amazing just like any other Marvel productions. they're on a winning streak
probably the worst show marvel has ever made 1/10
A breath of fresh air. Iman and Matt are great and extremely charming. I am however fed up with the disapproving parent trope in every movie/tv-show.
“MS MARVEL 1”: A COMMENTARY
:white_check_mark:83% :thumbsup:10 :thumbsdown:2 = Great!
The opening episode of Marvel Studios' new Ms. Marvel series takes its sweet time to introduce us to the latest addition of the MCU's ever growing character roster and the world around her, and it does so admirably. I'm sure a lot of Muslim teenagers will find things to connect with here, and it's certainly tapping into enteral teenage troubles as well.
Kamala Khan is established here as a young, nerdy, bumbling Muslim girl, who is a Captain Marvel super fan. This is very close to how we know her from the comics, and the episode nails her relationships with her buddies Bruno and Nakia as well as her over-protective (but loving and kind) parents. Iman Vellani is captivating from the very start and feel like a natural fit to play the title character.
This episode is presented in a quirky and youthful visual style, closer to MCU's Spider-Man films than anything else we've seen, and clearly aimed towards younger fans - but that's not a bad thing. It's also the sort of tongue-in-cheek lighthearted fun that most Ms. Marvel comics are, and we can never have too much of that!
The superhero side of Kamala is also introduced, but more as an afterthought than something the episode truly builds up to and I'm not sure yet whether I enjoy her re-told origin story and the re-interpreted superpowers. Her weird glossy powers also look somewhat iffy, as the CGI isn’t quite up to the usual standards. There seems to be some kind of a stretch aspect to her powers though, which is nice.
Stay for the end-credits scene!
I really loved the direction and use of animation in this episode. Just when special effects and live action integration has become so seamless, something different can still have such a great impact. Great visuals and a really fun story-line.
Regarding the show of teenage rebellion, as a kid sometimes you have to go for it. Memories are irreplaceable, and the experiences that make up those memories are important. I'm not condoning rebellion, however, a big problem that most of us encounter at one point or another is the difficulties that we have communicating - kids with parents, parents with kids, and just how we become fearful of being misunderstood, saying the wrong thing, getting the answer we don't want to hear, and other issues that cause us to either hold back on what we say, or blow things out of proportion which of course only makes bigger issues that complicate the situation even more. Looking back, my parents wouldn't allow me to see what would have been my first concert, and I'll never have those memories, only the memory of my parents forbidding me to go. Fortunately, another concert that was a special occasion, filming for a movie, which I was able to attend was big enough to give me the memory of an amazing experience. As I gripe about my parents and their decision, having that memory is really a bummer because of our inability to properly communicate and come up with a solution that could have worked out for everyone. If I were to do it again today, I would have found a way to purchase two tickets for that first concert and invited a parent to accompany me. From a kid's point of view, that would have kind of been a drag going with my parent, but having that memory of the show and attending it with my parent would have been priceless. Just consider, we all have problems communicating at times, but rather than feeling like it us against them, there is usually some common ground that can be found if we all realize that the best situation is the one where everybody wins - better both satisfied than one or both feeling betrayed. "...there's too many people making too many problems, and not much love to go 'round. Can't you see this is a land of confusion?" - but we can change that.
Best thing Disney has done in a while, especially the animations in this episode and Kamala is an awesome fangirl.
I had literally zero expectations about this show. But as a guy who hated wv as hell I've liked it. I hope it can keep up the tempo it has now.
This was a pretty great start to Ms Marvel. iman Vellani is great as Kamala Khan.
Surprisingly culturally accurate with the whole Pakistani household and auntie gossiping and what not. I'm just glad this isn't marvel studios trying to be pushy with Islam and bring in Islamic fans. It's great and nothing seems forced (for the first ep at least).
Wow. Artistically this series is so unique. Kamala and her friend texting and the signs and street art adapting their conversations is so trippy and amazing. This series has a really interesting directing and I can’t wait for more!
I haven’t been a fan of anything Marvel’s done since Wandavision, but this was truly an excellent pilot. Pretty sure the visuals and editing are going to be a big talking point of this show, as it’s really well done and inventive. It’s not just the use of animation and colour, but the camerawork is actually exciting and fun without ever looking tacky or cheap. Great characters and acting as well, it’s all surprisingly fun. Maybe I liked it so much because it was light on action and story, which happen to be the two aspects where the MCU has been faltering lately. And yes, the brief action scene that’s in here might be a little too slapstick, but still. Great start.
The direction of this show is so good. It really pulls you into Kamala's perspective with the way the environment is presented as if it is an extension of the character and can we talk about her theory on thor being a gamer, cause it's pretty accurate.
Might be the most I've enjoyed an MCU pilot since WandaVision (now let's hope it ends stronger than that), because of the similarity in structuring itself more like a proper series rather than one big chunk of superhero lore (as much as a few of the studio's series pull the latter off), so you don't feel like the series is just building to the superhero stuff. Vibrant characterization, world, and especially visuals, the last which feel so refreshingly animated and stylized it at times almost comes off like a live-action comic. Iman Vellani makes for an instantly appealing leading star.
One of the surprisingly better MCU Disney+ first episodes. Not everything worked, especially in the last 10 minutes but everything was fun to watch. And that's what it was. It was enjoyable not having world ending stakes.
Iman Vellani is surprisingly (2nd time I've used that word) fantastic in the Kamala Khan role. The much talked about power change didn't bother me but I don't think it was portrayed well in the first episode. I'm hoping that's more to do with the decision to show as little as possible in the first episode.
Not sure where this is going but I liked it so far.
the animation when they were texting was so cool
Honestly alot better than I was expecting
I loved Kamala and her friend. <3
Just finished it and I already want to watch it again. So much to love about it and I genuinely think the changes suit the MCU while still keeping the essence of what makes the comics version so good. It's already shaping up to be my favourite of the Disney+ shows, can't wait for more.
haven't seen an MCU show this dynamic! can't believe this is iman's first role, she is so natural. i love the family dynamic and the south asian representation in this. fantastic all around. also, a ryan penagos cameo!
Wow! I was completely blown away by this. I think it was probably the best first episode of any show on Disney+! Super stylish and immediately lovable and relatable characters from top to bottom. I adored every moment where they reflected her fantasizing... depicted perfectly. I have never read the comic to entirely say it’s a perfect adaptation, but as an adaptation of a comic in general, it seems like you’d be hard pressed to better reflect the sensibility!
Very cool visuals, characters seem engaging over time ; however, i just wasn't sucked in based off the pilot. I will return for more
This was quite good. My expectations were pretty low considering all the Marvel shows after WandaVision were nothing to write home about. But this first episode was really well done. I liked the look and the music. Also the main actress comes across as very authentic. It‘ll be interesting to see what Marvel is going to do with this character.
I LOVED this, Im a sucker for high school heroes and the visuals and creative effects are so good, my only gripe is the power change from the comics but i dont think that will stop me from enjoying the show
Has style, isn’t soulless and genuinely great to look at. I’m in
[7.5/10] A fun introduction to the show and its title character. Some fo the details here are a little generic -- the kid who doesn’t fit in at school and wants to rebel against her strict parents. But some of it’s very distinctive, both the style of the presentation and the particular Pakistani-American flair to everything. It’s hard not to think of Turning Red, which trafficks in similar “torn between two worlds and wants”/maternal conflict themes exacerbated by superpowers. But Ms. Marvel puts its own spin on that type of story, which adds to the universality of the feelings involved, even if the specific details are different from person to person.
What makes Ms. Marvel stand out in the early going are its well-formed characters and unique style. While the first episode deploys osme archetype,s you get a good sense for the Khan family right out of the gate, with a guilt-tripping mom, jovial but open-hearted dad, favored but kind brother, and a community comes with a rich heritage but also certain cultural expectations. Best friend Bruno is a nice tech whiz and confidante.
Kamala herself feels three-dimensional from the jump. Again, some of the conflicts here are stock. The “I’m not normal” bit in particular is a little tiresome. But the way she wants to follow her daydreaming spirit, which cuts her against the parents who don’t quite understand, makes her come alive. The moment when her parents try to meet her halfway with a Pakistani-inspired Hulk costume and paternal chaperone, which only leaves everyone involved disappointed and hurt. And the closing exchange with her mom over whether Kamala wants to be the good girl they raised or a cosmic rebel lays things on a little thick, but the delivery comes with appropriate sting. There’s shading to Kamala’s wants and worries, from cosplays and youtube channels, to inside jokes and anxieties with her best friend, to imaginative plans on how to pull off a surreptitious trip to Avengercon.
Therein lies the real fun of the show. It very much has its own aesthetic and approach. The diegetic text messages, imaginative sequence of how Kamala and Bruno will make it to the Khan, and graffiti bringing their brainstorms to life in real time all help add flavor to the presentation. A collection of neat cuts and camera angles help give the show some energy. The needle drops are a little too frequent, but all good. And the back-and-forth between Kamala, her friend, and her family, have a heightened by organic tone to them that makes the conversations not sound like generic movie dialogue.
Overall, at this stage, I’m more interested in the story of Kamala wanting to do her own thing and be her own person, while not wanting to hurt her parents, than I am about her Carol Danvers-cribbing aspirations. But this does set the show off on the right foot.
Notes
Instructor: "How about you start by turning the car on?"
Aamir Khan: "Don't mess up those errands."
Kamala: "Knock, please."
Aamir: "I brought you some chai."
Review
Although the story loses its focus near the end, Ms Marvel is the MCU's most stylistic thing ever. The VFX, the score, the editing, it's all breathing with life and creativity. The story too centres on a teenager and she feels way more like one than Tom Holland's Peter Parker.
Overall, intrigued. Hope things get interesting!
6/10
maybe fun for some 14 y/o's looking for some wokeness in a Marvel series
headcanon: kamala has adhd, there's no way that fool is neurotypical
Nothing special, probably the weakest marvel show pilot so far. Hope it gets better later.
1/10
This was bad and I mean really really bad, this was the weakest pilot of any Marvel show ever and it's definitely the worst Marvel show ever ever made.
This made Moon Knight look like a god damn Masterpiece.
I did not care for anyone their for nobody to root for are get invested in.
I absolutely hated the mother, every scene she stressed me out and every scene she was in she just brought a already terrible show down. I really can not stand that mother, but most of all this show is just shit and very very boring, I just kept nodding off from 5 minutes in till 5 minutes from the end.
The girl who plays
Ms Marvel is the first actress Disney has taken on for their D+ shows who has never acted before, she had no previous experience and to me it showed. I don't care for the story are the characters are this show. It's silly, it's for kids, it's definitely amateur and I know it's not for me. This show has to be a joke....right because you look at Adult, fun engaging Masterpieces
Like The Falcon and The Winter Soldier, WandaVision and the Phenomenal Hawkeye and you think what the actual fcuk is this childish shit.
No...just...No
And right now I have no idea how the Hella I am going to grind my way through another 5 painful episodes.
I much preferred
Ms Marvel in my Avengers game now she is pretty cool in that and fun and engaging in this absolutely not.
I would rather subject myself to a prostate examination than grind....grind these next 5 episodes out.
Not impressed,
Not impressed at all.
This series doesn't want me here and believe me the feeling is mutual.
I’m late to the party, but I’ve seen a lot of hate when the first episode first aired (which was one of the reasons I’m watching it almost 2 years later), and I have to say, I totally disagree with a lot of what was said online about it. It was great, it was refreshing, and the main actress, Iman Vellani, is a great cast as Ms. Marvel. Yes, the parents who are disagreeing is an overdone trope, yes there are some rough edges, but overall it was a fun first episode, and a great introduction to the character (even though her powers differ from the comics). 7.5/10:thumbsup:
The show didn't get good reviews but I actually liked it, the main character is quite likeable and I really rooted for her to be able to go to the convention. I think the main theme of the episode was what it means to be a fan, a part of a fandom you are crazy about, how it feels to be misunderstood by others who are not fans of anything and labelled as childish or immature. I'm not in Marvel fandom but I've been through all this. We fans gotta stick together.
Cinematography was quite good actually
I love how we’re finally seeing a non-Christian, non-Caucasian family in the focus, normalising what on the big screen still is seen as some sort of otherness.
Toxic parenting exists in every culture I guess :upside_down: What kind of tactics is her mother even using? I’d almost say victim blaming, but that’s not entirely right. She does blame her and minimise her at every turn though, it hurts to see. Darth Vader indeed.
Damn that scene with her parents and the costumes hit me right in the feels, I'm almost 30 now so but I still remember how embarrassed by my parents I felt when I was a teenager–and I still feel bad for saying some pretty hurtful things to them even though I love them so much. I did like how Bruno immediately recognised that someone with such an alliterative name as Kamala Khan obviously has to be(come) a superhero, I mean, that's better than Steven Strange, Bruce Banner, or even Peter Parker.
Hmm, looks like we have a new Tony Stark here.
Cosmic level of cringe, just unreal. Don't even try to watch it if you're not a 14 yo girl. Or maybe don't, even if you are. Extremely bad series, total disrespect to source material. Disney at its worst - ruining anything they touch.
Damn the mom was annoying as hell, always making the child feel like a disappointment. Must be so frustrating for the daughter or anyone in that kind of household
Good first start. Haven’t liked anything Marvel tvshow since Wandavision so high hopes for this one
i also adore the visuals and how unique they are. cool and refreshing first episode
kamala is adorable and relatable. blinding lights made me giddy:laughing::laughing::laughing:
Visually arresting. The story? There isn't really one. Dialogue? Same as every teen show ever. And going big on clumsy ethnic stereotypes is not a good look for "diversity" or "inclusion".
Worth watching just for the visual design but not much else.
Iman Vellani is Kamala Khan through and through. Artsy, loving, and fantastic.
Really enjoyable first episode, looking forward to seeing more.
This “teen coming of age” isn’t really my thing, and this seems to basically be a Marvel version of “Turning Red”. That said, I think it’s very well done and Iman is just adorable. The visuals and editing are fantastic and I think all the characters have been wonderfully done. I’ll keep watching.
Great pilot and lovely the art/direction style.
Seems like the MCU has shelved inhumans then? They've give her powers a different origin.
Loved the opening sequence.
P.s. There is a lil after credits scene too
Wow, is this really a good Marvel show?
Loved it! Incredible editing and perfect casting for Kamala! Very impressed, if all episodes are of this caliber it might become my favorite Disney+ series so far.
So far so great! I truly hope this takes off just like Spiderman. I'm a huge Marvel Comics fan and I'm typically excited by their new series. I'm especially pleased to see another brown superhero.
Good concept but all of the special effects seem to either take cover up the story which could be a lot better. It's as if they're taking the formula of the Tom Holland Spider-Man franchise and went wild with the cgi without putting as much work into a more unique storyline. Hoping it evens out in the next couple of episodes. Oh, deux ex machina on the bracelet.
this is GREAT!! YES MARVEL!
Is it normal that every time mom is on screen i felt like slapping her?
Knowing nothing about this character going in, I was impressed by how much of Pakistani culture they brought in. (Also, seeing Anjali Bhimani was a lovely surprise!) I am sure that it's very typical of a Pakistani mother to think a superhero costume is "skimpy" but the costume that Kamala wears isn't any tighter than the jeans and shirts that she wears as every day clothes, so I am a little confused by the use of the word "skimpy" and "tight" from her mother. I am excited to see where this show goes, and what her powers actually turn out to be in the end.
Least hyped mcu show, not expected to be good but it’d be cool if it was
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this one was so good omg! I love the Avengercon idea and the character of kamala, excited to watch future episodes!