If i had rated this movie immediately after leaving the theater it would have elicited an 8, or 9 because it is a well crafted film. But after doing some research into Christie Marston's claims regarding the film I have to knock off several points.
Very little of it is true, from the dynamics of the relationship to the origins of the comic publication. Christie Marston maintains that Elizabeth and Olive were not lovers (Christie had a strong relationship with her grandmother, Elizabeth, who apparently was quite forward thinking about any sexual activity done by consenting adults, and quite open to talking about her views, and never gave any indication to her family that she and Olive were lovers). It was also Elizabeth who suggested that Marston write his comic with a female lead, rather than being skeptical about his being able to get it published.
The movie also makes Bill Marston out to be a besieged hero, keeping his family together in the face of society's disapproval, and maintaining the integrity of his comic creation in the face of moral guardians. At the end we are told that after his death, Wonder Woman lost it's sexual component, and the character lost her powers. Well yes that is true, but the adoption of the Comics Code Authority was 7 years after his death, and the "mod era," of Wonder Woman was 21 years after.
This film goes a little too far in the amount of creative liberties I'm willing to accept.
It was good to know that your favourite female superhero was born from bondage and threesome.
Thank you Angela Robinson.Now i see wonder woman with a different perspective.I was expecting this from her cuz' of her costume.
Ok, let's go down a few notches and forget this is supposed to be an historically accurate depiction movie of someone's life.
Done? Great.
9/10.
Can't forget?
4/10.
Despite Moulton's granddaughter's claims that this film is inaccurate in its portrayal of relationships (which is undoubtedly going to happen unless the film is made from a journal), I would like to point out what the film gives to its audience.
Not only does it portray a hero in an early comic industry, but also in feminism and psychology. To think that there were people in the early 1900s that held women and their desires in high regard is astounding. As a brief window into history that this film gives, I needed to rate it highly. To me, it shows more effort into the world of sexuality (polyamory) and feminism than many other movies may give you, and I would like to give kudos to the writers who have supplied a good story-line even if they might not have had a lot to go on.
The acting in the movie was great, and I agree with another comment stating that the script was sub-par. Aside from that, it was a pretty good movie. Thanks to those involved.
Supported by its wonderful visuals, Professor Marston and The Wonder Women offers an enthralling look into the origins of the world's foremost female superhero, and the poignant yet taboo relationship instrumental to her creation.
Suffering Sappho!
If there were ever a movie I wanted to be good, (though, realistically, I want almost every movie to be good) it would probably have been this one. Believe me, I was pretty hyped for this film. Actually, my initial reaction to the trailer for this movie was an awesome (in the literal, Biblical sense) headdesk, crashing to the table below, as I bellowed my indignation that I could not have been involved in the making of this movie myself! Is that a little grandiose? Sure, but so am I, so bear with me.
Unfortunately, the reality of this movie turns out to be a little bit of a patchy mess. It is uninspired in its aesthetic (not terribly surprising from the director of infamous Disney reboot "Herbie Fully Loaded," lesbian B movie "D.E.B.S.", and several episodes of "The L Word"), the pacing is erratic and jumbled at times, and the writing flies in the face of historical accuracy and vernacular speech.
Where the movie deserves praise, although sometimes at the expense of its worldbuilding mise en scene, is in the casting and performances of the three principals, Evans, Hall, and Heathcote (in credits order, though not truly in order of importance or merit). Here, each had moments of true brilliance, as the triad stood alone (sometimes too alone, to the detriment of the too-flimsy film world around them) against a sea of angry, very red, very white faces.
I never felt disengaged from the characters, and they were written flawlessly. Where these figures deviate from history (which, I hear, is at many points) I will allow poetic license, because they are painted so vividly and with such charming life. Even when the script is bad, the actors presented it well. Just as even when the script called for the location to be set in New York state, it still looked like Massachusetts.
This movie was truly robbed. With a better cinematographer, two more really good rewrites, and maybe some more specific focus, this movie could have been a serious awards contender, and a very great piece of art. As it is, it's been a blip through the cinemas, to be misunderstood and forgotten until such time as polyamory is more accepted in the social mores of the day, and it can be further misunderstood and miscategorized as evidence of how backward society was in 2017, that this was our take on the Marston/Moulton story.
Of course, by that time, there will be a better "Wonder Women" movie. There had damn well better be.
Solid film. Interesting to see how the man who invented Wonder Woman can find inspiration in real life. All three leads are good but I thought Rebecca Hall was really great. 2017 is the year of the Wonder Woman with 3 films.
Marston is living Lawrence from Office Space's dream of doing two chicks at the same time.
Third time watching this and, now knowing Olive and Elizabeth’s love well enough to not be completely overwhelmed by it like the first two times, what stood out the most to me in this viewing was their characterisation. I just love their complexity and personal contradictions and the way their personalities play off each other.
Bill says that Olive is innocent, pure and kind and that Elizabeth is genius, fierce and a bitch. And that together they are the perfect woman. I don’t love the idea of merging them like that, and thankfully Bill said that at the start of their relationship, or otherwise I would think he completely missed the whole point of their dynamic. What’s fascinating about Olive and Elizabeth is precisely the fact that they’re two completely separate, independent, contrary women with two completely different energies. Yes they compliment each other but they never lose their identity. And it’s just so clever the way Elizabeth is first introduced as this self-empowered modern woman who rejects the patriarchy, and yet is the first to feel ashamed of their polyamory and their fetishes, whilst Olive is a young woman raised by nuns, who looks and acts like she’s never broken a rule in her life and yet is the least judgemental and the most open to new things and all types of love. In the end their character arcs lead them to be less uptight and more assertive, respectively, and it’s just so exciting to go on that journey as a female viewer. They are exactly the type of female characters I want everywhere.
I think I fell in love a little harder this time than the previous two, and this film has cemented its place in my heart.
I LOVE THEIR LOVE!!!!!!
8/10
I enjoyed this movie a lot. The chemistry between the 3 mains is wonderful. I saw the movie for it's entertainment value only and not for a history lesson so to be honest even with reviews that say it took too many liberties I really dont care. I still completely enjoyed the movie.
Interesting, and entertained me while I was watching but I get the feeling that it glossed over a lot of things. Rebecca Hall was fantastic, but her character's worries didn't seem to get much explanation.
Not a totally successful movie - I am sure there was a better biopic to be made - but still a reasonably fascinating account of the man behind Woman Woman, and the women in his life who inspired him.
Interesting semi-biopic drama about the life of the creator of the DC superhero Wonder Woman and the the women that inspired him; his wife and their lover. The film goes through relatively high speed to show the highlights of this, at the time, unusual relationship with some solid acting from all the leads. Sad part is that most of this movie is likely a work of fiction as most details of their relationship was not know at the time this film was in production.
I think this would have been a better movie if the production had stayed closer to the actual facts. (For a historians perspective see https://aelarsen.wordpress.com/tag/elizabeth-holloway-marston/). The acting however is spectacular. The production flawed. So I'm left with a divided response and, consequently, I give the film a 5 out of 10.
I don't usually watch drama movies, but this one was well worth the watch! It is the most beautiful love story, romance, drama movie all mixed in one. An exceptional film to watch if you're looking for emotion, love and endearing characters!
Crap!! A total waste of time, why oh why would anyone spend money on making this ??????
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I knew the story of Professor Marston before I saw the movie and I have to say that the real version is much more interesting than the Hollywoodized version. But it's not a bad movie or a waste of time.
Due to the nature of the story, it has a rather small target audience. I think a lot of people might have expected a more heroic story. Possibly after watching the Wonder Woman movie itself. I think Marston was a hero in his own right, far ahead in his views on society and women. And he put his views into the comic which, naturally, was a no-go at the time.
I really enjoyed the movie which clearly lives from its lead actors. At the same time I like the production in general. And even if we are, as a society, more tolerant than in the 30s and 40s, this movie is a reminder that there still is a lot of prejudice against people outside the so-called mainstream. We may have evolved but we still have a long way ahead.