I've been Benson & Moorhead-ed good (and appropriate that they cameo this ep). Season's first half feels like the duo's works at their more frustrating side, but these last two have been the parts I liked best about their works; this week's ep opening minutes especially is so playful and tantalizing, right down to touches like the title sequence's letters eerily blipping out or Loki timeslipping in sync with a car-place tube man's movement behind him. Also, between EEAAO and this season, I could listen to Ke Huy Quan enthusiastically talk sci-fi mumbo jumbo for hours on end.
I thought ep 4 was the peak but this ep just surpasses the previous ep.
Ke Huy Quan is such a king
I see what you're doing, show. Having Loki become a master of time travel who turns toward the camera while emphasizing the line "it's WHO". I see, and I am amused. I like how this not only explores who our main cast were before their lives in the TVA, but it's a meta examination of how you can't just recapture the allure of the past without it literally unraveling, and also how the absurd impossibility of fiction is just as essential to science fiction as the science. A really inventive and rich episode. And so many jet skis.
The usual concept of unity being strength, which has made Marvel the giant it is now, and is slowly crumbling. This episode, taken individually, is one of the best-written, best-directed, best-performed things in the last two phases. I mean, even better than a dozen movies.
“This isn’t how I thought this scene was going to play out…”
If Doctor Who, Control, and Legion had a child, it would be Loki. This episode was perfect.
Sheeesh ! That was one sick ending :fire::fire:
Loki at its best. Can't wait for the finale.
Is not about where when or why,
It's about Who, Doctor who,
Wait what !
Top notch cinematography but lackluster narrative nonetheless. I suppose one can pause and take it in for a bit before everything goes back to shit.
Loki having his Infinity War moment was just insane. But I feel like erasing timelines is much worse than erasing half of all life. The scene at the bar was special and the vinyl shop scene felt incredible anxious and mind-bending in the best way possible. Science/Fiction is easily one of the best episodes Marvel has ever done and one of the best moments in the entire MCU's history.
Fucking finally!!!! The first GREAT episode of the season. I would be pissed it took 5 episodes for this season to actually get good but honestly right now I'm just basking in how good this episode is to be bitter. A tightly written well placed plot. Time travel/sci-fi logic that is seamlessly explained, makes sense and is logically consistent. Actually well explored and thoroughly rendered character work. The plot building off previous episodes as a natural extension to the conflict established from episode 1. Genuine deep meaningful pathos. I've hoping and praying and begging this show to do even a couple of these things so to get all of them all at once in one excellent fucking episode is like Christmas came early.
They better carry this momentum into an excellent finale cause I'm actually invested now
We spend entire series watching and waiting for the one episode or moment that just wows us, and it sneaks up behind you without being noticed and suddenly there it is. I was steeling myself for one hell of a deus ex machina, a typical Marvel gotcha, and instead I got to watch Mr. Anderson become Neo. ...and I think it really works and has some amazing potential for the MCU going forward.
The storytelling (the writing, the dialog), the music being creepy and glorious at the same time, this is the finest episode of Loki thus far and it lives up to its namesake by setting a new bar for the genre within Marvel.
It took me a moment to get it, but the reason Sylvie remembered Loki is because she ported out of the control room before the shockwave hit. Watch her panic as the McDonald's branch timeline unraveled in front of her, then suddenly go into cold, in-control mode and just leave it all behind like it was nothing (because now it literally is nothing). I wonder if that exception is going to play into future events, even after Loki "corrects" the way things play out at the TVA.
Great episode! When Loki finally understands how to control it, felt like a Matrix moment “He’s beginning to believe”
i wish the series was more like this episode
[7.4/10] Silvie might be my favorite character in Loki, if only because I tend to agree with her. Loki himself is leaping across the multiverse, trying to get the band back together so he can restore the TVA. But it’s not clear to me that's a good thing. It’s not clear that it’s better for Mobius and B-15 and the rest to be pruning the timeline rather than parenting their kids or helping treat injured children. It’s not clear that what the TVA does is good or that having multiple timeline branches is bad. It’s not clear that simply leaving everything alone and letting the multiverse be the multiverse is a bad thing.
That makes it a little hard to root for Loki here. Like so much in season 2 of this show, the logistics of how this all works is nebulous at best, and what the TVA is or does post-He Who Remains is pretty vague too. The dimensional consequences of the organization blowing up, or Loki skipping through time, or the variants being returned to their timeline doesn’t come with weight, since it feels like the show has been screwing around with apocalyptic event after apocalyptic event in every episode.
And yet, Silvie cuts to the quick of it. She asks Loki why he wants to do all this, and the answer is simple -- because he wants friends. Whatever the TVA represents to the universe, or to the “sacred timeline”, or to the ongoing battle between good and evil, to Loki it represents a place of belonging, where friends like Mobius saw something in him no one else did. Whether the TVA itself is good or bad doesn’t really matter, because a simple scene at a dive bar in Oklahoma shows why it matters to Loki. That makes his quest easy to root for.
Admittedly, the “getting the band back together” material is good. O.B. as a begrudging decorated theoretical physicist who does groundbreaking science to pay the bills for his sci-fi writing career is adorable and endearing. Mobius as a water sports vehicle salesman and overwhelmed single dad with a carnival barker’s flair is an amusing persona for Owen Wilson to play. And Casey as one of the famed Alcatraz escapees, who’s inclined to use the temp pads to rob banks, is a hoot.
Again, there’s a lot of nonsense mumbo jumbo to all of this. Why Loki needs to gather this particular group to get their “temporal auras” to go back feels arbitrary, and the whole “going to a place that doesn’t exist outside of time is impossible but you already did something impossible feels like a handwave. Once again, the mechanics of all of this is a big mush.
But the simple task of getting everyone together, putting the pens in the cup, is a good one. Seeing Loki slip through time, figuring it out as he goes along, being drawn to the people he was with when it all went wrong, is a good way to sell the impact of the temporal loom blowing up.
This is also the best visual outing the show’s had to date. I don’t know why, but I just love the imagery of the end of the world manifesting itself through everything turning into silly string. It’s stylistic and striking in the best way. Watching the group disintegrate, Infinity War style, right when Loki gets them all together, has a bitter poetry to it.
But the peak of that visual approach is Silvie listening to her record in Oklahoma before the world falls apart. Something about the coffee spilling onto the counter, the strands of broken time cracking the window, the clerk running out to her with an outstretched hand, the record itself breaking down to nothing in a stringy ballet, leads to some beautiful and moving images. Silvie is stirred from her contentment by the fact that, good or bad, without the TVA, these branches, her branch, is dying.
I don’t know how I feel about Loki’s realization that with the right focus and emotional energy, he can channel himself backwards along the timeline. It works on a metaphorical level. He’s used to being an object in all of this, an antagonist, a secondary character, but now he has the power to write and even rewrite his own story. And to the script’s credit, he achieves that in a moment of emotional distress and eventually clarity. So there’s something earned about it.
But the power itself feels like a bit of a gamebreaker. The whole “that’s not science; that's fiction” routine is a little too cute by half for me, with its extension of the metatextual motifs the show’s been toying with from the start. And I’m a sucker for this stuff, but Loki’s “It’s not the why; it’s the who” is a little too trite, sappy, and meta for my tastes too. We’ll see where they go with it all.
Overall, certainly one of the show’s stronger episodes, one that gives Loki his clearest motivation this season, and which includes the show’s best sequence thus far. Onto the finale!
It just keeps getting better and better with each episode.
Easily the best D+ show and one of the best if not the best D+ episodes.
Loki don't disappoint us with this time power you have now, I just hope you bring back Timely.:thinking:
The bar scene might just be my favorite scene in either season of this show.
I hope he returns timely, the way it happened everything seemed good to me but things are missing.
That's much better. Yes, much technobabble, but essentially it's the start of moving away from this ridiculous TVA plot - and I really liked all the alternates' lives. But it's really time to add some much needed heart and emotion to this show.
8/10
Great time
hoping episode
and we finally see
everyone before.
My theory is
Loki created
The TVA maybe
by recruiting everyone
that would fit for the
Crazy Batshit Shenanigans
of this season.
I'm just glad that
it's now the season finale
and I can finally see what
The ENDGAME of all
this is.
really surprised at this episode, it finally got somewhere watchable. The show has done very little to justify getting here (are these people friends?? Do they know each other?? Besides loki, mobius and sylvie), but the emotional/fictional logic of "it's all science fiction, and it's fiction, so you need to work on the whys of why you're doing this" while the world spaghettifies makes way more sense than anything they've done so far
“With science, it’s all what and how. With fiction, it’s why.”
Very gripping and interesting episode. Looking forward to the last episode of this season. :thumbsup_tone1:
Very gripping and interesting episode. Looking forward to the last episode of this season. :thumbsup_tone1:
I've enjoyed Episode 4 and 5 a lot - it was a struggle before that. Only Marvel thing I've enjoyed prior to GOTG Vol 3.
God of Stories!! I love this show, the one saving grace of the MCU.
don't think too much about the time travel, i stopped and it feels better now
man this was actually the better episodes yet
Loki teach me to like jet ski!
Somewhat interesting, Alcatraz was cool, mostly I'm still confused and I wonder if this show needs more explanation or if I keep missing information.
Shout by The_ArgentinianBlockedParent2023-11-03T17:33:51Z
So, this was basically a rehash of the ending of Infinity War.