Sadly, so far the story is mid. I just hope that they can pick up the pace.
I like the whole vibe to the story so far and the direction they could take it. I like how anyone can possibly be a skrull but honestly they could have did more leading up to this in the past movies. Kind of how Peter Parker said he was with Nick fury during no way home but it wasn’t really him. They could have did more with making Nick fury coming back to earth a big deal too.
I like the way this is going. G’iah’s character is so conflicted so this is going to make for a good story line. Do not like seeing them kill off a main character in the first episode though.
The show gave me Alien Nation and V vibes. Sadly the killed of one character. That was not expected.
Very interesting start for Secret Invasion. Definitely the best Marvel show in a long time. But I can‘t quite believe that they killed off Maria Hill in the first episode. I always loved the character and she was criminally under used in the MCU.
[7.5/10] I like what Secret Invasion is going for here. Trying to do Homeland by way of the MCU is an interesting approach, and the sci-fi twist of shape-shifting aliens only adds to the paranoid thriller aspects of the project.
I appreciate how the episode establishes three centers of interest/power. Naturally, you have Nick Fury’s contingent, representing the good guys from The Avengers and Captain Marvel as we know them, more or less. You have the ostensible bad guys, a group of Skrull rebels lead by Gravik who wants to set off global conflict and possible annihilation to be able to inherit the Earth. And you have Sonya and MI:6 as an alternate intelligence agency pursuing the same case as Fury, but unwilling to collaborate.
The pieces on the board are strong, as Nick Fury and Maria Hill’s chess game portends. I also appreciate the fundamentals of the setup. A Skrull invasion where anyone could be an alien working against you adds a particular kind of menace and terror. (Hello fellow Deep Space NIne fans!) And it’s a particularly good fit for a spy show.
I also like the philosophical element of it. Despite the fact that the Skrull rebels are doing some objectively bad stuff, there’s not mustache-twirling baddies who simply love evil. They are dissidents who feel betrayed by the fact that it’s been decades and they still don’t have a home despite some big promises. I’m sure there’s some recency bias from my recently having watch the 1990s X-Men series, but it’s not hard to read Talos as Professor X, wanting to take a gentler approach to the issue, and Gravik as Magneto, thinking the time for patience is over and the time for action is now. We only get hints so far, but the ideological side of this one is strong.
I also appreciate the character explorations. It’s basic, but I appreciate the idea that Nick Fury was changed by the Blip and has been trying to figure out who he is since then. May of the best post-Endgame MCU stories have followed that same tack, functioning as post-scripts and examinations of what moving forward means in the wake of such cataclysmic events. While the whole “YOu’ve lost a step, Fury!” game is a little tired, the idea that he was affected by what happened and is still trying to recover from a long absence is a good note to play.
I like where they go with Talos as well. The idea that he is a friend and partner who wants to show mercy to other Skrulls is an interesting throughline for him. It earns him flak from both Fury and his daughter, out of a sense that he’s unwilling to be forceful enough to make a difference. The twist that his daughter is in fact, a member of the Skrull rebellion adds an interesting dimension to the proceedings, and roots the political in the personal, which is a good tack for any television show.
Along the way, there’s plenty of interesting ideas floating around. The shape-shifting conceit allows for cameos from the likes of Martin Freeman without having to disrupt the canon. Maria Hill’s death is a bit unceremonious for my tastes, but shows that there are stakes to this fight. ANd I especially like the idea of Skrulls having sanctuaries where they can reform their culture at the same time they’re staging their attacks, as it too adds character to the villains. And hey, Olivia Coleman is an absolute cheat code, so more of her please.
The presentation is a little generic, but you can see the show mirroring the aesthetic that spy projects as varied as The Bourne Identity and Homeland and The Americans have pulled off. There’s definitely a more grounded tenseness to the proceedings borne out by that, if you’ll pardon the expression.
Overall, this is a strong, if not overwhelming start for the series, which ably establishes the premise, sets up the conflict and themes, and reintroduces the characters to this new setting. I don’t know if Secret Invasion can hit the “prestige spy drama” target it appears to be aiming for, but I’m intrigued to see the creative team try.
A terrible start to a new series. After Hill said she wasn't sure Fury would be up for this, Hill, Fury (who apparently CAN'T shoot a bad guy 10 feet in front of him even though humanity is literally at stake), and Talos (who apparently doesn't want to really hurt anyone), decide to take on an unknown number of super strong and violent shape shifting aliens without contacting ANYONE else to help. I really hope this gets better....
If that's really it for Maria Hill then I think that's a damn shame. She's been around in this universe for over 10 years yet never got any character arc, background story nor any relationship to anyone other than Fury. I expected Secret Invasion to finally be the project to let her shine more, give her some much needed depth but I guess she was mostly there to up the stakes and add some shock value. Not a horrible decision per se but a disappointing one.
The rest of the episode was ...okay. I do love the cast. Ben Mendelsohn and Samuel L. Jackson are terrific actors and I enjoy the respective characters they play, as well as the dynamic between them a lot too! Great to also have Olivia Colman and Emilia Clarke in this.
But I hope the plot and execution get more interesting because I'm not yet invested.
Also the AI intro........embarassing.
I can't believe i was so excited to see Maria Hill again and they killed her off in the first episode. You can't do that to me.
a pretty decent start to this series.. i was mostly interested to see it for emilia and her character is so conflicted and i love her already! can't wait to watch the rest of the series!
Weak start and very uninteresting characters, especially the "bad guys" and I start to realize that Emilia Clarke is not a good actor. The plot is not that engaging either. The chocking end didn't really move me.
Started slow but got more interesting towards the end. But yeah killing off Maria Hill is unfortunate. Her character could have done so much more in the MCU. Perhaps it was Cobie's choice.
The MCU has reached the point where character deaths cause me to wonder if it's due to the story they wanted to tell, or due to the actor's contract expiring and them not wanting to renew.
I haven't really liked any of the recent MCU movies that I've seen, so I hope this is decent. Don't really have much of an opinion on it yet.
Big budget, big cast but hollow feeling. I’m hoping it does what Andor did for Star Wars but I’m only just holding on at this point
How I Met Your Skrull
I was looking forward to this show, but that was a rather disappointing pilot episode
The opening credits seem to be created by an AI. As well as the entire first episode though... meh. Let's see if the show improves.
Why is this show getting SO MUCH hate???? I am genuinely confused. This is really good so far.
Its serious, SLJ is a delight. Its exactly what I wanted so far. A Marvel thriller that is not goofy over the top super hero stuff 24/7.
Samuel L Jackson shooting people.
Everything is great so far. IDK if its getting review-bombed on other sites because its in Russia...? Its getting lower scores then she-hulk on some sites. I just don't get it. Or Marvel fans don't know what they want.
When I opened the first episode and saw the duration I thought "ugh, why is it that long..". That thought stayed until the end of the episode. :upside_down:
that is NOT how you end the first episode of a show focusing on sidelined beloved characters of the franchise :angry:
Is it just me or is it very obvious that Nick Fury is a Skrull... "The Fury I know wouldn't let two men jump him from behind", "The Fury I knew was always three steps ahead", "You've changed so much since the blip", "Fury is back on earth without telling us".
These could be red herrings but with the MCU's current form I doubt it
oh no, please tell me they didn't kill off Maria Hill. She's always been one of my faves.
It’s alright. The strength of Marvel is the variety of genres they can cover within the universe. This one is a detective-action style flick far removed from the superhero grandeur. Let’s see if they can save a sinking ship.
I wish I could care, I do. The idea of where this could go excited me, but I know the MCU is dead, they just haven't buried the body yet.
7/10
Good
Taken me a while
to finally get round to
this one as I'm way more
Superhero/Avengers
than secret
mission impossible
spy stuff.
I was worried this
wasn't going to hold
my attention and with
The A.I generated
Intro that I thought lasted
to long I didn't have high
hopes for the premiere
episode.
I was surprised it did
hold my attention and
found myself rather
enjoying all the
shape-shifting sneakiness.
I'm not fully invested
in all the terrorism
shenanigans but I'm
getting their.
If I can sit through
She-Hulk
I can get through this
(No problem).
Oh yeah
She deserved better
much much better,
WTAF.
I can't believe they killed Maria Hill! What a brave move. Not sure if it was a good move, but still. I'm feeling pretty sad that we just lost a character that's been here since the early days.
I don't understand. They were in the cab. They had privacy. They had disguise. Why park and get out to have that conversation? I don't understand. I. DO. NOT. UNDERSTAND.
I would also be pissed if it had taken someone over 30 years to help me with something!
But also this plot doesn’t make sense once you remember the Asgardians are living peacefully in Norway so… yes they look like humans so that makes it easier for them to coexist, but like just give the Skrulls an island and let them be.
And I’m so fcking pissed at what they did to Maria! She’s been in the mcu for 11 years (longer in the actual mcu I guess they are in the year 2025-27), she’s been so underused and at least she deserved a big screen death, not this. And also I feel like mcu needs the most connecting dots they can get so why get rid of someone like that when what it’s needed in this phase is familiarity. When Fury retires who’s gonna be in charge? Ross? He’s kinda lame.
Interesting beginning - but a bit confusing, to be honest. Not sure I care about any of these characters, to be honest. Hill's death didn't move me all that much. And Fury retired to some space station? Who built that thing? And how long ago was the blip (or rather the "unblip")? I need context!
I can't believe they did this... why does marvel hate my favorite female characters? :sob: It wasn't as awesome a first episode as I had hoped. maybe things will get better, we'll see.
boy fury sure it's geriatric in this role
Finally getting started on this, and oof was I unexpectedly underwhelmed. I loved the ads, promising a Nick Fury-centered slick and twisty conspiracy thriller, but while this debut episode definitely sets the stage for things, it's a far less interesting and captivating stage that I hoped it would be. I was wondering how they'd make the Skrulls the villains again after I so enjoyed their turn in Captain Marvel as both war refugees and heroes, and Carol Danvers failing to find a new planet for them to move to makes absolutely no sense given that the Guardians of the Galaxy could probably name a dozen off the top of their heads. Why not give them Thanos' retirement garden! Surely nobody else is using it at the moment. Instead, they're having an overwhelming fracturing of the Skrulls who decide to not only settle in on Earth, but take it over for themselves. Which I understand the rationale for, but the flaws of setting such an extreme goal are that their immunity to radiation means there's some big areas for this presently small population to flourish in isolation, or easy ways for them to integrate into the population, depending on what they chose. Because they're unknown outside clandestine circles, they're also not currently facing any mass amounts of bigotry or persecution to rebel again. There's more ways they could make this interesting, like them getting outed publicly and everything spiraling out of that, or have them be infiltrated by Dire Wraiths to add the interesting layer of shapeshifters infiltrated by shapeshifters. Instead, it just feels like a watered down and less motivated rehash of the Flag Smasher plot from Falcon & Winter Soldier. Even worse, it feels like it's delivering a very anti-refugee and immigrant message, which I sincerely doubt the creators intended for.
Other than a few nice trailer shots, the direction is also pretty bland and uninvolving. The writing is very clunky and obvious with no naturalism or nuance. Worst of all, the great Samuel L Jackson feels so phoned in. They're making quite a point about Fury being old and tired and at the end of his run, but beyond that, Jackson feels like he's struggling to get out lines, and just isn't bringing the same magnetism we're used to. Mendelson is also a bit all over the place in his role as Talos, though at least he has the most interesting character thread: discovering that his daughter (well played by Emilia Clarke) is working for the very same terrorist group who killed her mother, and he's trying to stop all this antagonism and find peace, even as he sees his own people getting gunned down by his ally, Fury. Smulders makes a striking return as Maria Hill, but I'm really deflated by the decision to kill her given how far too underutilized she's been in this franchise. It's not a dramatic or impactful death, it's just a cheap one, and fits with how obvious and bland most of the episode is.
Sorry. I remain a fan of the MCU and am still eager to see where this series goes, but this was not a good beginning for me.
Hopefully, Agent Hill can spend some time in "Tahiti."
great but you lose a star for killing off Hill. She's been here since the first Avengers movie and this is how you are gonna do her???
How sad that she died. :cry:
A little more dire than I expected, and I absolutely agree that the opening credits sequence is trash. Too much shakycam, as well. I hope things cheer up in future episodes. Or at least some more humour.
Really liked that we got right into is this episode as far as story, no time was wasted and this moved incredibly fast. It might feel a bit too fast, but if they're going to continue with the 6 episode format then this is the way to do it. Absolutely loved that this felt like the most grounded and serious MCU show yet, but still with little drops of humor mostly coming from Nick Fury which sometimes stood out as not that great but mostly felt appropriate. What I really loved was just how worn down and grizzled Fury looked. The MCU has lacked a focus on the long lasted effects of the blip in a serious manner, especially how traumatic it must have been for many people, and I love that they're finally using Fury as a way to get more into that. I also felt the paranoia settle in right from the beginning which is essential for this story and hope that this atmosphere is maintained throughout. Talos was another standpoint and I'm really liking how they're setting up his character with a lot of complexity, including his relationship with Fury. There were also some pretty great visual shots and the cinematography was quite tasteful. And of course, it ends with a huge and devastating shock that I didn't see coming. Some parts of that decision disappoint me, but it absolutely worked at establishing the tone of the series and as letting you know they're not messing around. Love that I can feel some actual stakes with one of these MCU shows, and I'm excited to keep watching.
Great start to the series! Not quite a perfect home run, but decently gripping and a fair attempt at meshing the Marvel universe with the stock genre of anti-terrorism thriller. Unlike Falcon & The Winter Soldier, we get no uneven story beats here, nor do we get any rushed plots, as one of the most pleasant surprises of this episode is that it runs for a healthy 55 minutes. The cinematography isn't anything new, but has some bright moments to be sure, pretty much mirroring the tone of the show in its darkness and gravity.
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