Let's give equality by choosing between winning and death. Lol
Huh!
So the games have been going on forever. Or at least, 20 years. That's insane! With hundreds of people missing, someone would have to have noticed? ... Well. It's fiction. Still, doesn't entirely hold up.
My guess is/was that his brother whom he is so feverish looking for isn't actually a player (anymore), but in fact the leader. The leader has to be some character we "sort of" know, or at least that's what I'm expecting – instead of an entirely new character. We know little to nothing about the precious brother, but we know of the leader that he's all about equality and "giving people a chance". Putting all common ethics and morals aside. That'd be quite a twist, if that were him.
The other team got "nailed to the cross" so we could win.
I'm an atheist, but I think my heavy duty christian parents would say that that is blasphemy.
Also, hell yeah woman! I love when there is someone pointing out who ACTUALLY saved a life. If your kid dies its the doctors fault, if it lives god gets thanks for sending the atheist doctor to save it. yuck
Did I miss the fake guard ejecting shells? Kind of weird that the leader found one considering that the fake guard is using a revolver (where the shells don't get ejected to the side...)
Didn't get how the cop's brother wasn't in the list of players for this year but had won in 2015?? What does that mean? Is he one of the organisers now?
[7.4/10] This wasn’t my favorite episode, but it’s still a pretty good one. The main focus was on Hwang and his investigation, and that’s just not the most compelling part of the show to me. The whole thing works on a heightened reality, but the Hwang material continues to test the limits of my willing suspension of disbelief.
I’m not one to nitpick, but it seems really implausible that Hwang would be able to bluff his way through the organ harvesting crew for as long as he did, despite the masks and voice changers. That it passed muster for longer than five minutes seems pretty suspect. Hell, the fact that the organ harvesters are able to get away with it as long as they do seems to stretch the logic of the show. I know they have an ally in the surveillance room, but it’s still a stretch that they were able to pull off something so elaborate under the noses of such a tight operation. The statement from the Frontman at the end of the episode suggests maybe he knew about it and turned a blind eye to it because he didn’t think it affected the game, but still. The tension of Hwang’s double agent routine doesn’t work as well when the whole thing plays like a stretch.
The only thing that’s really worth it for me is that we get a decent amount of lore about the deal. We find out that the powers that be have been running this operation in some form since the 1990s. There is a special escape hatch tunnel for unnamed “VIPs” with Chekov’s bombs strapped to them in case things go sideways. The brother that Hwang is looking for not only was a part of the game, but even won back in 2015, and the fact that someone speaks his name at the end of the episode suggests he’s still a part of it, albeit probably on the side of the handlers. Learning the scope of this thing, and setting up the contours and history of the game in some way adds more dimension to it, even if the trouble with the organ harvesters doesn’t light my fire.
Once again, the theme here isn't hard to discern. The concept of fairness plays out in multiple ways. The Doctor trading his surgical services for advanced knowledge of the games goes awry when the harvesters don’t have the info they promised him, making the exchange unfair. Discussions over who will keep watch overnight in the bunkhouse, or Ali trying to pay Sang-woo back for saving their lives speaks to a sort of moral tally everyone keeps. The new girl from the tug-of-war match chastises a religious man thanking God for their victory, implicitly calling B.S. on whether a just deity would allow such a thing to happen and who’s responsible for these fates.
Most interestingly, though, is the Frontman executing Soldier Number 28, ostensibly not for harvesting organs from dead (or nearly dead, shudder) competitors, but for disrupting the competitive balance of the game. He claims that the game is meant to be a contrast to the outside world, where inequality reigns, instead providing a space where everyone has an equal chance to succeed and survive. Who knows if he means it, or if it’s a convenient self-justification, but it’s interesting that there are at least some professed philosophical underpinnings to the game, and it’s not purely for idle sport or entertainment for such VIPs in or out of the game.
The details we get about the main characters are solid. I appreciate the psychological warfare that Gi-hun pulls off on Deuk-su, distracting him from any attempt to attack their group by suggesting his own men might go after him to eliminate a strong challenger, especially in the pit of vipers he’s crafted. It’s also smart of Gi-Hun’s allies to set up a barricade and a watch system, continuing to show the benefits of their alliance and the mutual support it provides.
I’m particularly fascinated by Gi-hun’s PTSD flashback, to the time he participated in a general strike and had to witness his fellow watchman die in a strike-breaking raid. Thus far, Gi-hun has seemed like a slacker and libertine whose wounds are largely, if not entirely, self-inflicted. But his story, of losing a steady job he couldn't afford to go without, because it was easier to blame the employees than the people at the top making wrong calls, is a sympathetic one, especially in the face of brutal tactics used to suppress he and his fellow workers standing up for their interests.
I still don’t fully trust Number 1, even as he provides some comfort to Gi-hun, and has an episode that suggests he really is affected by some condition, even if there’s more to his story than we know. I also appreciate that, whatever Sae-byeok’s lone wolf qualities, she gives up her water to help cool Number 1’s fever, showing that there’s still some kindness and generosity in her.
Otherwise, this is a slower, more languid episode of the show than the others we’ve had so far, despite starting with the conclusion to the tug-of-war match, That’s not a bad thing, necessarily. It’s good to get some character development and a bit of downtime between major set pieces. And the prospect of Hwang getting made, and skulking around the Frontman’s penthouse is a decent tease. But in general, this one spends more time on the less-than-credible extracurricular activities of the organ harvesters than can sustain my interest, and isn’t as compelling an hour as the the first half of the show offered.
Basically no game, just the short ending of the rope pulling. And it feels very weird that apart from a few words in the elevator, nobody really dwells on the fact that this time they actually killed people. In the previous games people died because they lost. Here they died not only because the other team won, but they physically pulled them to their death. Though maybe after people killing each other during the night they're already over that ?
This is mainly a cop episode, and for once the part outside of game is a bit interesting.
I'm more and more intrigued by how these guys had their side organ gig. It's obviously not sanctioned by the higher authorities, and yet they have the facility and even the built in mechanism to retrieve the coffins. Why would that even exist ? Unless they managed to also install that, and linked it to an underground room, without anyone's knowledge ??
The cop's brother thing makes even less sense than before. If he didn't come back with the others, that obviously meant he was killed. Though they said they would send the money to the deceased, and never did. Since this was so obvious and never pointed out, we can assume it's not the case. But now that we've seen that the brother was part of another game session, years ago, it makes absolutely zero sense that he disappeared only now, he must have already disappeared years ago, and probably many times again since. Why would this time be so special that the cop would take these risks to look for him.
Also, if he actually won, he should have been very rich, or at the very least have paid back a huge chunk of debt, this should have been very suspicious at the time.
Anyway, we can assume that he is still involved in the game, and since he can't be a player, he must be in the organization. Would make little sense if he was just a grunt, so could be the game master ? Or since the show has run in pretty much every clichés, they could also bring back previous winners to fight against in the last game.
Alternatively there's finally a mention of VIPs. Again, seeing nothing is really original, seems reasonable to assume that the whole thing is just a gigantic entertainment for very wealthy people to bet on. In that case the brother could also be one, spending the money won in his session betting on the next ones.
And seriously, with all the high tech deployed in games, and in the control room, no electronic archives ? Just binders in a old damp cave ? Seriously guys ?
This also shows that, pretty expectedly, there can be only one winner per session.
Poor old man 001, should have just let him be, why drag him into this mess! What is he gonna do with the money anyway?!!
Why is this such a hype.
It isn’t that good !
So you're saying they're not all going to be fun feel good games like so far?
If we say some prayers, do we all get to go to heaven? I should really pray too if that's how easy it is. Our God who art in Heaven, we worked as a team to send people to your side. And we sent a bunch of them today. And please help us with a whole lot more to be with you.
Shout by kinkyVIP EP 6BlockedParentSpoilers2021-10-05T17:52:49Z
Ah, yes, whenever I go wake a partner up, I always aim for the neck.