as James Bond and Heath Ledger as The Joker, we were all wrong to judge something without seeing it and that's once again the case here, as Ben Affleck wasn't the worse part of this movie, but rather the best part. Ben Affleck absolutely nailed it as Batman and I'm glad he proved everyone wrong. It's always a pleasure seeing annoying fanboys being proven wrong (like always). I can't wait to see that solo Batman movie starring Ben Affleck.
The fight scenes between Batman & Superman was really short and I wish it was a little longer, but it was enjoyable. Jeremy Irons as Alfred was excellent and perfect casting choice. Henry Cavill did a decent job playing Superman and the music in the film was pretty good. Gal Gadot did fine as Wonder Women, but her acting was a bit wooden and I hope she dose improve in the upcoming Wonder Woman movie that's coming out in 2017.
Now for the problems: Jesse Eisenberg was god awful as Lex Luther. I don't understand how some people think he's performance was good in this movie, because he was really cringe worthy and laughable. People will find away to defend his performance and over analysis the sh*t out of it to the point where it's really reaching for it. I don't put all the blame on Eisenberg, since it's mostly the directing and the writing that's the blame. It's awful to see a good actor like Jesse Eisenberg sadly being miss cast in a role that should have went to someone else.
Doomsday is in this movie and this isn't a spoiler as it's already been spoiled in the trailers and advertisements. Doomsday is one of the best villains in DC comics, because it's best known for being the one that killed Superman, but in this movie he's nothing but a big CGI monster that was shoehorned in the last few minutes. Also Doomsday looks like that troll monster from Fellowship of the Ring mixed with a Ninja Turtle. It's that bad.
The film itself is joyless and kind of dull at times, because every superhero movie (Mostly DC films) always try to be that dark and gritty movie that it's never going to be. This is 2 hours & 22 minutes of DC trying to catch up with Marvel, now I'm not comparing this to Marvel movies like some critics are, but it's very noticeable that this movie is leeching off the Marvel formal of setting up future movies.
Overall Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is a very messy movie that really dose lose focus on what it's doing. This is called "Batman v Superman", how is this movie not the most awesome thing in the world? it's kind of disappointing just thinking about it. If you like this movie and disagree with me on the problems I had with this movie, then that's fine and I'm glad you enjoyed the movie better than I did.
The ultimate edition is definitely an upgrade from the theatrical cut... character development, more depth to the characters (specially Superman) doesn’t feels rush etc... I won’t be seeing the theatrical cut again...
This could have been such a good movie.
This movie is the superhero equivalent of watching a WWE match.
It's dumb, theatrical, fake, sensationalist and schlocky, but it presents itself as hard, cool and meaningful.
So, it's really no surprise that critics trashed this, and certain portions of the audience embraced it.
Pros:
- The action sequences that don’t involve a lot of CGI are great.
- Ben Affleck’s performance as Batman & Jeremy Irons as Alfred. I’ll also say that I like Cavill as Superman more than most.
- Some visual flair at a few points
- Score, especially the Wonder Woman theme.
Cons:
- Incoherent. It has too many threads, many scenes don’t connect to each other or don’t progress the ‘story’. We know it’s possible to do a narrative that resolves around a bunch of subplots, but in that case you need a strong throughline. Just look at Infinity War and how Thanos & the infinity stones tie the entire movie together. This film just has no structure to it, and whatever structure that might’ve been in there at some point is removed through the inclusion of things like Wonder Woman, Doomsday, unnecessary dream sequences, etc.
- Some really nonsensical story choices. I’m not just talking about the Martha scene and how that becomes unintentionally hilarious because of its execution, or the spear scene with Lois, or the death of Superman which has no dramatic weight. Let’s also not forget how the (hypocritical) motivations they’d built up for the two heroes became irrelevant when they decided to just have the villain kidnap Superman’s mom and thereby force him to fight Batman.
- Mischaracterized & underdeveloped main characters. Especially Batman and Lex Luthor aren’t faithful to the spirit of what those characters should be.
- The final action sequence is a visual assault on the eyes, and I don’t mean that in a positive way.
- Jesse Eisenberg’s acting is awful, and his performance doesn’t fit with the tone of the film. Gal Gadot’s also pretty bad, but she isn’t in the film that much, so I have less of a problem with that.
- Visually ugly. Yes, I know that’s unpopular to say, and I acknowledge that there are some visual highlights, which look great in a clipshow or trailer. However, when you take out a scene, especially one that takes place during daytime, it’s not exactly a good looking film.
- I respect the tone that this film was going for. I’m perfectly fine with taking a more realistic approach to these characters. We’ve seen it work in The Dark Knight trilogy and the Daredevil show. The difference is that they still knew how to keep the pace up, despite having a more serious dramatic tone. This film is painfully slow.
- Some of the dialogue is really overwritten, trying too hard to be lofty and deep.
3.5/10
Well, I finally got around to seeing it... again... for the third time.
However, this time I saw it with my dad, who isn't the biggest superhero fan in the world. Much to my surprise and enjoyment, he actually really liked it. Considering he's never been a big fan of any Marvel or DC properties, he said this was his favorite portrayal of both Superman and Batman, beating out all previous performances. He even liked Jessie Eisenberg, which is what I was worried about. Yes, I only showed him the Ultimate Edition. There's no sense in showing him the butchered mess that was the theatrical cut. Even he wondered what they could've possibly cut and couldn't imagine 30 whole minutes being chopped out. It was fun getting to see it again, and I understood even more things this time around. Now that I knew what was going, I could actually sit back and enjoy the movie for what it is. Still remains one of my favorite superhero movies to date.
The theatrical release was turgid, undercooked, bleak nonsense. 4/10
The Ultimate edition is much more enjoyable and rounded. The story makes sense and the flow of the film is much better. It's epic now. 7/10
Why not a higher rating? Casting. I cannot abide Henry Cavill as Clark Kent. I can barely tolerate Amy Adams as Lois Lane. And Jesse as Luthor... Just no.
6/10 as a combined rating across all - but watch the Ultimate version only. Everything else is a waste of your time.
You want a epic movie... But it is so so...
"Batman v Superman is a great film and a spectacle that marks a new era for superheroes."
On rewatch(es) of this giant (I’m definitely talking about the Ultimate Edition) I realised how unwise it had been for the part of the Studio to misjudge its potential. Today we viewers are more open to Netflix and binge watch of giant tv shows in a day. So we would have really appreciated this phenomenal screening of the Caped Crusader and the Man of Steel.
A complete clusterf**k, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is overstuffed and poorly executed. Still, it's incredibly exciting to see DC's biggest titans going at it. As Superman grows increasingly concerned about the Gotham vigilante known as the Bat, Bruce Wayne trains to take down Superman; having seen his frighteningly destructive power firsthand. And while this main story-arc is solid, there are half a dozen subplots cluttering up the film, making it hard to follow what's going on. Ben Affleck proves to be excellently cast as an older, war-torn Batman, and Gal Gadot does an impressive job as Wonder Woman. Additionally, Zack Snyder’s directing is visually stunning, creating some extraordinary imagery, and the score by Hans Zimmer and Junkie LX is riveting, and brings a lot of tension and suspense to the film. Yet as thrilling and action-packed as Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is, it’s constantly tripping over itself.
It seems ironic to have the word ‘Dawn’ in the title of Zack Snyder’s latest superhero epic, given how little light there is the film, both figuratively and literally. There is a lot of moping about, and a perpetual vibe of ‘oh no, this is the end of the world,’ as if Snyder is cribbing from his Dawn of the Dead remake (there’s that word again, dawn, implying a source of light that is tragically absent from any of Snyder’s auteuristic affectations). The iconoclastic treatment of Superman owes much, also, to a previous entry in Snyder’s visually stunning but incoherent oeuvre, Watchmen. The core visual inspiration for Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice comes from The Dark Knight Returns comic series by Frank Miller, whose 300 was also turned into a film by Snyder earlier in his career.
Those first three blockbusters by Snyder, Dawn of the Dead, 300 and Watchmen, were all pretty much lifted from existing works of visual storytelling, be they a film or a comic book, and all Snyder had to do was add his intolerable grainy close-ups and slow motion blood splatter. When left to his own devices, we get the incomprehensible Sucker Punch, which is a series of big budget dream sequences distracting from a rather tawdry pastiche of Girl, Interrupted and One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest told almost entirely in a paradoxically shiny yet dirty toilet. He also gave us Man of Steel, and rather than use some of the incredible Superman stories already told on screen or in comics, he decided to plough his own trough with phallic spaceships, a Kevin Costner transplanted from Field of Dreams, and a climax cribbed from one of Toho’s Godzilla movies.
In his search for inspirational visuals to jam into the ponderous script for Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (yes, I am going to use the entire title every time I reference it, because the unwieldy moniker is a delicious metaphor for this stupidly overblown film) Snyder has become tragically self-referential. There is a scene early in the movie where Amy Adams as Lois Lane slithers around in a bathtub that appears to be in one of the leftover gleaming but grimy bathrooms from Sucker Punch. The titular fight between the heroes takes place in a toilet that is equally grubby, but is only glistening from all the water splashed around. (I’m not even going to begin to examine the homoerotic undertones of two icons of masculinity writhing around in onesies on the floor in a urinal). It’s not just the bathrooms, either, as during the dreary first NINETY MINUTES of the nearly three hour film, there are no action sequences, save for those experienced by Batman when having a nigh nighs; yes, that’s right, a string of big budget dream sequences a la Sucker Punch.
Being a sequel to Man of Steel, it can’t help but borrow the visual language of that film, most notably in the opening sequences where Ben Affleck’s Bruce Wayne interacts with the human cost of the destructive climax to the previous film. Also, Snyder has another crack at his ‘Superman as Jesus in space’ image, while simultaneously paying homage to one of the more affecting moments from Frank Miller’s The Dark Knight Returns. It’s this kind of confused layering that hampers much of the film. During one of the many unnecessary dream sequences (which feel like they’ve been jammed in as an ersatz defibrillator to the floundering story) Snyder uses images from Grant Morrison’s Batman 666, Rock of Ages and Final Crisis stories as well as nods to Crisis on Infinite Earths (Wolfman/Perez), the New 52 Justice League (Johns/Lee) and the video game Injustice.
The now-ubiquitous Batman origin gets yet another airing, Snyder’s over-graded, CGI treatment of it reminding me more of the risible TV show Gotham than Nolan’s or Miller’s understated efforts. The overuse of these reliable, and in some cases very worn, elements gives the whole film a sense of deja vu, and over the unnecessarily long running time, you start to wonder if you haven’t seen this film already. There is an explosion taken from Emmerich’s Independence Day; Eisenberg’s hammy performance as Luthor could be any twitchy genius villain in any number of cheaper films; the CGI monster at the end looks like it has been pasted in from Jackson’s Lord of the Rings or Letterier’s Incredible Hulk; the excruciating capital-D dramatic dialogue in the script by Chris Terrio and David S. Goyer is painfully reminiscent of Ang Lee’s Hulk; and all of this added to the fact that there is little of the film that wasn’t shown on the internet in the desperate marketing push, means you probably HAVE seen it all before. In fact, the only scenes in the film not aired in a trailer or on a talk show are the scenes of the fight between Batman and Superman, which also isn’t a surprise, because THAT’S THE TITLE OF THE MOVIE. Although, they did wrong-foot me a little with the title, because there’s no dawn, and there’s no justice. If there was, Zack Snyder would not be allowed to make movies.
2,5 hours of my life I won't get back. What a horrible movie this was.
Martha! Martha! Like wtf?
The only good thing about this movie was that I stopped with the super heroes genre after this one. It freed up some time for decent movies where the screenwriters don't think their viewers are idiots who will accept everything.
Just thanks Zack Snyder. The best superhero movie I've ever seen in my life.
This Movie was Not Wack, Crap or Shitty.. It was very good
A few mishaps.. They rushed Wonder Woman's introduction.
I wasn't Satisfied with the plot and they only gave doomsday a cameo.
Other than that great movie to watch
this movie is very ugly but eisemberg had a great performance
Great film, loved it , 10/10
I had zero expectations from this as a whole but was pleasantly surprised going forward. But Ben c'mon please let go, it's over, stop trying to act
I'm lost for words. i don't know who to blame for this shitty movie. Zack Synder, Chris Terrio, or David Goyer?
The only exciting part about this movie was the fight scene between Batman and Superman, everything else was crap.
What a boring piece of crap. What a waste. Awful. if you wanna see Cavill be awesome watch mi6.
A great cult classic. Full of emotion and depth.
This movie is just nonsense! Too bad to see two major superheroes wasted for such... thing! It lacks of integrity, the plot is inconsistent!
Good to see two of the superhero character that everyone admires of fighting eachother futility. Martha scene was a trash even tho execution was kinda good. Movie depicts a lot of emotions together like altogether that literally confuses sometimes even make the audience bored but indeed gotta say the fight scene was impeccable!. And climax I sorta felt like director had no idea of ending this movie and he just messed up!.
Good but high propensity to feel the lag but c'mon it's Snyder's movie !!!!.
Epic. One of the best superhero movies.
Well I think this isn't a good movie even though it has a couple of good moments (including Jesse Eisenbergs performance as Lex Luthor) . However, it is not bad as its reputation. I cannot see why this movie is rated so bad while all those Avengers movies are stated to be good.
The beginning was way to long and the ending unsatisfying. However, the action sequences make up for a lot!
Nowhere near Nolan's Trilogy but watching the movie wasn't a waste of time, either. On the other hand I'm probably not going to watch it again...
The best thing about this movie was the 7 minutes of Wonder Woman. Like MAN OF STEEL the storytelling was choppy and unfocused - lots of hints of what was to come but no compelling story. The premise of Batman versus Superman is just idiotic, the fight scenes gratuitous, and the bleak tone of the whole movie just alienated the viewer. I can only give it a 6 (fair) out of 10. Thank heavens for WONDER WOMAN - if they learned some story telling lessons from her movie then there is hope for JUSTICE LEAGUE. If they just shove a whole bunch of elements in the pot without a cohesive narrative, some human exchange and some character lightness, then I think the DCEU (DC Extended Universe) is in deep trouble. [Superhero, Action, Adventure]
Martha!
Now since that is out of the way, I kinda liked this more than I remembered. I think I'm going to bump it up from a 6 to 7. I saw the original cut in theaters and I saw the Ultimate edition as soon as it came out and it didn't really change my opinion on the movie. Now that I've had a year to forget about it and I'm getting ready for Justice League I'm starting to think this movie is alright. Now I'm not saying it is great but it can be entertaining. There are so many small things that are wrong with the movie that keep it back from being one of the better superhero movies. Lex Luther still sucks. I really wish they would of cast Bryan Cranston and gone a different direction with Lex. It was so lazy to introduce all the other heros with 30 second clips. Snyder couldn't think of any way better. Come on I mean the subtitle is called "Dawn of Justice". Wonder Woman is great but I forgot how small a role she has in this movie. Luckily she has her own movie to shine. Also Batman's line "I thought she was with you" has got to be one of the stupidest lines. HE LITERALLY EMAILED HER LIKE 2 HOURS AGO.
+1 for Wonder Woman :)
-1 for missing logic in the plot
-1 for damn moral relativism. Good is good and bad is bad. 10 commandment (The ORIGINAL!) says what is good and what no.
This movie doesn't really make me like Batman all that much. But man am I ready to watch Wonder Woman tomorrow.
Most people that love all things super will not be sad to see this one go dusty one the shelf. Bad, acting, writing, and plot. what's left you ask? Just another badly thought of mash up that left most people dum founded. How could you mess this one up so badly.
I thought it was pretty good. Don't understand all the hate. It was too long, and Eisenberg was miscast, but other than that I enjoyed it. Waaaay better than Suicide Squad.
As I write this review I have just had a thoroughly disappointing movie experience and it so just happens that I have some strong feelings about the source material for this movie so be prepared for a bit of ranting and a few more “adult” words than usual.
I have to say that I bought this movie only because I felt I wanted it in my collection just for it to be complete. I was really expecting to be, shall we say, not impressed. A movie about Batman and Superman, heroes that I grew up with, fighting is not my kind of movie.
In the end I realized that my expectations of crappines was not enough. I really disliked this movie. In short succession this movie turns several of my childhood heroes to bad guys and the greatest superman bad guy into a unstable hippie-like jerk that goes through the movie behaving like he is a drug addict. So basically this movie went drown the drains for me straight away and then I have not even gotten started about the plot. Actually I felt so annoyed over this crap that I actually spent time taking notes while I was watching.
Let me see what I noted. Lex Luther is a fucking joke. Alfred, the same. Jimmy Olsen a fucking CIA agent? You got to be fucking kidding me! And not only does he screw Lois Lane but gets himself shot after a few seconds of screen time.
Same stupid nonsense about XXX being too powerful, is a threat and needs to be government controlled that has been used in hundreds. if not thousands, of crappy low and high budget action movies. I hate that crap. It is stupid, stupid, stupid.
Weird and totally uninteresting dream scenes, what the fuck did the writer smoke? If they wanted to pad the movie it a) was a crappy way of doing it and b) why? With over three hours (Ultimate Edition) it is way too long for such a crappy movie anyway.
Oh, here is a (somewhat) positive note at least. It was indeed rather funny that they had chosen CNN to spew out the nonsense conspiracy theories about Superman being responsible for the bomb in the wheelchair. Fake news anyone?
I had a little bit of enjoyment of the movie during the last part of the movie when it finally turned into a bit of action. Batman’s car and plane was cool. The action, once Batman getting knocked on his head enough to get to his senses again, was a nice chunk of CGI goodness. That I have to admit.
Okay, after three, mostly painful, hours the movie finally comes to an end. And what an end. Meh!!! Not only was it a crappy ending but they managed to drag it out forever with excruciatingly boring scenes.
I am sure a lot of the above can be said to be subjective. For instance my dislike of the way my childhood characters where treated. I am not a professional reviewer though so this is my personal take of the movie. If you don’t like it, fine with me and good for you but do not feel obliged to tell me about it.
This film is awesome. The Best Of 2016.
I almost expected some corny 80's music as Bruce works out hard to get ready to fight Superman. Besides isn't training hard to face Superman just stupid ?
Just watch the ultimate edition it is way better than the original version.
I don't know what I just watched
The film DC heads like to call a masterpiece. I wish it was but how can it be when all the same flaws are still in it. Except now, Jimmy Olsen who Sueprman would save in anything else is killed in the beginning.
Of course though, he saves Lois like 3 times. Plus Superman is supposed to be almost as fast as the Flash. Yet, he just sits there and broods as a court room full of people blows up around him. If Lois was there would he have saved her ? Yes!
While Jesse Eisenberg gives a douche performance as Lex Luther where he's half Carrey's Riddler and he also wants to be Ledger's Joker. The scene where Martha Kent is taken by Lex. Feels straight out of Dark Knight too.
You also have weird dream sequences just thrown in. As well Clark climbing a mountain to have a weird conversation with Jonathan Kent. This movie is a depressing mess either way. DC heads get mad when you say it's too dark. Well by that I mean depressing and not entertaining enough in any version!
nice movie but little bit disappointed it was to long and the sence were to long and Milked out(dutch expression).
A Ultimate Edition está mesmo magnífica.
Contém algumas novas situações, surpresas e acima de tudo conta muito bem e com calma esta história sobre Superman. Sim, desta vez resulta muito mais para Superman que lhe é feita justiça, do que para o Batman.
Tem 3 horas mas... que filmaço espetacular, que irei rever por diversas vezes. Tao bom!
8/10 Muito Bom
This is hard... For the first time in my life I didn't like a superheroes movie. Thanks God I didn't go to the cinema to watch it. A lot of time just to watch a few minutes of real fighting, what of course weren't enought. Batman's argument was really bad. Good actors but really bad writing. YOU CAN'T KILL SUPERMAN, YOU ASS HOLES. The only good thing in the movie are the actors (Henry and Gal were a pleasure for the eyes).
A lot of disrespectfully for a movie.
See you in hell.
I was surprised how dark this movie was. I mean, I liked it, a lot, but it was pretty dark.
what did I just watch? at least the extended version has some story in it, although not very coherent. Eisenberg must be the worst Lex ever. He looks like Joker and makes Lex a ridicule.
maybe a two parts shold be better... i don't like the movie
I saw this movie on April 2016 and at that moment, as many others, thought that was an incomplete film with a lot of action but little explanation and little sense for a lot of things. Today I've seen the extended version of it and it is the complet version of the film that should have been displayed on cinemas! I won't say that having all the lost pieces of that puzzle makes now this the best movie ever but at least makes sense, it is more enjoyable and for me, at least, scores an 8.
It was the funniest movie of my life!
The movie was shit, but nice image quality and i liked the stylization (same as in latest NFS game btw). Only kinda good character was the Lex. And he even quoted Lolita, and that is always plus point. So in total MEH 5/10.
Also hoist cable cutter for controls of the flying thingy was nice.
The story is a mess, Warner Bros. and clearly Zack does not know how to make proper flim
As a fan of DC Universe I have only one thing to say - thnnk you Zack Snyder for the awesome superhero movie.
What happened mannnn...and Man of Steel was so good.... And then ppphhhffrrrrttt...it started out great and then slowly fizzled... I may give it another shot or maybe not...the Dark Knight may have ruined me on Batman movies
Way way way too long. This movie was all over the place with the plot.
The fight scene in the end was rather memorable... By far the best part of the movie.
We as a society need to stop giving Jesse Eisenberg chances.
stupidity, stupidity, stupidity, stupidity, stupidity ^4 grade
At three hours it's a long slog, but adds much more character and story development. The cinematic version was a mess, and had so many plot holes.
I don't like Batman killing people, but I do like the plot line of this interpretation of Batman being jaded (although Batman is kinda always jaded). It gives me hope that the standalone Affleck Batman movie will deal with interesting some themes, and explore plot lines not delt with before in Batman films.
I would encourage people to watch the extended version over the former.
Not bad but 3 hours is too long
This is how to ruin a movie!!!!
Man of Steel wasn't a bad movie, it just ended up being mediocre. Bvs DoJ was a bad movie. Whoever wrote the script and story should be fired. I get the dark and gritty Batman, but he was downright emotionally unstable. No one could get through to him, even Alfred, with all the reasonable and obvious arguments, but saying his mother's name helped him immediately reconcile all his differences? Am I also to believe that, for 12 years, Superman never made any real attempt to talk to the public? He was in such an emo mood he couldn't figure out maybe he should actually try and tell people his side, his thoughts, or something else? Eisenberg didn't do a bad job, but he didn't really work as Luthor. they basically turned him into a Joker-esque figure, and it didn't fit the feel. They needed a General Zod-Presque villain for the tone of the film. The movie definitely made some attempt at saying something important... but what that is isn't clear.
This movie was great Ben is the best Batman ever!!!
Wow, after the trailer I wasn´t sure if I should watch this but this was better than the last 5 Marvels (save Deadpool) combined. I was leaning towards giving it a 10 but there is one thing I really hated and that was the stupid monster. Why has it always to be a huge monster to fight ? Yeah, the title is misleading I agree with the comments on the fact there isn´t much of a fight going on between them. But should that be the movie´s biggest flaw I can live with it. Otherwise the dark atmosphere works great and without all those hero worshipping the characters get so much more depth. I hope they can follow that up because this made me want more.
This movie is such a mess. It's not even worth your time. You would be better off reading the wiki notes for this one. Wonder Woman is the best part of this and the only reason it gets an extra star from me. The actual "Batman Vs. Superman" fight is a joke. It seemed to me more of a film about a pissing contest. I'm so disappointed with this.
I lost 15 years of my life watching this movie.
Not only the most stupid Batman ever made, it's probably the dumbest film ever made!
First of all...this is a short review about the extended version of this movie. I never bothered to watch this one in the cinema, so I thought I would go for the version most people think are the better one.
So...what do I think?
Well...
Batman v Superman is not really very good. It's not horrendously bad, but it didn't really keep me interested. Especially the parts with Superman seemed misplaced somehow, and there are some stupid, illogical turns that threw me off somewhat.
I have no idea why, but Henry Cavills Superman is NOT my cup of tea. Don't like it...
Ben Affleck as Batman (which I thought I was going to hate) was actually quite good. Affleck actually pulled off being dark and moody. Who knew?
The rest of the cast was so and so. Eisenberg as Luthor was just a bit off. Gadot as Wonder Woman was ok, but mainly there to set things up for the next movie. And Jeremy Irons as Alfred? Well...that one was actually one of the things that were great about this movie.
The story in itself is not that bad, but there are some questionable turns that made no sense...even for a superhero movie. The effects seemed a bit cheap, but things actually improved towards the climax.
Would I watch it again? Not very likely...
Would I recommend other people to watch it? Hmm...probably not unless the person in question is an avid superhero fan.
Hard to enjoy with all these plotholes, either known or newly introduced. Here's a list:
1) Glasses are a perfect disguise
2) A hoarse voice is a good disguise, too.
3) Who's that muscular journalist?
4) Remember that dangerous alien ship? Yeah, let's just leave it there for everybody to enter.
5) Two guys above law complaining that each other is acting above law.
6) Where was that green stone coming from, again?
7) Was Jesse Eisenberg sure he is not on set for Zombieland or the Social Network?
8) "I can hear my girlfriend fart from 3000 km away, cool ey? Yo, where's my mom?"
9) Let's not shoot his ma until this bat dude is here.
10) US military stressing morals & ethics (after using drones). Seriously? oÔ
11) Martha apparently is the new "Adrian".
12) Aquaman. Full stop. Jason Momoa. Full stop.
13) Speaking of cast: Props to Henry "Muscle suit" Cavill. Boo to Jeremy "You're just not Michael Caine" Irons and Ben "always sobbing because my parents are still dead" Affleck
And that list goes on. What a waste of time...
This movie is so dumb. The "fight" between B and S is ridiculous, Lex is so overactet and these Martha- scene is a insult for each fan.
As someone who is not entirely familiar with the DC universe this was a very confusing and packed movie. Sadly the characters made decisions where you think "I'd never be that stupid" which made me throw the entire plot out of the window. Visually, spectacular. The portrayal of the characters was also amazing. Especially loved Lex.
I think it'll be a good film for the fans. For the not-fans, go in expecting a superhero-filled action movie where the story doesn't make much sense.
Pretty decent movie, but not as good as Man of Steel. Too many story to cover in 3 hours, they should've done the first half as a Batman standalone film, then the second half as BvS.
Still gotta sleep but want to warh batnan vs. superman!
Waste of time. Worst Batman actor ever.
And the plot is boring as hell.
I don't know what made me think I'd hate this less on video. Instead it just amplifies everything wrong with this clunker. I just gotta move on man, ya know?
Well that was a surprise, really fun movie. There were so many things I was unsure of before seeing but it ties together nicely. The characters were really good, Affleck makes a good Batman with a decent Bat-Voice, Gal Godot, well she's just perfect, Eisenberg yeah, great. Forget the fanboi's and the haters, just sit back, relax and enjoy.
This wasn't a terrible Batman/Superman movie, but it wasn't great, either.
In particular, Jesse Eisenberg was a terrible pick for Lex Luthor. He played it exactly the same as he played Mark Zuckerberg. It really was basically the same character.
just interested in some clue that leading to the next story.
A disappointing mess from the opening credits
"Your Mom's Martha?
Dude! MY Mom's Martha too!
We should be friends now!"
Are you fucking kidding me?
When I was a kid, I still remember the first time I read Frank Miller's "The Dark Knight Returns". As a child whose idea of Superman & Batman was Christopher Reeve & Adam West, it was a revelation. Dark, brooding and so far removed from the movie and TV versions of these characters, yet so much more interesting for it. I remember dreaming of a movie version of Frank Miller's Batman & Superman.
This is why it was so surprising to me that when this film was announced, I wasn't more excited about it - here finally was "The Dark Knight Returns" adapted for the screen. The problem, was that I had watched 'Man of Steel' and wasn't enamoured with Snyder's vision - I felt that while that movie had had the potential to be good (the trailer's had made it look awesome!) it had failed to deliver on the fun - it just wasn't as fun as a Superman film should be. Nolan's Batman films were FUN, although the first one was a little weak, The Dark Knight found the perfect formula and ran with it. Dark and brooding, yes, but with humour and fun too. I never felt the fun with the Man of Steel - we're talking about a flying alien here! - and It was with this feeling that I sat down to watch Batman vs Superman.
It's worth noting here that I watched the Ultimate Edition at home - I never saw the theatrical cut that everyone had hated so much - but its safe to say my expectations weren't high. Having watched it, I am pleased to be able to say that it I actually enjoyed it way more than I expected, and it was not the complete train-wreck I feared. My conclusion is that it still lacks a sense of fun, and takes itself too seriously, but SOMEWHERE on the editing room floor is an absolutely AMAZING film. With the right editing this could have been something incredible. I've always felt that Snyder's films tend to be all style but no substance. While he has definitely matured in his ability to create multi-dimensional characters he still has a way to go. The whole Martha coincidence was just terrible writing, but that being said, there was actually a lot to like here (Ben Affleck makes a great Miller Batman. He nailed it.
Pure spectacle, although dark and gloomy.
I might have missed out but after the first 45 min of the movie I turned it off. It felt as if they started about three different stories, the one from Batman, the one from Superman and they threw in Lex Luthor (who was actually the only good thing I found in those first 45 min) I still feel like Ben Affleck is just not right for the part of Bruce/Batman. I was bored throughout all of the Superman scenes and the stories didn't seem to connect, maybe they were going to a bit later but the first 45 min of this movie needed to grab me not bore me. I felt like falling asleep so I turned it off. What I did like was the CGI, they obviously went all out when they blew up those first buildings and as I said Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor, he caught my attention, sadly not long enough.
I love the batman movies, never much cared for Superman but this was a total let down to the previous Batman magic.
Shout by vmollieBlockedParent2024-04-03T22:33:49Z
First time watching this been on my watchlist for a long time. Didn't expect much from the reviews and ratings but I actually enjoyed it, for a movie that was 3 hours long it actually went by pretty quickly the only scenes that were a bit overdone in my opinion were the dream scenes. The introduction to the characters in the upcoming movie was done pretty nicely. My king Henry Cavill is irreplaceable as Superman I don't know how to describe it he is just perfect and born for this role, Ben Affleck was solid but the actor that suprised me the most was Jesse Eisenberg he embodied that role perfectly. I'm giving this movie a 7.4/10