The best episode but maybe I think so just because I am crushing on Alara lol.
Robert Picardo! Such a joy to see him in an allegedly satire show of his former show. I do hope these trekkie treats will keep coming (c'mon, Seth, just get Patrick Stewart on speed dial, already).
This episode was creepy as hell! It's like The Orville stopped being The Enterprise for an episode to become the Event Horizon instead. I get shivers and goosebumps every time I think of that dreadful ship... Rambling aside, great creepy episode (good job with the clown, btw)!
I really like this as a character episode for Alara, but I wouldn't call it a great episode outside of that.
Cmdr. Grayson: "We have crew members trying to murder each other."
Capt. Mercer, moments later: "From this point forward, I want everyone to carry weapons at all times."
What. LOGIC!
Speaking of logic, how much sense does it really make that something knocks the power out and kills the lights everywhere on the ship, but the automatic doors still work? Isaac even says, "Ship's power is completely offline."
And also speaking of logic (well, it's more of a continuity thing): Alara says the energy rifle is set on maximum, "and we both know that's enough to vaporize even you." But it doesn't vaporize shit when she fires.
Yes, I know the whole thing is a simulation, and it doesn't have to follow all the rules of reality. That was the point, even—making things happen that couldn't in real life. But there's a difference between breaking the rules because it's necessary for the simulation and breaking the rules because of lazy writing.
Robert Picardo in the insensitive-father role? Oy. I was actually really excited when I saw his name pop up in the opening guest-star credits, but now I just feel cheated out of a proper Picardo cameo. It's tempting to ask him (probably in vain) on Twitter what the producers did to get him in that role.
[7.8/10] I love the emotional throughline for Kitan on this one. I love the premise of facing an unknown source of seemingly unstoppable fears as a barrage against the crew. And I hate the reveal and explanation for why it’s happening, which makes this a tough one to grade.
But I’m inclined to look on it favorably nonetheless. There’s a strong emotional challenge for Kitan here that I appreciate. Her guilt over having the physical strength to save someone, but potentially losing them because a blast of fire deterred her for a moment, out of fear, and caused her to show up a few seconds too late, is a sympathetic motivation. We both understand the fact that Kitan is beating herself up unnecessarily, but also why she’s doing show and feels like she should be better.
That self-doubt and concern works as a driving force here. It sets up nicely the events that ensue, when she has to face a variety of traditional fears, some rooted in psychology and others rooted in more basic fear response, that prompt her to have to respond quickly in a crisis. The detail that she has a deep-seated phobia from when she was an infant adds an interesting wrinkle to the whole thing.
But most of all, Kitan is at her most relatable here, blaming herself for having a very human (if you’ll pardon the expression) reaction to something and considering herself unfit for duty because of such an understandable lapse. It’s a great performance from Halston Sage, who sells Kitan’s remorse and self-doubt like gangbusters.
That said, even apart from the emotional contingent, “Firestorm” works well as a pure horrorshow. While some of the effects are spotty, the carousel of fears, from clowns to spiders to chasms to isolation makes for some cool and frightening setpieces. My favorites are the unnecessary surgery, which conveys such a sense of claustrophobic helplessness, bolstered by Dr. Finn making a skin-crawling turn as a BOB-type antagonist. I also really liked the crew of the ship disappearing, which not only pays tribute to an episode of The Next Generation that operated on similar terms, but which allows the show to convey terror through the creepy emptiness of a normally well-populated ship.
The scarisness is amplified by the fact that the audience has no idea what’s going on or what could cause all these fears. My theory was some sort of radiation or alien presence from the storm that opens the episode, but really, it’s the not knowing that makes this one extra scary.
Until we do know. Look, I can see the intuitive appeal of Kitan wanting to put herself through some kind of simulation to check and see whether she has any other latent fears besides fire that she doesn’t know about. But the way this goes down just strains credulity. It requires too much explanation and mental gymnastics for why this sort of thing would ever be allowed, including invoking some weird directive, lying to Dr. Finn, and a series of other contrivances that don’t pass the smell test.
It just don’t make sense, and the show has to spend a good chunk of the last act trying to account for why, if you squint and don’t think about it too hard, it might.
Still, if you can mentally separate that out, this is still a great episode. The scare scenes are very well done, the mystery is compelling up until the point when the answer is revealed, and Kitan’s psychological journey is well done. As janky as the final twist is, the moment when she sleeps soundly, secure in the knowledge that she can overcome and face anything, is earned. This one is worth watching, even if the ending is a lot to be desired.
(As an aside, in the “ship whose passengers don’t know they’re on a ship” episode, Kitan speculated that it’d be a toss-up if she ever had to go against Isaac. It’s cool that we get to see the showdown happen and see that she’s right, at least in simulation form. I also like the worldbuilding detail that Salayans think military service is beneath them, to where Kitan’s parents are basically still nudging her to go to grad school rather than expressing pride in her. It’s a nice connection to Kitan’s species as a Vulcan analogue.)
Arachnophobia warning! Besides that the episode is great.
There is a wrong assumption that just because Orville has humor in it it’s a show for children, and Discovery is really for the grown ups and Trekkies. I would suggest it’s precisely the other way round.
Ok I’m LOVING all the twists and turns this episode. Even I couldn’t figure out what was happening.
But man, poor Alara. It’s genuinely sad she felt the need to put herself through that terrible simulation, but I’m happy she conquered it despite all. I would’ve been pissed if it was all just a nightmare or if the crew put her through the simulation without her consent to teach her a lesson, but no. Alara put herself through it to toughen her up. Kudos.
laaaaaame. so damn fecking predictable
As soon as Alara saw the clown I knew she was still in the holodeck thing.
What's the point of making a show for Star Trek fans if you're just going to rehash everything ST has done?
What a great episode! Think it may have been even better if they revealed the holodeck simulation until later, but other then that, was great!
Episode centered on Alara, which is always good
This was great, maybe my favourite so far. Parts of the episode genuinely creeped me out. Alara is great and really good when taking the lead in an episode.
Good as a character building episode as we learn about the fears of the crew. Other than that I´m sure most people guessed that she was in some kind of simulation. Since I am personally not a huge fan of horror stories of any kind this wasn´t my favorite episode. But the score here was really great.
Another week, another great outing for the show that I almost didn't even give a chance. A good story, some character development for Alara, and a near-perfect amount of humor combine to make this one a winner.
Seems like this episode should have aired around halloween time but still funny and entertaining nonetheless.
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Best episode yet. But who was responsible for the alligator?