I just LOVE this movie. It has great humor, great action scenes and a powerful message: sometimes you have to give up your dreams to be the person everyone needs you to be.
Every time I watch it, I find myself rooting for this guy even though I already know everything that it's gonna happen.
Great super hero movie!
[9.1/10] If the first Spider-Man movie was about responsibility, the second is about sacrifice. In Peter Parker’s origin story, he is sloughing off the guilt of the time his willingness to look the other way cost him his uncle. Peter decides to be a hero to honor his fallen father figure, to live-up to the ideals he stood for, and make sure no one else has to suffer the same sort of loss.
In this coming-of-age follow-up, Peter suffers for that choice. There’s a sense in which he’s done his duty, made amends for his mistake, and deserves the right to live his own life again. He gives up being Spider-Man, and rather than chastising him for the choice, you sympathize with him. He is giving everything he can: to his job(s), to his studies, to his friends, to his heroics, and to the city, and seems to get only resentment and disappointment in return. He is stretched too thin, kept from too much of what’s good in this life, and it’s still not enough.
Peter is a twenty-year-old kid with the weight of the world on his shoulders, and we feel for him when his knees start to buckle.
And yet, he goes on. The choice Peter made to become Spider-Man in the first movie mattered because he paid a price for doing the right thing. The choice he makes to become the hero again in Spider-Man 2 matters because he pays a price again: giving up the thing he wants most in this world -- Mary Jane.
Look, the romance element of Spider-Man 2 isn’t much better than the one in the last movie. M.J. is still kind of terrible. She is in a serious relationship with, and eventually engaged to, another man, who is by all accounts decent and dependable for her. And yet from the moment she appears on-screen, she is practically inviting Peter to steal her away.
We’re supposed to excuse it because they’re the canonical One True Pairing, and it’s True Love, and all of that other cinematic lubricant that’s supposed to help you glide over the pain the main characters’ choices will inflict on the tertiary characters. But it’s another romance founded on M.J. being romantically involved with another man, de facto cheating on him with Peter, while the audience is supposed to cheer for them both.
Despite that, it’s the rare situation in which I’m willing to excuse it, not because the chemistry is so stellar or the romantic connection somehow justifies it, but because Mary Jane is more important for what she represents than what she does in this movie. She represents the romantic life and loving partnership Peter believes he can never have. And she also represents the people who care for Peter, but feel constantly let down by him, for reasons they can’t understand and which Peter can’t reveal.
Therein lies the tragedy in the first half of the film that makes you glad when Peter takes off the mask. Being Spider-Man is ruining his life. And director Sam Raimi and screenwriter Alvin Sargent find clear, clever, sometimes heartbreaking ways to dramatize that.
Peter loses his job as a pizza deliveryman after failing in his last chance delivery, despite going above and beyond for it, because he was late due to stopping to save some children. His college professor criticizes him for falling behind, without knowing it’s due to his nighttime extracurricular activities. His editor will only pay for the photos he can use to slander the young man’s alter ego. And Peter needs that money not just to pay his rent, but to help the dear aunt who’s about to be kicked out of her home for falling behind herself.
It’s a parade of horribles, and ones that don’t happen by chance, but rather by a young adult trying to do too much for too many and falling down on the job (sometimes literally). The twist of the nice comes near the midpoint of the movie, when his two best friends effectively reject him in sequence.
One is Mary Jane, who expects Peter at her big Broadway show, only to find that he’s a no-show. She upbraids him for the way he claims to be such a good friend, someone she can depend on, but who’s never there in the big moments of her life when she needs him. And the other is Harry Osborn, who bitterly berates Peter for stealing M.J., stealing his father’s love, and refusing to give up the identity of the man who killed his dad.
Here’s the thing, both of these rebukes are harsh, but justifiable! M.J. has a point. Peter isn’t around when she needs him. Harry has one too. From his perspective, Peter is choosing his father’s murderer over their friendship. And the thing is, the one fact that would change everything, the one detail that would explain his absences and his furtive demeanor, is the one thing he can’t tell them, for fear it would put them at risk.
The theme of the first half of Spider-Man 2 is Peter trying to do the right thing, coming up short time and again, and only hearing about his failures: from his bosses, from the papers, and from his loved ones. Over and over, he hears that he’s lazy, that he’s undependable, that he’s not applying himself, when the truth is that he’s giving his all to too many worthy causes, none of which he can rightly give up. He suffers for his art, and it’s what makes us care when chooses to continue with it.
One of the people who calls him lazy is Otto Octavius, a scientist working in the employ of Harry Osborn as the young mogul tries to live up to his father’s legacy. And yet, Dr. Octavius finds a kindred spirit in Peter, laying the groundwork for the importance of both love as reason to go and using your intellect for good. The film’s script smartly puts hero and villain in causal, mentor-like settings together before they inevitably clash on the field of battle.
Of course, this being a superhero film, Octavius’ grand science experiment goes terribly wrong, turning him into a deranged supervillain with four mechanical limbs, and foiling Harry’s attempts to be a successful businessman. The resulting baddie -- the famed Doctor Octopus -- is a triumph of direction, effects work, and performance.
Raimi’s skills as a horror film virtuoso and set piece-crafter extraordinaire really show off in Otto’s big scenes. The sweep of a miniature black hole when the doctor’s experiment goes wrong is kinetic and tragic. The sequence where his tentacles wake up and start to attack the doctors and assistants treating him is a dose of terror on par with anything in Raimi’s straight horror films. Doc Ock and Spidey’s stand-off at the bank is rife with tension and unique combat. And the pièce de résistance, the battle between hero and villain aboard a New York City subway, is filled with impressive choice after impressive choice, simultaneously feeling larger than life in terms of its threats, but surprisingly grounded in how much punishment Peter takes and how inventive he has to be to stay a step ahead of his antagonist.
Likewise, while the computer generated effects aren’t as seamless as they would be for similar films down the line, Otto’s tentacles are a thing of beauty. They’re a character in and of themselves, seeming to have moods, the ability to threaten, or simply act as dextrous appendages of the man who possesses them. Through a combination of puppetry and CGi wizardry, they feel like a part of Doctor Octopus, not simply an attachment to him.
Much of the credit, though, belongs to Alfred Molina, who absolutely kills it in the role. His bad guy has to communicate more shades than did Willem Dafoe’s. He’s believable as the friendly genius with high expectations of his erstwhile pupil. He’s heartbreaking as the romantic man who loses his wife in the throes of his own hubris. He is frighteningly plausible as the deranged figure who hears voices from his mechanical extensions, telling him to do bad things and justifying his past mistakes. He is appropriately menacing when he must cajole or wound or otherwise intimidate those around him to get what he wants. And he is riddled with pathos when he sacrifices himself to stop his misdeeds from hurting anymore people. Molina has to find all these sides of Otto, and he makes it look effortless.
Hell, even Tobey Maguire fares pretty well in this one! After his disappointing drab-fest in the 2002 predecessor, his Peter Parker feels much more like a well-rounded human being in this one. Freed from having to seem like he’s a teenager, with the tics and affectations he adopted in a futile attempt to make it plausible, Maguire comes off much more real in moments comic, joyful, and painful. He especially shines in the open-wound scene where he confesses his role in what happened to Uncle Ben to his Aunt May. It’s a showpiece scene, but Maguire nicely underplays it, thereby giving it more weight.
It comes at a pivotal point in the film, where Peter has genuinely given up his life as a hero. He seemed to get a nudge in that direction by the fact that his powers keep failing. I love the choice to ascribe the physical to the mental, conveying Peter’s growing dissatisfaction and self-doubt through his abilities diminishing as his psychological well-being deteriorates. It’s a deft way to make the internal mirror the external, and adds another justifiable reason why he would tell his uncle, literally and spiritually, that he just can’t do this anymore.
Frankly, I wish his “retirement” lasted longer. This is a superhero movie, and there’s probably not much audience interest in watching a powerless young man just be a human being for forty-five minutes. But Spider-Man 2 does give us enough of Peter being able to succeed in his normie life when he doesn’t have an eight-legged albatross hanging around his neck. He can get attaboys in class, make it to eight o’clock curtains on time, and even justify making a bid for M.J.’s love when he no longer has to fear the risks it would put her under.
Of course, that too comes at a cost. Beyond it being too little too late (almost), the city needs him. Crime rises without Spider-Man. Peter has to swallow his feelings (and a hotdog) when he sees someone crying out for help and turns his back, making it “not my problem” once more. Even J. Jonah Jameson (with J.K. Simmons returning as the film’s comic highlight) admits that this “menace” was a force for good in New York City, absence having (briefly) made the heart grow fonder.
And yet, it’s none of these things that spurs Spidey back into action. It is, appropriately enough, Aunt May who gets to give him the rousing lesson which gives him what he needs to know: that the world needs heroes, if only to inspire the next generation and set a laudable example for them, and that sometimes, doing what’s right means giving up your deepest held dreams.
Those are tough lessons, tougher than a lot of genre films go for. Being a paragon of virtue isn't easy, especially when it seems like it costs you esteem in the eyes of those closest to you. Hearing one of those people, however, tell you how much you matter as a symbol, as a role model, as a source of inspiration, helps ease the pain of knowing the path you choose, the one that would make the people who raised you proud, will also be a rocky one.
And having to give up your dreams in the name of the greater good is an even tougher pill to swallow. It not only helps give Peter the motivation to return to his rooftop heroics, but also helps him get through to Doctor Octopus. Building this groundbreaking energy source was Otto’s dream, and the thing that cost him the love of his own life. But hearing Peter’s secondhand wisdom helps cut through the fog of his robotic brainwashing (that and about ten thousand volts) and convinces him to stop his attempt to recreate the experiment and go down with the ship to save the lives of the innocent.
Before he does though, Doc Ock kidnaps Mary Jane in a bid to lure Spider-Man, something that, ironically, also helps Peter regain his drive to web-sling. The need to protect those you love reignites him, giving him the purpose and knowledge of what he wants that helps him overcome the mental limitations that have been creating just as potent physical limits.
But the ensuing skirmish exposes him to both of his best friends. Only, rather than fixing the problem, it only affirms how much Peter has to give up to do what’s right. When Harry unmasks Spider-Man, having bargained for his bête noire with Doc Ock in exchange for the catalyst for the mad scientist’s experiment, Peter says something startling in response. “There are bigger things happening here than me and you.”
It’s not quite, “the problems of three little people don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world,” but the sentiment is as palpable. Peter cares about his friends. We know how much the schisms between them hurt him. But he’s setting aside his own hurt in the name of staunching any more of it for others, especially M.J. There are grander things afoot than his own suffering, and that’s what makes him noble, regardless of whether he’s better or worse at it than Rick Blaine.
And even when he rescues Mary Jane, when she discovers who she is in the process, it doesn’t change his thinking. Knowing the secret merely allows him to tell her why they can’t be together, why he couldn’t bear to expose her to these sorts of threats on a daily basis. The moment of recognition creates an understanding between them, justifying his behavior in a way he had to sweep under the rug before. But it doesn’t alter his thinking, or his willingness to give up the thing he wants most in the world to vindicate the values of his aunt and uncle, no matter what hardships it brings down upon him.
Only for once, the universe rewards him for it. So much of the early portions of Spider-Man 2 practically rubs the audience’s nose in the fact that Peter Parker can’t catch a break. His landlord hears him come in when he’s trying to evade a rent payment he can’t make. Every drink and hors d'oeuvre at a fancy party is out of his reach. His bike gets run over on his way to the theater. So many of the big things go wrong for Peter, but so do the little things. It’s enough to make him believe he’s cursed, he’s karmically snake-bitten, that the world is stacked against him.
Until it gives him the thing he was ready to give up, the thing he eschewed in the name of being the man worthy of the people he looks up to and the people who look up to him. He sees the gratitude and inspiration in the people who rescue him on the subway car after he rescues them. But he also sees Mary Jane standing in the doorway, ready to start something together.
It’s something they can start with each knowing the perils potentially at play. It’s Mary Jane insisting that she’s an equal partner who can decide whether what they have is worth the risk. It’s Peter doing good, suffering so much for it, and having someone there ready to save him for once, spiritually if not literally.
I still don’t love the romance between Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson. But I love the catharsis of Peter trying so hard for so long, being willing to sacrifice everything in the name of doing the most good with the gifts he’s been giving, and finally enjoying the satisfaction of what really matters to him coming through in the end. Peter earns that here, and his journey marks Spider-Man 2 as one of the finest superhero films to grace the silver screen. With great power comes great responsibility. But with great sacrifice and great suffering, there can also still come great fulfilment.
no matter how much money they spend, marvel can never beat the El Train sequence.
never.
This is the best of Sam Raimi's Spiderman flicks and is one of the best in all the Superhero genre. There's a variety of reasons for this but it's mostly due to Alfred Molina's portrayal of Doctor Octopus. There's a lot of "Evil Dead" insanity in the operating room scene that features the arms of the Doctor and Spiderman sparring. It's trademark Raimi and it's the best sequence in any of the Spiderman films. Actually the fights between Spidey and Doc Ock are all great including the terrific runaway train scene and also the final act.
Tobey Maguire is very good as Peter Parker even though the relationship with Mary Jane in her Kirsten Dunst form just doesn't work well. She's dislikeable in the role and is written as being very needy and self-centered. It has the potential to spoil any rewatch if you're in a foul or less gracious mood.
The special effects are very good and the action scenes are all class. This is one sequel that tops the original.
The director of the film had a weakness for shots of people screaming, there are many scenes like that.
Ah man, I really loved this one when it first hit theaters. Now? Boy, it just hasn't held up so well. I still appreciate the effort to dig deeper into the character's history, exploring the classic "Spider-Man No More" storyline and treating Doctor Octopus with a fair degree of respect, but it's so thoroughly over-acted and packed with corny jokes that the good stuff is largely negated by the bad. Two steps forward, two steps back, if you will.
Every aspect of the film is like that. Tobey Maguire does a fine job of conveying the heavy burden of responsibility, suffering through an arduous personal life to satisfy a lofty private code, but he also hams it up like nobody's business and flat-out kills a few moments with his blunt delivery. Sam Raimi pieces together a scene that's arguably the character's best cinematic moment (that would be the great train rescue) but also over-indulges with abundant guest spots and awkwardly out-of-place throwbacks to his Evil Dead days. Doc Ock's escape from the operating room, for example, is straight-up B-grade horror fare.
The world-building stuff gets a bit out of control, too, which leads to an overstuffed running time and a plot that drags on forever. It's cute to see The Lizard, Black Cat and Man-Wolf before they've become rogues, but those guest spots aren't worth more than a quick smile and a wink. Why do they need to become recurring characters, when the cast is already bursting at the seams? There's interesting material here, and some memorable performances, but the whole thing needs a good fat-trimming.
had to give this the cheeky 9 because it was such a formative superhero film for me. Saw it in theatres on release and idk it just hit me in all the right spots as a 12 y/o. One of those ones I wore out the VHS copy of (probably the last VHS tape my parents bought for me).
While the writing suffers from the same problems as the previous movie, the overall presentation definitely improved here. It finally starts to show that Raimi is directing, and the impact of the action scenes got immensely bigger, with higher stakes and more great special effects for its time. The plot is pretty much the exact same: we have a brilliant scientist and father figure that gets controlled by his own creation and starts messing around, coincidentally involving everyone Peter loves. Same hokey dialogues, same teenage drama, same subpar acting. Still, a fun superhero flick to watch nevertheless, especially in the second half.
There is a confidence here that gives the film room to breathe and the film chooses to focus on much more relatable issues for Parker as he struggles to balance his new found status as a superhero with with the every day pressures of holding down a job, paying the rent and attending university. Molina is less hammy as the central villain and the action sequences are much stronger culminating in a standout sequence on top of a train. All the actors seem much more comfortable this time, though Kirsten Dunst yet again is given little to do - she deserves far better as the chemistry between her and Maguire has nothing to do with the script or plot. It’s definitely the best of the original trilogy of films and still very entertaining.
Crikey... What a mess.
Bigger budget. Better CG. More storyline. Yet it messes up a lot of this due to the original sin - shitty casting.
Macguire is more wooden than the Ark. Dunst seems to have had a labotomy so she only has one facial expression - and what the hell is that final look that closes the movie. Franco stinks up every scene he is in now.
Doc Ock is a better villain this time round but the motivations and execution are flipped more times than a coin.
The plot is an absolute mess but the pacing is even worse. Silly scenes added in for levity might work if they weren't overly long. And the massive dramatic scenes lack essence due to the poor casting.
I'm calling tosh on this one and Macguire's terrible stint as Spidey.
5/10
"Pizza time!"
When this movie was released, I still remember the chills I had throughought the whole thing. Still gives me chills til this day. The bank and train sequenece still hold up, and Spider-man himself is such a good hero in this one. J. Jonah Jameson also kills it. I could go on and on but it comes down to this: This really does feel like a comic book on the big screen.
This was a bit better and there are some actually inspired sequences, in a this-is-so-tacky-it-somehow-works way. Kirsten Dunst steals the scene completely.
"Brilliant, but lazy."
One of the best live action Spider-Man movies to date. This isn't just a superhero movie, it's a drama with some fantastic acting in it. While some people have complained about how "cheesy" these movies can be, but honestly I think with that kind of mindset on these movies kinda overshadows and undermines a lot of the amazing elements in this movie and the mature themes it tackles.
It can be corny, but you remember it more. Even then, the movie is much more than that.
Spiderman 2 (2004)
2h7m
A good part of the film (1h15m ca.) talks about how the life of a superhero is not as easy as it appears on TV screens, but, in a situation like that of Spider-Man, where he wants to remain anonymous, we are shown how difficult it is to balance 2 different lives between them, the normal life and the life of a superhero. We see how some friendships dissolve, the relationship with Mary Jane even comes to a breakup, debts to pay off, lack of money for rent and an aunt who misses her husband who died in the previous film. However, as interesting as the idea is, the length of this portion of the film could have been reduced, instead adding more action, which we only find in the last 30-40 minutes. Speaking of which, the action scenes are very well directed and the train scene is hands down the best of the film (if not of the entire Spider-Man saga). As for the antagonist, Octopus, I thought it was an interesting enemy, the aesthetic aspect is the best of all the antagonists of Spider-Man and his death made sense: the contemplation of the mistake he made (although it took very little to convince him to change his mind, two little words and poof) led him to sacrifice himself in order to save half of New York. All in all, the film turns out to be enjoyable, especially for fans of superhero movies, but not at the same level as the 1st.
[+] Best antagonist of the Spider-Man saga ; Showing Toby's difficulties in facing life outside of the superhero one ; Train scene
[-] Length of the film that could have been reduced to 1h45m; Classic superhero movie clichés; simplicity in making Octopus change his mind; characters that have no development from the prequel.
5.5/10
Part 2 (of 8) of my Spider-Man movie re-watch marathon in preparation for No Way Home. As with the first, I'm not going to update my original score for this movie (8/10) based on this viewing, despite many elements not holding up.
THE BAD: As with the first, this movie has more than its fair share of cheese. Of course, most of the cheese is likely just a symptom of trying to mirror the comic book story telling of the source material, i.e. the dialogue is simple, the relationships are simple, the character arcs are simple, everything is simple. This isn't an insurmountable flaw and the intentionality of it certainly helps (plus the performers are all game to ham it up), but compared to the more ambitious storytelling in modern superhero media (e.g. Logan or even Infinity War/Endgame), everything on display here starts to feel very Saturday morning cartoon (or rather, old Saturday morning cartoon, as even animated shows these days have stepped up their game, e.g. Harley Quinn or Arcane). Beyond the cheese, most of my critiques from the first movie also return. The relationship with MJ is still a mess. Tobey Maguire still doesn't feel quite right as Spider-Man (although I think his performance is an improvement over the first, mainly because his arc allows him to display a bit more range). Watching back to back with the first also highlighted how Doc Oc's origin is largely a rehash of the Green Goblin's (overly ambitious but not evil man is corrupted by uncontrolled technology that takes over his mind, to the point where they both talk to themselves). Final action set piece was perhaps a bit overly ambitious for the technology available at the time and looks quite dated in several places.
THE GOOD: Every scene with J.K. Simmons. The train sequence and really all action sequences involving Doc Oc. More humor. The lost powers plotline, while undoubtedly contrived, does make for some fun moments. The direction is impressive and often memorable. I know this good list feels a bit short, but... it's a Spider-Man movie. The webslinging is more than enough to make up for my nitpicks and at the end of the day its still a good time.
This movie overcame the first one and besides being a SCREAMING SIMULATOR 2004, Spider-Man 2 is the best live-action movie of the hero (for now). Powerful messages, strong plot, quirky and funny jokes and surprisingly, the fight scenes and the VFX overall aged really well.
The train scene and the hospital scene are PERFECT. Gotta love Sam Raimi.
Tobey and Alfred Molina stole the show.
My final conclusion: MJ BELONGS TO THE STREETS!
This is one of the few instances where a prequel is better that the original. Spider-Man 2 might be my all time favorite pre MCU movie by Marvel. Great story, awesome villain and really good CGI (even in 2021) makes this movie hugely entertaining. Also the look of Spider-Man in this OG trilogy is still the best one imo.
A film about how difficult it is to be a superhero when in normal life it is difficult to life is without having everything served on a tray. ;)
Simply putting, awesome.
What I really love about this movie is that it sums up everything that defines Spider-Man and Peter Parker. His struggles, his determination, his will and resilience to always keep going and never giving up. Everything that's part of his essence is present here. We are presented to powerful lessons and messages along the way. Incredibly inspiring.
"Spider-Man No More!" adaptation comes in a perfect moment. Really well tied with the story. All the cast is super good once again, I've got nothing to complain - I mean, Kirsten is definitely not amazing, but I don't hate her as most people do.
There’s also a great villain! Alfred Molina does a tremendous job as Doctor Octopus. He is a cool looking villain and proves to be a real challenge and threat. By the way, his powers match really well with Spider-Man’s skills to make the film entertaining. He has a little redemption in the ending that I liked as well.
The score is just absurd. Danny Elfman’s work fits perfectly with the tone of the movie and evokes tremendously well those values I mentioned earlier.
Sam Raimi orchestrates all of this amazingly. Great arc and construction of the characters and plot. By the way, there are some scenes that could belong in a horror movie - like the hospital scene with Doc Ock. Nice references to Evil Dead. You really nailed it, Raimi.
What was already amazing, just gets better. That train sequence is so epic and emotional! Spider-Man’s synthesis is all over this movie and this set piece is the peak.
These two films of the friendly neighborhood directed by Raimi hold up really well till these days and will always do, I'm sure of it.
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Still one of the best superhero movies, Spider-Man 2 is a sequel worthy of its action scenes, its strong symbolism and its amazing villain.
I can rewatch this movie endlessly without it losing its place as one of my favorite superhero movies every created. Thats pretty much all i need to say. if you love this movie your a smart and decent human being, if you didn't, then you suck. there it is.
2 Hours 7 Minutes was too much
The Plot was Stretched And The Writing was Horrible
Directing Was also Bad IMO.. Also a point off for the pace
My Final Rating 5/10
There's a part of me that wants to like this movie more than I do.
Spiderman 2 is a film that improves on its predecessor in nearly every way, which is good, since that fist film has its fair share of flaws.
Sam Raimi's direction is much tighter, resulting in a film with better pacing. Moreover, this film has some praiseworthy, iconic action set pieces (e.g. the train scene and the bank robbery) that are still remembered nowadays.
As for the acting, I always thought that Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst were pretty bland in the first one, and that their chemistry doesn't work. That still remains the same here. On the other hand, J.K. Simmons and Alfred Molina are amazing, and both their characters have some awesome moments that have been used as memes ever since (once again: iconic is the right label).
The biggest problem of this entire trilogy is still the tone. I am fine with a good amount of cheese, as long as it isn't dumb or non-sensical. Moments like these are scattered throughout the film, and are incredibly bothersome. When Spider-man yelled "I'm back" while jumping from one rooftop to another without having his powers, and as a result fell down, I literally shook my head. Furthermore, I feel like there needed to be a clearer definition of the vulnerability of the hero, as he is smacked by various deadly objects without being damaged.
What ultimately saves this film are the emotional moments. This film goes deeper with its characters, and has some good emotional beats, which is makes it stand out in the 'bigger is better' field of sequels. It's not the perfect film some make it out to be (and I think I would've been kinder to it if I saw it when it came out), but it's one of those rare sequels that's actually better than the first.
5.5/10
I have a ton of memories from childhood this and it's video game. I know it's not at the same level as current superhero movies but I still has a lot of fun with it. Alfred Molina is great as Doc Ock. The quiting montage is forever in my brain everytime I hear that song. The train set piece is fantastic.
The best super hero movie ever!
I will never understand why so many people say this movie is one of the greatest in the superhero genre, is way too simple... Tobey Maguire can't act, Peter's Plotlines feel like a big filler and his love with MJ is really unispired. The main villain is really lame. The only things i liked in this "classic" were the action sequences and maybe how the movie present the downsides of being Spider-man but also why is important to Peter character follow his morality because if he don't do the shit nobody will.
I'll always love that Raimi managed to sneak in a dig at Maguire's attempt to hold the movie hostage for more money by having his "doctor" excuse him for back problems. "I'm back! Ow, my back!"
It's a great follow up to number 1 but I feel like it was way to long for what it actually gave us. The character development outside of Peter was next to nothing. Other than that a solid movie.
There are so many screaming women in this movie
This is OK as a sequel but if you decided to see this before the original, I bet you'd be very disappointed. Improvements to the special effects means nothing when the production quality doesn't match it. There's also serious tempo problems... (not to say the original was perfect, but it was at least very close to holding my attention and building excitement consistently).
Between the cheesy production effects and the feeling of constantly waiting for something interesting to happen, this was aiming to be a 4/10 rating for me, but when the train scene starts is when it finally matches the tempo that the original film had — it's crazy how much happens (action, romance, and story-wise) in those final 45 mins. If the entire film was like that it would have been great, instead it just feels like we spent an hour waiting for it.
Theme- 8/10
Rewatchibility- 8/10
Acting- 8.5/10
Kinematography- 9.5/10
Time- 9/10
Total - 43/5 = 8.6
Harnessing the power of the sun in the palm of his hand is one Doctor Octopus in the superior sequel in the Sam Raimi trilogy. It is in essence what most great superhero movies have replicated since 2004. A hero who must overcome a battle with themselves to save the ones they love. It's a tried and true method of insurmountable odds that Raimi nearly overplayed. You will understand if you've seen this that there is a point of, 'Jeez I get it Peter Parker's life sucks and Spider-Man's not helping things much'. It does work even if it feels heavy-handed at times. Peter starts to signs of depravity opening the character up to the moral ambiguity needed for a certain symbiote to exploit. Alfred Molina is astounding, J.K. Simmons continues to crush it, and James Franco is beyond punch-able for every second he's on-screen and continues the tradition of me disliking every iteration of Harry Osborn I've ever seen. Franco is only a small gripe as well as a handful of others that exist but doesn't detract from me having a really good time with the movie. Now if only I can muster up the nerve to watch Spider-Man 3 one last time.
8/10
Great
Entry once again
into Tobey's
Spider-man run.
Doc Oc is amazing as
The Antagonist and I
definitely enjoy him
more than
The Green Goblin.
The cgi is much cleaner
in this installment and the
stakes are much higher.
The performances are as
Solid as ever and it was
Great to see Stan and Bruce
again.
The Train scene is still
as iconic as ever and
As Awesome as ever
and I found this installment
very interesting on how much
it mirrored the first installment
only with the main difference
of Peter having a blockage
with his power's,
But even with the parallels
to the first movie they
still managed to improve
upon it and make something
Very entertaining and actually
very heartfelt.
speaking of
Even though
Tom's Spider-Man
(my favourite) and
MJ are my favourite couple
I really ship Tobey's
Spider-man and his
Mary Jane.
(It was just that look
at the end of the movie
she gave the camra,
the second thoughts
I may have a problem
with this situation after all
Look).
anyway that's for another
day and another movie.
Verdict:
Best of the Trilogy.
Bigger better movie,
Great watch,
Good story and
Clean vfx.
"GO GET EM TIGER":spider_web:
I've decided to rewatch this movie after almost one month without watching anything, not just because it is one of my favorites superhero movie, but also because it isn't just a simple superhero movie... it has a strong message behind it, something to talk, something that in certain way connects with what I'm living. Because of that, I thought it was the right momento to see it and I am glad I was right!
Spider-Man 2 is a movie that goes over the action and fantasy, because it can treats Spider-Man/Peter Parker as a character with a lot of layers, so the movie approaches another aspects of his life and how - different of what we see in a great part of the superhero movies - the his superpowers are actually a weight that he has to carry, because even with them (and why not because of them...?) Peter Parker is nothing more than a fucked up guy with a horrible life, this is the Spider-Man essence.
Although the movie has some dated shots, it doesn't disturb the immersion, Sam Raimi puts his identity in this movie and puts some horror elements that can be associated with another of this movies. This is not a perfect movie, but certainly is one of the best superhero movies ever made.
SPIDER-MAN IS JUST SO COOL.
“I’ve been reading poetry lately.”
Much better than the first movie. Not as camp for a start, though still a little dated. The plot thread of Peter Parker struggling with his responsibilities and the sacrifices he has to make as a young man elevates this above a simple action flick.
All I know is that it's Pizza Time
It’s been said to be one of the best superhero films ever made...and it is. Spider-Man 2 is a thrilling film with an epic tale. The story of Peter Parker continues as he struggles to balance his normal life with his life as a superhero. Tobey Maguire, Kirsten Dunst, James Franco, and Alfred Molina all give strong performances, making for rich and interesting characters. And the story is especially well-crafted; dealing with themes of identity, freewill, and sacrifice. The special effects are especially ambitious, but they end up falling short at times and can be distracting. However, the score is remarkably effective, and enhances the tone of the film. Incredibly powerful and compelling, Spider-Man 2 delivers an exciting adventure that raised the bar for the superhero genre.
Just as good as the first installment.
Best of the series without a doubt
The second best superhero film of the last twenty years or so, right behind Batman v Superman.
The philosophical questions it asks about being a superhero were pretty ambitious for the time. It makes for a fantastic story about Peter Parker having trouble dealing with his personal life, and his unassigned duty as Spider-Man, something that's expected of him by the people of New York.
It's a great film, especially an action film too. Highly recommended by me, and I'm not much of a fan of superhero stories.
Best Spider-Man movie hands down.
Actually a pretty good film. Doc Ock is one of the best Spidey villains/rogues, and that whole train scene was so good !! Some pretty odd lines tho: "When you punch me I bleed" wtf? Definitely worth watching even if you don't want to watch SM1 or SM3.
Another great second film, that got followed up by a disappointing 3rd film.
In terms of character developement this is one of the best of all Marvel movies. And I stick to my comment about Maguire - he was the best Spider-Man. I still can´t understand why this series had to be re-booted again and again. Even if the third is bad (I haven´t seen it at the time I write this) - so what ?! Not every movie involving the Avengers was great and it didn´t destroyed the series.
Takes every element from the first film and improves on it!
The action scenes make this one good. MJ was more likeable in the first film than in the sequels though. In this she rips Peter a new one for trying to tell her a romantic poem he wrote for her. In part 3 she managed to be even more bitchy towards him.
The movie has a fitting great ending. Too bad the 3rd didn't take the ball and run with it though.
It's way better than 1, but still has some laughable things that some characters say.
Démant!
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One of the few prequels I know that surpasses the original! Very entertaining & with a great message: "Sometimes you have to give up your dreams for the greater good".