Not going to lie, I kind of set my expectations for this mid-season finale very high. With most things in life, that is the WORST thing you can do. I've read all 193 issues of "The Walking Dead", and sort of have a feel for where the show is heading in comparison to the books. I expected some pretty over-the-top events to occur with this episode, but it fell short of my expectations (once again, my fault for setting those expectations).
Episode 8 of season 10 clocks in at 54 minutes, and it's really just a setup for the remainder of season 10. I just watched the episode last night, and can barely remember most of the events that unfolded. The "gang" falling into a cave trap set by Alpha doesn't really have me on the edge of my seat, honestly. I'll obviously be tuning in when the show returns from it's mid-season break, and I'm happy with the way that this show is going - but I just expected the mid-season to go out with a bang.
The most obvious bait in the history of obvious baits... ♂
luke’s bit in the library was really wholesome. the interaction with your man on the naval islands turned out well. otherwise nothing much happened.
Fucking Carol and her death wish.
PTSD... flashbacks...shaky camera...20min of filler stuff... this was the mid season finale?
[5.6/10] What a pile of mush. These overlong premieres and finales are so often a chore. The Walking Dead regularly struggles with pacing and structure, so giving it extra real estate may make sense for selling time to advertisers, but does not work from a creative standpoint.
So let’s talk about the themes, heavy-handed though they may be, since they’re one of the few quasi-positives in this one. I like the idea of folks like Aaron wondering whether they are building something that lasts, or something that will be washed away by the sands of time. You get that idea in Aaron talking to his daughter, in Judith writing down the events of the community, and even in our heroes visiting the library and seeing the stores of human knowledge.
That’s the broader philosophical conflict between our heroes and The Whisperers. The Whisperers think that nature is retaking civilization, and that giving into the dead is the only way to survive and persist in the new order. Erase your identity. Embrace nothingness. That’s the Whisperer way. But our heroes are aiming for the exact opposite, to build something that can last, to hold onto the scraps of civilization leftover and create a society and a people that will be the first chapter of a much larger story.
Sure, this is The Walking Dead so that’s dramatized with hamfisted monoglues, but still! It’s an interesting idea and one the show hasn’t really explored yet.
The same can’t be said for the “should we trust outsiders or treat them with suspicion?” routine. Dante’s betrayal understandably leaves people out of sorts, wondering how someone who’s been working against them could have lived among them and befriended them and become a part of their community for months and months. The montage at the beginning of the episode does a nice job at explaining the how, but the characters still have to grapple with the why and what it means.
Unfortunately, it leads to the same old “do we close ranks and protect our own, or do we live up to our principles?” debate that the show has been having since, well, at least The Governor arc back in season 3, and arguably from the very beginning. We definitely did it with The Saviors, and I gotta say that I’m just sick of it. You can only peel that apple so many ways, and we’re hitting seeds and core at this point.
We get it. The state of nature means it’s hard to trust people, especially when resources are scarce and there’s conflict. But good lord, we’ve just done this so many times, in so many ways, that the show doesn't really have any new take on it.
What follows makes very little sense. The Dante reveal is an interesting twist less because of the shocking “he was a bad guy the whole time!” pulling of the rug out from under the audience, but more because having a prisoner who betrayed you but could also be useful and maybe even have stockholm syndrome is an interesting place to take the narrative. Of course, TWD squelches that immediately by having Gabriel kill him in a heretofore unseen rage, one that is, I guess, supposed to be motivated by his own sense of being overwhelmed and guilt at being a bad judge of character.
Mind you, that’s preceded by the weirdest, most tin-eared couples argument the show’s had in a while, which is saying something. Rosita and Gabriel don’t feel like a real couple. They don’t feel like real people. They just feel like thin cardboard stand-ins for vague, unformed ideas. Rosita is worried about the safety of herself, for her daughter’s sake, which is something. But the dialogue is so rough that it comes out jumbled and frankly, bizarre. And we’re back on the Eugene love triangle thing, which, good lord, was always kind of a misstep and feels even hinkier now.
Oh yeah, and Siddiq’s dead, which surprised me a little. I figured that Dante had a legitimate attachment to Siddiq (which the show seems to confirm), and so he would only sleeper hold him rather than suffocate him. But there goes another character who had a little extra spark to him. We have a funeral and mournful words, but it ultimately left me cold, with how much other nonsense was packed into this one.
Speaking of which, we have Aaron getting info on where the horde is from Gamma, only to lead a coalition of the willing into one of Alpha’s traps. The scene between Daryl and Carol is heartfelt and good (as most are between those two) and the visual of them surrounded by Walker hands is a cool one. But man, they all seem like idiots for falling for the trap, and the whole thing comes off as contrived.
Last but not least, we see Michonne interrogating a man named Virgil who saved Luke and got caught poking around the Oceanside camp. Danai Gurira continues to make heartbreaking monologues out of poorly written lines, but this is the storyline that succumbs the most to the show’s endless retreads of “security vs. mercy” moral debates. The arrival of someone who might be able to give them a bomb sufficient to destroy Alpha’s horde is super convenient, but at least it leads to a few good scenes with her and Virgil. (And there’s some particularly adorable scenes with Luke and Judith before the shit hits the fan as well.)
But on the whole, this is one that spends a lot of runtime to have the same sort of overextended conversations the show has during regular episodes, and with less focus and coherence. The least TWD could do if it’s not going to be good is not overstay its welcome. Trying to pack so much in like this adds more pacing problems, and despite the odd cliffhangers we get here, does little too excite me about whatever’s in store for the back half of the season.
More stupidity from The Walking Braindead. Everything surrounding the Dante plot is absolutely stupid. The trip to the library was meaningless and stupid, it looks like all it was supposed to do was momentarily introduce a character who would show up again 5 minutes later, without there being any need for his initial appearance. However, that plot does look like it might go somewhere. The Gabriel plot is incredibly stupid. This is the man who never ever wanted to kill, and even when he did it was only out of absolute necessity. Now I don’t know if it’s because I’ve taken large breaks from this show and have forgotten or it’s because I just don’t care anymore, but I am 99% sure that outburst was like the polar opposite of what his character is supposed to be and I’m not buying it for a second.
Finally, the venture into whisperer territory was just unknowingly stupid, of course Carol goes chasing her and they all fall straight into the most textbook trap there is; don’t chase someone in their own territory ffs, especially when it’s as vast and unknowing as the woodlands. Stupid, stupid show, two episodes in a row without Negan and, not coincidentally, two episodes in a row with practically no redeeming qualities. I remember seasons 5 and 6 when I used to be so excited for the show, and couldn’t bear the week long waits between episodes. Now, I absolutely couldn’t care less, this show has completely fallen off my rankings and there are so many other shows I’d rather watch. I am only here because I am so far into this show that I may as well continue to the end, along with the 0.000001% chance that maybe, just maybe, the show might come close to the standards it set during seasons 4-6 again. 6/10
Nope! Two „old ladies“ sprinting faster then all the others? Carol getting more stupid by the minute? I don’t care about her rage, it’s still silly! Daryl being equally stupid running after her without taking precautions? phew... this mid-season finale was one of the worst ever! What was all that crap about being a whisperer in hiding to be caught right after the killing to then tell the whole damn story and being killed himself? That story ark could have been so much more interesting and mysterious...
After the first few episodes I thought this could become one of the more interesting seasons in years... well, they killed those thoughts.
CAN'T SEE SHIT! FUCK THESE DARK HDR BULLSHIT SHOWS!! They just wanna sell new TVs.
While this season hasn't been as bad as some people think, this was a very weak midseason finale. They try to go for more character development, but it all felt rather shallow...
i don't know.. I still watch the show but man.. I really don't know..
I rated this episode harshly mainly due to the standard I expect of a finale, or even a mid-season finale. I always feel cliffhangers are not needed if you progress the story and keep the pace from the get-go. I think I feel the same way I did when I knew Rick was leaving, every episode had this annoying tension built into it. I didn't want to "miss it" or something - lol! As if! Now, it's with Michonne, like is this boat trip going to be her ending (surely not!) but I still fuss!!
Yeah! Let's run one after another into the dark cave where the enemy led us. What could possibly go wrong?
bleh, quite loose at the end of half season not? that is to be a normal chapter very cool but to be an end because that loose
I expected more from a mid-season finale, but I guess they saved that up for the mid-season premiere episode when they return.
I'm glad they didn't drag Dante out too long. They could have had him get rid of Siddiq and blend back in with the rest longer, so glad they went for a quick reveal. I was a little surprised that they killed him off that quickly as well but that played out nicely too. Gabriel was a good choice there.
I think the end scene lacked tension because for one, I watched this episode mid-day and could barely see a thing, even with the curtains closed. The gnarling of walkers was practically all I got out of that scene. I kind of filled in the blanks myself. When Carol ran after Alpha my first thought was 'Dammit, Carol! You're going to get someone killed!' but then again, it's Carol and I'll root for her either way, she can do whatever the hell she wants.
I'm beginning to really love Aaron. It's clear that they are making him the Rick of the group. It's the way his character is developing. He went from an all around good guy to a brooding man, wondering about what they will become. I like it. It fits him and also, the beard is making him look badass as f***.
So this was an okay episode. I missed Negan. I missed Beta. I missed that shocking twist, but I still have high hopes for the second part of the season because the build up is very good. I like the direction they took, focusing on the trauma's more and lighting the mood here and there with some nice dialogue (example: the best friend scene of Carol and Daryl at the start of the season and also almost every scene with Negan).
Wow this episode really sucked... The writing is soooo bad.
Probably one of the worst mid-season fanales for the walking dead, but still, show is heading in the right direction.
Overall a pretty solid episode but the ending was a bit dumb. Carol acting so stupid was poor writing and was compounded by the 5 or 6 people who followed into the cave and ALSO fell down the pit. You could understand maybe Carol and the first one or two people following her down but for EVERYONE to blindly just fall down as well was contrived beyond belief. Still, I suppose it gave us a nice mid-season finale image to close out on.
They've pretty much explained all my suspicions from last week. Nice of them.
• No JDM, that's some serious bummer.
• No Dog. Another bummer.
• Not a lot of cold calculated mind from Carol.
• Sneaking walkers. I mean, MatPat gave a theory for it on The Film Theory, but in a library. Those rotting guys supposed to be making their voices all the time. Wait a sec, I got it. It's because they were in a Library. You have to keep quiet.
• I like Dan Fogler's character.
• Michonne needs Guns. A lot of guns.
• Best place to live through the zombie apocalypse is an island like Hawaii, the Maldives, New Zealand... or a fortified naval Base isle.
On a serious note:
People like Alpha are the kind of wannabe gangsta who are only feel safe doing their f#cked up sh¡t hiding behind their large numbers. I ain't saying she isn't playing smart, but 1on1 or even 20on20 she knows she ain't much. Calling Daryl and folks weak or scared is easy when you're hiding behind a herd. Again, it's smart but when you're using it for bad things and taunting your opponents you become a bitch.
I think I've managed to get a full closure of a finale to the above paragraph at least as entertaining, multi-subject, confusing and hanging as this mid-season finalé was, no?!
P.S: I've recently watched SW: episode 8 - The Last Jedi. People here talking about filler episodes should go watch it and let me know. If those 2+ hours weren't a filler that add nothing to the story and TWD episodes are. Well, than we have a really different way of reviewing story telling.
Pretty good episode, Carol is infuriating to watch however, I get she's meant to be blinded by her revenge or whatever but they've actually made her so stupid! Also Sadiq's death feels ultimately pointless as predicated, they built on his character, killed him off and then the whisperer was discovered instantly anyway...okay. Michonne was just a huge set up for the second half of the season. Rosita, Gabe and Daryl carried
The walking dead is alive again! Great first half of the season!! For me it still feels a bit empty without Rick, where is rick? When are these bloody films starting? Also how the hell can you have a midseason finale without Negan? Wheres Negan? That's all I've got to complain about. Keep it up TWD team.
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Hey, guys, remember the time Daryl used to be smart?