For an explanation of her powers, it's like the writers were trying to figure out how to get as close to the Inhumans as possible without it actually being Inhumans.
This show has so much heart! You have to be predisposed to hating anything that isn't classic Marvel to not enjoy this. Moon Knight was breathtakingly beautiful and way out there story-wise, but I didn't latch onto it the way I've taken to Ms. Marvel.
This is how you take characters and stories that are new to the Marvel pantheon and get people who grew up with the Silver Age heroes and more traditional storytelling to care about them as much as Captain America or Iron Man. This is the kind if energy the entire MCU needs going forward.
better. we're moving away from the high-school drama i don't care about and into the mystical aspects that intrigue me
Really nice third episode. Got important answers and information for Kamala's powers, the plot moved forward by establishing who the villains are, and the first major action scene was done pretty well and felt fresh. Also had some good character moments for Bruno and the cultural elements and style continue to pop off the screen. My favorite episode of the series so far.
The introduction of the Clandestines feels a bit sudden and poorly explained but other then that still absolutely loving the show, that dance sequence was great
continuing the family love and immigrant story... just loving this so far... wish the origin story was related to the eternals somehow (giving that movie some meaning)
PS also hate people that don't take off their shoes when entering someone else's abode
PPS cool cameo from Sana Amanat!
to good a bad guys in a second kkkkkk that was fast...
haha brown jovi, very clever
Should all shows have dance numbers? Yes they should.
I loved the Livin‘ on a Prayer fight scene. Overall a solid episode but a small step down from last week in my opinion.
Tell me she has Mutant genes without actually telling me she has Mutant genes.
That was a lot of song and dance to avoid saying Inhuman. Shame she only had half the episode to think they were trustworthy too. All seemed to move very fast but I suppose we just hit the mid season mark.
I really like Kamala but sometimes her dialogue and delivery come off exactly like Kate Bishop in Hawkeye. Which is a shame coz she should have her own quirks not someone else's.
This is really making me wish they went the Inhuman way
I still don't know why they didn't, considering inhumans are canon in the MCU already
You don't need to fist fight a jinn . Just Falaq and Nas them they be flyin
Kinda not a fan of the emerging villain plot this ep, but everything about Kamala learning her superhero way and her immediate circle of family/friends is still great.
I'm sure they will connect somehow to a inhuman origin but not using the inhuman name
[8.0/10] Easily my favorite episode yet. I love how introspective this one is. The whole thing is basically a meditation from Kamala on whether her superheroic activities are helping or hurting people. Throw in her brother’s wedding and the lavishness and spectacle that comes with it, as well as the peril of the villains emerging, also bumps things up a notch.
I’m struck by the Imam’s words: that good isn’t something you are, it’s something you do. After the good mix with the bad of last week’s rescue, Kamala isn’t sure whether she’s a force for good or not. Authorities are hassling people at her Mosque, including one of her best friends. Her actions are drawing more attention to “brown girls in New Jersey” which is exposing them to more scrutiny. And she’s not fully in control of her powers yet, to where she’s not sure whether she’s doing more harm than good.
Yet, it puts into focus how, in every major time Kamala’s been able to summon her power thus far,it’s been to help someone, a need that seems to focus her abilities. Whether it’s saving Zoe from a tumbling prop head, creating a platform for the kid dangling from the minaret, or going on offense with someone who attacked Bruno, an innocent person in danger gives Kamala the juice she needs to do her best with these powers, something that speaks to the inherent goodness of what she’s aiming to do here.
Still, the self-doubt is a good and endearing look. Questioning, something other than pure certainty and confidence, makes us sympathize with characters. Particularly for a sixteen year old girl who’s still figuring herself out more generally, the notion that she’s not quite sure what to do with these powers or how to deal with the difficult choices presented to her makes Kamala easy to warm and relate to.
There's also lessons about relying on family as a resource. This whole episode is a tribute to the richness of the community and close kin Kamala and those close to her lean on. Her mom’s speech about the difficulties of coming to America is incredibly humanizing and her emotional support for her daughter, despite their difficulties, is incredibly sweet. Likewise, her dad’s overheard comments to her brother about how family provides support and something to rely on, even when you’re still finding your way, lays the groundwork in an admirable fashion as well.
Plus, I just love everything about the wedding. The vows are adorable. The little chats and bits of gossip and family advice and explanations of traditions and rituals is also engrossing. Plus, we even get a fabulous dance sequence! The joy in all of this is infectious, and the way even the wedding is a mix of cultures (replete with the younger relative of Kamala’s sister-in-law wearing the Pakistani Hulk outfit). The whole thing is delightful.
Until the bad guys move in of course. I didn’t realize that our feds here were Damage Control, This is the first we’ve really seen them since Homecoming, and I like repurposing them here. The racial profiling cotninues to come with a certain resonance (the scene where Nakia and the Imam send them off unless they have a warrant is cheer-worthy), and they make for another center of gravity in the show apart from the more magical antagonists.
That said, we do meet the “Clan Destine” here. The mythos works well within the context of the show. The presence of Jinn, exiled from their home dimension, desperate to get back however they can, creates a mission and a purpose for the group. The fact that their leader seems nice to Kamala at first, but is actually insistent and villainous, is a predictable turn, but an effective one. And even though Kamran isn’t the best performer on the show, I like that he’s an actual seventeen-year-old (phew) who’s on Kamala’s side, even against his own mother.
Plus damn, we get some good lore hints here! I seem to have had it wrong last week. It seems like Kamala’s great grandmother is the one who had the Nur powers, who probably used them to save Kamala’s grandmother, but at some great cost. I imagine it’s great grandma who’s sending Kamala images of herself and of the train from the family legend. It seems likely that the Clan Destine leader did something to threaten or otherwise do harm to great grandma, and the prospect that Kamala’s grandmother knows something’s up and wants her daughter and granddaughter to come to Karachi is exciting.
Overall, this is the best episode of the show so far, full with great character moments for almost everyone, some great sequences, and the biggest dose of Kamala’s culture and community yet.
I actually considered the setting and characters entertaining and decent enough. But the conflict with Damage Control first and now the Clandestine escalate too fast with too little reason.
They should have given the characters more time to grow and the plot more time too develop. Instead we got another example of a series failing in pacing.
We are liking it more than we expected because of the tone it has
Really enjoyed how they talked to the agents :clap_tone3:
I only just realized after hearing the guy read the story of the Jin’s that when someone gets power they always show the person trusting the very first person that knows they have it. They never thought they could be bad people or bad group. Hoping the Jin’s aren’t bad but I’ve yet to see a good Jin so.
Yup i was write the Jin is bad and want to use her for selfish reasons
“Absolutely not” :joy:
How did she disappear from in between the broken table cloth? :man_facepalming_tone3:
Man this show is so good, i did not expect the fighting scenes to be so Good. Great chronography
6/10
Best episode by far of the season. Which
is not a high bar to jump, but still
I really can't stand that mother, every scene she's in she drags the who atmosphere and the show down. She always looks like she’s sucking a lemon after finding out someone's shit in her bed.
Highlight of the episode
livin on a prayer.
Shocker their bad, never saw that coming.
Djinns you say, sounds like
a job for the Boys.
I'll call
Dean and Sam.
It gets worse. It's kind of hideous cultural appropriation here, taking all sorts of sacred concepts and making them into bog standard Marvel rubbish. Now I know how the Shang Chi critics felt.
Seemed like a missed opportunity that Kamala didn't think of reciting surahs to get away from the djinns. That's what you're taught first in a Muslim household against fighting djinns.
Less cool than other episodes but still holding my attention
“MS. MARVEL: DESTINED”: AN OPINIONARY
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It's interesting to see the backstory to the bangle that gives Kamal her powers - it's slightly different from most origin stories we've seen so far and brings a historical aspect to Kamala and her powers. This episode also establishes a connection to other dimensions, a running theme for this phase. The deepening of the backstory is vastly different to anything the comics have established but brings a stronger connection to Asian mythology and religion.
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Iman Vellani continues to shine in the lead, and this episode allows her to explore a more contained and adult side of her character, as she has to feral with the fact that she has a secret identity that divides opinions among the general population.
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The high point of the episode is the fight scene in the kitchen, accompanied by Bon Jovi's Livin' On a Prayer, and forcing Kamala into her first real fight.
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Destined continues to develop the central character relations and keeps its focus on family and friends, but the narrative feels slow and there is a lack of a palpable threat or a build-up to anything, as we follow Kamala rather than her alter ego.
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The mix of cultures, colours, stunts and visual effects work quite nicely, even if I still find it sad that there's less of the visual quirkiness established in the opening episode.
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A lot of the structure and style in this series feel mostly very familiar - this would all be pretty generic if it wasn't for the MCU and Pakistani culture connections.
Shout by whos_ur_buddhaBlockedParent2022-06-23T00:54:23Z
Brown Jovi…hahahaha. Livin On A Prayer, perfect song. And so Jersey. Love it.