I truly can't believe how good this show is. Every episode is better than the last so far. I mean I'm actually shocked. I wasn't expecting to like it at all.
what the hell. i thought it was just gonna be one of those episodes focused on family drama... WHAT THE HELL
just wow what an amazing episode :open_mouth:
I knew chaos was brewing the moment I realized I wasn't watching alone, THE WATCHER WAS WATCHING TOO!....and this episode delivered
Another great episode. A lot of plots can be explored after this one!! It's great to see and remember why you adore the X-Men.
Story telling is amazing. They don't brush over the complexities in relationships and they don't forget to show case the dynamics of the mutants. As individuals and as powerhouses. So many elements at play in such a short episode. Wished these were all released at once for me to binge!
One of the best episodes of x men. Period. Holy catfish it was good. Also did anyone notice APOCALPYSE in the opening. Holy catfish this episode was good.
I think this is the best episode of all xmen tas. Secondly I love how the music changes completely at the end of the episode. Little things like that make this show fire
[8.310] Holy hell! This episode took a sharp left turn and completely knocked my socks off.
In truth, I wasn’t on board with this one until the “Godzilla Sentinel” showed up, more or less. A lot of “Remember It” was some pretty tepid romantic melodrama that balled up into, if you can believe it, a love septagon.
So Magneto had a thing with Rogue and wants her to be his queen. Rogue is tempted given their past and the fact that they can make contact but still cares for Gambit. Gambit loves Rogue with the full force of his heart, but is flirting a bit with Madelyne Pryor. Madelyne Pryor is having psychic dalliance with Cyclops on the astral plane. Cyclops and Jean are still trying to work out what their relationship means after this big clone saga. And Jean is so mixed up that she plants one on Wolverine.
That's a lot! And it doesn’t even count Morph’s sublimated crush on Logan, which thankfully isn’t thrown into the multi-person knot that tangles up the first half of this episode. I don’t mind romance, or the friction that comes with it. Romance and love triangles were a significant part of the original X-Men series as well. But the execution here wasn’t particularly good.
Some of that is the love octagon that the show spins up in a short amount of time. The Magneto/Rogue/Gambit thing really should have been the priority given what takes place in the rest of the episode, and deserved as much real estate as X-Men ‘97 could afford. Everything about the Pryor/Cyclops/Jean/Wolverine side of the house feels rushed, and the business with the reporter doesn't help.
But some of that might be able to be overcome if the dialogue and performances were better. Much of the lovers’ quarrels here lack the ring of truth in the way the characters speak with one another. “Real people don’t talk that way” is a fool’s gold criticism, because of course television dialogue is stylized to meet the moment. But the way the various X-Men speak to one another is tin-eared and mannered in a way that detracts from the authenticity and rawness the show seems to want to convey in these interactions, which is a big drawback for them.
That said, whether it’s dialogue or performance or both, there’s also a stiltedness in how the lines are delivered. Going to these places with genuine emotion is hard, but across the board, the performers can't quite gin up the emotion necessary to feel true when so many of the X-Men are breaking one another’s hearts.
That said, I’m still a sucker for the Rogue-Gambit relationship, so parts of this one hit me like gangbusters. I’m sure you can guess which.
The Rogue/Magneto business still wigs me out a bit. The May-December romance is still a bit gross, and Magneto’s electromagnetism blocking Rogue’s powers is still a bit cheap. In truth, I assumed this whole thing was some kind of fake out, so seeing them pull the trigger on it was a little unexpected.
All that said, I can appreciate the idea of it, at least. Magneto would not be above abusing a mentor relationship to make it a romantic one. (Granted, I’m not sure that's the intended read.) I can also appreciate the idea of Rogue gravitating toward someone she can actually make contact with, no matter what problems there may be, given how hard having to avoid closeness with loved ones has been for her. And even if I’m icky on the relationship, their mid-air dance is the most sensual and passionate X-Men has ever been, which counts for something! The animation in this episode is a mixed bag, with the pre-action sequences being particularly questionable, so that's a particular achievement.
And while the tortured romance thing makes me roll my eyes a bit, there’s something true and tragic about Rogue and Gambit’s relationship. You can understand why Gambit would be hurt, why he’d protest that their love is more than just skin deep. You can understand why Rogue doesn’t want to be tortured by never being able to touch someone she loves, and the political practicality of becoming Magento’s queen. And you can understand Rogue giving it the old college try, with the passionate dance with Magnus in front of everyone, only to realize that no matter what she tells herself, that partnership isn’t the one she really wants. The volume is high and the emotional tone is overblown, but there’s truth at the core of this corner of the love octagon, and it works.
Until the villains destroy everything.
The contrast between the bliss and sanctuary Genosha offers for most of the episode, and the utter devastation that follows once the Godzilla Sentinel invades, is completely jarring, in the best way.
The attack has meaning because Genosha does seem like a mutant paradise. There are tributes to Xavier and Magneto. There is good ol’ Nightcrawler, a goodwill ambassador to guide our friends around. And there is a ruling council, filled with a nice sample familiar faces from X-Men’s past, including a human, suggesting that in the wake of Professor X’s death, the mutants really did come together.
Not for nothing, the show’s creative team also does a wonderful job of making the mutant nation feel distinctive. The visual designs of the buildings and shops and decor; the way they use their abilities to dance and play and move in a space meant for them; the way they float and flit seem uninhibited in a place just for them all sells Genosha as the sanctuary they’ve been waiting for.
So it means something when the sentinel, the original enemy of the X-Men in this series, returns to rend it asunder. The last gasps of Cable to his mother (a reveal I hope we have more time for later in the show) comes with an appropriate sense of desperation. Too many of us who grew up with the original show have lived through seemingly normal days and fun events destroyed by sudden tragedy. The sentinel attack has that tone, and it’s gut-wrenching in action.
It’s also, in a strange way, cool as hell. Again, I don’t know what to do with this show’s animation. Sometimes, it includes stiff movements and awkward character expressions that make it feel like a high class flash cartoon. Other times, in sequences like the X-Men defending their fellow mutants against the super-sentinel, the fluidity, epic scope, and attention to detail make it feel downright Akira-esque. Maybe the animators are just saving all their juice for the big sequences, but whatever the deal is, when they bring their A-game, they blow you away.
The blinding blast of cataclysmic green light raining down on fighter and bystander alike, the heroism of Kurt Wagner diving in front of the beam to protect our champions, the force of Magneto using his powers to smack this mechanical demon in the face, Rogue and Gambit racing into battle, the Cajun combatant bursting in to rescue to Morlocks, Rogue bursting through one of the automatons’ shoulders, Magneto saving Leech within an improvised shell and telling the poor child not to be afraid. They are all marvelous, momentous, jaw-dropping moments in a kinetic finale that trades the gentle peace of Genosha’s new dawn for terrifying panic and a wave of utter destruction. If you could watch without gripping the edge of your chair, you’re a stronger man than I.
And of course, there is the shock, glory, and tragedy of Gambit’s sacrifice. Whatever their hang-ups, Gambit still loves Rogue, and his willingness to put his life in harm’s way to preserve hers shows the depths of that affection, requited or not. The moment where he leaps up to take out the demon, and it impales him like nothing, Remy’s limp body drooping from a mechanized tentacle, takes your breath away with the sudden surprise of it. And there may be no more triumphant, if sad moment in the series than Gambit using the spearing of his own guts to harness his powers and destroy the bastion of mechanized death that unleashed hell upon his loved ones and countrymen.
Therein lies the greatest irony of “Remember It”. Gambit and Rogue debate whether their love is enough, but in the end, Remy will make the ultimate sacrifice if it will save the woman he cares so deeply for. And what drove them apart despite their feelings was that they couldn’t make contact, only for the moment when they can finally be close to one another only coming because Gambit is no longer alive to be hurt by his lover’s touch. The romances of “Remember It” stumble and fumble their way through much of this episode, but by god, they finish strong.
The setup, The music build-up, The payoff.
Y'all, we have a hit here.
100% FIRE! I can't even review this because so MANY things happened in this ONE episode. I thought this was going to be a little love triangle(s) episode but this? If you've watch the episode you know what I mean.
Holy f#%^. What an incredible episode.
Blindsided... damn, that was gut-wrenching!
Writing is smooth as silk
This is as good as X-Men can get. Nothing can top this.
That last line is the pinnacle of story writing.
This episodes gave me so many different emotions. What great story telling and actions sequences, absolutely amazing!
One of the best shows to date. This episode was EPIC!
fucking hell we have NEVER been more back. Peak tv from top to bottom. I laughed, I cried my soul was destroyed and we're only on episode 5.
Wow, what an episode! I'm speechless.
This show is so fucking good
jean grey actor really has that 'mature voice ' I feel like am listening to my mom lol such a unique voice but deep
It seems the descriptions of ep 5 and ep 6 are swapped? Besides that, this was hartbreaking to watch, it sure made an impact on me. Knowing Cable will be involved somehow makes it better
lol at all those people that said the animation was weak in the first episode. Where are they now? What an absolutely beautiful episode from start to finish. I need to watch it again.
Also that magneto comeback was so hard. “yet so many allow their leaders to be terrorists”
This episode should earn the show an Emmy nomination. Jean and Scott relationship. Magneto x Rouge x Gambit triangle. Magneto and Gambit ultimate sacrifices.
This has no right to be so good. Happy nation, huh... who would have thought.
I love how they are using dialogue is this revival. Every character is communicating in it's own specific way, solely from their perspective. It should have being obvious and default approach for any media, but it's so often neglected. I'm looking at you Invincible's writers.
I love they approach to Magneto costume aside one panel is all you need. Using train, speaking his native German. So simple, so effective.
Part of me really wants for disruption of status quo to stick with Gambit, Magneto, Storm etc. New reality the rest of the characters would have to live in. But with return of Cable it's probably gonna be reset.
p.s. Hearing Gambit and Rogue real speech is still pretty trippy, not gonna lie. That's why subs are superior they don't change big part of characters identity, culture for no good reason.
That was awesome, I didn't expect it.
I got a spoiler about who would die in this episode and still, wasn't prepared for it, simply amazing. I hope when the X-Men film come it has half as good writing as this.
I gave this a ten because this was truly an emotional episode with many sacrifices being made.
But, I wanted to rate it lower... Much lower in fact, because how can the mutants all be taken out so easily?
In a previous episode, Magneto lifted up a portion of the earth, including 3 people, into space, kept them alive, and had an enemy subdued with them all as well.
How did he get beaten so easily? With his full rage he should have destroyed that hydra sentinel like it was nothing.
Can someone explain to me why they all seemed underpowered?
Was it only because it was written that way so the episode could happen?
Wow!....just Wow. No other words for it. :weary::astonished:
just like old times watching the X-Men great
Marvel Animation, OMG just caught up with X-Men 97 & I've had all emotions rolled into one here, the death (sacrifices) of 2 Major characters, this is one thing the X-Men series I grew up with didn't have (emotion). By far this is the best show right now. Bring on Wednesday nights
Hopefully the story will get more interesting from here. I've been enjoying the show, but they've been focusing on the relationships a little too much in my opinion.
As a person part of the fandom the animation is impeccable You can tell this Disney X-Men has the budget to produce the colors are deep and flashy thhis is good budget.Storyeise? that's where there's friction can't judge it just yet maybe in the future but meanwhile just marvelling in how xmen has good money behind it..
Shout by Daniel LucasBlockedParentSpoilers2024-04-11T00:19:31Z
What an absolutely insane episode. This is such an incredible show. The cut to black and Rogue's final line absolutely broke me, and I've still got the new bad batch episode to watch. Wednesday night animation nights are turning out to be so much more traumatic than I expected.