So fucking painful to watch.
Almost done with it as I'm writing this, and I want to finish it, but shit, it's really hard.
And good. Very good.
i was very pleasantly surprised with this. i tend to be wary about book adaptations, but this is one of the rare exceptions where i'll say that, in my opinion, the adaptation has an edge over the book. yes, there are changes from the book, as with all book-to-film or book-to-tv adaptations, but i believe that, in this case, almost every change benefited the story. the characters are what really stand out in this. as i recall from the book, some of the characters felt a bit one dimensional to me, or were at least looked at in a more or less black/white light, mainly due to understandable time constraints within the novel. a thirteen episode series really lets them shine. the characters are more developed and viewable in a more morally grey light, which really makes you feel for (most) of them. and i personally feel these characters are what make "13 reasons why" stand out from the typical teen drama. netflix continues to be one of the (if not THE) best platforms for entertainment out there.
The book was very good... but damn the show was incredible. Thank you Netflix.
5 September 2019 - I really try to give a series a chance to prove itself, but I'm abandoning 13 REASONS WHY after S3 E4. It is scrapping the barrel of all things potentially hurtful, damaging and downright dangerous in teen living. The prescriptive warnings by the cast to seek help if you are in the situations depicted in their drama do not excuse the series reinjuring those in peril for the sake of further episodes/seasons. This series no longer has a cathartic benefit. I will no longer be watching it (despite a new bright light in the cast). As I prophetically wrote in 2017 - This series has sucked the life out of its premise. I leave the series with a rating of 5 (meh) out of 10. [Teenage Drama].
I've left the previous reviews here so you can see how it fell out of my favour.
3 April 2017 - I'm just three episodes deep into this Netfilx series and I'm enjoying the characters and the suspense. This is a good premise, the acting is strong, and I can't wait to find out what happened, as we see the story from the varying points of view. Looking good - so I'm giving it a preliminary 8 (great) out of 10.
8 April 2017 - I'm sorry to say that the series didn't live up to the premise. I think it was meant to be a cautionary tale, but the writing was uneven, the characters' emotional arches poorly drawn, and some episodes were just a downright mess. The acting was good because the casting was strong. Even though the scripts were disappointing the series will resonate with those who have been shamed, bullied, emotionally or physically abused. Unfortunately, these are now adolescent realities, so people will see their experiences reflected here. But the writers sewed these components together poorly, interrupting the build of suspense, artificially inflating the emotional environment which in turn compromised the trueness of the characters and leaving the audience disappointed, or in some cases, lost (I almost quit after the very poor episode - S1 E7) and a general degradation of the quality of the series). Although there were some 7 (good) episodes, there were also 6s (fair) and even 4 (poor), so I'm giving the whole series a 5.5 (failed potential) out of 10. I'd love to see these performers again, but the series has sucked the life out of it's premise.
First season was decent, second season was meh, third season is unwatchable.
Whatever your opinion of the show, one thing is clear. We need to take care of each other. While we may not be responsible for the actions of others, we are responsible for what we do, what we say, how we react to the pain others are feeling. For the record, I thought the show was shattering, truthful, painful. There are people who are going through feelings of loneliness now. Hannah Baker could be any one of us, somebody we know. So...
Don't be alone. There is hope. Love yourself and love each other.
This was a steamy pile of an out of control train wreck.
Poor and unintelligent writing, a pretty reckless approach to the subject material, and a whole character or utterly unlikeable and sympathetic characters.
Just avoid, no work the time.
I think that this show is very, very slow-paced and that it seems like Hannah, the main character (kinda), commited suicide as an act of revenge against the people that did something bad to her and that is not the best message that you should deliver through a suicide show.
I really enjoyed this. It was surprisingly good, yet painful to watch. I felt so bad for Clay, Hannah, her parents and other for other characters too. Everyone screwed up, including Hannah. No-one was innocent, but only one was actually "bad guy". 13 reasons why left me anxious and sad. I didn't like the last episode and ending too much because it felt like they had more story to tell and too little time. it felt rushed.
I would recommend this to anyone who is not too triggered about self harm or suicide. Teen or parent, if you have the guts to watch it, do it. You might learn something.
10/10, would get depressed again.
Honest, moving, heart-wrenching, and at times, incredibly difficult to watch-- 13 Reasons Why impacted me more than any other recently released show has. Maybe more than any other show ever has or ever will. It's not an easy watch, but I believe that everyone should give it a chance. Because it is the type of story that needs to be told.
If you are contemplating suicide, are depressed, or feeling alone, please reach out to someone.
hi yeah i just cried while watching every single episode because this shit actually happens to people every day, in various different ways and many people don't notice the signs. i encourage you all to give this show a shot. but, it contains many triggers so if you know you can't handle it, pick the book up instead or skip the scenes. do whatever makes you feel the most comfortable. the show has a very strong message, and tackles taboo issues. v v great.
I recommend watching the first 2 seasons. They both have their fair share of faults, but they’re entertaining and engaging despite some of the glaring issues.
Season 3, I do not recommend. Although it has its few good moments, overall it’s a drag and the writing is poor. It’s not even close to be as entertaining as the first 2 seasons.
As for season 4, I actively encourage you to just pretend it doesn’t exist. It’s honestly terrible. The characters all don’t act in ways that they normally would, and the writing is straight up atrocious. Fortunately it’s only 10 episodes instead of 13, but that doesn’t stop the season from being incredibly boring and feeling like a long drag, especially the final episode that is almost 2 hours long.
Rating the first 2 seasons, I’d say the show is good, and I’d give it a 6.5 or 7 out of 10 overall. But when you include season 3 and 4, the show suddenly becomes an overall 4 or 5 out of 10.
Season 1: 7/10 (Good)
Season 2: 6/10 (Fair)
Season 3: 5/10 (Meh)
Season 4: 3/10 (Bad)
Average season rating: 5.25/10
Overall rating: 5/10 (Meh)
Season 2 is so terrible, I stopped watching after episode 2. Seems very unstructured and not well thought out.
MY THOUGHTS ON 13 REASONS WHY:
-WARNING: Spoilers Below-
My God I will never like this show. It is literally a show trying to be as edgy as possible whilst masking it as being "woke" and giving exposure to real life issues - when in reality it just romanticises them and doesn't make give them good exposure at all.
There's a lot of problems with this show that I think by now a lot of people know about so I won't pay them much notice on this. A someone who suffers with bad mental health though I didn't find this show to be remotely accurate or it gave the correct exposure to mental health, I felt it was more damaging. On the other situations though I can't mention because I haven't experienced any of them, hopefully it was helpful to someone out there.
As a show itself I didn't enjoy it, I thought the pacing was boring, the direction the show took was miserable but I'll say the acting was somewhat good, just the script didn't give the actors justice.
As a whole I'm glad I watched this because I know what not to watch again. It was so bad I won't ever go near this again. If you're going to watch this, good luck.
Overall rating: 3/10
1st season was actually good despite what people say.
2nd season was a nonsense and completely unnecessary.
3rd season is just a torture. And lets not talk about the wosrt character of 2019 “Annie"...
Painful to watch. It falls short in between and picks up pace towards the finale.
I really don't get what all the hype is about...
3rd season is stupid i don't know why still people watch it.
So dramatic with lots of plot twists throughout the seasons and season 3 rocks too
Loved the new dramatic season where Ani comes in as the narrator great to have a new voice narrate the mysteries to Bryce Walkers killer as it begins to unravel. Overall the new season leaves you confused throughout not trusting anyone as everyone is a suspect and has a motive to kill Bryce and leaving you truly shocked by the outcome, which will hopefully leave the victims of rape by Bryce such as Jessica, Hannah (Who committed suicide at the end of the first season) and a few other rape victims some closure wherever they are now.
Fright rr r t t
This serie grabbed me and haven't let me go yet. 13 Reasons Why was very well made and the mystery in this serie is the reason why I kept watching, and watched the entire serie in 1 sitting (almost, I had to sleep). I wanted to know why Hannah killed herself, who was responsible and the event leading up to this tragic event. Every one of those questions was answered, but the "serie finale" left alot of new questions unanswered. Is this a way of telling that it never ends? Maybe a way so everyone can think their own ending and get the ending they want? What will Tyler be doing? Will Tyler be the reason for a new season? I personally think they shouldn't be doing a season 2, but Tyler already preparing of taking down the people that actually "failed" him instead of what Hannah did. After seeing the 13 episodes I see alot of people making mistakes. It was Hannah saying stuff while people just obeyed what she wanted, but what she really wanted was just someone to give her what she needed not wanted (this is also what Clay says in during one of the later episodes against Tony). I hope everyone will learn something from this serie and note that suicide may look like the answer so everyone is free of the burden, but it's not. People will notice the impact of a suicide and you will be missed. There are always people that care about you. Everything you do will have a consequence and that is what this serie shows off best.
I get that this show is hot at the moment and everyone is talking about it! And I do get that it highlights the issue of bullying in schools and all that! Yes, this does send a message to people to raise awareness and all and I think it is nice! However, I still can't see how is this getting high ratings, I could barely finish the episodes?
To each their own, I guess! right?
Or maybe I'm not liking it because I am not a teen anymore, as this is a teen drama? lol
I binge watched the season in two nights. The suspense, the acting, and the soundtrack are awesome. But in the end, it left me wandering if this is not a romanticize suicide, an apology to suicide revenge. She is able to see why, to go one by one making people feel directly responsible for her personal unique decision of taking her own life to the point one of the kids shoots himself in the head out of blame. And let's not talk about Clay, feeling absolutely responsible for it, suffering post traumatic syndrome, etc. I don't know, I enjoyed watching the show but the after taste is bittersweet. I don't know if I would recommend this show to a teenager, tbh.
Specially when it suggests that you are alone, no one will help you. She's going through deep shit and her family does not even notice, she won't try to reach them. The counselor will ignore her when reaching for help as well. And the only one who cares and asks if it's okay and worries about her is pushed away with not a single explanation. Hannah is mature enough to record 13 reasons why she is going to kill herself, but not mature enough to reach her family (!!) or to, after recording the cassettes, realize killing herself will leave permanent consequences.
This was, for me, the best show of the year so far. It is for Netflix this year what Stranger Things was for last year. A real surprise, far better than it looks. I watched the special, and I don't usually do that. I picked up the book and started reading it, and young adult fiction isn't a genre I usually look at. Hollywood hasn't cast it in a very nice light with things like Twilight; even less cringey films like Divergent and The Maze Runner give the YA genre a two-dimensional feel, a feel of shallowness that is easy to take in but doesn't really get inside your head much. Just a one-and-done kind of thing. And this isn't that. It's so much better. I went in thinking this was a show for middle and high school kids, and it really isn't. Especially after the 9th and 12th episodes. Not to mention the finale. Spoilers follow.
After watching — I finished it just 24 hours ago — I went back and forth on whether the suicide was justified or not. Actually for a while I thought they might pull a twist ending and reveal that she didn't actually go through with it, but made it look like she did to raise awareness. There was a program that ran in high schools in Northern California (where this takes place) where they had a guy dressed up like the Grim Reaper take the popular jocks out of school. They were put up in a resort while the rest of the school was told they died. And then they put on this play where they were killed by drunk driving. It sounds silly now, but it was serious then. And it happened at my school (Santa Rosa, Montgomery High, Class of 1998) and I was smart enough to see that it was fiction, but it still young enough for it to affect me. (Sure enough, never drank and drove. Actually don't drink anymore, so I can drive those who can't.) So I thought this series might be doing that, and that they could, and still be impactful. Spoiler: [spoiler]It's not, and the suicide is shown in the finale.[/spoiler]
As for justifications, that's harder. It's important to note here that nobody is perfect, including the adults. It's also important to note that nobody is purely good or evil. Even the one character everyone hates by the end ([spoiler]Bryce{/spoiler]), probably has some good in him. It's just outside the scope of this show to humanize him. We can guess. [spoiler]He was rich, and lived a life free of consequences. His parents were never around, and he was able to buy beer underage because he was a successful athlete and town hero. He literally stated that there was nothing wrong with raping girls. And he believed it because he had never been denied anything.[/spoiler] The big problem I have with the suicide is not that the events leading up to it did or didn't justify suicide. It's that she spent hours calmly laying out everything that was wrong, in a cool and methodical way, on those tapes, after making the decision, and yet she still did it. The planning of the tapes, the recording, setting up distribution, [spoiler]getting Tony to manage the backups and watching people,[/spoiler], I think she could have backed down. I think she was smart enough to by that point and could have gotten help. No tapes, no planning? Sure. Impulse decision. After all that, though? I don't really see it.
I'd also like to get into the school counselor, Mr Porter. School counselors are psychologists only in the same sense that security guards are police officers, i.e. they're not. You could say they're failed psychologists, and maybe some are, but they may not all be. He wasn't an exceptionally bad one. He might have even been above average. I think a big difference between school counselors and psychologists are that school counselors work for the school. They aren't truly advocates for the individuals they try to help. I think he needed to go the extra mile and coach her, and tell her that she needs to declare [spoiler]that she was raped, and that she said no, and that she tried to make him stop, even if she really didn't exactly. There was no deception on her part, or seduction, the guy had raped before, and in her presence no less, and she clearly did not want to have sex, and he knew it[/spoiler]. Yes, I think he should have coached her to embellish the truth a little for the greater good, for the sake of the next victim. Would it have been dishonest? I don't think so. No more spoilers.
But I'm getting off-track. Was it a good series? In no uncertain terms, yes it was. You should absolutely watch it, and then you absolutely should reach out to a niece or a nephew or the child of a family friend and let them know that you are there for them. It doesn't really help as much coming from parents, because parents are always judging. They kind of have to. Kids need an external resource they can count on. Someone they trust won't look down on them because they tried drugs or experimented with sex. Someone who won't add to their problems. Someone who generally makes them feel better when they're down. Even popular kids need it, but the nerds, the emo kids, the losers, those kids need it especially because they have such little support from their peers. And yes it's a bit rude to use those labels, but they exist, those kids exist, and we can't let them slip through the cracks. And one photo, one tweet, one rumor can make the most popular kid in school join those unfortunate groups. And then that kid can go on fooling their parents into thinking they're still on top of the social ladder, when inside they're dying, and we see that in the show with one of the characters.
I don't understand how this show has anything over a 4/10 rating. The acting is E-grade, it's cheesy, predictable, and it falls all over itself to be so beyond politically-correct in every aspect of the writing, production, and characters, that it's actually unrealistic. It's essentially just more Liberal propaganda designed to indoctrinate teens into the Liberal-Borg collective.
i.e. An Asian lesbian girl who was adopted by 2 white, gay men, to be "Dad & Dad". The series is boiling over with examples such as that.
The (far) underlying plot line, where a girl who committed suicide is leading the people who led her to her decision around with a carrot on a stick, and the PSA of not bullying people, and basically, talking bad about them, is the only thing rescuing the series.
Other than that, it's very slow to develop, and watches exactly like one of those cheesy after-school shows I used to watch as a kid. Think, Saved by the Bell, but about suicide, and Liberal indoctrination.
Ok, that's going to be a hard one to review.
Not because it's bad or just ok, not at all. As the little "10" in the top-left shows, I've give this show the best possible score.
No, the difficulty is in finding the right words that will explain WHY this tv show deserve such a number.
Before getting into it, I must say that I've watched every episodes, including the special where the actors and crew explain how and why they did this show (you should watch it). And I have not read the book.
As I want this review to be read by as much people as possible, I will not give any spoiler. So feel free to continue reading !
First, the actors, and mainly the three main characters for me, meaning Dylan Minnette (Clay), Katherine Langford (Hannah) and Kate Walsh (Olivia, Hannah's mom). Their work is just astonishing.
Second, the pacing. The show find the right balance between content and emptiness. Seems weird writing this. But we're dealing with a suicide, with depression, and the void it creates is one of the hardest thing to translate and the producers found a way to make you feel it at your core.
Which explains my third point : this show can be overwhelming. 13 episodes that you want to watch, but you also dread watching. There is, in each of those episodes and even more in some of them, a psychological pressure that can almost be too much to bear.
Fourth, thriller. 13 reasons why. 13 reasons you want to know. 13 reasons that you discover slowly, methodically, but 13 reasons that are sometimes implied a bit before they're revealed. It creates a thrill, that you're on the verge of understanding or at least zeroing on what really when on.
Fifth, the candor of this show. I have never watched a a show that committed to being true, to ring true to how teenagers think and feel and live. Some people will think that things aren't really like that, that they can't be and it's just so that there is a story. I was a teenager not so long ago, and I found so many truths in this show that it even felt a bit awkward. That this character could have been me. Or this one.
When TV produces so many "teenage" shows that just transform teens into adults, or teens into dumb versions of humans, watching this felt surreal. Like someone finally understood what it meant. What the struggles were and how to show them in their purest form.
Sixth and last one, Suicide. No one wants to talk about it. Most TV shows that depicts one, uses it as a plot excuse. A way to spice things up.
This one does not. This is the first thing you learn when watching. You start with the suicide and then you try to explain what when on in Hannah's life, in her head, that made her do this. And the show is clear, you can't explain suicide. You can't rationalize it. But you can try to understand the actions and thoughts that lead to it. To try and prevent that for ever happening again.
And the show is exceptional at that. Yes it depicts all the elements that lead to a suicide, but by showing them, you also teach people how to recognize signs that could point you to a person in distress. And it also shows that our actions have consequences, may those actions seems trivial at first. And to those that are in distress it also shows that there always are people caring for you. You may not see it, they may not show it, but there are there and you need to have the strength to at least reach out to them. The will help you. And if this seems too much for you, there are free hotlines that you can call at any time to at least talk. Because talking is healing.
I could continue and expand this list much more, but I'll stop there.
Just go watch it. Take a month of Netflix, you won't regret it.
I suffered to watch all episodes
i skipped the last ones and watched the final
the first 3 was ok, but when the kid started flashing things in his head that weren't real i just lost the absorption for this show
ok, the story is good, i think most of us all suffered that in school... the school is a very bad place when we have such bullies around
this show should be something to pass on schools and alert other kids and probably save lifes, but 11 hours of show i think is just too much and i rated this a 5 because this could have be done in less episodes
I was not here to watch a game of trones that never ends or a supernatural that have what.... 20 seasons? who knows... i dont, i stopped watching dean many months ago
After listening from TAPE 01 SIDE A to TAPE 13 SIDE A in just two nights this is what I think about "13 REASONS WHY":
First of all I have to recognize I didn't know about the book until I started watching "13 REASONS WHY", I haven't read it yet and maybe never will, probably because TV Series' production, photography, postproduction, cast, acting, story, rhythm and overall quality it is excellent and easily deserves a rating between a 9.7 and 10, I would have given it a 10, but I reserve that specific number for those rare gems that can't be measured by any standard because they simply don't fit in any scale, the rare masterpieces. Yes, those exactly, the ones you can only wonder how come they became and not why or how they did it because it's beyond your comprehension and you somehow now will transcend its time to become a classic. So unless they enable the 10 MasterPiece rating, it will have to suffice a 9 for the time being. Maybe I'll change my mind later or not, I don't know yet.
I think the TV adaptation (or the original novel) isn't really critique to the values of the [post]milenial average American teenager, the High School System or even bullying itself. But it's rather a quite more profound harsh critique to "The Post Milenial Egotistic and Hypocritical Society" where we all live, at least, in the western world. A Society whose values are taught to most kids by example, carrying them unconsciously to their teenage years and, many, to their adulthood where they're passed to the next generation.
It uses a group of High School Students, "13 REASONS WHY" as an analogy. All to make us, the adults, look in the mirror, rethink about our Individual Accountability and Responsibility for our acts or lack of thereof, how we intentionally misuse the concept "Society" (the Group) as an easy excuse, or way out from Individual Accountability and Responsibility out of pure egotism –selfishness (a Group with "N REASONS WHY").
As I said is more to this story that what meets the eye, the author is critiquing Society as a Whole from a moral standpoint to whoever was willing or able to see beyond the analogy he chose to depict it:
That is why after TAPE 13 SIDE A, there isn't anything meaningful left to tell. It's meaningless what they did or didn't do to anyone. You can imagine whatever you prefer, because no matter you come up the conclusion is always the same. These "13 REASONS WHY" where hers, what they did or didn't is history that can't be changed, so Hannah isn't coming back.
To all those thinking there will be a second season (or mini season), if Netflix continues respecting the original artist work and is wise enough to pull at the top, it won't ever be another.
Remember what Hannah explained on the TAPES about "The Butterfly Effect", our actions, given the adequate circumstances, could put in motion a chain of events whose consequences we would not be able to foresee, and later on she talks about that those tapes could create its own butterfly effect. What you see as the series avances and clearly in Episode 13 - TAPE 13 SIDE A is how that butterfly effect is working exacerbating what Hannah, not the victim, but the person corresponsable for the pain of others, had done actions when she was alive that have consequences and after she was gone with her detailed plan for the 13 TAPES.
Near the end in TAPE 13 SIDE A, even though he had been subtlety suggesting it throughout most of the 13 TAPES, the writer by focusing Hannah actions and probable consequences tries to clearly shows how nobody is perfect, not even Hannah. Perfection is at what we should aim but it's almost impossible, we are simply imperfect human not Gods, the only think that we are asked is to really try as hard as we can. The author puts on the table once again the need to understand and assimilate that we are responsible for our actions and be courageous enough to accept that with responsibility comes accountability and not just to ourselves but to others too.
P.S.
I agree with the message of the author, but I'm afraid I have an even darker view of humanity. I have been wondering what could probably be the worst course of action that anyone can take, but specifically humanity as a whole, I have reached the conclusion that it would be "to simply start doing nothing about almost everything if it's not involves fun".
I believe that it can not be considered an out of this world thought, specially in the light on whose hands it's the atomic football nowadays and the fact that no one did anything to prevent it when it was still possible.
I would bet hedonism together with egotism have already made to the top spots in the current list of The Seven Capital Sins. It all probably started with the fall of Berlin Wall, in the last decade of the XX century and have continued to gain momentum during the first the seventeen years of XXI century, a trend which doesn't seems its going to reverse or stop anytime soon.
But if the time comes, to which I'm look forward, to bury this "malade" which affects everyone: the old, the middle age, the young, etc…
I think its epitaph should read like this: "Here lies: I don't give a fuck about you or anything for that matter, and unless it involves alcohol, drugs, chicks, guys and/or loud music, I ain't going so don't bother me with any of your shit. We kindly ask you to respect his wishes and not bother him with any shit whatsoever unless his strict requirements are meet."
This show is too good. Clay and Hannah are my Jack and Rose of TV Series. They are the Romeo and Juliet. You will fall in live with them.
And btw this show is much more darker than you would think.
This series has changed the way I perceive things. You will see life in a different manner. TBH, I have been depressed for two days after watching this series. It has made me realize how fucking lonely my life is. Everytime, I meet my "friends", I just see how they behave with me and that has made me more depressed. So, those who dont have many friends must not watch this because you "WILL CRY". Atleast, I did.
Best Quote(Don't know why this quotes doesnt show up on the websites tbh):
Life is unpredictable..and control is just an illusion
I read the 2 critical reviews of this that I could find that seemed to have any teeth. I sought them out because as I was watching I started to develop a negative feeling. I didn't think to myself, "My god, this is so terrible. I feel so bad for this girl. I remember how rough high school was. I can't begin to put words to how real this is" as the prevailing narrative seems to suggest. I started to feel like a knee-jerking Republican who wanted to role his eyes and scream ,"Personal responsibility! Stop blaming everyone!" Then the intelligent liberal side of me wanted to ask questions of why this almost felt like it was romanticizing suicide and, perhaps dangerously and naively giving every child with impulse control issues a perfect narrative to justify their own by couching their decision in the horribleness of everyone around them.
As purely something to watch, it's one of the most redundant things I've sat through without speeding up the playback. The same fights, the same questions, the same, "I can't I can't I can't. You have to you have to you have to." I understand most of the actors to be relative newbies, but they seem to have been primarily cast to moonlight as a community college's campaign to show how inclusive they are on the brochure. It's not like out and out "bad" acting, as much as it's watching 20+ year old beautiful people pretend to embody the kind of angst and drama you might find in "Kids" or "American Honey." Alongside them is the most oblivious group of parents and teachers a rich society with everything to lose could ask for. I wasn't sympathetic, but you can decide whether it's my white male status trying to condescend, or my voracious appetite for story-telling that was moved to say so.
The story reads like an adult who compiled a bunch of modern teenagers tales about high school and then tried to weave a narrative as though it was personally experienced. There's an emphasis on asking whether the main girl was bullied, a hot button issue frequently disproved as the most significant indicator predicating self-harm. One should seek to describe particularly "toxic" environments, sure, but each piece of her breakdown has crimes that are eerily equated to the most horrendous actors. Publishing her poem anonymously as egregious as rape? What if it gets out! Let's convene a round-table and figure out how to cover our asses. It's hard to ratchet up sympathy for her or the accused when you frame her reasons like a soup of disappointment where we all should be ashamed, no matter how small our part.
I mostly don't like when serious issues that mean serious things to a lot of people get popular simply because of their subject matter and not because the subject is handled with any tact or appreciation for what's been learned about it. Beautiful people prescribing the dialogue for justifying the social space to be shared and protected for rapists doesn't do anyone any favors. Elegant streams of blood in a white dress strew about the floor or bathtub make the act look almost sacred. Depicting everyone as self-involved failures who can't understand or can't respond proactively until after the fact serves to delegitimize the efforts made to better understand and treat those who suffer from the myriad reasons that might provoke suicide. You could copy and paste this girl's experience into the lives of hundreds of thousands of people who made it through similar circumstances, but you won't find any of them here.
Any given moment you can have hundreds, maybe thousands of reasons to die. Most then move on to the hundreds plus 1 to keep going. Many who find themselves contemplating suicide span a whole host of reasons that speak to maladies more out of their control than image management. Most don't want to make a kind of perverse game or mystery out of mitigating justice or exposing the truth. This mostly just feels dishonest. It's like it wants to appeal to the most selfish instinct that reroutes everything we should be saying or doing to change and put it at the feet of our sick sad world. There are characters who at various points try to speak to this sentiment, but always in a, "he said she said" reduction that doesn't explore any real degree of truth or how it unfolds. Someone who never found answers champions quitting looking for them.
https://www.fatherly.com/health-science/psychology/netflix-13-reasons-why-suicidal-thoughts/
I know kids are stupid, but they aren't this stupid right? Clay is such a baby. I still don't buy that he would take FOREVER to listen to all the tapes. Don't even get me started on seasons 2-4, absolute garbage, but fun to make fun of with friends.
Edit: Just realized the insane over-representation of LGBTQ+ people in the show (we aren't THIS prevalent in society!) Is the school built above the gay Hellmouth?
I'm honestly so torn with this one. It's well done, that's for sure, but I didn't love it. On one hand, I like that it focuses on the horrible effects of bullying. But on the other hand, the glorification of teen suicide is unsettling. Not sure I would feel comfortable letting my teenage son or daughter watch this series (if I had a teenage son or daughter).
I sobbed uncontrollably during Hanna's last scene. Heartbreaking stuff, but brilliantly executed. All those poor kids lost to suicide; It's a conversation we needed to have and this show is a catalyst.
One of the most beautiful, heartbreaking, powerful show I have ever seen. As someone who struggled with depression for years, I felt understood very well. The cast is incredible, the story is truly heartbreaking and it sends such a strong message out into the world.
Note to everyone watching this who attempted suicide or has previously attempted suicide: take this show slow, it will wear you out. I watch the first 6 episodes once a day and woke up every morning after that feeling stressed out. The rest of it was depressing, watched it all in one sitting. I mean hearing a dead girl's story of why she killed herself is a very hard pill to swallow. This is what happen when people hurt each other and didn't care about someone else's feelings. The story is emotional and I hardly made it every episode with out myself tearing up.
Don't forget, you are not alone.
This is such an amazing show. It's also heartbreaking and hard to watch at times. From someone who has tried to take their life multiple times, If you have these feelings, don't watch this show just yet, this show has emotionally destroyed me.
What a ridiculously well-made serie. While watching the serie I felt that I was part of the cast. If that happened you know how good the serie is! Well done Netflix!
Liked season 1 a lot. Season 2 was good, and season 3 episode 1should have been included in 2. The rest.... Wtf?! It just seemed pointless and needless & like they kept dragging the show out with every possible edgy & "upsetting" subject they could, ruining the show. Why even call it "13 reasons why" after that point? Oh and btw the website they recommend is an insulting joke to anyone who has ever had mental health problems. Give me a break. Ugh. I wish they had just ended this when it should have been....
My experience watching this.
Season 1: Amazing! This is a great series. They did most things right and the cast is amazing. Minnette is an amazing MC and his acting is more than good enough. Sometimes I feel him being a one man face similar to Kristen Steward, but sometimes you get some small surprises. The rest of the cast is also great. I cannot be impartial when rating Langford since I have a huge crush on her, I'm totally biased. Unfortunately, the cast also suffers from what I call the CW Curse; the "everyone is really good looking or at least nice looking" curse.
Season 2: Well, ok, that was... nice. Still entertaining but I'm starting to doubt the motivation of the characters.
Season 3: ................. WTF!?
Season 4: What kind of trashfire is this? Is this fanfiction? Am I watching Shonda Rhimes by accident? Who the hell keeps uping the stakes so stupdly besides Rhimes? Geezus fucking christ man! What is it with Clay obviously having a mental problem and not even the doctors seeing it? What stupid development. This was a mistake. SHUT IT DOWN, MAN! Shut it all down.
I felt that this show really should be evaluated in three parts, as it’s almost as if there were three shows in one. The first season was based on the novel of the same name, so the writers had clearly marked signposts to follow. As the novel was quite compelling, so too was the first season of the show. However, this is where the book ended, and the writers had to take up the slack. The natural progression of events led them to follow the court case surrounding the death of Hannah Baker, as well as the criminal trial of Bryce Walker..
I felt that these two seasons should be evaluated in terms of being different shows. The first season was clearly the best season of the four b/c, that’s the material the book covered, and the writers didn’t have to come up w/ any of their own material. The second season, although panned by some fans and critics, still followed the same themes of the first season, yet it was not up to par in terms of storyline or writing.
The third and fourth seasons should be considered a third show all on their own. While they did stick to similar themes from the first and second seasons, the writers clearly had no plan in place to go beyond the end of the novel. These last two seasons, especially, felt completely disjointed from the first two. The third season was long and drawn out, and the payoff in the end was neither surprising nor all that interesting. If they had maintained more of a mysterious atmosphere over what they were doing, it might have been better.
The fourth season was just a mess. Watching a main character who’s moody, bitter, angry, intense, depressed, and slipping into schizophrenia is not a compelling watch. They began this in season three and continued on in season four. It really added no particular value to the show or the character of Clay.
As for the storyline in the final season, it was absolutely ludicrous. I won’t go into the details, but suffice it to say, the writers really didn’t put much thought into what they were doing. The last two episodes of the show were especially pointless. The prom episode was completely unnecessary, as was the finale, at least the way it was filmed. And, it certainly didn’t require 90 minutes to portray the events of what happened in the finale. Not to mention, the last scene of the show was absolutely awful.
I think that the worst part of this show, however, was the treatment of two characters, Bryce Walker and Montgomery de la Cruz. In the third season, the writers actually spend quite a few resources rehabilitating the image of Bryce, as if there was some redemption to be had for him. He was a serial predator, and his actions would have stemmed from a deep-seated psychological disorder that wouldn’t have simply gone away, b/c he acknowledged his wrongdoing and felt bad about it. They did something similar w/ Monte in the fourth season, and I felt that it was incredibly disingenuous, dangerous, and irresponsible to take this path, b/c it showed that they really hadn’t researched the topics they were writing about. It was really surprising to watch this, and even both of Jessica’s relationships w/ Justin and Diego were quite questionable, especially given her role as head of the women’s rights movement on campus.
A very interesting and difficult show to watch, I think it is too good and is a must to watch show, especially the first season, the bad thing about it, is that every season it falls in quality.
Irresponsable, superficial, infinita. Si Hannah Baker hubiese visto 13 reasons why, se habría matado antes. Infinita: 13 razones, una más absurda que otra, cuando vi la 1ra razón pensaba que irían en aumento la intensidad de las razones que tenía para matarse, pero no fue así. Me di cuenta que no se podía poner peor cuando una de las razones de la niña era que Zack, que intentó ser amable con ella, le robó las tarjeticas de conejito que le dejaban en anónimo. Vaya que razón para matarse ¿no?. Irresponsable: Es una serie para adolescentes eso está claro, y eso es lo peor de todo. ¿Qué pensará un niño más débil que Hannah, más pobre, más feo y con verdaderas razones estar triste al ver esta serie? Definitivamente hay niñas con menos amigos, con problemas reales, y que ven cosas peores que las tonterías por las que ella se vio afectada. Superficial: Pensé que en algún momento habría un giro, una vuelta que demostraría lo egoísta, presumida, superficial y dramática que fue Hannah, pero no, la serie genuinamente pretendió dejarla como una víctima, lo cual a mi parecer es un insulto al verdadero bullying que atraviesan muchas personas. 13 horas de mi vida perdida.
From the first episode you can see that these kids are really messed up but, of course, it gets worse, A LOT.
I don't recommend watching this to everyone, or at least not at any state of mind.
Honestly, it's quite hard to watch at some points. I hear people watch it in one day non-stop, but I'm more like Clay, I didn't see more than two episodes in a day, at some points I just couldn't. There's a great deal of messed up shit.
Seing the show as a whole is very well done, amazing actors, directing and everything but in the end I didn't love it. People kept saying that I HAD TO LOVE this show but in the end I just liked it.
There's a thought that keeps buzzing my mind and it's how is it possible for 11 teenagers (not one or two, but every single one) to pass the tapes with the reasons why a girl killed herself and blamed tham in them? I'm thinking right now about Alex, Zach, maybe even Courtney.... Who were not innocent, but they were letting a mentally ill girl (yes, she had decided to kill herself so yeah) to put her suicide on their mistakes, maybe it was their own way of pauing for those mikstakes?? At this point I don't really know anymore. It's no surprise that it ended with an attempt of suicide too.
It's really dark, it's important you're in right headapace before watching this. I'm not sure, but maybe parents need to be careful their kids are exposed to this (teenagers).
I watched this show after the hype has cooled down and just for the sake of checking it out. I dived in not expecting anything, but man, I was hooked after the pilot. Every episode makes you watch the next one asap.
I did not expect much from this series. Thought again, it's a 0815 highschool series. Still, I looked at the first episode. What can I say. The concept inspired me. The story and the actors play really well. Episode by episode, it becomes more difficult to keep going for me and for the main protagonists. A very good and thoughtful series.
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Very good slow paced tv show. Different than other teen movies I've seen... There's darkness in it that I love. Tho I expected it to be gloomier in every way, but I think its decent enough. Hannah was a very unfortunate girl combined with unfortunate events & her fragile heart. Clay make me biting nails coz of his indecisive character... And at the end he learned in a hard way. Kudos!
there´s should be only 2 tapes, all rest is just "drama queen" we see everyday.... and that we been trough without making our parents suffer from our idea of an easy way out.
strong performances made this one of the best teen shows i seen.
Damn, piece of art. Watched all episodes in just a weekend (that's pretty fast for a person like me) and especially the last episode got me quiet. It's a beautiful story and looking at the cinematography they did a very good job. I liked the difference in color corrections: warm/yellow colors for the past, the cold, blue colors for what is happening now. They clearly had spend a lot of time creating this cinematography and that resulted in a pretty good season. I don't cry often or easily watching a movie or series, but this one got me right in the heart. Definitely a "must-watch".
BEYOND REPEATING THIS IS A MUST SEE!
I also have to say, as a PARENT, watching this, my WORST NIGHTMARES came to life on screen!
Seeing what it is like for kids of this generation in school. The effects Social Media & Electronics have on BULLYING.
It's no longer some kid at school, always picking on u, now w/a few clicks, that kid, makes his jokes, go viral, now it's like the ENTIRE SCHOOL & BEYOND, r picking on u!!!WTF? How is ANYONE supposed to deal w/that & keep their sanity, MUCH LESS TEENAGERS w/their brains still developing!
U see it like a train wreck in slow motion, u watch each & every action & it's effect on the charactors, u see how bullying pushes kids to suicide or mass homicide, and u see ALL THE WARNING SIGNS & u see how they r SO NORMAL, NO ONE NOTICES THEM! but in retrospect they will see they were all there all along!
Probably the best Netflix series this year.
Definitely agree that the show gets worse as the seasons progress. It is addictive though. The characters become more annoying and the messaging more and more woke. Meh. Watch season 1 as it had the best most thought through concept, ditch the rest.
"Just move", I'll give it a try
entertaining and addictive but worsens season by season
The first season has some really haunting scenes, especially with the suicide. Pretty dark for people to watch it. The second season they just wanted to make it even more dark but then it fell totally flat. Never watched if after that.
They should have just done S1 and left it at that
A series that deserves to be watched at school (more precisely middle/high school). In terms of harassment, it shows all aspects very well: from minor problems to the most serious problems….
Just do yourself a favor and stop after the first season. Don't make your life any more painful than it has to be.
Pretty sure I only watched the first season. I accidently marked the others watched. Doesn't really matter since this show is stupid.
13 Reasons Why is a powerful and thought-provoking show that tackles difficult topics such as suicide, bullying, and mental health. It follows the story of a high school student, Clay Jensen, as he discovers the reasons why his classmate, Hannah Baker, took her own life. The show is incredibly well-acted and the writing is sharp and emotionally charged. It's a show that will make you think and feel, and it's a must-watch for anyone looking for a thought-provoking and emotionally charged show. The show is not without its flaws, however, as it can be overly melodramatic at times and the pacing can be a bit slow. But overall, 13 Reasons Why is a powerful and thought-provoking show that will make you think and feel.
Amazing first season. And here is my recommendation to everyone. Stop watching after season one!!!
The second season will be disappointing and season 3 and 4 are so bad, I regret watching them.
Season rating:
1: 10/10
2: 7/ 10
3: 5 /10
4: 1/10
i quit watching at season 1 in episode 7
this whas nothing. the story and characters wasted my time
This show was one incredible season and then 3 absolutely useless seasons that for some reason Netflix felt the need to add? I refuse to watch the other three seasons because in my honest opinion (having read the book) I don't know why it needed to continue. Please however feel free to try and change my mind.
Always loved this show season 1 will always have a place in my heart :sparkling_heart:
I abandoned the show after the second season (which took me way too long to watch).
It was just too painful and the episodes are way too long.
Season one is good but not great and season two killed the show for me, no regrets!
I'm glad this show learned me how to quit though, as I tend to always want to finish everything till the very end!
good first season, shitty the rest of the show. season 2 was questionable, season 3 was very... what the fuck and season 4 was just embarrassing. and I've watched every single bit of it (in 2020. literally only because I had nothing else better to do). I hate myself. I'm glad I can barely remember the show. kinda wanna rewatch season 1 though...
only thing this show is good for: finding out about wallows lol. good band
Made suicide look so cheesy that it probably saved my life.
This series was probably one of the first shows I've watched on Netflix.
The first season had flaws, but at least the story made somewhat more sense compared to the last season, which was following too many characters, including newly added ones. Season one was easier to follow because it showed a chained domino effect from one person to another. All the internal struggles and bad decisions people make do make us audience reflect on our own decisions. The soundtrack was very good with timing and suited the mood of the scenes.
The flashback scenes and transitions were pretty smooth, but I think they may have overdone the saturation in season 2.
I believe the show should have ended in season 2 when Hannah's arc was completed. The last season, in particular, seemed to dramatize characters actions, and the story started to become warped, leaving little room to connect with the viewers. The remaining seasons did try to show the aftermaths of the remaining characters, but the pacing and story direction started to lose the meaning behind the title "13 reasons why".
Overall, I still found Minette's performance convincing, and most of the cast did their best with the given material.
Amazing show, loved watching this and got really attached to the characters! Although I feel the story was dragged on way too long and could have been finished in a few less episodes.
My favourite season was probably Season 3 would never have expected a certain someone to do that certain thing!!
I don’t know why, but even though this show is incredibly important and the plot feels well written, I just don’t care for the characters at all. They appear to lack dimension for me, like they’re being dragged through awful events but none of them maintain a consistent personality. The “bad guys” are comically awful until they’re shown to be misunderstood and when they are, I don’t feel bad for them because I never cared about them to begin with.
I am frustrated with this show because I feel like it has the potential to be a 10/10 if the characters were more like teenagers. Cliché high school tropes fall flat because this show is supposed to be real. It tackles important issues and hardships a lot of us face. Unfortunately, in the end, it’s forgettable.
The first and fourth (final) seasons of this are superb, especially the first. The subject matter is dark which did trigger low moods sometimes - but I also found that cathartic. I would definitely watch again, after some time has passed though I'd probably skip some of the second and third season on rewatching. Overall, excellent.
2 episodes into season 4 and I just can't it's gotten so bad and it wasn't even that good to begin with
First season was pure perfection. Other three shit. Just ton of shit. Money changing everything :(
Will always be in Love with Amy !
This is an amazing, powerful show. Season 1 is a bit of a tough view since it deals with rape and suicide. But the storytelling is really good. Season 2 primarily deals with the aftermath of season 1. Season 3, the characters are still dealing with some residual aftereffects of season 1&2 and adds a new, sadly all too common situation in our schools today. All of this culminating in season 4 (final season) where the characters finally graduate but also deal with so much emotional baggage. Season 4, which was written and filmed before the BLM protests/riots, depicted this very issue in a couple of episodes as if those episodes were written yesterday.
3 Thoughts After Watching ‘13 Reasons Why’:
Season One was a heartbreaking, tragic masterpiece. It was compelling and often incredibly hard to watch — and one of the most emotionally-impactful seasons of television I’ve ever seen. The storytelling via the tapes, in my opinion, was especially unique. The rest of the series, admittedly still super-bingeable, pales in comparison.
Throughout the series, many of the characters become interchangeably likable and despise-able. It’s one of my biggest criticisms of the series. Many of their actions are unnecessarily frustrating, inconsistent, and over-the-top. But, then again, these are high schoolers.
Despite a rocky run, the final episode wraps things up rather nicely. It’s absolutely devastating, which is fitting for a show always shadowed by an ever-present cloud of tragedy, but there’s closure. And maybe even a little hope.
Beyond its first season, when it was “original”, is unwatchable. They should have end the series there.
Education of people entering adulthood is hell regardless of the generation that mentions it. In fact, the most important thing is to survive, most who will tried will succeed. The only question is whether this "learning" leaves no permanent side effects. Unfortunately we can not or subconsciously do not want to change it to be better...
The series itself is unfortunately uneven. The last season definitely downgrade its reception with a multitude of incomprehensible decisions of the characters and a series of serious script errors, it's a pity.
13 Reasons Why is quite the unique show. Every year I have been looking forward to see what is next for the high schoolers in the show, and every year I expect to be rather uncomfortable for the duration of the season. I honestly can't recall any other shows I expect to cringe at so much, and not in a comedic way. While every season will waver in terms of opinions, I personally think the first season was remarkable, the second was the biggest let down in terms of content, season three saw a solid return to form, and season four was well made, despite some writing being overdone, and the send off for the show successfully tied up most of the loose ends. The opinions will depend on your personal interest or connection to the touchy subject matter of each season, but I believe the final season was a blind attempt to touch on just about every other controversial issue that the other seasons did not touch. Some will definitely feel the topics were forced at times throughout the series (especially the last season), but I did personally enjoy the vast majority of everything. The character arcs were incredible and I will miss looking forward to more content with these characters. This is definitely a show that everyone should at least give a whirl, at least the first season, but it will certainly not be for everyone.
Average Season Review: 7.88/10
Recommendation: At Least Give it a Whirl (For Teen Drama Fans)
To anyone that said that this is too dark, it’s not.
This is more real than any other high school tv show/movie. It’s very well made on all the different topic discusses. Anyone can relate to a topic. Such as suicide, self harm, mental health, substance abuse, abandonment, rape, sexuality, etc.
A lot of crying on my part, since some things shown has happened/ is happening to me. Words can not describe how much I actually like this show.
Every teenager should watch this but with a healthy mindset. If you are triggered easily by the topics listen then don’t watch. Parents should absolutely watch this as well to know what teenagers these days struggle with. It’s not just rainbows and butterflies.
As Clay Jensen said, it’s about life and death
The last two seasons were fantastic. I didn't like the first season and I don't even remember the second season. S4 was everything. Character development and growth, instead of focusing on mysteries and murder. The writers did good with the :rainbow: characters. They didn't feel like tokens. S4 gon burst the gays hearts.
It’s so bad opining.. I don’t like how everything becomes :waving_white_flag::rainbow:
I don't get how this suicide advertisment is still being produced with less outrage than a movie featuring an actor having the wrong shade of black...
Extremely sensitive topics are taken into account here.So please watch with that in mind.The forst season itself is hard to take in and moving forward into second season was really hard as all the subjects of the series play their own roles apart from being focussed on a single gal or boy
This is such a bad series, the main theme of the scene is just a poor excuse for adding sad scenes, the poor exploration of delicate themes is not only bad writing, it's also very disrespectful and even kinda dangerous. The series isn't even objectively good, the pacing is painfully slow and the characters have no psychological development at all.
This is actually one of the worst series I've ever watched.
It is sad to think this kind of pressure is the way of our schools today, what a pity our future generations are exposed to such turmoil in their lives. I hesitated to watch this show primarily due to the storyline. The director brings to life the sadness experinced by all affected characters. A sad but true portrayal of all affected by this unnecessary outcome.
It's getting better and better! More issues are being talked about, the characters are more developed and deeper, even though I didn't like that Any girl in S3. Kinda liked Brice in this season.
I have many questions about this show.
For now, I'm just going to ask one. How are teens under the age of 18 shown as having tatts and piercings in this show?
In my opinion this series is good but I think it is not suitable for all audiences.
To start this series it has a book, which I read years ago, which covers only the first season but not the next one, that is to say that the other seasons do not exist in the book.
When I learned that they would release a series, I was very interested and wanted to see it, but for personal reasons I took my time to start it.
When I finished the first season it was like "WOW!" because I didn't expect it to be so graphic. When they announced the second season, I was curious. I wanted to know what they were going to capture in that second season (as I mentioned before the book has no continuation) and what kind of continuation they were going to give to the main story.
When it was released, I saw it in one night and it was another "WOW!" But not like the first. With this season I had feelings in certain scenes and behaviors of some characters. In my opinion the end of this season was unpleasant and shocking at the same time.
In a general opinion, I consider this series explicit and graphic. Talk about very controversial issues such as bullying, suicide, rape, etc. Issues that for most cause a lot of sensitivity. That is why I, in my opinion, cannot recommend this series to everyone because I know that not all people are tolerant of these topics or simply do not feel comfortable talking about it.
I think that it is necessary to speak them because there are topics that should not be taken lightly. I have met people who think that these problems are not important and that one decides to suffer them because they want to or because they want to attract attention, which is not the case.
I think that these issues should be talked about and taken seriously because nobody is free of that.
I don't get why this show is so controversial.
Season 1: This is a book adaptation and I haven't read the book so I don't know what to say. This series is very triggering so I suggest you don't watch this when you are depressed and suicidal because I love you. I love the message of this series maybe it's just the execution is gruesome so it really is not for everyone. Love the characters.
I found season one gripping and a tough emotional watch. Season two seems rushed, and in parts I found myself rolling eyes at the cheesy dialogue. later episodes were excellent with some truly heartfelt writing, but it should have ended with season one. Season three could tarnish the power and message of S1.
And for anyone curious, my rating on average for Season Two: Episode One - Six are an abysmal 2.8. Thank God for the rest of Season Two.
Also, I still really despise Hannah Baker. Especially after learning these many negative things about her this season. So my positive ratings go to pretty much every one but her. You won me in season one, but lost me completely here.
Season Two Review: If I took into account the entire season, it would be a very weak 6/10. However, if we ignore the first six episodes and count only episodes seven and on, this would be a strong 9/10. The first several episodes are pointless, goofy, laughably bad, and contain some of the most horrendous acting yet. However, the show performs exceedingly well in the latter half of the season with powerful performances, thought-provoking questions, and emotional moments. Things I loved: Mr Porter, Hannah’s Mom, Justin’s second half of the season arc, Clay, surprisingly Tyler. Things I hated: the overuse of violence when the show has gone on about suppressing it (I.e Hannah’s mom shooting a gun in the opening shot of the season, Mr Porter erratically beating people up, etc), Justin’s first half of the season drug problem, Alex’s horrible acting (who should have died last season), Jessica’s annoying friends and her stupid decisions, and Hannah’s stupid mother fucking ghost. With that being said, the second half of the season hardly has any issues and if there was any (like Hannah for example), it was done in a much better way. Honestly, the series should end here. The pointless excuse for setting up a season three is laughable. The final episode was perfect for what it was. If they continue to a third season, it will no longer be a 13 Reasons Why and more of a 13 Reasons Why Not... also, a minor annoyance for me was how each episode in the first season revolves around a tape and this one is a photo? We hardly saw any photos in this season until the third quarter of the season. Ugh. It sounds like I hate the show, but trust me, I’m just ranting about the first half, which is abysmal.
The second season of this series unfortunately failed to match the quality level of the first season, the series declined a lot on quality issues. But we still had great moments and the performances are still excellent
Season One (as a whole): 5.5 / Season One (since episode 5): 7.1 / Season One (last four or five episodes): 9 ————- I’m including three ratings for the show because I don’t think the shitty first half of the season should make it look like I hate the entire show. I just hated the first half. But if we are talking about the second half, this is definitely an excellent show. I really disliked Hannah’s character in the first half of the season. She was rude, obnoxious, and got herself into situations she could have avoided. I hated how she blatantly ignored Clay, the guy who practically loves her. But by the end, her character and subsequent tapes sold me. Her emotion is real, Clay’s emotion is phenomenal. Mr Porter is incredible here (that last episode though). Hannah’s parents are terrific actors. I loved Justin by the end of the season. I really disliked Jessica and Alex though. They sucked. As for music, it was excellent, although a little too hipsterish haha. The cinematography was perfect too. The distinction between past and present is pretty well done. I don’t think there needs to be a Season Two, but let’s see what it has to offer.
Season 1: Follows the plot from the book. Has a strong hook to keep the season mysterious and interesting. Really solid acting (extremely impressive despite the large cast). Deals with very real issues that people face at a young age and has a couple of solid plot twists to wrap everything up.
Season 2: An extension of the ending of the book and season 1. I do not know if the author had any say on the plot, but it was a drama filled mess that stretched on too long. The 13 hours of content allows the writers to flesh out every character fairly well, but there's only so much more story that can be told from a couple hundred pages book. I do like how well written the actual trial proceedings were. The show tends to reiterate concepts that have already been done to death. There are some pretty shocking scenes, but the season ends on a cliff hanger that had me scratching my head and not really looking forward to a season 3.
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I don't understand how this show has anything over a 4/10 rating. The acting is E-grade, it's cheesy, predictable, and it falls all over itself to be so beyond politically-correct in every aspect of the writing, production, and characters, that it's actually unrealistic. It's essentially just more Liberal propaganda designed to indoctrinate teens into the Liberal-Borg collective.
i.e. An Asian lesbian girl who was adopted by 2 white, gay men, to be "Dad & Dad". The series is boiling over with examples such as that.
The (far) underlying plot line, where a girl who committed suicide is leading the people who led her to her decision around with a carrot on a stick, and the PSA of not bullying people, and basically, talking bad about them, is the only thing rescuing the series.
Other than that, it's very slow to develop, and watches exactly like one of those cheesy after-school shows I used to watch as a kid. Think, Saved by the Bell, but about suicide, and Liberal indoctrination.