How can something with this much budget and such talented people working on it feel so cheap ? The CGI looks like Ghostbusters from the 80's, everything in the dark so you are trying to make sense of the shadows. I'm really trying to like it but this keeps feeling more like an episode of Xena or Hercules than a show like GOT or LOTR. The source material deserves better.
I don't even think disappointing begin to describe how I feel about how stupid this episode is.
The ending as anticlimactic as the book
Lol what a joke of a season. All that build up for that? No epic battle or nothing just a poof and the dark one is gone, okay. All five of these characters are so important yet they never really do anything at all. I mean rand never got into a fight, shot his bow, swung his sword or anything.
why didn’t they do that channeling thing at the wall before anybody was sent out. The brother and all those troops would have never died. So dumb. Also to have nynaeve die and come back so quickly really took the oomph out of her so called death.
Absolutely awful. No one will care about this show once lord of the rings drops later this year.
Overall, not a bad ending. Though, I have to admit, I was happy Nynaeve died, but not that she was resurrected. Hopefully they do more with her character. As she stands, she's more annoying than useful. But that's also something lacking within the entire series...making three dimensional characters. They are all a bit flat. Hoping that changes next season.
After the last 2 episodes, this season finale fell SO flat, it flopped. :(
OMG. I've seen books changed for movie/series adaptation like Harry Potter and Game of Thrones, but this...
They seem to want to purposely change every single moment. If only it were for the better...
Is the Dark One an opera singer?
Very underwhelming episode, even by the standards of this underwhelming series.
I have read the first book in the series, "The Eye of the World", and I can see there are significant changes from the source material but somehow it isn't a problem for me like it was in the case of "The Witcher", maybe because I am not a great fan of the books so I don't mind the changes. It is a bit disappointing that they do not show the Green Man who helps them with fighting the servants of the dark one, he was a bit similar to Tolkien's Ents so I would like to see that. From what I recall from the book, the eponymous Eye was a pool full of pure saidin which has not been touched by the dark one and Rand uses it to defeat the baddie, I'm not sure if it is Ishamael or some of his servants, the duel between them is also much longer, with both of them creating long weaves of the power. I really hated the dark demonic vision of Ishamael which Rand has in the novels, so I rather liked the idyllic family scene he presented to Rand in the show, of his dream life with Egwene and their baby which Rand can make true if he follows Ishamael's teachings of the black magic and embraces his power, for a time it seems that Rand's going to succumb, but he manages to overcome the temptation and in this way defeat the main baddie. He then leaves - I think in the direction of Dragonmount - and tells Moiraine to lie to others that he had died.
The first scene with the flashback to Lews Therin, the original Dragon, seems interesting as it looks like the showrunners invented a new language for it (since from what I remember the language Jordan uses in his novels is not really complete and there are only phrases strewn here and there), though it seems to me that the conversation lacks some emotion, it feels dry and formal while the fate of the world is at stake. The steampunk-life world outside Lews Therin's window gives us a glimpse of the technology which was lost due to the breaking of the world which he caused.
There are many emotional scenes in the episode, but I liked the conversation between Lan and Nynaeve the best, it feels quite intimate and heart-felt, Lan confesses his love for her but they have to part as he intends to track Moiraine using the hints Nynaeve gave him, and they believe they would never see each other again (in the novels they are supposed to get married as I know from spoilers so I wonder whether it would be changed in the show since they've already changed a lot).
The battle is impressive, with some call-backs to "The Lord of the Rings" as the trollocs attacking the wall of Tarwin’s Gap bring to mind the orcs climbing on the walls of Helm's Deep in "The Two Towers." The defenders have some advantage as they can attack the enemy from overhead but they are quickly outnumbered. The ruling family of Fal Dara dies, both the brother and the sister, he is killed by the trolloc and she channels linked to other women (including Egewene and Nynaeve) and is overwhelmed by too much power, two other women are also burned to their deaths with the power, only the Two Rivers women remain. It is unclear whether Nynaeve is also killed and Egwene resurrects her with her channelling or whether she was only severely wounded but not actually dead. From Nynaeve's channelling in the episode when she saves Lan and others from the false Dragon it seems that in the show you can resurrect a person who hasn't been dead for very long yet, and it is not clear how long Nynaeve was dead as there is a cut to other scene. It is nice she's back since I liked her character in the show but the fact she's alive seems a bit too plot-armoury to me.
Perrin sees as some men from Fal Dara dig out the Horn of Valere which was hidden under the throne (this is the subject of the second volume so I have no idea what has been changed here), however, Padan Fain comes with some fades and slays the women guarding the passage, the men and even Loial, then he talks to Perrin and names all five Two River folks ta’veren, which is a significant difference from the novel as there only Rand, Perrin and Mat are ta’veren, here Egwene and Nynaeve are also included. Fain suggests that some of the ta’veren would turn to the darkness and there is a cut to Mat going back to Shadar Logoth, suggesting it would be him, though I think in the books none of the ta’veren does turn to evil (at least in "The Eye of the World"), so it is another serious divergence from the source material. I was not a big fan of Mat but it is sad they seem to change him into a negative character?
The episode ends badly for Moiraine as she loses all her power in the confrontation with Ishamael and she cannot channel anymore or feel the one power. Lan find her sitting on the site of the Eye of the World and she confides in him that she cannot re-establish their bond since she cannot channel anymore; however, it is clear that they still have a strong emotional bond as Lan consoles and supports her. I guess this was not the case in the novels either, and it seems like a worrying trend of showrunners depriving enchantresses of their magic, as the same thing happened to Yennefer in "The Witcher", with disastrous results concerning her character arc.
The end of the episode shows a girl playing on the beach who sees upcoming ships, containing what must be the enslaved channellers called damane (I've read that in book spoilers too), which suggests Seanchan will be shown next season.
This episode is just a joke. I can understand why there are differences to the books, but most of the made changes made things more complicated or just didn't made sense!
As a fan of the books I already had my issues with the whole adaption and the first episodes. But I got satisfied withe the last episode, where finally Rand was shown as the reborn dragon. And now this!
This feels so poor, stupid!
The battle on the pass for example: The army is starting on horses. Everybody who already looked forward to see an epic battle, because the start is very promising, will be disappointed because.... they don't use the horses. The men of the army will fight in the barrier and will all die very fast against the trolloc army.
And then: The 5 women, who barely can use the force are blowing the whole trolloc army away - just like this!
Thousands of men were very wasted before. Why they didn't send just these 5 women for the fight?
In the meantime the fight between Rand and the dark one is so underwhelming. You cannot see that Rand (the reborn dragon) is the most powerful Aes Sedai in the world.
The scene where Egwene needs to heal Nynaeve from death (the whole scene is so unnecessary) is one more detail, why this show is so poorly written. Oh - Loial also died in this episode! But don't be sad - he will also come back as if by magic for sure!
Nynaeve and Egwene are the true love story.
Okay I gotta admit this show pretty much won me over. The things I like about it are probably the things hard-core Randtards hated, but such is like. Padan Fain, true player for real.
After this episode I don’t think I am ever going to watch season two.
What the fuck was that.
I am trying to like this show but it’s just so rushed and the themes are all over the place. I just don’t know what’s going on most of the time. Ugh I feel like I’ve wasted hours of my life on this show. I should have waited for the series to finish and binged them then because this was whack af.
As happens with all screen adaptations of cult classic fantasy, the faithful come out to complain loudly about any creative license taken for the screen version. I get it, I do, but rather than get in my feelings about it, I approach it with curiosity about how the story will resolve itself with the changes. If you take this episode, and the entire first season, for that matter, and separate it from what you know from the books, it’s not as horrible as many of the comments make it sound. It’s a solid fantasy screenplay with good actors and special effects on par with today’s technology. My advice is to enjoy the work for what it is and not let every diversion from the original books spoil the fun for you.
An epic sus of a screen adaptation!
As a book reader, this finale left me both impressed and confused. I appreciate the decision to split the ending of Eye of the World with the start of The Great Hunt because they do need to save time and most of the stuff that happens at the end of the first book doesn't really matter in the long run, so just sending Rand and Moiraine there was fine. Do not understand Moiraine's outcome there, though. Can only presume that'll expedite one of Nynaeve's discoveries. (I wonder if Siuan/Leane will have the same fate when that happens down the line? I wonder if this is a way to bring that discovery out earlier without doing that and then Logain follows later, somehow). I didn't think they were bothering with Falme (I could see from a TV standpoint how they could skip it), have the hunt lead to Tear instead, but with that ending, it seems they are. Suspect we may get books 2+3 done in the next season, though.
[requoting my reply to another comment] I'm enjoying some of the more interesting diversions from what I remember from the novel(s) but sometimes the sheer hokeyness is amusing enough to distract.
They're clearly going to go their own way with the story from this point onward, but the intro of the Seanchan just seemed over the top silly.
ishamael's vision for rand: ah, i see you have chosen Bebé
One of the worst ways of just skipping the entire ending of the book and trying to make your own story. Flat out failed. Horrible.
Not so sure, what to think about this episode.
After the last episode I was again satisfied that everything is slowly coming together, even though there were so many deviations from the books.
Everything feels so rushed without giving time to develop and understand. I am happy that I have read the books, so I understand the connections. Do others do?
Deviate from the original story there are always scenes, which make no sence:
Nynaeve was already dead and Egwene brought here back to life? That was so unnecessary!
Why is Mat again in Shadar Logoth?
The fight Rand against the dark Lord was super unspectacular! Just on Flash of light and that's it? Where is the dragon flag?
The outlook with the Seanchan give cause to fear the worst for the further development of the story.
The worst episode so far ...
I'm not sure what's the worst part of this episode... The weird and unnecessary story alterations (such as the Aes Sedai saving Tarwin's Gap, or the fact that there was no "Eye" of the World, no pool of purified Saidin), or the garbage VFX in the titular battle.
Here's to hoping they fired their whole staff before starting work on Season 2.
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The episode just felt stupid. All the hype built around facing the Dark One was for nothing. Greatly disappointed.