It's nice to know our theorists are accurate.
HOLY FUCK ALSO THERE'S AN END CREDIT SCENE YOU MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT go back and watch it ;)
I don't know what to say other than: KATHRYN HAHN BEST GIRL :purple_heart:
[7.5/10] I continue to be in awe of the way WandaVision marries difficult emotional truths with the trappings of the televised form. This week, we’ve made it to the late 2000s/early 2010s mockumentary stage, with a style borrowed from shows like The Office and Modern Family. As always, the show does it well, with the talking head segments and characters looking at the camera (or “Jimming”, to borrow a term from Community) that capture the humor of that style of comedy.
The thing that grabbed me about this one, though, is that it uses that form to lean into Wanda’s depression, her sense of meaningless to life after witnessing and suffering so much trauma, her lurking fear that she’s endured so much pain because she deserves it. So often, the show has used its sitcom homages for subtle horror, when there’s something odd at the edge of the laugh track or TGIF rhythms that make us uneasy about what terrible thing might be lurking beyond the polished exterior.
But this week, the jarring part is that we’re still doing the cheery sitcom sheen but instead pairing it more directly with Wanda’s abject despondency. She has trouble getting out of bed. She’s incapable of doing anything. She can’t take care of her kids. Our title character (or one of them, at least), has basically given up.
That’s low-key dispiriting. There’s a realism to all of this. I’m sorry to say I know what it’s like to be with a caretaker who’s suffering from this kind of depression, and once again, WandaVision is unnervingly real in its depiction of it here. The fake ad this week (a pitch-perfect spoof of pill commercials) hints at what Wanda’s going through, weighed down not only by the losses she’s experienced so far, but by the sense that the perfect world she’s constructed is now crumbling too, especially with Vision seeming to have left her.
“Breaking the Fourth Wall” conveys that nicely (and in a visually sharp fashion) as objects within the Maximoff household start fritzing between different eras. It’s a nice way to communicate that Wanda is being overtaxed and overstretched, to where without the object of her affections and the person she ostensibly did all of this for, she can’t hold the focus or will to maintain it. She doesn’t know why, but she seems to ignore it in favor of her depressed stupor, hinting that it’s an emotional issue, rather than a magical one.
There’s other big plot happenings to be enjoyed though! For one, we pair up Vision and Darcy, the latter of whom has been officially sucked into the Hex. I honestly don’t love the pairing, as their comic energy isn’t brilliant. But I suppose it’s necessary, to bring this Vision up to speed on what’s happening both inside and outside this bubble. There’s some good comedy in the impediments that Wanda sets out for Vision to prevent him from making his way back home, and as much as they’re used for comedy, there’s something quietly heartbreaking about Vision’s confessionals, where he’s unusually emotionally raw about what he knows and what he suspects about the things his wife has done and his strange state of identity. Him getting fed up with the construct and just flying toward Wanda is a big move, both in terms of plot and his character.
Arguably just as big is Monica Rambeau not only making it inside the Hex, but maintaining her sense of self. It turns out that her aerospace engineering pal is just a friend of her mom’s who’s willing to deliver a favor, which is admittedly a bit of a letdown. But the purpose is to show the strength of the Hex and, by extension, the strength of Monica when she discovers her powers. The hardcore aerospace tech can’t penetrate the bubble (and even gets turned into a wood-paneled minivan in the process), but Monica wills her way through.
I’ll be honest. I had trouble hearing the echoing voices that presumably spoke important sentiments from Monica’s life as she burst through the barrier. Given her comments later, I took it to be a commentary on trauma, that Monica too has lost people and suffered, but chooses to keep going and finds strength in that, literally and figuratively. The strange body scans were a harbinger -- she’s got abilities of her own, and she wants to use them to help Wanda, to reason with her, as someone who’s experienced similar losses.
The confrontation goes about as well as you’d think, with Wanda trying to blast her away again, but Monica being tough but firm with her target. She’s running out of time though, as Director Hayward not only wanted to use Vision as a weapon, but is planning some sort of tactical strike. I gotta say, that’s my least favorite part of this one. We’ve done the “Government agency guy has a villainous, weapons-focused motivation” time and time again in the MCU. Unless there’s some unseen wrinkle here, it’s just not an interesting twist anymore.
What is, on the other hand, is the reveal that Agnes is behind it all! That may not be a shocking revelation, but it’s still a cool one. I’ll admit, I both thought Agnes was the likely culprit going back several episodes, but also bought into last week’s headfake where she pretended to be under Wanda’s influence. WandaVision unveiling her as Agatha Harkness, another “magical gal” in town, with ominous plans still totally work.
I have to say, I love the “Agatha All Along” montage and the fact that she gets her own theme here. Kathryn Hahn is a total pro, and the way she channels the cheesily cackling and winking baddie vibe on the one hand, while conveying some actual menace on the other, is really impressive. The little outro is very funny at the same time it fills in tons of gaps, and the villainous laughter coda that she killed their little dog too is the icing on the cake.
Beneath that heightened, audience-nudging reveal is some real terror though. The prospect of what happened to Billy and Tommy concerns me, especially when Wanda finds an expansive, gothic basement containing a box like the one that she and Pietro were kept in back in the day. One of the twins, the one seemingly with psychic powers, likes her because she’s quiet inside, something far scarier than it should be. She clearly has plans for them, and children’s lives in danger chills the blood of any adult.
As it reaches its closing stretch, WandaVision puts its cards on the table, telling us who the villains on the inside and outside are, reaching the present (more or less) with its homages, and giving us four superpowered beings within the Hex prepared to do battle to save/protect/convince Wanda of what has to happen left. It’s a hell of a setup, emotionally and story-wise, and I’m excited to see how the show finishes it.
Not only Wanda is rewriting reality to stop Vision, she's actually rewriting reality to give a chance to Vision to explain things to ourselves!
In one reality, gimmicks are getting tiresome. And in the other, characters are just not accomplishing anything. They are just pretty much given information and we are getting that as exposition. The story is really advancing in a unsuccesful way. This is pretty much a game for us, where we are given clues (but never succesful plot points the script), and we are developing our own theories to create buzz for the series. In its intent to not reveal anything, and be completely unpredictable, no resolution will give WandaVision a sense of accomplishment. It will be just another event in the Marvel's calendar.
The show can be entertaining, but you can't say it isn't stupid.
Ok so apparently Marvel comics’ fans were very excited about this episode as it revealed many characters which are known to them leading them to more theories.
In my case, I have no clue who Agatha Harkness is, or which superhero Monica will be, or what that fly represents BUT I am intrigued to know so hopefully this will be explained in the next episode. And what happened to the kids??
Already love Hahn as a performer, and getting to see her go ham with her own theme song was a treat.
WandaVision's sitcom premises and tones have been tied to the emotions and mental state of Wanda since the beginning, so it makes sense that her at the lowest point yet things would start to become fractured and all over the place. And, as it turns out, the mockumentary style comedy of Modern Family and The Office turn out to be a great mix with these characters - the humor is far more subdued then before as well and much drier, fitting of this kind of show. The constant changing of the things around Wanda, her depressive mood - it's played very realistically, much more so then I expected, and the emotional beats hit hard.
But honestly what really sold this episode was everything around that - Elizabeth Olsen probably gives her best performance to date on the show here, and Paul Bettany's chemistry with Kat Dennings is surprisingly really great. Monica nearly steals the show here with a show stopping scene involving her gaining her powers, even if they haven't been shown yet, but Kathryn Hahn man. Her performance here is simply divine, and while I'm curious to see how this changes the show going forward (some explaining has to be done), if Hahn is having THIS much fun here I can't see why we can't.
Agnes's song is fantastic.
We are getting to some reveals but there's still a lot to uncover.
Love this episode and people guessing right that Agnes is Agatha Harkness does not make the reveal less awesome.
I fucking love Kathryn Hahn
Despite seeing it coming, my mind is still blown.
Wow, that was the best cliffhanger I've ever witnessed, ever. Holy heck.
Glad to see my theory was right but also here for Monica getting her own show mmkay.
Possibly a contrarian opinion, but I'm starting to get a little worn down by a show that so heavily panders to the super fans in hopes their gushing will trickle down to the masses. You're supposed to be telling me the story, not showing glimpses of things and then hoping I'll read wiki pages and fandom entries just to know what the hell is going on.
Case in point, we've seen Monica as an operative for SWORD, but she walks through the Hex and now has glowing eyes and can stand toe to toe with Wanda. So now you expect me to read wiki entries on whoever the fuck "Spectrum" is just to understand what the hell just happened? Or are we all supposed to have a resident Marvel super fan who can just rattle off who these people are you're introducing at the speed of light?
Agatha is also another prime example. After this weeks episode, it feels like the intended reaction from the audience is "OMG THEY ARE DOING AGATHA HARKNESS?! OMG OMG OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY'RE DOING AGATHA!!". I simply do not know who Agatha is or what her connection is, but all the comments online would have you believe this is the second coming of Christ.
A fly on the wall in one scene is apparantly a confirmation of either Mephisto or Nightmare. Who? What? Oh right, more wikis and fandom pages.
Now we know who but there still is the why. Never heard of Agatha Harkness before. I wonder what her motives are and if she works alone.
8/10
Great
"AND I KILLED SPARKY
TOO"
haha I laughed so hard,
why not save the best
reveal till last.
Awesome episode and
Elizabeth Olsen is an
Absolutely Outstanding
Actress honestly her
range is off the charts,
she's amazing, definitely one
of my top
favourites Actresses.
and now we have photon
up and running ready
for November 10th
2023 The Marvels
(Captain Marvel 2).
Why do they continue
to fcuk with Wanda,
she's the strongest and
most powerful of them
all, Avengers including,
She's a frickin
"NEXUS" Being
she ain't getting out
powered by no one,
Period.
Tonight’s episode: modern family.
And then, plot twist!
This show keeps throwing curve balls and twists but that was unexpected. Always thought Agnes was special, just not this kind.
1st play (14 March): English
2nd play (31 March): French Dub
3rd play (16 June): Portuguese Dub
Interesting this episode is lower rated than any since things started moving, as for me it was my favorite probably largely because of the 2010s sitcom thing which I think worked really well, and it was fun to see Elizabeth Olsen do that style of acting (Kat Dennings being able to do it is no surprise, since she started in two Broke Girls, but it was fun to see her as well).
"agatha all along" is THE BEST moment of this show. hands down.
not much to say except stan kathryn hahn :3
They are trying something new with this show and I love it
Yay, we've finally reached the 16:9 aspect ratio :D
It feels like this show is mostly about comedy and won't make much sense, even at the end - but who knows, maybe they can bring some sense into this during the last two episodes (even though this feels pretty much impossible at this point). I didn't expect that twist (Agatha) but tbh I'm not that into this story so I didn't really care (it's a fun show and I'll definitely finish watching it but the story doesn't seem meaningful and I wonder if this'll even impact the MCU).
Anyway, pretty nice that they've added a mid(/post) end credits scene/teaser (I'm always watching the whole end credits to think about the movie/episode and/or write a trakt.tv shout :D).
Edit: After reading some other comments it seems like this might affect the MCU after all by introducing new characters. Anyway, it looks like one must've at least read the comics to properly understand this (and I'm only into the live action movies and TV shows but at least I've watched almost (WIP) all of them).
Obviously great! But I actually didn’t love their execution of the 2010s sitcom (Modern Family) it was good but there was a lot going on, like the circus part, maybe she should’ve turned it into like a farmer’s market??? If everything turns into the corresponding era, why would the sword base turn into a circus when those are not that common right now? The wanda scenes were great, she totally embodied Claire Dunphy, and I even got Gloria vibes from Agatha but the circus/vision scenes weren’t a great match to the sitcom/era.
Weirder and weirder — love it
Kinda amazing to see Agatha Harkness as the top read on Wikipedia
No idea about the plot points and references, but this continues to be a lot of fun.
Also, my mind is blown that Malcolm in the Middle wasn't a 90s sitcom. So WandaVision didn't do a 90s episode, and instead went from the 80s straight to the early 2000s and then on to the late 2000s/2010s. Was there no decade-defining family sitcom in the USA in the 1990s? I'm not in the USA but the two obvious examples were The Simpsons (would've been fascinating!) and The Fresh Prince (too weird, right?)
Any other examples?
Turns out Wandavision was a magical girl shoujo all along
YES YES YES YES YES, WE EXCITED.
I'm ready to see Monica and "Pietro" fighting, but not ready to Wanda under Agatha's control. I hope she revenges Sparky! And I really want Wanda and Vision to be together in the end. Sadly won't happen.
See this is exactly what I was talking about: by focusing more strongly on making things happen within the sitcom, your show becomes significantly more interesting. Your sitcom portions feel less like hostage tapes and more like stylistic implementations and it gives an MO to your narrative. It generally makes for an interesting push and pull between reality and sitcom, but now we're up against a wall--we're out of sitcom decades. What happens now? The 4th wall, Modern Family influence was particularly well chosen considering the awareness of the characters, but it makes me wonder if we're about to drop the sitcom schtick more thoroughly. Even the basement sequence was in the reality aspect ratio, so it can permeate into Westview. I wonder if they'll jump genres and start pulling from other types of shows, not just sitcoms.
But even for how much better this episode worked for me than the previous one, there are a few issues I think we have here. The MCU has often dealt with some over-explaining issues, but in a show dedicated to weird-fiction, explaining things at all becomes something of a taboo. There is also something weird with how Darcy functions in this episode. The schtick with the crossroads felt like she was stuck somewhere in between aware and unaware because of how we are meant to believe that if you are aware in the Hex you're not going to succumb to its sitcom antics. Why could she not just drive around the construction crew? Why would you not just blow through stop lights? I know Vision had a realization about this of his own, so it just feels kind of awkward he wouldn't bring her with him.
Overall, significantly better episode. Feels like the steam is moving finally and it's being done with an eye towards the surreal, which I appreciate. It's a shame it took us until episode seven to get there, though. Considering The Mandalorian had a similar problem, I really hope this isn't a Disney+ signature: weaker opening episodes that lead to stronger conclusions.
Shout by SilrogVIP 4BlockedParentSpoilers2021-02-20T23:31:10Z
With this episode Wandavision finally has the same issue as the Mandalorian.
The exciting element isn't a developing plot, it's about (well known) characters making their appearance.
The main difference is that Wandavision required almost a full season for the introduction of two new characters with super powers. Besides this, not too much really happened since episode 1.