I have Andor vibes from this episode, amazing
Mando scenes aside, the stuff on Coruscant was mildly interesting for a few minutes (up until it was clear what was going to happen), but it was way too dragged out. So, unfortunately overall a rather average episode.
sort of a boring episode, too much filler, the mandalorian bits were interesting, but feels like they had story which they are decompressing just for the sake of 8 episodes which is disappointing.
The actual Mandalorian parts were good, but the rest was just a poor attempt on trying to be like Andor but failing miserably. The Doctor is a very interesting character and so much more could’ve been done with him, too bad they didn’t explore him properly.
The action in this season has been taken to another level. Simply epic so far.
Loved the scenes with Mando and Bo but although it was awesome to see Coruscant after the fall of the empire, the storyline was stretched out way too long.
Awesome Episode, loved every part of it. Doesn’t matter that the filler part wasn’t mandalorian, every bit of Star Wars you usually don’t see, like everyday life, is great to finally see. Never mind the haters people. Love Star Wars, don’t hate it.
Once again, more Bo (and Din) please :ok_hand_tone5:
I knew she was up to something and couldn't be trusted. Called it!
This season just keeps getting better! The production rivals a feature film..
"It was a trap" Haha :joy:
JUST the Mandalorian parts by themselves made this one of the best episodes of the series. JUST those parts.
I did not have Mr. Pershing Goes to Washington on my bingo card. Damn them for making Coruscant feel so real, because I know I can never go there. I really wanted to believe that Kane was genuinely converted and Pershing was the one who was harboring malcontent. Gideon may be gone, but she is definitely working for whomever sent all those TIE Bombers.
But the gold medal goes to the final scene. Bo had a classic come-to-Jesus moment. It's not the life she envisioned, but it's the best life available to her now. Can't wait to feel the uncomfortable silence between her and Paz. And I was scared that Bo would somehow know who the Armorer is and they would have a serious falling out. I guess the worst thing right now is having a Kryze & a Vizsla living in the same cave.
Also this is in keeping with my selfish head-canon that Grogu is going to get a mommy.
In contrast to many comments here I really liked this episode. Especially the part with the (former) doctor. Best episode sofar.
And no I don’t need 100% Mando. I also need these sidestories otherwise it would become quite boring.
I'm getting really worried. This season is nothing what I hoped it would be. And while I could easily set that aside as a case of having to much expectations, this marks the first time I was bored watching an episode of this show.
The parts with Pershing are way too long. That was a completely different show. Not that it isn't interesting to see how the New Republic deals with Empire remnants. But it was also too easy to see through. Or is there any doubt why she did what she did ? In any case, I don't think it pratically warrants a whole episode for that part of the story. The really interesting parts this season are a side story so far.
At this point I'd take about 10 minutes fom each episode and skip the rest.
[7.8/10] This is going to sound a little odd, but the bulk of “The Convert” felt more like an episode of Andor than it did of The Mandalorian. I’m not complaining though. One of the things I like about the other show is that it gives us a look at people’s lives away from the movers and shakers of the galaxy. The sense of place of the Star Wars galaxy improves when you get to witness how normal people live their lives, where the world acts upon them more than they act upon it. Which is all to say that I wouldn’t necessarily have asked for an episode on the life and times of Dr. Pershing, but I’m glad we got it anyway.
I like it as a slice of life story. One of the big questions that's been underexplored in Star Wars is a simple but important one -- what do we do with all the ex-Imperials? The new canon has plenty of examples of former Imps who decided to break good: Iden Versio in Battlefront II, Yeager in Resistance, Sinjir in the Aftermath Trilogy. But few folks who tried to just become regular folks in the regular world. Pershing’s participation in the amnesty program, the humdrum life that he leads, and his desire to finish his work, all bring this down to a smaller, more personal scale that makes a onetime operator for the bad guys sympathetic in an intimate, down-to-earth way you don’t often get in an operatic franchise. It’s a breath of fresh air, honestly.
I love the fact that he genuinely thought he was doing some good. He had a understandable, personal reason for getting into cloning and genetic engineering. He wants to continue his work, and is willing to break the rules to do it because he seems to genuinely believe it could help the New Republic, and to him that's what matters most of all.
Well, that and a friendship that blossoms and helps make him feel seen and at home in uncomfortable circumstances. One of the things I like about “The Convert” is that it shows how Pershing is worn down by his situation. There’s something downright Office Space-esque about his rigid, cubicle-centered work life. His living quarters are bland and gray. He has freedom to go to the public event in the square, but for all the vaunted freedom of the New Republic, there’s still rules in place, particularly for those less-than-trusted former members of the Empire. When Pershing’s monotony is only broken by sycophantic aristocrats fawning over his Ted Talk, you can understand why he wants to color outside the lines.
Well that and the fact that he’s encouraged by someone who seems to get him in a way few others do. I’ll confess that I barely remember Elia Kane from prior episodes of The Mandalorian, but I like how she’s used here. She seems like a kindred spirit, one who encourages Pershing, who helps him, who gives him a case of the yellow travel biscuits he misses, and who treats him like a human being, not a curiosity. After subsisting in a world of cruelty, rank, and rigid expectation, someone who would help him to cut loose and be his own person is a trope, but a heartening one.
Which makes it seem extra cruel and unjust when Kane turns out to be working for the Amnesty enforcement group, and that her whole friendship and encouragement of Pershing turned out to be a case of entrapment. She seems to have ulterior motives -- Pershing knowing too much about Gideon’s work, perhaps. But the simple fact of Pershing trying to do good, being led into breaking the rules to do it, and punished for it by the person who talked him into it feels harsh and unfair in a palpable way.
The New Republic is supposed to be a paradise, or at least an improvement on the uncaring oppression that existed before. “The Convert” posits that it might be for some people, but that many who lived through the age of the Empire are as penned in now as they were then, that different ways of wearing people down emerge, even if they’re wrapped in a smile and a gentle reassurance rather than in open cruelty and jackboots.
Therein lies the connection between the main story of “The Convert”, featuring Dr. Pershing’s new life and his sad fall, with the bookends of Din and Bo Katan escaping from an Imperial warlord’s forces and reconnecting with the enclave of the Children of the Watch.
Because there are two converts here, each who have markedly different experiences and find themselves in very different spaces. Pershing is converted from the Empire to the New Republic. Bo Katan is converted from her ambivalence toward her people’s traditions to The Way.
Pershing finds that his supposed friend is, in fact, a turncoat who just wanted to trap him and use the Empire’s tools to wipe his mind away. Bo Katan finds that Din is an honorable man, who sticks his neck out to protect her and her home, when he didn’t have to. Pershing is stuck in an impersonal world, where he’s driven by droids, counseled by droids, policed by droids. Bo Katan finds a place where she is ultimately welcomed by her fellow men and women, with real human beings who bring her into the fold.
Most of all, Dr. Pershing comes to a place where he is theoretically welcome and a citizen, but where he’s kept at arm’s length, restricted, continually judged and nudged into being something other than what he is or wants to be. At the same time, Bo Katan walks in as a skeptic and an outsider to the Children of the Watch, but simply by having been cleansed in the same living waters and not removed her helmet, she is not only accepted and embraced by her fellow Mandalorians, but also granted the freedom to leave without questions if she so desires. There is a freedom and an acceptance that distinguishes them, despite their theoretically similar positions.
That's heady stuff, the kind of intimate worldbuilding and social comparisons that are more the provenance of Cassian Andor’s show than Din Djarin’s. Nonetheless, I’m please to see The Mandalorian take a page out of its sister series’ book, and give us a look at the corners of the Star Wars galaxy, and the kind of people and experiences, that aren’t normally in focus.
Am I still watching Mandolorian? It’s hard to tell!
I don't know if Bo-Katan is a better pilot than Starbuck!
What a terrific episode. A lot of time was spend on setting up a new threat and it was really well done (dind't see that twist coming) . Props to Katy O'Brian and Omid Abtahi who carried this one. Starting and ending with Din and Bo-Katan was a good choice as well. I even got a bit emotional at the end.
It's as if someone made an Andor sandwich using Mandalorian bread...
This episode was an important corollary to our times. It showed the dangers of rehabilitating fascists, which is something a number of adherents to Left-Wing ideology believe is possible. It is not. You don't turn off that type of thinking, racial superiority, gender superiority, religious superiority, ethnic superiority, and the belief that due to their "inherent superiority," they are entitled to rule as they please, and employ any means necessary, including violence, to keep others down. This is not something you rehabilitate others from, either due to the deep-seated nature of these beliefs or the past harm they wrought b/c of them. In other words, the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.
I thought this was absolutely amazing. I even want to say one of the best of any Star Wars series. The best part was the Coruscant scenes. It was so magical and I was completely drawn into it. Just the environment and them talking.
Yawn. What a boring episode. Especially the centerpiece on Coruscant. A filler.
What a killer start to the episode and ending!! I’m very intrigued by the new side story. Loving this season so far!
This is the way!
I don’t understand the point of the filler between the cold open and closing scene
Loved this episode. It made up for the last chapter. I’m glad they introduced the other storyline to give it some depth. Above all else, the visuals are absolutely stunning, especially the chase scenes with the interceptors/bombers.
I got met some Severance vibes
I knew this episode was going to be divisive 15 minutes in. 2/3 of it is like the casino section from The Last Jedi.
Make it stop…
Or boost this up for adults
Great start and ending of this episode. In the middle we saw an attempt of character development up to a point, it was good, but all of a sudden large plot holes showed up! Who is so naive to leave totally unguarded a minimum operational star destroyer? And who is so naive to go away from his post leaving behind a former imperial officer, when he operates to a troubled man's mind?
Pershing is Dolphins coach Mike McDaniel in real life. :joy:
I loved this episode, and it’s disturbingly good since it explodes more holes into The New Republic ethos. It’s more like Andor, and I love Andor. I needed a break from Spaghetti Western Mando-lore.
Backdoor pilot? But for what? Seriously, when they do this it feels like the writers are suffering from ADHD.
huh? who is this guy?
what happen to those fx ... lowcost
not great, not terrible. But it was fun to see Coruscant again
This is unexpectedly one of the best episodes I've seen in this show, it had a dark twist and told us a kind of spin-off story but if you think about it, it's very close to the tone of Andor, and that's what it made it a successful show, because it was real, human, the real consequences and not all happy and shiny, I loved that, and as other person commented the fact that Bo-Katan ended up redeemed too is the "chef kiss" of this episode! I wasn't expecting anything of this 3rd episode and I was surprised!
while I understand the premise, this episode was too dark to moisture or anything. it would have been all audio, all the same.
Not at all a bad episode but I felt a bit robbed after the exciting opening and annoyed that they suddenly shoehorned in this subplot that I guess will be explored further in the coming episodes. The Coruscant excursion was an interesting storyline but at the same time both stretched out too long and left me completely unsatisfied. This episode also reminded me too much of the horrible Andor with this abandoning of the main character and that series insanely weird story jumps.
So ... I have thoughts. All the mondo scenes were incredible. Bo-Katan ending up as part of the covert. Chef's kiss! I'm excited to see where this goes. BUT ... the 25 minute sidetrack to Coruscant? While its great to see how the new Republic is operating on Coruscant the Storyline with Dr. Penn was just stiff. I am sure it will have meaning later but right now it felt very disconnected from everything else. And it ends with Dr. Penn being mind-wiped? Where does that lead? Was he being silenced? Maybe she realized Dr. Penn recognized her and needed to silence him otherwise he could give her infiltration away? I hope that little jaunt pays of storewise. Maybe the Empire is about to make another push?
Just make a series „tales from the new republic“ where there’s lots of space for stories like the doctors. But leave them out of Mando and stay to the core.
The first and last few minutes were great. The middle was also good but doesn’t belong in this series.
It’s illogical that there were no guards at the shipyard
This is simply a transition episode. It lacks action but I hope it will be the basis of a great story.
Two series for the price of one!
THIS IS NOT ANDOR! Love the beginning and ending even though there a lot of things that feel rushed.
Look. I get it. Everyone's here for some Mandalorians. And the action in the beginning was great. I must admit that.
But I admire the boldness of show runners to pivot this episode in a totally different direction. So they told this scientist story. (Who is - I'm sure about this - actually the lovechild of Leon the Professional and Daredevil!) It was quiet. Very intimate. It was a lot of talk. And involved not much action. I enjoyed it very much though. The stage design and costumes are great. And the idea of this amnesty program is actually quite interesting. Empires don't just vanish. I didn't expect anything like this in this show. This part is not truly great. Not yet I might add. But here's a lot of potential to tell more than just a space western.
Here's a question for you experts out there: are these awesome drawings they show in the credits real? Were they actually used during the production process? Or is that just "fan art"?
This season is off to a really good start in my book. The opening sequence was some of the best starship action I've seen out of Star Wars, it was shot really well with plenty of exciting moments. From there we take things in a very different direction and this episode felt similar to what we got out of Andor. We got a more grounded take into the lives of more normal characters as they live in this post-empire world, and it was interesting to see how those who previously served under the empire are now living under the new republic. This episode strayed away from our main characters and that was a bit disappointing and created a weird imbalance, but I enjoyed the little story we got and am interested to see if it plays into the larger narrative this season. And we get a nice moment for Mando at the end as he is finally redeemed, as well as an interesting moment for Bo-Katan and I'm curious what she's going to do from here. I really don't have any idea where this season is going, and so far that actually intrigues me as I'm pretty excited to see what happens next. Also, Grogu definitely babbled "this is the way." Very cute, and I wonder how far they're going to take things as far as him starting to talk.
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Both beginning and ending of this episode were lit, the middle part (even if interesting) was way too slow.