Some interesting pieces coming together. No tree house... Mrs Dudley asking what room the game room was. So many little details we took for granted coz the kids experiences were actually unreliable narration by the sounds of things.
Another strong monologue too, this time from Theo. This show is superb.
OMG the jump scares! They're getting me so hard!
Oh my, the scene in the car:
I don't know why, but "There was no tree house" made me shiver more, than all the jump-scares.
Love, that the current finally reached the house.
Damn! That jump scare in the car sequence with Theo and Shirley got me icecold
i have whiplash i went from horrified and on the verge of cardiac arrest to utterly heartbroken within 60 seconds
[7.5/10] It would be too much to call this one a format bender, but I appreciate that this episode breaks from the usual structure of this show thus far, and instead gives us a pair of conversations: Hugh and Steven on the one hand, and Shirley and Theo on the other. Both conversations get at uncomfortable truths and confessions, and while this is, by necessity, kind of a talky episode, for the most part it works.
(Incidentally, I know what witness marks are thanks to the fantastic Serial podcast, which took some of the stuffing out of Hugh’s metaphor for me, but hey, not the show’s fault!)
The closest we get to the “here are some informative flashbacks” routine the show usually does has us circling back to Steven’s childhood. It’s mostly to show us the idea of him seeing signs of mental illness (or, depending on you want to interpret the show, legitimate haunting) but not recognizing them or knowing how to fully interpret them because he was a child. The scariest scene in this episode, and maybe in the show, is him restoring that vanity for his mom (replete with witness marks on the bottom) and her smashing the mirror out of nowhere. It’s the kind of real, frightening moment that rings true in a fashion that the other, more traditional attempts to spook the audience (like the jump scare in the care with Shirley and Theo) can’t quite hit.
I also liked the premise of the episode, where Luke is off to go burn down the Hill House and maybe end all this misery, leaving two pairs of the remaining Crains to chase after him and hash things out for themselves. It’s simple, but it’s an immediate crisis that provides a structure and motivation within the episode that works.
We don’t really learn much about Steven from those flashbacks. They’re more to do with the animating idea that there were signs he wasn’t privy to. But we do learn that, unbeknownst to us, he’s a complete and total douchebag! I try not to spend too much time standing in judgment of people, especially fictional characters, but Steven never telling his wife about his vasectomy, to the point that they tried to have kids for three damn years, is straight up monstrous and cruel. No wonder she kicked him out. I’m sympathetic to the idea that he was worried about his family’s mental illness and found that hard to talk about, but good lord, letting his wife go through all of that in search of false hope is just horrifying, to the point that it feels contrived and unbelievable as something a real human being to do. It ultimately feels like more of a fault for the show than for the character since it feels beyond belief that a person would really do that.
This is also a monologue heavy episode (aren’t they all?) but a good one. Hugh’s speech to his son about Olivia being a kite and him being a string is a beautiful metaphor. I don’t know if Hugh gets a redemption here (especially with the details of what happened to Olivia that Steven describes), but more and more the show seems to be suggesting that there’s more going on with Hugh than we know, that he’s someone worthy of empathy who loved his wife and wanted to protect his kids, even if that’s all a setup to pull the rug out from under us later.
On the haunting front, I at least like that we’re doing a bit of mythos here. Sure, it’s convenient that the same member of the Hill family that Steven remembered hearing about is the one who sneaks up behind Luke in the ending, but still. I like the idea that Hugh knows more than he’s saying and that the house will try to defend itself from Luke’s attacks, and that Steven is in the most danger given what he wrote about it.
Last but not least, I both liked and felt frustrated with Theo’s monologue. On the one hand, I like some of the imagery a lot -- the sense that Theo was completely dumb and surrounded by darkness and emptiness after touching Nell. It provides a plausible and psychologically rending account of what happened between Theo and Kevin. That whole thing felt like a misunderstanding from the beginning, and again, it’s a little convenient that Shirley is so angry and dug-in that she doesn't want to hear anything about it until it can spill out an appropriately dramatic moment But she and Theo have a lived-in sisterly dynamic that comes across on the screen, so as hokey and overwrought as that monologue becomes at times, you buy the two of them having a breakthrough after all of this because of that dynamic and how it’s been developed.
Overall, this one is a bit different from prior episodes, but I like the setup, with recriminations and confessions and corrections coming between father and son and big sister to little sister. There’s a lot that could be written about the “witness marks” metaphor, but suffice it to say, it’s interesting to see these people taking stock of their scars and using this moment to piece them all together to determine what really happened.
O. M. G !!!! Who was that at the end?? Why, Luke?? Why?? Now everybody is going to the house.
So now I get it why all of the siblings hate Steve's book.
SHIT!! these episodes keeps getting better and better.
THAT jumpscare always gets me
Damn, this is Halloween ? Did they actually bury Nell on Halloween ?
This is partly a Steve centric episode, at least in the past. We did not see him much in the first one, so it's fair to see a little of his past. He clearly has his secret room too. And after the conversation with his father in the car, I realize that Luke's was the tree house. So different from what you'd consider an inside room, so I hadn't thought about it.
In the present we follow two duos. Hugh and Steve on one hand. Shirl and Theo on the other.
The way Hugh is capable of analysing Steve's book and realize what Steve really saw that he thought was normal is very cool. Still trying to do a father's job as he attempt to crash course Steve on the supernatural he's been seeing without understanding it, because otherwise he'll be in even more danger there.
Also Steve: what an asshole. Not telling his wife for years that he had a vasectomy while they were trying to have a child ? No wonder she kicked him out !
Shared haunting experiences again, this time for Theo and Shirl. The knocking bit was very good, specially as a shared traumatic experience at a time they're at odds. But the car one was golden. And yes, it was a jump scare, which is normally the cheapest tool in horror arsenal, but it was a good jump scare which is pretty rare. Nell's screaming dead face, appearing there out of nowhere, probably not to scare them but annoyed that her sisters are shouting at each other, brief, sudden, unexpected, unannounced, perfect. The whole Theo incident was unneeded extra drama though, it takes too long, and mostly how the fuck are they not talking about what they just saw instead ?? They don't even mention it ! That's crazy.
Motherfucker, my laptop almost fell on the ground off my lap from that goddamn surprise in the car, it is not much scary, but it was indeed out of its fkn time! We all focused on the conversation, and bam, here we go XD
On the other hand
You fight with love
You are on the same team, even in the middle of a fight
During the fight, you are forgiven
There's no fear. There's no danger.
You're safe.
Than was one of the favorite words I marked ever, about relationships and love <3
@ the jumpscare: even Nellie has had enough of Shirley’s shit from beyond the grave.
Notice how most scares come out of the family arguing/fighting with each other and missing the main “focal point” of the convo. So relatable irl.
They finally listen to each other.
At this point, I have to wonder if they're all gonna die and leave Shirley's kids to prove if Hugh is right and if they'll be haunted as well. Although that would kinda prove Steve right too. At the moment, Steve is still a jerk. He could have tried a donor since he was so certain it's a genetic defect rather than anything supernatural, but if it's a curse, even children that aren't biologically his could be targeted, so he'd be wrong but eventually right...
Good one with the clock repairman as well. He did stand out to me but since the scene went forward, I didn't think anything more of it. Nice seeing a ghost in plain sight like that.
Has to be one of netflixes best shows to date.
Second time around and Theo's monologue still hits hard. Kate Siegel deserves all the awards for that scene.
8/10
Great episode
and Theo's performance
was spectacular,
someone give this
woman an Emmy already,
how can you not be
moved by that.
Steve is still a Douchebag
he just won't pack in
being a Dick with his Dad
and Steve believing he has
all the answers to everything
and the fact he believes
he's so right about everything
annoys me to fcuk.
Steve with his oh it's
all untreated Mental illness
really pisses me off,
I hope the house gets him
me and right before that
moment he's about to be
the houses bitch he realises
shit I was wrong......
"Nightmares are Real".
And now onto
The Penultimate episode
34:54 min. Fuck you. I shit my pants.
The conversion between father and son in a car about why he dont want children. That there is a sickness in his gens and he don
t want that in them. This opens something inside me. I always was scared to have children and now I can understand better why. My father is not the best parent in the world and I do not fuck up like him at growing my children. This fear creating a lot of difficulties in a relationship.
Holy f*ck, that jump scare really got me...
This episode was absolutely superb!
Luke, had the exact thought that crossed my mind from a few episodes back, but apparently that doesn't work. I don't know what I'd do after that point.
Solid performances all around once again. A better mix of drama and scary/woo-woo stuff, but still too much of the former. And honestly, Steve made the right call on the medical front all those years ago. Because this family ain't right.
Shout by kinkyVIP EP 6BlockedParent2018-10-21T17:17:01Z
I truly dislike jump scares, not because they scare the shit out of me (they do!), but because they're a cop-out, a lazy option overused in today's horror. But - holy shit! - that scene with the sisters arguing with each other in the car... THAT'S how you do a jump scare! Also, nice way to stop a fight. Then, Theo's monologue right after was emotionally intense, I could feel her despair creeping inside me. This show can be slow and boring, at times, but the acting is consistently well above average.