though I enjoyed the first movie... this was a disappointment. I loved the jokes and ideas in the songs, but I just wanted 5 minutes of movie without a song? none of them was memorable -to me- and by the end of the movie I didn't remember most of the lyrics. the story was the main miss for me though. it's a mishmash of concepts, at some point you're not sure about what's the focus of this movie .there's an enchanted Forest, a tribe, four elements and a pg13 war where literally no one dies. the animation was awesome but the story was reminiscent of a lot of other stories. the ending literally reminded me of the ending of the first maleficent movie . I don't know, I would totally skip this movie for as enjoyable as it was, it was rather weak.
just give elsa a girlfriend already
It's fine but not as good as the first. There are not memorable songs like Let It Go. The story is ok. The animation looks great. Kids will love this too but adults will probably be bored.
character development ON POINT. thank you disney
They did this clean.Nice story,Awesome visuals and songs.Its all what I wanted.As the theme was adventurous,it kept a perfect pace till end.
3 Thoughts After Watching ‘Frozen II’:
You can definitely tell the movie has aged with the audience because the lyrics are deep and the songs are emotional and not really songs that I’d expect little girls to be randomly belting out like the first movie
Elsa is a horse girl and the avatar
As narrative and mythology imply, this second installment in the Frozen franchise, expands the backstory of the two sisters and offers answers to huge questions from the first movie while also expanding their magical world. Frozen 2 is a visually stunning adventure focused on righting the wrongs of the past to have a better future. A more mature and at times, dark plotline drives the characters into the unknown (no pun intended) to uncover a hard truth about their family and their kingdom. For the kids, this is a story about family and bravery; for the parents, a tale about dark secrets, past mistakes, finding redemption and embracing your true nature.
Did nothing to thaw my cold heart. Another pointless sequel, well made but lacking in story and imagination.
Much better than the first.
The songs aren't being yelled out- at the top of their voices.
Olaf hasn't become annoying as feared.
Animation is superb, there are some great physical gags/looks by the characters. On top of that, Every shot looks breathtaking.
There's a pretty decent back story, that doesn't feel too crowbarred / ret-conned
Most importantly my 4 & 6yr olds loved it.
I'm not gonna mind the multiple watchings and soundtrack repeats of this..
*2 month update - I have absolutely no issues with this movie & added a star.
A few reviewers have clearly not watched the movie-
They have mentioned olaf's missing snowcloud;
Anna aks him about his 'permafrost'
Elsa's choice at the end Is against character :rolling_eyes:;
The whole movie has been about her longing for what is missing from her life & showing the sisters growing with life's changes..
1other thing..... THANOS, you bastard!
It was all right I guess, but nothing like the first one. Felt sort of empty overall. I'm probably going to forget about it in a few days. It was like they were trying to cram so much story in but they didn't have enough time.
Better than the first? I do not agree- I think I’m in the minority.
This is a fine film. The cgi is good. The music is good. The story is meh.
The story of this film is centred around change, growing up and teamwork. I can see the value for children to watch this and it’s nice for the film to have a clear message (looking at you toy story 4).
For me it is impossible not to compare this to the first one. The first one felt rooted in relatable human emotion, this one felt more childish and fairy tale like.
This is only my opinion, I’m sure a lot of people will love it.
This was such a great movie, much more mature than the first one in my opinion. The songs were not memorable in the same way that Let It Go was, but that's because the lyrics are more serious and emotional. I love the new clothes and hairstyles and The Next Right Thing deserves more recognition. It's a beautiful and heartfelt song
Aw man, I'm so mad that I actually enjoyed that (I was so determined to hate it lol).
Just like Frozen, the first half is a bit bland but the latter half packs a punch.
So badass. When Elsa heard herself from the first movie sing and is like “bah follies of the youth”
This is quite dark and serious. Love that.rising from the floor when it’s not you I’m rising for … that hit.
And “I’m here, what do you need” is the best thing I’ve heard in a Disney movie in a while.
Olaf is just a genius character. He made me laugh, he made me cry. Yes, I want to build a snowman :snowman2:
[7.0/10] I don’t know what to do with Frozen 2. It’s a movie with some bold choices, and even some greatness in it, that’s also at least two drafts away from feeling fully-formed and complete. It starts off with a rush of jumbled lore-introduction, info-dumps, and piece-moving, pivots into one of the darkest but powerful stretches ever in a Disney movie, and then just as quickly rushes its way toward the expected happy ending, albeit a heartening one. It’s got brilliant visuals, intriguing themes, and some delightful comedy, but also a confused script, shaky worldbuilding, and hastily-sketched new motivations.
That said, at the end of the day, I still like it better than Frozen 1. Like its predecessor, Frozen 2’s ideas are better than its execution, but those ideas are bolder and more ambitious, so I’m a bit more willing to forgive the film’s reach exceeding its grasp. This movie tries to do a lot, and not all of its worth doing. Of the things that are, not all of them are done well. But there’s more going on under the hood here -- arguably more than a roughly ninety-minute film can handle -- which makes me admire its aims, even where it falls short.
The one area where Frozen 2’s goals easily meet its actual accomplishments is in the film’s visuals, which are head and shoulders better than those in the 2014 original. The big-headed barbie doll look for the main characters still looks a little strange, with some uncanny valley effect when they get extra emotive. In the same vein, some of the new characters look fairly generic, either lacking distinctiveness in their design or falling into the “standard Disney cute” territory.
But the movie also opts from an autumnal vibe in lieu of the original wintertime look, and the results are utterly gorgeous, with a wash of red and orange against a welcoming countryside. Stony earth guardians wheeze and lumber with the right balance of living spark and nature-y trappings. And the film’s action sequences are propulsive and stunning, particularly Elsa’s ice-assisted wave-breaking and Anna’s dam-crushing race against the earth guardians.
The film also has plenty of solid comic relief, which once again mainly comes in the form of Olaf the enchanted snowman (now gifted with permafrost). The running gags about him having matured, evolving into theoretically more complex thoughts and a font of arcane details bring the chuckles. The moments in the picture that poke fun at the most notable elements of the last movie have a self-aware comedy bite to them. Just Josh Gad’s delivery of lines that aren’t especially hilarious on paper elevates them and keeps the film’s dramatic moments more lively and accessible.
That’s necessary because a lot of those moments don’t really make sense. The first half of the movie barrels through a raft of cobbled together details from Anna and Elsa’s past, their kingdom’s history, the relevance of neighboring communities, the mythos of the region, the source of Elsa’s powers, a crisis that threatens to destroy Arendelle, parental secrets, nature spirits, trapped realms, generational conflicts, water being able to summon images from the past, and tons of other bits and pieces that make you feel like a story with this much baggage should have been done as a miniseries rather than crammed into forty-five minutes of setup.
It also zips to establish major impulse and pulls for the major characters. Elsa has her responsibilities as queen, but keeps hearing the call to adventure, and knows it’s something she’s s’pose to be, “Rainbow Connection”-style. Anna is worried about losing her sister again and so won’t let Elsa do anything on her own. Kristoff...wants to propose, and is bad at it. OK, his isn’t as good as the others, but still, all of these are solid planks on which to build a story. There’s just not enough time in all the throat-clearing and new additions to the world, cast, and rapidly-expanding plot for any of this stuff to feel fully baked.
It also doesn't help that most of the songs are good enough, but like the ones in the original Frozen, a little too poppy or on-the-nose to fully burrow into your heart. There are, however, two exceptions. Once again, Olaf’s song nearly steals the show, with his “When I’m Older” number capturing an amusing flavor of teenage certainty with humor and sweetness. Likewise, “Show Yourself” is the emotional climax of the picture, and represents Elsa’s psychological breakthrough, with soaring melodies and impressionistic visuals to match.
The song arrives just when Frozen 2 really starts to get interesting and, frankly, pretty dark. Elsa and Anna discover their parents’ wrecked ship and essentially witness their last moments before Elsa shoos her sister away. Right after that emotional breakthrough, Elsa nebulously “pushes too far” and becomes frozen herself. That push still leads her to witness her grandfather maliciously turning on their neighbors to the north out of prejudice toward magical folk. Olaf dies thanks to Elsa’s neutralization at the hands of unhappy spirits. And Anna has to reckon with what it means to be fully alone, resolving to do the “next right thing” despite all she’s lost.
This material comes at the audience quickly, and one after another, but it’s powerful, embracing the emotional depths and hardships that don’t typically have currency in Disney, at least not in this sustained fashion. It’s worth the price of admission and almost single-handedly justifies the film. There’s not adequate build to these moments, and the fast resolution undercuts them, but Frozen 2 depends on them as the crux of its project, and that much works.
They also feed into an intriguing anti-colonial, ecological theme that runs through the heart of the picture. It’s masked in layers of symbolism and magic and fantasy, but there’s a potent notion of harmony between communities, and recompense needing to be made for those who’ve benefited at the expense of another group, even if that requires reckoning with misdeeds from one’s own family and making sacrifices in your community to achieve it.
Of course, the movie zips its way to the preordained happy ending in ways that aren’t exactly earned. Anna comes up with a rapid, reckless plan to destroy the dam that’s been hurting the magical folks, even if it’ll wreck Arendelle. But the consequences are obviated by the move restoring the magical balance and thus restoring Elsa, who uses her magical powers to spare Arendelle from suffering any real consequences. Olaf is revived. Kristoff figures the right time to propose. All of the darkness and tough choices the movie scratches out in its crestfallen middle are wrapped up and fixed in about ten minutes of screen time, with little in the way of costs or impact.
That is, perhaps, inevitable in a Disney movie where everything has to end with the characters copasetic and a new joyous status quo forged. But it’s just another area where Frozen 2’s considerable strengths have to contend with its just as considerable weaknesses. The movie aims high, spinning a complicated yarn about angry spirits, lost histories, uneasy psyches, and anti-colonial corrections. That the movie loses control of that rumbling snowball of ideas is no sin, but it does make you wish the creatives who started it rolling took a little more time to settle on a clear direction for it.
I have to say I really enjoyed this. Like it’s predecessor, it’s very much a musical but this time around they’re a little more mature like the characters. For me that’s a good thing as we won’t hear these songs being overly massacred on mindless ‘talent’ shows.
Much like the first, I kind of longed for Anna to discover that she too had a hidden power. I would have like to have paved the way for a Frozen 3 where some sibling rivalry kicked in but it wasn’t to be. That said, it was a good story, visually stunning and as always with Disney, leaves you with a warm, fuzzy glow.
Throughout my first viewing of this I kept thinking, "This is better than the first!" Afterwards I started reading reviews to see what others thought and became a bit befuddled. I didn't expect everyone to agree that it was the better one, but I also didn't expect as much disfavor for it as there is. Another reviewer said something along the lines of there being nothing Disney could have done to meet the expectations of many simply because the original was held in such high regard by them. I absolutely agree. Someone else pointed out that like half the negative reviews whined that it was too predictable and the other half said it didn't make sense. Well, which is it? I'll get back to these subjects.
So, I decided to re-watch the first one since I'd only seen it once in its entirety shortly after it came out, and then go on and re-watch the second again for more immediate comparisons. I'm so glad I did! I have oodles to say though, so "cuddle close, scooch in."
This does have a great deal of musical numbers in it, so early on I knew there would be those who loved and those who hated the movie for that very same reason; and hey, I find that a fair reason on either side. I have a friend who told me they had a hard time getting through Moana because, "that's a lot of singing", so if that flick was too much for you, then this one will likely be way too much for you. On occasion even I have been like, "Really? More singing?" But not with this. It was an aspect I thoroughly enjoyed.
One could argue that these songs are new and fresh in my mind, and that "Let It Go" just got massively overplayed, so it's less appealing to me now. I don't think so though. I don't recall ever personally thinking that Frozen's biggest hit song was just the bomb dot com anything like I think practically all of these songs are. Maybe they aren't the type of automatic catchy tunes that are quickly learned and mimicked by children everywhere, but they are so damn beautiful.
I can't even with these songs. I wish I knew how to properly address each one uniquely enough. The inflections, the rising and the falling, the build, the emotion as the characters continue on their journeys, both physically and in self discovery or reflection.
They. Are. Spectacular.
"Show Yourself" gives me crazy chills and the imagery along with it is outstanding. "Lost in the Woods" is done like some epic 80s music video, which I happily heard as a recurrent compliment! "Into the Unknown" and "The Next Right Thing" also have to at least be mentioned here or I'll feel like I'm doing them a dishonor.
They did introduce a lot of new characters in order to drive the story they wanted to tell, but their focus was on the characters already developed; and I quite liked that. I didn't find the new characters boring or bothersome as many did, even if it would have been nice to get to know them better. Samantha's limited performance was stunning!
Honestly, if they’d taken even just another half hour in order to explore more details of the events and some of the other people I believe I would have been totally into it; because I’m certain they would have done it masterfully and kept it entertaining, but I understand why they wouldn’t risk doing that. I thought they did very well to fit so much into the time frame without the story feeling rushed or like important details were just crammed in. Huge props to the talented people who can accomplish that!
As for the movie being too predictable; I personally didn't find it that way. For example, yeah; we (adults) all knew (or were at least pretty darn sure) that Olaf and Elsa weren't gone forever and would be back again somehow by the finale. But Anna didn't. Part of the point is immersing yourself in the story and connecting with the characters in order to feel some of what they are meant to feel, so regardless of that predictability, it's still touching.
Besides, you adults do realize that you’re griping about predictability in movies overall created for younger audiences, where the leading (good guy) characters are expected to live happily ever after? That’s how it works and that’s how it should continue to work. I believe they’re doing an amazing job at making these films so that we adults can also genuinely enjoy them with our children.
I personally think that the predictability surely helps kids learn. They are shown a certain chain of events and over time it begins to come together more and more; how one thing leads to another, how to figure out what's likely or possible to happen from the context clues given and whatnot. As an adult, I do often crave the thrill of suspense and having no inkling of where a story is going, but there's also plenty to be appreciated about predictability. Life itself can be tough enough with its inevitable unpredictability, so why not enjoy fictional characters navigating their way through their fictional struggles with full fictional success and getting their fictional happy endings once in a while. A feel good story just feels good.
Another “predictable” example though, because it relates to the next topic, of “things not making sense.” The moment it's said that there's a fifth spirit we were all like, "It's Elsa!" Were we all absolutely certain of that though? I automatically banked on it being Elsa too, but I also wondered if maybe Elsa was just a part of it all and the fifth spirit needed her help. I will go on about my very own confused thoughts on Elsa being the fifth spirit after a few other paragraphs.
Lots of reviewers cried that things did not make sense. There were some things that I didn’t feel were clear after the first watch but became that way after the second; so it may just be a matter of not quite catching every detail in full and needing another go of it like I did (which, as becomes obvious, is not at all a reflection of the way in which the movie was made!)
Some examples of what was cleared up for me:
(1) I wondered where the grandfather and possibly the leader of the Northuldra disappeared to if all the others had been there trapped inside the forest; because I only remember it being implied that there was an attack that began the fighting, and not that either killed the other in that attack. Plus, I just happened to forget that they were both shown falling off a cliff in the story scene told by Elsa and Anna’s father. Later when I realized I was like, oh yeah, duh. Mystery solved.
(2) I didn’t understand why the water horse fought Elsa so hard and then suddenly was just like, “Okay, yeah, never mind. Lemme just help this magical stranger lady cross instead.” It helped to realize that the horse represented the water spirit and that each spirit was shown upset and then settled by Elsa. Except for maybe the earth spirits. I believe they chilled out because the wrong was made right, but Elsa helped make that happen; so she indirectly settled them!
What remains unclear to me are elements of the story surrounding Elsa being the fifth spirit. It’s mentioned by Honeymaren when talking with Elsa by a campfire that the fifth spirit “called out the day the forest fell.” Well, Elsa (the fifth spirit) didn’t exist then because that was when her mother was a child and had just met and saved her father. I wondered briefly, does this mean that her mother was originally the fifth spirit and the powers were passed onto Elsa? No, that doesn’t really fit, especially since her mother didn’t know how to help Elsa with her powers. That’s what lead to her death; trying to find that out.
On Wikipedia it says, “Elsa discovers that the voice calling to her was the memory of young Iduna's call; that her powers were a gift from nature because of Iduna's selfless act of saving Agnarr and that Elsa herself is the fifth spirit.”
Does this mean that the spirit of Elsa (also being the fifth spirit) was “created” in that moment of moral strength and kindness when her mother called out as she saved “her enemy?” Well, again, no. That hits a snag because it had to be then that Iduna and Agnarr left the forest before they could be trapped inside with the others; and Iduna was wearing the scarf that displayed five spirits already existing.
How and where did this fifth spirit exist outside of Elsa while Elsa didn’t exist if the fifth spirit is Elsa?
Again, Wiki says that the voice calling her to Ahtohalla was the memory of her mother’s call. Well, Elsa can’t have the memory of her mother’s call that happened before she was born, can she? Not normally! She wasn’t even conceived yet. The fire spirit could hear the call too and it’s often said or implied that it’s the fifth spirit calling her, so Elsa was calling herself? She did discover herself there, and “her mother.” Maybe it’s that a part of her spirit was waiting there to be “complete” with Elsa. In the song “Show Yourself” some lyrics are “You are the answer I’ve waited for/All of my life.” Why did she/it never call before then though? Maybe because Elsa had to be ready to grow? “Grow yourself.”
Elsa was shown images of the other spirits as she would see them in the future when she went outside curious about the call, before awakening the spirits of the forest. How exactly does all that work? The past, that was also her, was calling her, and she was also being shown snippets of the future. I don’t know! I keep trying to have it click into place more solidly for me, but it’s just not happening. Maybe it’s not meant to or doesn’t have to. I mean, it is magical.
That’s one reason I love this movie so much. It is so fucking magical. It even has a kind of fantasy type vibe to it.
The animation was amazing in the first film, but this was next level. It was breathtaking. Every scene was stellar; it was gorgeous in color and contrast, and crisp and clean and just, completely captivating. I cannot get over how goddamn gorgeous it was.
I adore the attention to detail, like in the beginning scenes where Anna strokes her mother’s hand with her fingertip, and the tender ways in which Iduna touches and carries her daughters. There’s so much expression, in body movement and in facial features.
I think that the movie flowed nicely and kept a really pleasant pace. Maybe some of the songs slowed down the momentum of the action, but again, they were so beautiful that I didn’t mind.
Some common (and one off) complaints and my thoughts on them:
(1) I found it interesting that like half the reviewers said Olaf was (thankfully) toned down in this second film but the other half said that he was even more “annoying.”
I thought he was exceptional in both! He’s so much more than just simple comic relief, especially in this one. Olaf’s existential dread is so well done; they tackled complex feelings that aren’t so much fun in an amazingly fun way, with such good, balanced humor and grace. Like that the fear and uncertainty that comes with aging and change is normal, and that things can be scary when they do change, but still turn out okay.
(2) Some said that Anna was being overbearing and overprotective, but I didn’t view it that way at all.
I found it quite troublesome that Elsa kept pushing her away. She brought up Anna saying she believed in her in defense of going alone, but Anna proved her trust in her sister’s judgment before in the scene where Elsa explained that she had been hearing a voice. Anna just didn’t want her sister to get hurt or killed, and that was an absolutely valid concern.
I do think it was probably important that Elsa take some of that journey on her own, plus, she was just as worried about Anna’s safety; but she could have at least taken a minute to try and explain any of that to Anna rather than tricking her and just outright breaking the promise she’d clearly made. Maybe there could be the argument that Elsa felt certain that there was no use; that Anna would be stubborn and not even begin to consider her side. But still, it felt like an asshole move on Elsa’s part.
(3) I realize the proposal was considered too cliché to many, but like, regardless I just love seeing love, and I love being in love and I love grand gestures and sweet words and actions of romantic expression.
Personally I’ve always loved watching all the various proposal videos out there, and have longed for my very own special moment of surprise someday. Just because Kristoff’s proposal is quite cliché doesn’t make it any less genuine or meaningful. His stumbling and struggling to get it done throughout the movie shows that he cares; it is quite obvious how important Anna is to him.
Sure, a ring being given by a man to a woman on bend-ed knee is this “standard societal heteronormative” thing and feminist views and such could be talked to death surrounding the entire subject of traditional proposals, weddings, and marriage; but, all that matters in the end is that the two involved people are happy with whatever they choose to do. Because that’s just it. Nobody is making anybody do it any certain way.
Now, do I like the idea of other ways being represented in media? Sure! But am I going to complain that it didn’t happen here? No! It was simple and it was sweet and it was all that was needed here, in part because it is universally understood. It works and there’s nothing wrong with it.
Some societal expectations massively suck and should definitely be consistently challenged, but this seems pretty straightforward. It’s about you and another person declaring love for one another and if you’re proposing you ought to know them well enough to know if they’ll mind the way you’re doing so; but it’s not so much something that can harm or hinder your progress navigating through life because of other people’s perceptions. If you wanna do it differently than the norm, you go right ahead; and leave those who want to do things “traditionally” alone.
(4) There was also a single complaint I saw that said the first film was about Elsa accepting her role as the queen and that this movie just negates it all.
Uh, no? I don’t believe Elsa was ever fully comfortable being queen and I feel fairly confident others would agree. In the first movie she learned to control her powers and became much less uncomfortable with that role because she was no longer constantly terrified that she’d hurt everyone looking up to her and watching her every move. Sure, she came back after she got that pretty big issue sorted out and continued being the queen, but I’m not so sure I would call that acceptance. She was coming back to fill the role that she had been given because it had been given to her, and because it became safe to do so without being in hiding all the time. Elsa wasn't unhappy being queen at the end of the first or the beginning of the second film, but she also couldn't ignore that call because she felt like something was missing. I don't think she ever completely fit as Queen of Arendelle, even if she did a fine job at it.
(5) Someone else said that the people in the enchanted forest could have saved themselves rather than wait on Elsa to come do it for them.
Well. They were stuck in that place without the knowledge that was later brought to them via Elsa. What were they to do before that? They didn’t even know exactly what had happened or why. They didn’t know that the dam was actually a problem; their leader that died figured it out but obviously never had the chance to tell them. They didn’t know who betrayed who or why the spirits were suddenly like, “Nope, go fuck yourselves!”
(6) I stay so annoyed with reviewers who forever spout about political correctness and political agendas in damn near every movie now. They never even explain! They just complain that it’s there and they’re angry about it and that’s that. At least back up your claims with a few details, people.
I had to put some thought into what they could be talking about in reference to this, and sure, okay; but whatever. (My guess is to do with some correlation of those in the modern day being told they’re expected to make up for what their ancestors did wrong to others in the past.) Come on; who is being the sensitive snowflake now? Both sides are constantly on the look out for the other side to be infiltrating all spaces with their respective bullshit and it’s just getting ridiculous. Stop looking so hard for stuff to be mad about and enjoy the story for what it is; not what big, bad thing you can muster it up to be imagined as.
This movie has so many good values and messages packed into it. It validates feeling and showing emotion, for both boys and girls. It shows that it’s okay to and we can have every right to feel angry with someone we love. It showcases both learning to lean on each other and figuring things out on your own. It shows the importance of pushing forward even when things are at their most difficult. It does touch on tolerance and acceptance of others that are different and that are living and experiencing life differently from you. There's nothing wrong with learning and understanding about the past or even resolving to try and "right past wrongs" in some way; if that feels like something that you need to do. No, I'm not saying that any of us should be punished or made to feel guilty for things we personally had nothing to do with. I think any "righting wrongs" like that has to be a personal choice and it's not okay to be pushed onto everyone else around you. But I am saying that I'm positive this movie wasn't intended to sneakily teach your children extremist social justice shit. You're throwing a temper tantrum because magical spirits of nature in an animated movie expected a wrong to be righted. Seriously, stop.
Global warming issues though? Still lost on that one. It must have been very vague.
(7) There were complaints that this needed a more proper villain to defeat, like Hans in the first.
All stories don’t need a villain like that. Navigating through the experience of life is plenty enough without tossing in a bad guy and I think this particular tale is a really good representation of that. Their grandfather did a bad thing, but I doubt that he was just an all around bad person. We all do bad things, some worse than others. His fear fucked him up. I bet he actually thought he was doing the right thing to protect his people; those he knew and understood, from harm in the future.
Also; their grandfather being the one who betrayed the natives wasn’t really another “What?!” (said in Lieutenant Mattias’ shocked omg voice) twist like they did with Hans. We knew it had to be someone on either side who chose to do the wrong, or that it was some wild misunderstanding that happened; which was actually my expectation. Like, imagine that instead of the two characters falling off a cliff because one attacked the other, a character accidentally fell off the cliff and accidentally took the other with him, and others saw it, both believing that the other side had pushed their people; and then the fighting broke out. I guess that was a part of me wanting to believe that none of them had to be the bad guy for once. Hell, I kinda wish they did that.
Anyway. I think a part of what can often make a sequel so good is when it’s not the same story recycled; it’s new! But people can get so hung up on what it was that they don’t allow themselves to open up to also be able to enjoy what comes next.
Some little annoyances and just observations:
(1) Why did the fire spirit need to cool off? It’s cute, but like, the water spirit didn’t need to dry off. It seems like in other stories it’d probably be a problem to allow fire spirits to go out and there would be difficulty getting them to spark and start again.
(2) How exactly did Kristoff expect to propose to Anna when he was standing in the middle of all those reindeer in the woods with his new Northuldra pal? It’s not like either him or Anna knew where the other had gone to at that point. (Oh, it was great discovering that Kristoff isn’t the only one who can hear what reindeer are thinking!)
(3) Interesting that Elsa and Anna recognized their father as a child but not their mother, not right away. Maybe their mother just looked that much different as a child, it happens. Maybe the style of clothes threw them off too. Hell, maybe it’s to do with the fact that their parents didn’t bother to mention that it was their mother that saved their father that day when Agnarr told them the story! I mean, why not?
(4) I don't know if I was the only one but I had a moment where I thought that maybe their parents weren't dead after all, but were stuck in some magical place, much like the natives and the soldiers. Sadly, no, but come on; how awesome would that have been?
(5) I love, love, love the validation of just fucking feeling things; like in that scene with Olaf and Anna in the ice boat Elsa had sent them away in.
(6) Elsa did get warned not to go too far again right before she did, but would she have figured things out otherwise? In reviewing those scenes I believe so; that before that point would have been plenty enough to determine that the dam needed to come down, but how could she resist trying to know the full story? Besides, it was said by the Troll King that the truth needed to be brought to light.
On further thinking about it, I consider it symbolism that learning painful truths can be overwhelming and it can feel like you’re drowning. She was frozen by the gravity of the truth. Setting things right is what set Elsa free.
(7) “I’m here. What do you need?”
Said by Kristoff when he swoops in and saves Anna from being trampled by the earth spirits; it hits me so hard for some reason. I think I’m just so touched by their obvious connection and how quickly and simply he offers his help when he sees she’s in need, even though at that time he had been feeling really disconnected from her.
In conclusion (finally, I know,) I wouldn’t actually say that one Frozen movie is better than the other. They are both bloody brilliant in their own ways. They’re both wonderfully unique in comparison to their predecessors. Frozen set up the stage for Frozen 2 and I’m hella grateful for that. What a fucking masterpiece. Well done, Disney.
Olaf, always bringing joy and comfortable words to my heart.
That was definitely better than the first and glad there didn’t have annoying songs like ‘let me go’
I was very impressed in the effects, Disney have definitely upped them and best I’ve seen since mona and at moments they looked so real.
I loved the storyline, it was lovely and glad to know more of the back story on the characters and as always loved the comedy from Olaf, always puts me in stitches and level of humour from him was better than the first so glad they ‘built’ him for the sequel.
My sister harangued me into watching this...
Not as good as Frozen one. And no real villains.
The film delves a lot into the parents of Elsa and Ana, but does not reveal the reason why they ended up there, in that place, which really led to their death, I think the film left a lot to be desired. Because he was short for the events, it all happened suddenly, besides the movie giving references to Marvel films, which was not surprising. . But apart from all that, the film shows the power behind Elsa, shows the union (in little part), shows a somewhat dark and confused past, I hope there will be a continuation, and that it cannot be delayed.to leave Frozen 3, where she can reveal to us what really happened, that can go back to the past, where Elsa's power comes from, and why Ana doesn't have any skills or power. If I were any,if I were a critic, my score for the film would be 8.9. Disney:registered:
OK, this movie is amazing, all the songs and the magic, and the female empowerment brings joy to my eyes. Is good to watch with family, or alone. And it's beautiful. and the ending? darling, its just perfect.
Its aight, seems like they wanted a happy ending so fast that they forgot to write a better script.
That was 104 easily forgettable minutes.
movie is not bad. kid loved it. but too much music and not memorable, i already forgot the songs lol
best part was when Olaf was telling the story from Frozen. super funny. the rest was good. for me it was more emotional than the first one, almost made me cry at the end after Elsa froze
also there is a end credit clip. in case you didn't know :-)
It's slightly better than the first one, but the story of elemental spirits and water memory made little sense to me.
Best scene goes to Kristoff's 80s pop song.
This movie faces the difficulties of any sequel, they never quite live up to the original. The songs are good, they're beautiful, but they're just not memorable in the same way. It doesn't stick in the mind the same way. The story was good but there's also lots of questions left unanswered. And though it may seem random, my biggest question was about Kristoff. He pretty much met a dark haired clone and I thought. He's from the forest, he must be from the forest, they're going to show his past. And yet, nothing. What was the point of even creating a character so like him if you're not going to follow up on the connection. But, overall it was still good and the kiddos loved it.
Frozen II is a well developed footnote that left me cold.
There were more songs than the first one (not a good thing) and all of them were worse, it was geared to a far younger audience and the secondary story lines were ridiculous frost bits.
Also, Elsa looked terrible. I don't know what girlfriend has been up to in the last six years but whatever it is, it's got 'illicit' written all over it.
Like Ralph Breaks the Internet, Frozen 2 is back for more money. Rather than back with a solid story.
Though I cannot say the film is bad. It has plenty of heart and one or two good new songs. Though I doubt you’ll leave thinking you saw the best animated film of the year.
It also might be too deep for kids as it is. Yet, some are complaining Elsa didn’t have a girlfriend lol.
It lacks the magic of the first film and even though the songs are fantastic there were way too many of them. it's still enjoyable though and I love the characters.
Will You Marry Me
Yes
It's not as good as the first one but it still made me cry so ya
Once again, Olaf stole the show. I can’t imagine the movie being anything of value without that ridiculous little snowman!
The storyline itself was cute. The songs were nice - although, nowhere near as catchy as in Frozen.
Ana needs to rein her neck in and stop ruining Kristoff’s proposal attempts.
All in all, it was a lovely movie to watch on a cosy Sunday after a nice roast dinner!
Riding on the hype train that was Frozen, I was actually excited to watch the film's sequel. I think Eugene from the Try Guys described the movie perfectly: it was more of an anime this time around, with the protagonist coming to terms with her powers by meeting with others like her who have their own elemental powers. Honestly, I'd be lying if I said Frozen II was just as good as its prequel... because it wasn't. While I did enjoy the adventure aspect of Frozen II, it was a bit of a let down for me, especially with the facts that there wasn't much a (physical) antagonist this time around and that the other characters introduced in this film acted as a filler.
Essentially, I'd rewatch the first movie instead of watching this movie. While it was good, I can live without it.
this is me singing just in case it wasn't clear
Beautiful follow-up to the brilliant film Frozen. The story just doesn't seem forced or anything. The music is also outstanding. This is the best as an animation movie gets.
It’s always drives home the question “why” or “what happened” when you see a movie like this...
A nothing movie. All technological advancement meant to impress with no artistry. Theres not a single standout song, a single standout character, and it introduced a topic it is not at all equipped to tackle and whiffs the conclusion of to avoid any consequences or interesting story telling. It’s almost insulting. I’m even more curious about the doc on this movie now, because you can see compromise all over that whittled it down to nothing.
:heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart: - Frozen 2 was a sequel worth waiting for.
My rating system works:
10:heart:- Masterpiece :100:
9:heart:- Excellent
8:heart: - Amazing :ok_hand:
7:heart:- Great :sun_with_face:
6:heart: - Good :thumbsup:
5:heart: - Average :head_bandage:
4:heart: - Bad but watchable :octagonal_sign:
3:heart: - Bad :sob:
2:heart:- Awful :face_vomiting:
1:heart: - Bull Shit
Well, I was not expecting that. I wasn't the greatest lover of the first film in this franchise however I really liked this. I preferred the much darker colour pallet and vibe they went with for this sequel. I also feel like all the songs really fit and had better range then the first film. My two favourite songs from this film however, I feel, will always be, 'Into the Unknown,' and, 'Show Yourself,' though I do now have a soft spot for, 'The Next Right Thing,' after seeing how it slots into the overall story of the film.
This is a really great sequel and has now got me intrigued for what is to come with Frozen 3.
i really liked the first movie. true disney spirit. even the singing was great. frozen 2 disappointed me. the songs are cookie cutter mainstream pop. nothing stands out. left the cinema half way through.
I'm actually surprised Disney would make something like this. Adapting Sámi history and making a Northern Sámi dub? That's not the Disney I know, so I am very much positively surprised and appreciative of their efforts.
In my opinion, better than the first. This is a great sequel that goes deep into the meaning of Elsa’s powers, thus emotionally bringing back characters of spirits like their parents that make for an emotional yet adventurous movie. The ending of the film that brings a happiest of all endings is incredibly overwhelmingly heartfelt. You get a lot of great Ana/Elsa scenes in this film that makes one love them even more. The only negative thing about this film is that the thick of the plot is a little rushed into and there was some confiding mirages when Elsa is on the hunt for “the voice.”
Yesterday I watched Frozen II with my kids. Well, we had done that on several stages. But yesterday we watched the extremely emotional ending. I can't even tell who cried more. My kids or me.
Fantastic movie. :heart_eyes:
This gets a lot of love (even from adults) but I just don't get it. To clarify, I liked the first one, but this seriously needed a rewrite. The story is confusing and muddled. There is no antagonist. There is no motivation for the journey (I need to follow a voice is not a motivation.) and characters gleefully accept the most bizarre twists. To top it off, all of Idina Menzel's songs sound like a ripoff of Let It Go.
Ultimately, I think what rubbed me wrong the most was the science-is-magical sounding "water has memory." I also cringed every time Olaf casually mocks serious philosophy. I think it was an attempt to flesh out his character and make him more than just a buffoonish, ADHD brat, but it comes off as so inauthentic.
6,5/10
H H H H H
Elsa protector of shappics and maker of pretty things
Better than the first, so that's something.
This movie was brilliant! I really liked the animations and the fire spirit reminded me of Toothless (HTTYD). The art style was also pretty interesting (cartoon like characters in "photorealistic" scenery). IMO the story is a nice continuation of the first movie.
wayyyy too much singing. I think 60% of the movie was just singing
One of those shows you put on so the kids shut up while you’re washing dishes.
As it happens with sequels, it could have been better but it turned out as it turned out...
Elsa is the fifth element. Too many songs for my liking.
'Show yourself' is the best song! It's about finding yourself and the lyrics is amazing!
Why should Elsa be a lesbian or whatever binary and confirming?!
Keep her asexual, she is a high spirit!!!
Away from the 'Toy Story' franchise - Disney's greatest animated sequel to date? I believe so.
'Frozen II' is quality. I'd argue 'Frozen' is the better film, but this 2019 production is terrific. It isn't as funny (though still has its moments) as it is a more darker, deeper story. Considering this premise only really exists in this film, it is impressive how well it comes out and pays off. The score is improved, though the musical numbers aren't quite as memorable as 2013's.
All the cast reprise their original roles and are again very good; props to Idina Menzel (Elsa) and Kristen Bell (Anna). Josh Gad remains very amusing as Olaf, there's one recap scene in particular that stands out.
Entertaining, once more. No complaints from me.
I can't be the only one who enjoyed this storyline more than the one in the 1st installment? Just the storyline though, musically and the overall feel of the first move is better in my opinion.
I wasn't a big fan of the first movie of Frozen, but the second one was so much better! Loved the plot, the mocking parts, Olaf summarizing the first movie, the video song imitating the old times. It was amazing.
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Years ago, on Christmas Day 2013, my entire immediate family and I headed to the theater to see Frozen, the movie about which everyone was talking. It had been out for a while; a friend from work told me she and her kids saw it on Thanksgiving. While I had heard the song "Let It Go," and even had the Demi Lovato cover of it on my iPod, I was unfamiliar with the fairy tale The Snow Queen. (I know; what kind of avid reader am I?) The story was engaging, and the animation breathtaking, especially seeing it on the big screen. Since then, my mom and I have often referenced that movie, particularly Elsa's infamous show-stopping number; I would even think to myself about how various people I knew needed to "do an Elsa and let it go."
As big of a success as the first film was, it's no surprise that the House of Mouse churned out a sequel; thankfully, it wasn't another direct-to-video one. How does this one stack up to the original? Well, everything here looks incredible; at times, I felt like I was watching a Pixar flick instead. The story was exciting, and had plenty of twists and turns. Olaf was his usual hilarious self, and Anna and Elsa were likable and attractive heroines.
Unfortunately, the music here fell flat. As a kid, I was always a bigger fan of Disney's live-action productions--Flubber, George of the Jungle, Rocketman, etc.--than their animated fare; part of the reason why was because the cartoon characters tended to randomly break out into song, which I found annoying. I still feel that way to a degree, though I have learned to like some of the tunes from old-school Mouse movies. However, despite many people's annoyance with it, I found "Let It Go" to be rather iconic; I can see why plenty of other artists have covered it. This sequel's music is nowhere near as good. While the singing is beautiful, the tracks here lack the punch of the first film's. Of lesser note is occasional bathroom humor; was that really necessary?
In spite of its flaws, this is still a great movie; it's just not what it could have been. If they make a Frozen III, they need to bring back the style of music that the first film had. I enjoyed watching this over the past week; however, I could have enjoyed it more. Then again, that's a non-musical-fan talking; if you like your characters to break out in song, you might feel differently.
A good family movie, I personally like it more than the first.
If you're gonna have this much music, then you might want to make it good music. Beyond that, this one has decent voice acting and an okay story that does more than just pad Disney's bank accounts, but it all seems tired and uninspired compared to past efforts. It's not quite a phoning-it-in situation, but it comes closer than it should for Disney.
I like this more than the first one.. Only for the sole reason that just in one try of watching it, I didn't fall asleep! Unlike when i tried to watch Frozen, I tried thrice, the first 2 I fell asleep halfway..and was able to finish the film for my 3rd try.
Maybe I'm just too old for this s**t
I liked it even though there are clichés in it. And it was weird to find out that Elsa is the avatar! lol
The story was kinda predictable, but I guess it's just because I'm an adult now hehe
**** Great looking fantasy music film****
First off, the visuals have an excellent use of color and nature. I love that they decided to set this in autumn, which is something you don't often see in animated films. In contrast to the more traditional fairy tale look of the last film, this one is far grander looking. The appearance of the kingdom of Arendelle in this makes the original look so-so.
Frozen II feels so different from any other Disney animated film. There are plenty of those that do fantasy, but this is the first one (except maybe for The Black Cauldron) to go for EPIC fantasy. I really loved the various legitimately challenging magical forces the characters have to deal with.
The story looks into how Elsa (voiced by Idina Menzel) has her powers and I really liked the setup and the messages they were trying to tell. This is actually one of the more serious Disney animated films. (By their standards. Don't worry there's still plenty for your kids to love.) There are a couple surprisingly dark, dramatic moments. (Again, by Disney standards.)
Based on the trailers, I was afraid that comic relief Olaf the snowman (voiced by Josh Gad) wouldn't fit into the change of tone on account of being too light, but the writers adapted the character really well. They have him growing up and being far more philosophical about the world (while still being pure). His musings often steal the show. I actually thought he was funnier in this than the last film.
I did think this movie had some pacing issues. The plot just isn't as tight as the first one. There are moments where the writer didn't know how to best utilize the main characters. I do wish they spent more time interacting with a couple of the film's likable but underused new supporting characters.
Songs are decent but aren't on the same tier as the last film. Half are just okay. The song Into the Unknown tries too hard to be the new Let it Go. Still, I give the songwriters credit for going with a new style not found in previous Disney films. I liked Show Yourself, Lost in the Woods, and All is Found. The last one is a particularly lovely piece.
This isn't quite as good as the original, which knew more what it wanted to be and had a stronger emotional backbone. Still, this has a lot going for it and I think your kids will like it.
My score 7/10.
Its good but not like the first one
I coudent see the movie
Meh, first one was better.
the first one was better this one was kind of basic disney
Anna and Elsa’s story continues in Frozen II. When Elsa hears mysterious voices on the wind she and her sister Anna, along with Kristoff, Sven and Olaf, journey to the northern land of the mystics. The original cast returns and are joined by Evan Rachel Wood and Alfred Molina. The songs aren’t quite as good this time, though there are a couple of standouts; such as “Into the Unknown” and “Lost in the Woods.” And the animation is just amazing. However, at times it comes off as a little overly staged and formulaic, and Disney tries to sneak in some politics that are wholly inappropriate for the target audience. Additionally, unlike the first film, the plot plays to all of the traditional tropes and clichés (good guys turn out to be bad, the past is retconned with new revelations, etc.). Yet while it fails to live up the original, Frozen II is entertaining and a lot of fun.
I think I liked this more than the original. Although I did watch the original in the hospital after a minor stroke.
Okay, I love Frozen and I loved the first one and normally I don’t appreciate sequels but I think this movie was beautiful. I love Olaf, he’s so funny :joy: I got all excited when Elsa took advantage over the sea horse and at the end made it into ice. I loved that! It was meant to be, Elsa on a beautiful frosty horse.
Maybe the only thing I would say was that the songs seemed to be going on forever and when it was getting to the sad or the adventures parts, and you were almost biting your nails off, they started singing and kind of ruined the mood a bit. I know, it’s Disney so that’s what’s expected. But I wish there would’ve been a bit more dialogue than song.
Favourite song: unknown
Wow did that suck. My kids wouldn't even sit through it.
I can’t watch the movie...why?
the animation is breathtaking and the magical themes are wonderful. loved it! + can't stop humming the siren call now lmfao
how can I turn on this movie
Remember how each Toy Story got better as it went along? Frozen is going another way. Every Elsa song felt like it was reaching to be the next Idina Menzel anthem, but the other songs didn't even try. The story was muddled and a puddle of goo. Still, the animation was beautiful...if you can manage staying awake for it.
Colour me special, but I enjoyed this one more than the first, songs included ("Into the Unknown" is excellent — Idina Menzel's rendition of it, not Panic! At the Disco's). It has a refreshing story with better original ideias (the "villain" concept of this movie, for example), better fleshed out characters and feels more emotional. Olaf's humour has been honed to perfection, every second he's on screen is a delight!
The movie is by no means perfect, unfortunately, as there are a lot of "huh?" stuff happening through it and the ending fell a bit flat, not delivering that big bang of epic emotion the rest of the movie seemed to be preparing for.
Still, better than the first, for me, and my little niece loved it, which is the best kind of approval this movie could ask for :blush:
"Can't recapture the showstopping feel of its predecessor."
More songs than expected and I felt like a lot of the singing was like a poorly inserted music video in the movie to pad the runtime. Coughkristoffcough
Animation style nice as usual and characters are very emotive. Animated magic wa as quite cute. However the fire spirit was a pointless extra cute thing as Sven content was reduced. I liked the dark, moody tone and the resolution of their plotlines but I didnt really like how it ended. Didnt feel like it was that long.
Good back story...but omg way too much singing!! It’s like they were trying to almost make this into a musical. And no good songs either.
It was fine. The story was okay... it had its funny and memorable moments. The songs were alright not as good as the first’s songs. Overall it was a good sequel to the first and looked amazing in animation.
(6 out of 10)
Review by Anto ButeraBlockedParent2020-02-11T15:28:25Z
This is, without a doubt, a movie very much for the adults. Just listen to the songs. They're songs belonging to a musical, not an animated movie with princesses that sing (take, for instance, Kristoff's power ballad or Anna's cave song). I really don't think kids will like the music in this one very much. Also, all the talk about growing up and the fear of things changing. I feel like those are not the concerns of 7 year olds everywhere. And don't even get me started on the girls' physical looks. They even looked grown up.
It's a stunningly beautiful movie, particularly the last bit from "Into the Unknown" was especially captivating to me. And during the opening how they showcased how Anna has always been a hopeless romantic, while Elsa was the more sensible sister. I think my favorite bit, however has to be Olaf's Frozen recap. It had me laughing throughout!
I'm just sad the movie won't be as huge as the first one, since given the subject matter it's nowhere near as appealing to kids, and the songs aren't really those instant hits that burrowed their way into our heads, and had us all humming "Let it Go" for months.
I still love this universe Disney created, with these strong, independent, brave sisters, and so I really hope they'll continue to make more movies.