I don't really know what to think about the second season of "The Witcher." The episodes from 1-6 were not masterpieces but they were quite good, especially when they used elements of Sapkowski's books and hinted at the matters only the book readers can catch, it felt promising that maybe we would see the story taken from the novels this time, but the episodes 7-8 ruined the show totally, so I have no idea how to evaluate the season as a whole. It was constantly hinting at more book elements and never delivering them. I must say I am rather disappointed and in hindsight it seems to me that the best episode this season was the first one, which was a relatively faithful adaptation of one of my favourite short stories by Sapkowski, "Grain of Truth", after that everything was slowly going downhill.
For me season 1 was better. It’s not bad but it also had no highlights. Ofc there are people rating 1/10 and calling this the worst show of the year. But we all now for some guys there are only 1 and 10, nothing in between.
And the title of most improved since season 1 goes to...
This season was an actual improvement in my opinion. As someone who has had no previous experience with The Witcher, meaning I never read the books nor played the video games, Season 1 was kind of a confusing introduction.
Thankfully, Season 2 was a step up for me. They dropped the non-linear storytelling (not that I don't like it when it's done, I just don't think Season 1 did it very well), Geralt gets a personality upgrade (thanks to Henry Cavill insisting) and the story feels more coherent.
Season 2 also allows for some great character interactions, special shout-outs to my new favorite Dad and Daughter duo Geralt and Ciri, as well as to best frenemies Yennefer and Jaskier.
New characters are introduced and some of season 1's are better developed (like Triss and Cahir) and there is some real payoff to what it set up throughout the season.
I still have problems keeping up with all the characters and their names though. The show still has a feeling of "too much is going on" but at least coherence is given this time.
It was an overall really good season, I enjoyed it way more than it's predecessor.
If season one was a mostly enjoyable adaptation of the books with some creative interpretation, this season was a high budget fanfic. Viewers who haven’t read the source material might still enjoy it, but for those who’ve read the books you’ll probably be as baffled as me about some of the changes they made to key characters/story arcs/relationships. Obviously some changes need to be made when moving from print to screen but (without spoiling anything here) several key moments this season were so fundamentally different that it’s hard to see how they’ll tell the Witcher story faithfully in future seasons.
The Witcher S2 was really, truly just okay. I'm not sure if it's because I didn't understand/watch the recap of the previous season or they were just throwing random things in this season expecting me to know what they are even though I played the games. I will probably watch S3 when it comes but I suspect that I'll feel the same way after finishing it.
Maybe I don't like this series as much as I thought I did?
Edit: Read Lineage's comment for a better understanding of the season overall.
[Netflix] While trying to correct the narrative mess of S1, the development of the story remains weak, supported by horrible dialogues and a script that is as lazy as usual. To the point that they need to create an episode as explanatory (and boring) as "Dear friend ..." just because they are unable to have clarity in the narration. It is a frustrating series for its good possibilities, weighed down by the showrunner's inability to bring Sapkowski's rich universe to the screen.
season 1 was a 10 for me. this one is just 5. too much yapping. not enough action. no naked hot chicks.
I don't even remember much of what happened throughout this season, specifically the first few episodes: besides Cirilla's training at Kaer Morhen, pretty much. There's so much jumping, back and forth, between things, most of which seems so nonsensical now. So much of it dragged out, tedious, and boring.
And for over three weeks, I've been watching through this season, starting with the day it came out. You'd think that would help with engraining a lot of what happened throughout it in my head. Yet because most of it was nonsensical and because nothing much truly happened, just a whole bunch of nothing masked as a whole lot of everything, I'm having trouble remembering what I remembered more clearly after each episode.
Given the source material, I imagine the writers had no choice but to "expand" the world through so-called "worldbuilding" and the introduction of new characters, and so on. The problem lies in the execution. More specifically, the people themselves doing it and their expertise, or lack thereof.
And the structure/editing was weird at times. One instance: for the first three episodes, Aretuza and its inner workings are somewhat a focus. Then, after the third episode, that aspect falls off the face of the Earth until the seventh episode, where you're suddenly tossed back into that pond and have no choice but to accept the vagueness and ambiguity of it all, which isn't clever: it's unimaginative, weak writing.
Not only that, Yennefer's story arc with her struggle, alongside the somewhat shared story arc with Fringilla and Francesca involving the Deathless Mother/Voleth Meir, and the separate story arc with Fringilla and Francesca/the elves in Cintra felt convoluted and didn't make much sense.
Giving Yennefer that struggle didn't make much sense: there was more unnecessary vagueness regarding how it happened as well. The resolution didn't make much sense, either, on top of it being cheap.
The whole Deathless Mother/Voleth Meir thing was the weakest part of the season; a huge chunk of the season, and it was meandering. Logic itself seemed to dislike it, which impacted it a lot in a somewhat negative way. And it was uninteresting and tedious as well, for the most part.
Fringilla's story arc with Francesca and the elves in Cintra was boring. There was also barely any focus on it for most of the season until it's in the spotlight suddenly, giving the impression that the writers somehow expect you to care about all of it.
One thing that was a clear improvement was the production value. The showrunners/producers/or whatever seemed to learn how to use the money for this season. More money than any of us will ever SEE, let alone have, is used for this show, and it hardly looked like it in the first season. But I guess there's a whole lot that goes into the creation and production of movies and TV shows, especially this one. Barely any of that looking super obvious in the first season is what's mind-boggling.
Something that went hand in hand with the production value was the cinematography. It was a clear improvement as well. Some specific shots stood out, like the one in the premiere with Tissaia and Cahir with the moonlight through the window: the one in the third episode at the beginning of the scene where Vesemir and Geralt left Eskel's body to the wolves; of the lake and the background before it flipped over.
The practical effects mixed with CGI and the VFX throughout the season were pretty good; much better looking than in the first season. I think the camera used to film this season played a huge part, as well. The technical aspect was done better, on top of being enhanced even further by the better-quality cinematography.
The soundtrack practically felt like it was non-existent. It's not like there wasn't a soundtrack; there was. For the first two or three episodes, then it decided to leave. And, yes. I know "Burn, Butcher, Burn" was in the fourth episode. The only two scores that I liked, which also happen to be the only memorable ones, were "Power and Purpose" and "The Pendulum." The soundtrack was a massive downgrade in this season.
The fight choreography was good, I guess. I don't think there was much action in this season. That's how nonsensical the season was. I don't even remember how much action there was. The fight sequence against Rience's accomplices is the only instance that comes to mind. I thought it was cool: and decent, but the choreography could've been better. Generally, the action this season was decent yet lacking.
The writing was a bit weak for a lot of the overall dialogue. At times, some of it felt worse than the writing of the plot. Those instances may not have been the entire dialogues, from beginning to end, only parts. But they were poorly written and a bit annoying. Rather than being written based on quality, it's like it was, instead, written based on what your average viewer consumes most, therefore likes/prefers, while simultaneously trying to capture the interest of the people who "matter more."
The writing for the plot is a whole different story. It was nowhere near as good as some people may say it was. When something so obviously could've been done better, you're doing something very wrong. The same thing also applies to the plot's writing regarding what I said at the end of the previous paragraph.
This season had improvements while simultaneously being worse than the first season. If anything, the showrunner(s) and writers deserve credit for pulling that off.
I feel like wishing and believing the next season will be better is a slippery slope, given how this season turned out; the first season, too, in a lesser sense: and how much better both could've been. I wouldn't go as far as to say that I'm wishing and believing the next season will be better, but as long as the entertainment is still there, that's good enough for me, even though it'll be disappointing that what we get could've been better.
Another great season of The Witcher. If you love the first six seasons of Game of Thrones you should like this.
I personally enjoyed this season quite a bit and I felt that the buildup and that the surprise at the end was very well delivered but the one thing that's still on my mind is whether or not Monica and Chandler have had sex or not.
While talking about character and character development, seeing all the characters from season one and the new ones and how they interacted was smoothly put together. The story is run at a good pace and you understood the characters relationships. Jaskier is my personal favorite and I really enjoyed the scene when he told Monica and Chandler to get a room.
And of course, I'm glad that Ted lied and that his wife made the big announcement herself rather than Chandler's mom and now their little daughter, Ciri, is gonna grow up knowing that it wasn't her dad who cheated.
I rate it 9/10.
Would have been a 10/10 if Gordon and Jaskier had more screen time.
It felt like a walk through the park. Nothing special but not bad either. To bad we have to wait a whole year for the new season.
While I was quite lost in season 1, I absolutely enjoyed season 2! The scenery and in lesser measure the intrigue kind of reminded me Game of Thrones (the good seasons..). The plot is fluid and entertaining. On top of that at times it can be quite funny. The bard is simply hilarious! And even Geralt has his good moments. I really liked this season and I’m looking forward for season 3!
I expected more from this season... kind of dissapointed with such a easy end for season to be honest
6 was my vote
Better acting (even ciri), more and good dialogs, better linear story telling, better cgi, less singing :D
Cant wait for third season
(Never read the books)
Pacing was fine, as expected (since the source material for this season is an actual book and not several short stories) the timeline isn't as confusing anymore.
I don't like some of the changes they made, so I will give it only 9/10.
The actors are good and while some of the characters look nothing like they should they still feel the same, so the added diversity didn't hurt the story which is what we want to see!
I only wished the seasons were longer, so they would fill more than a day.
This show is the best thing in Television right now (with Yellowstone being a close second).
There isn't a single character in this show that doesn't stir some emotion in me ( aside from the ones in Ciris dreamworld maybe ). And yes, it is also important to have characters you can hate :) .
I can't think of a single other show where this is the case.
I am so happy to write a positive review for once - TV has been really crappy the last 2-3 years...
The second season of The Witcher is a lot better than the first.
This season season showed off better production value, but ended up being even more slow-paced than the first. I am sure they could have told the same story in a couple of hours. While "vertical" self-contained episodes like the first one were quite fun, I couldn't care less about the overarching narrative. At times it was hard to follow the plot and grasp the characters' motivations because they would keep changing for random reasons. Or maybe I should say, the show fails at keeping you focused long enough to keep all characters and lore details in mind? Surely not going through this one more time to get the details.
The second season of Netflix's "The Witcher" has gotten much more positive reviews compared to the first one, which I had rather mixed feelings on. Seeing this trend and being a big fan of the series, I decided to continue with Season 2 and see what's up. To that I will say that the most glaring of Season 1's flaws have been taken care of, though the show still struggles with some things I will cover in more detail.
"The Witcher" wants to be one of those series that wants to stray away from its source material and have its own identity, except that it stays in this weird area of being about 60-70% loyal. It follows the general plot and characters, but the changes that are made never serve to give its own identity and are only confusing. They are not all bad, but those other examples still exist. My biggest gripe has to do with some of the character writing, an aspect that requires more work yet. Ciri being one of the lead characters, with a role about as major as Geralt's in the tale, should not be as mediocre as she is here. Frankly, I just cannot get behind Freya Allan's performance, and I am not sure if I am to blame her entirely. Perhaps it's direction, perhaps it's the writing. Perhaps it's all three factors. Ciri is a charming brat with a lot of personality in the source material. I don't buy any excuse for the portrayal here, for one simple reason - she's boring. Indeed, she has seen a major improvement from the previous season where her entire character boiled down to a screaming machine that was chased about all the time. In fact, she even has many charming moments here. Not enough to capture just how great the real Ciri is however. They also seem to be constantly avoiding the tomboy part of her personality for some reason, one I can maybe only explain as a weird attempt to avoid comparisons to Arya Stark from "Game of Thrones"? Comparisons which would be ridiculous as Ciri predated Arya by several years, but never mind that.
A big shout-out to Henry Cavill for being the greatest strength of the show. He's the perfect casting for Geralt, and with some behind-the-scenes info given, the greatest asset all-around as a fan of the series.Joey Batey comes straight after him as one of the best actors of the series. His eccentric performance steals the focus of any scene he's in, a statement that completely disregards how strong his emotional scenes are as well. One in particular sticks with me still - the conversation they have with Yennefer in the ship about losing one's talents. I like Anya Chalotra quite a lot as Yennefer, and while she differs from who she is in the books, I honestly enjoy seeing this version. Chalotra is able to carry out the sass, aggression, and bottled up emotions of the sorceress. Her plotlines sometimes fail to deliver their reward, but I have to admit they were entertaining and I enjoy seeing this vision of who she is.
A big issue with all of these fantasy adaptations I have has to do with both the studios and the fanbases of respective series. Clearly, everyone is trying to find the next "Game of Thrones". People denying this are wilfully ignorant, a kind of naivette I find obnoxious, but understandable. Media newslets won't shut up about how much each show compares to GoT. They are not GoT - so why do they keep trying to be? Yes, there are differences, but the strong focus POV characters, politics, and death scenes directly opposes the true spirit of the Witcher. Sapkowski can suck off Netflix all day if he wants to, guess he found something in common with all those prostitutes he wrote about. He screwed his deal over on the games, I can see why he is salty, but those truly understand the strength of his material, and even are able to improve on this. Netflix's "The Witcher" continues to double down on the epic elements of this tale, which were never its draw; the down-to-earth moments are what give it its soul. There are more of those moments thankfully, but they still feel insufficient. Episode 1 was great altogether, but goddammit, the campfire scene at the end where Ciri and Geralt's relationship shined - Cavill was the one who pushed for it.
We get a bigger focus on the witchers here, an interesting choice. One that dabbled with its quality. The idea to develop these characters more than in the books is solid, but the execution fails. Lambers is an annoying prick, that much is accurate, but I found his attitude written poorly a lot of the time. Vesemir was more flawed than his book counterpart, a bit of an unbelievable trait, seeing as he is supposed to carry much wisdom. Still, I found his portrayal solid otherwise. Eskel suffered from a major writing flaw, one I need to delve into spoilers to discuss. [spoilers]The person shown here has nothing do with Eskel, who wasn't an all that major character in the books. Fine enough, but why would you make him such an obnoxious edgelord the viewers are actually supposed to care for? It is only after his death that we get a glimpse of the brotherhood between him and Geralt, something that should have come beforehand.[/spoilers]
Cahir is someone I enjoy seeing more of, his arc takes on a lot of turns and I like that. Istredd continues to thread into the story, something completely different from his limited role in the books. I like that. Elven lore is exlpored further here and I found it quite engaging.
The fight choreography was great here and improved on from the first season, one of many common complaints they improved on. Similarly, the CGI has seen betterment, though there are still weak spots that are beyond apparent. The finale was where I was able to be genuinely impressed, I will give this credit in particular as it is due. There are no "experimental" timeline shenanigans here, the plot is fairly straightforward.
And before I finish this, the music remains good.
Season 2 greatly improves on its predecessor, but still suffers from an attempt to make the Witcher something it is not. Overall, I enjoyed watching this and hope the series continues on an upward trajectory. If you're looking for something engaging to watch, give this a shot, but it's by no means essential. The quality is a lot more consistent, I'd say I was hooked at about episode 4, and the first episode was great as well. Some weird decisions bring it down, but altogether, a step in the right direction.
I miss Geralts grunting in Season 2 lol.
Really finding this series boring....... Gonna force myself to finish the series but I'll probably not bother with newer series.
A big improvement over season one. good story telling. While the season one was complete mess. This season was better from every aspect. Things were making sense. Decent explanation. So yeah. endure season one. Then enjoy season two.
Shit just got real enjoyed it more than No way Home !!
I have not completed the last novel but to me story seemed to have veered of the novel but it was better much better than i expected
I thoroughly enjoyed this season ; as it has more linear progression of the story and characters has great development after the ground work thats been laid in season1.
After 2 years even with covid ; the production value hasn't dropped
Finally... yes something to be excited about. Just in time for UK lockdown Xmas 2021!
Mostly meh with a few good moments, but also lots of cringe. If you're looking for a faithful adaptation of source material, this isn't it. This season has almost nothing in common plot-wise with the book it is based on. It's a butchery of the source. The first 7 episodes are fine, but episode 8 is truly awful and the worst episode of TV I've seen this year.
The downgrading of the show on this season was painful
Boring as F! Nothing like first season!
What a horrible way to treat some of the most interesting, Arthurian-inspired source material. It's all written for you!!! Don't write your own crap. Offensive to book fans. Incoherent as a stand alone.
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Fewer monsters, less action and no messy timeline. I say this season is at least as good as the first. Personaly i think it´s better. The main characters are really good this time. Wish they would just talk more and be honest. How hard is that? Yes. This is me talking as if they´re real. It got to me. I really liked it. Go watch it.