Gaal and Raych's relationship is soo rushed and doesn't fit right in this early.
Ok I'm gonna say it: I think the technical and visual magnificence are a bit covering up for the show flaws - and there are.
As it was said, Gaal and Raych's relationship is rushed. They were barely introduced to us (and to each other), and there was almost no build up if not for some glances previously. They have good chemistry but the pilot showed us the background and characters, these 2 people barely interacted and in the first scene of 1x02 they get romantically involved. Easy there.
Dr. Seldon's actions this episode are too called upon: that scene in the laundry room, pep talk and hand shaking did seem to fit a Remember the Titans rather than Asimov. The canteen one called for some issue with Raych, and it was completely sudden in its behavioural shift in the two characters dynamic up to that point..
I also get the feeling that they're playing a little bit on the mystery part, allowing themselves to be sloppy on some character development holes or plot leaps - hiding them in between things we don't understand yet.
On a positive note, the Trantor/Emperors storyline got more solid and insightful into their way of thinking and struggle to deal with all that power and what comes from it.
The impression is that by now it's too big of a "universe" to already be at that point in the story (meaning: maybe some larger introduction would make the viewers more comfortable in that world and with the characters).
There's a reason why many attempts to make an adaptation from Foundation series have failed, and CGI or changing characters' gender isn't gonna solve them.
The relationship between Gaal and Raych is way too romantic for characters we don't yet know and care about.
The best moments are the ones happening on Trantor, especially the interactions between the Emperors.
As Asimov said:
"The easiest way to solve a problem is to deny it exists."
Wow, just wow. Every second of this show just keeps getting. Better & better. That ending! What the Fck?!
When the first episode is promising, and the second episode leaves you wanting more, I'd say someone is doing something right. There's always something to nitpick about when you know the books as well as I do, and it's by no means the same as the books, but that doesn't really matter. I'm just glad that more people than ever will know this universe.
Looking forward to more...especially if they can keep the high quality of the first two episodes.
Aside from the final 10 minutes, I felt this episode was definitely a step down from the previous episode.
I’m glad to see some people are liking this, but to me, it’s all over the place. At least the plot is seemingly developing rapidly but the acting/chatacters are all ..well just ‘off’ somehow.
I don't really want to be a "that's not in the book" guy, but honestly, if you are going to stray this far from the original stories, why not just come up with something entirely new? Did the creators of "Foundation" think that there was a huge, built-in audience of Asimov's books? Is that audience of any size at all? And if so, why would that audience have any respect for the way that Asimov's tales have been hacked up? And the kicker is, I haven't read all of the "Foundation" books because space politics are kind of a yawner for me. I'm having a very hard time believing that fans of the book would even watch this show.
Why take a series of books so massive, trim them down and cram them together until barely recognizable (except for its character's names), and change genders of many of its characters so you can establish love interests between them? Just create a new story already! This is just more evidence of laziness of not having to come up with something original from Hollywood. Which of course leads to more scavenging and changing literary accomplishments at the behest of popular culture.
I'll give this series credit for being visually attractive and points for Jared Harris, but that's it. I'm pulling the plug on yet another currently running show. I tried.
Asimov’s Foundation is just a distant memory at this stage. They’re hiding a terrible plot behind some (actually wonderful) visuals and vague references to the books. It just feels incredibly wrong to me. I’ll sound melodramatic but I’m stopping here. Too bad, I will read the books a second time.
Overall, I did enjoy the show. Mostly because of the Emperor's plotline. It's like this show has an A and B plotline. A is about the Emperor and B is about the foundation. A is interesting and B is boring. The emperor plotline has character development, intrigue, politics, and moral dilemmas. On the other hand, plot B has a lot of 'magic sci-fi' elements that dont' really make sense and the overall arc is pretty boring.
Compared to the first episode, this is just straight-up bad - it may as well be a different show. The storyline with the girl is just not interesting, and gets rather annoying at times with her 'boyfriend', whereas the story of The Empire is much more fascinating and entertaining to me, and is where the show should focus IMO.
Dean Thomas needs to be hanged. It’s gone be hard af to find her again if they kill him.
It's good that the creators plan 8 seasons of this... so, we have all the time to figure things out and enjoy a long run. Hope apple doesn't kill it early.
Really liked this episode. My only issue is that they seem to play loose with the numbers. One small bomb can cause that much damage? 100 Millions? That just make's it unbelievable. If it was that easy why there was not more? Especially at the end they didn't have a starkiller that could destroy a planet with one big laser. So numbers should matter, it should be hard to do things and it makes it more believable.
Honestly, I still enjoyed this episode... but it was quite confusing at the same time, especially the events on the foundation-ship: Gaal and Raych's relationship seemed rushed, Raych's problems with Seldon and his attack on Seldon and his sending Gaal away. All this because Seldon's calculation are showing a complete picture? This could have done with lots of more fleshing out.
"Liked" the sequences with the empire-trinity - Day's cruelty, Dusk's apparent decline, Dawn's question to the android Demerzel - and what's her agenda?
Obviously things are falling apart from the plan as well as Empire but that last bit made no sense. They need more backstory to justify it.
Bad script for this episode, irritating, silly and illogical :(
I liked the first episode better though naturally after the cliff-hanger ending I will have to continue watching. The ending was a bit shocking as Raych kills professor Seldon apparently for no other reason than that he had humiliated him in front of other crew during the meal in the cantine? During the episode, Gaal and Raych seem to be in love but after she discovers him murdering Seldon, he puts her into a capsule together with the murder weapon and ejects the capsule from the spaceship so maybe he was just using her and wasn't really in love with her? It looks like she is going to die in the capsule but maybe not since she is the main protagonist? Meanwhile it turns out that the mysterious woman accompanying the three empire brothers is in fact an android (apparently the only remaining one according to what she talls Dawn), whearas Day shows mercy to the ambassadors after executing some NPCs. I am not familiar with the novels so most of the events are quite surprising to me.
And it's not for me:zzz:
What... what just happened...
I'm so confused with where this is going, but in a 'I don't have the brains to figure this out' kind of way. Two episodes in and the series is already getting really good.
Shout by CondemnedBlockedParent2021-09-24T18:44:09Z
I liked this episode more than the previous one. It expands on everything the previous one laid off while also giving us a little taste of the force of The Empire. I really liked the "interrogation" scene from a technical point of view, that back and forth was great.
I believe it is safe to say that at some point what happened 35 years ago is going to connect to the present.
And what about that ending? I really want to see were this is going. I guess I'm hooked ahah