THE ILLUMIN-AUNTIES HAHAHAH YEAH.
Anyways I liked this second episode and much better than the pilot ep. I love how they address the oppression of women in their culture, esp those that they (Nakia and Kamala) are experiencing. Plus they are doing something about it. Go Nakia! Anyways I did not expect the ending of this ep tho. The plot thickeeeens...
Incredible episode once again, I really like Nakia's character
Another really enjoyable episode. Some good touches on Muslim culture and family here. Really enjoying the family interaction, even if it's light on family. Iman's performance is electric, with the dance number being a real standout.
Bruno: "I like Baazigar."
Nakia: "My whole life I've either been too white for some people or too ethnic for others."
Mr. WIlson: "You're the lead character. I'm Meryl Streep."
Nakia: "You wouldn't kill our dreams, would you?"
"Somebody help him!"
Man: "Yo! It's Night Light!"
Kamala: "You good?"
Kid: [Terrified.] "...Yeah."
Woman: "Kamala, I've been waiting a very long time to meet you."
6/10
What a fun show! I didn't like the trailers leading up to the release, but the first two episodes really surprised me!
Illumin-Aunties woulda stop Wanda dead!
also... NAKIA 2022
Soundtrack is tight. Very tight.
It’s kitschy for sure but it genuinely makes you smile.
..and I’m learning about what the British did to India too? Fun and educational!?
This episode lost me until the very end.
No one has a house like that in Jersey City with that massive pool. Just saying…
“MS. MARVEL: EPISODE 2”: A COMMENTARY
:white_check_mark:87% :thumbsup:20 :thumbsdown:3 = Great!
Here we follow the aftermath of the events at AvengersCon and how that affects Kamala and the people around her - I particularly like Kamala's newfound confidence and how he explores the extent of her abilities with Bruno and (to a lesser extent) Nakia. The episode also handles Muslim culture and society in a lighthearted but respectful manner, which is probably relatable to other Muslims and understandable for the rest of us. The most interesting part of the plot comes in the form of Zoe's interrogation with the two nosy (and, frankly, suspicious) officers - this is surely setting up the main threat of the show.
The narrative kind of stops dead halfway through and then doesn't do much in terms of plot development during the rest of the episode.
Iman Vellani is fabulous; her love for all things MCU pour into her performance and she owns the show in every single scene. Nakia popped up in the opening but appears in more of an extended role here, so we get a good feel for her and her relationship with Kamala, and girl is she full of attitude! Bruno remains funny, awkward and a bit cute. Kamala's love interest Kamran is treacherously charming with his British accent, and I wonder whether he's going to end up being some sort of a villain. I love Kamala's dad, as Mohan Kapur makes him very likeable.
The obligatory "new hero exploring their powers and trying to figure out where they come from" part of the plot is handled in a swift and fun way so that there remains time to develop character relations and other plot strands as well! This is very much an episode focused on teenage life from the MCU's standpoint, so it remains very true to the comics. Kamala's teenage crush is unusually well captured; it makes me happy as well! Even if there isn't something happening, this series remains interesting through the characters and their engaging conversations - but the rewarding moment is the climax, during which Kamala becomes a hero!
Is it just me or has the quirky visual style of the premier been toned down a bit for this episode? It's a shame because it sets this series apart from other projects!
Ms. Marvel's powers are something of a mix of her comic powers and Susan Strom's force fields, and I'm not entirely sold yet.
Overall: episode 2 continues the strong characterization of the series in a pretty traditional narrative, slowly building some kind of a conflict to overcome.
Random Observations:
Mom: "If it wasn't for Slippery when Wet, we would never have met!" xD
[7.6/10] A lot to like in this one. Kamala getting a new lease on life after receiving her powers is a cool thing. Her newly confident strut through the halls of high school, cute romance with new kid Kamran, and chance to use her powers for good on purpose instead of by accident make this a nice coming out part for Kamala as a hero and more self-actualized young individual.
I’m also a fan of the hints that there’s a familial angle to her powers that the bangle unlocks, rather than creates. The hints that Kamala’s grandmother was similarly powered, via old family legends, the potential ways in which that hurt or caused problems for her great grandmother, and the shame and dismissal Kamala’s mom feels about the whole thing makes for a strong intergenerational angle to the mystery of Kamala’s abilities.
It’s also nice to see Nakia fleshed out a bit more. Her running for the board of her Mosque to try to rectify some of the seixsm there is a nice engine for the subplot and character beat to help give her more shading. Her writerly but effective speech about being too white for some and too ethnic for others, while ultimately just wanting to be herself, is all kinds of endearing. And the shenanigans with her and Kamala identifying the various power groups and their community with a plan to win them over to their side is fun.
I enjoyed Kamala’s flirtation with Kamran. Obviously, there’s some extra intrigue by the end here with the reveal that Kamran knows she’s “Night Light” and his mom seems to have insights into her powers. But it’s also just plain adorable seeing her sing and daydream and gush over the fact that the cute boy likes her. There’s a poetic irony to the fact that Kamala is bucking up against the expectations of her culture and community a bit, but finds herself drawn to somebody else who is of it and understands it, making it easier for her to connect, much to the chagrin of poor Bruno.
The closing adventure is a nice beat to end on. What I appreciate about this show is, in large part, it could work without the superhero stuff. There’s a lot to enjoy about simply seeing how a young Pakistani-American girl navigates her family and the different communities she’s a part of. But it does the superhero stuff well. The montage where Kamala trains to figure out her powers shows how tender footed yet determined she is about all this. And a poor kid dangling from a high windowsill is a good first rescue for her, showing how she can help, but also how these visions or bits of cosmic interference pose risks when he’s in the middle of her masked adventuring. There’s a lot to unpack there.
Last but not least, I’m also intrigued at the hints we get for what the government agents are doing in pursuing Kamala as an enhanced individual. Roping Zoe into it makes for a nice way to have the thing Kamala’s jealous of turn into a liability, and the racial profiling that takes place (and the male agent’s reaction to it) adds subtext to the pursuit.
Overall, another strong outing for the show, that still has a clear voice and plenty of flavor and texture that makes it enjoyable and unique on a scene-to-scene basis.
I like her super hero name of "night light" better than ms marvel :joy:
Was that a reference to the McPoyle roof scene from Always Sunny…this show is painfully cringe
Lol the dude getting out the pool looked like he starves hisself :joy: that was suppose to be hot?
I dont know if i can continue to watch this if the moms going to have too much lines. Shes annoying
So you didnt see the Porsche stop and drive off? Lol:man_facepalming_tone3:
naks' bathroom monologue was so powerful
stan nakia, i love her so much
This show is doing a better job at creating an emotional conntection with characters than any other disney plus show so far (with the exception of maybe wandavision)
I'm getting a major CW vibe ; I hope we can get more action eventually.
I appreciate the way that this episode develops Iman's character. It gets personal with her family relationships. She's shown to have desires and normal teenage whims. This episode portrays some rather positive aspects of Islamic culture if which many are unaware. Not many have imagined what goes on in a mosque during Juma. How many know about the partition or why it exist. This episode developed several characters and allows us to relate to them more easily. The end leaves you seriously wanting to know how, who and why.
Cute believable girl as Ms. Marvel. Even when the show is slow it’s still entertaining.
I did not expect a Marvel show to make a serious attempt at critiquing sexism in contemporary religion, but here we are.
Not as good as the pilot, the directing was a lot more plain, but still pretty entertaining.
I think this is a real failure for Marvel Productions. Trying to reinvent a character just to change the genre. It does nothing but push the day in and day out life in the Muslim community. It has nothing to do with the original storyline or character base.
5/10
Agent P Cleary
Did his
Spider-man
no way home
Thing that he did to Ned to get him to talk the same as he did on the girl, that was cool, I love the attention to detail.
I can't stand that mother
Horrible just Horrible,
I hope she doesn't have much more screen time,
Can't stand her at all.
That ending
Oh okay then.
Everything but the superhero stuff outshines the superhero stuff. It's all central casting south Asian stereotypes but the direction and verve makes it more than it is.
I've given it a whole extra point just for IlluminAunties, which is inspired.
This power set will be really fun once Kamala gets a little more advanced. Her surrounding cast continues to shine with what they are asked to as well.
Both episodes would have been 10 out of 10 if not for... superhero parts. I don't know how, but humour works way better when it's about mundain stuff.
Muslim stuff : i love it
Indian cliches : awesome
But I can't stand that teenage vibe. I feel like watching Mr Bean.
Worst Marvel show ever for me
I already liked the pilot but this second episode was again an improvement. The characters are great, and the actress who plays Kamala is perfect for the role. Overall a lot of fun.
Hard to be threatening while wearing a sweater vest over a turtleneck, I'm looking at you DODC lady
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Found this episode to be pretty cheesy but still I can appreciate what they're doing with the show. The visuals once again are unique and cool, and I like the cultural elements and themes they're bringing in. Iman Vellani continues to give a convincing and impressive performance for this being her on-screen debut. Even though it's not my favorite show so far I think it's doing a decent job with what it's going for.