"Directed by Jonathan Frakes". Guest stars aren't always in front of the camera :)
Also, Charlize Theron <3
Up next, Natalie Portman? Besides the episode itself, guest stars are becoming something to look forward in "The Orville".
This show has turned up to be quite a pleasant surprise, it's undeniably very "Star Trek" at heart. It feels odd to admit that, as a Star Trek fan, I'm actually enjoying this more than "Star Trek: Discovery".
"Should we take the leg?"
"Hey, listen, I don't want to play the blame game here."
"That's because you're the one to blame."
"Look, we all made mistakes."
"Nobody made mistakes but you."
"Let's not do the 'I told you so' thing."
"I told you so, numerous times."
Yeah, I'm really enjoying this fun, fun show. Seth should be proud of his creation here, and Jonathan Frakes did a fine job of directing this outing.
Make that three pickle jar jokes in as many episodes, this time with godawful CGI to go with it.
Interesting that the show is set farther in the future than any Star Trek series, but doesn't have teleportation technology available. An excuse for shuttle docking effects porn every week? (i.e. the exact opposite of the reason why Roddenberry gave the Enterprise a transporter.)
If asked for the most Star Trek–like thing about The Orville, it's that the captain regularly goes on away missions. Dangerous ones.
And he always almost gets killed.
The last scene is iffy on the effects.
Stars outside the captain's office window: moving.
Ship: stationary.
What.
Pria shouldn't have vanished. That creates all kinds of plot holes that wouldn't exist if she'd stuck around to be dropped off at a Union base or whatever they would do with her. Since she disappeared, that implies she never existed in this timeilne, so she couldn't have saved the Orville from the dark matter storm, which means Mercer couldn't have ordered the wormhole destroyed. But if the wormhole isn't destroyed, then Pria continues to exist in this timeline, which means the wormhole Mercer will order the wormhole destroyed, which means… Time travel is a bitch to write.
I love these good old fahsioned stories. I doubt the Discovery will ever even have an episode where they are just cruising and pick up a distress call and go to investigate. Also the ship is awesome and extremely "livable" just like the Enterprise D.
I noticed that this episode was directed by Jonathan Frakes, of course, Commander Riker from TNG. With ringers like that on board, it's no wonder that the show is this good.
[6.1/10] I don’t know what to do with this episode. It’s a cool idea. The notion of a secret time traveling antiques dealer from the 29th Century who gains the crew’s trust and then uses it to steer them into a wormhole to the future is a neat one. The very concept of a time-hopper who essentially nabs ships right before they get destroyed so as not to disrupt the timestream is a clever one. Even the way Pria ingratiates herself to the crew by posing as someone in need of rescue, and then gets them out of a jam to earn their trust is a cool move.
(As an aside, Pria’s initial outfit feels like a deliberate homage to Daniels from Star Trek: Enterprise, a show which Seth MacFarlane cameoed on.)
Plus, you have the boon that is Charlize Theron. She sells Pria as both a master manipulator but also someone who is matter of fact about what she does. Some of Pria’s plan is convoluted, but Theron brings such a lightly villainous, “that’s just what I do” air about her that it makes it work. She sells the emotions in the scene, so even when she’s not great at spitting out the Treknobabble, she gets the important stuff right.
But god, this is so rooted in the romantic drama between Mercer and Grayson, and it just doesn’t work. It hasn’t worked from the start of the show, and this episode certainly didn’t help. There’s an interesting story to be told of an officer mixing up her personal and professional impulses, and an equal and opposite question for a captain thinking he has good reason to trust someone but maybe ignoring personal attraction clouding his judgment. But this show’s just not equipped to handle it. It comes off like more cheesy romcom stuff rather than an interesting intersection of inner feelings and professional responsibilities.
I can also tell you from having seen A Million Ways to Die in the West that Charlize Theron and Seth MacFarlane don’t seem believable as an on-screen couple. That’s especially true for an outing that’s more devoted to Mercer working through his baggage than about establishing a genuine attraction. MacFarlane’s not good at writing that sort of intimate, confessional, flirty dialogue, and seems artificial when performing it, so it just doesn’t work. (Nevermind the fact that MacFarlane tries to play sympathetic everyman when he comes off more like a fratty bro.)
That said, I do like how the B-story about Lloyd teaching Isaac about practical jokes isn’t just a side plot, but comes back in a clever way. There’s good setup with Lloyd’s Mr. Potato Head prank, absurd escalation with Isaac amputating Lloyd’s leg, and then a final payoff with Isaac proving he gets it in a ruse to fool Pria. I wasn’t on board with it when the episode started -- it felt a little too sitcom-y -- but I liked where they went with it. The rolciking climax with the tentacle alien ship had some good thrills to it. (The ship design on this show continues to be fantastic.)
But the time travel elements don’t exactly work. If the Orville shoots the wormhole, does that just mean Pria disappears from that point forward? Or does it mean that none of this happened at all? They try to make it a big emotional decision from Mercer that means reverting to a state before he was able to push past some of his baggage from his divorce, but it’s not clear why the one would result in the other. Time travel has always played by rules of convenience in Trek, but this isn’t intuitive. It also assumes the audience is more invested in Mercer’s personal life than the show’s been able to earn.
This is a real mixed bag of an episode. I really like the concept of this one, and if MacFarlane would give up the pen to someone else, or if it was in a proper Star Trek show, I think the story could work. But mired in the continued, unavailing relationship drama between Mercer and Grayson and weak emotional/intimate dialogue, even a guest performance from an Oscar-winner can’t save it.
This is the first episode where I thought the humor was actually better than the story. The practical joke on Gordon was hilarious.
It's obvious Pria was not what she claimed to be especially since they made Kelly suspect her. Which then becomes another problem as the whole thing relies to much on the botchered relationship between her and Ed.
I mean, it's great having names like Charlize Theron on the show. Or Jonathan Frakes directing. But it's still the content that counts.
Well, can't like them all. So on to the next.
Had an incredibly good laugh when Gordon woke up without his leg :D
This one felt much much dorkier, than the previous episodes. Nice paradox by the way, wonder if this will be leading to continuity errors.
i have a bad feeling about "i have a bad feeling about this" might refer to a catch phrase from Star Wars (especially Han Solo's)
Can someone explain how come Pria disappeared?
I really like The Orville, and this is my second time of working my way through all the seasons. S1 so far has been very good, even on the second viewing. However, this episode is really mediocre. The storyline is predictable and boring - another love interest story where the mysterious lover turns out to be nefarious, an the time travel thing is just a convenient way to make a cheap episode. There were a few decent one-liners and gags, but this whole episode lacked any originality or excitement other than for one scene where the mysterious captain saved the ship. . I really expected better from Jonathan Frakes, but this is just a rehashed mediocre TNG episode. Let's return to the previous quality in the next episodes.
Huh. Unless I’m mistaken, I think this is the first we ever see Seth with his shirt off lol
Sigh. The previous episodes were really promising and true to science fiction in a really progressive approach to thought experiments but this one was just completely sexist and predictable writing.
Even the solution and correction of the timetravel conundrum was just lame.
It truly is science fiction with dark matter.
It's Charlize Theron. Directed by Jonathan Frakes
Best practical joke ever XD
and what is 'junior mints' , and why it trigger Ed to jump to helm and do something on it?
I am an incredible dumbass, it took me this long to "get" the relevance of the name Orville.
Still NOT funny or humorous or anything close to that, just boring .... the robot should have cut off his head so we wouldn't have to listen to his stupid dialog!!!!
Shout by Russell ZoloftBlockedParent2017-10-07T18:32:41Z
. . . and that "jar of pickles" was an incredibly bad special effects.