what a great fucking show!! loved it so much for it's diverse viewpoints and no higher understand by the writers leaving it upto the audience to take sides like in IRL there is no black and white to situations and people make decisions based on what serves them best at the present influenced by their past determining their future. over-all this show was LIT!!! 11/10
LOVE THE THEME SONG ❣❣❣
I really did NOT need to actually see Armond shitting...
A good finale. I guess I did wanted a bit more of black and white in this show. The portrayals are great, the satire is good, but I think it needed just a bit less, just a bit less, of gray areas. Like, don't give any triumphant tone to a finale where all the rich people get away with everything.
Just to clarify, I think it's a great way to end, in a sour note, just make that sour note a bit more obvious (focus, soundtrack, etc), and not end with the liberating tone of the white kid going for his dream.
At first, I thought it was gonna be an "And Then There Were None" situation. Because I thought it was deliberate that each guest's stay was unsatisfactory; Tanya not being able to book a massage, the newlyweds not getting their suite in addition to Armond's persistent avoidance and incompetence which felt malignant and deliberate. Mark and Quinn Mossbacher trying to find an activity to do on the island and finding out they're all booked or unavailable at the moment or something else. I don't know much but it all felt deliberate to me like someone was set on ruining the guests' vacations.
Honestly a bit disappointed it wasn't lol. That would've been interesting and fun to watch.
On the other hand,
Armond was a scumbag and he got what he deserved.
I'm not trying to justify Shane's actions; HE IS an entitled, pampered mama's boy after all. But if Armond had been honest and upfront from the beginning and admitted to him that he double-booked the suite, refunded the money, and tried to make it up for the couple, things definitely could've been different.
Not to mention that he STOLE from one of the guests. Doesn't matter what he stole, it matters that he did. Untrustworthy.
Tanya was definitely in the wrong getting Belinda's hopes up, but to be fair, she's been a wreck, and eventually ended up doing what she thought was best for her mental health, to break the cycle of destructive habits.
Belinda was honestly an ass when she rudely refused to help Rachel. I mean, you didn't have to offer to help her in the first place! Plus, Rachel has also been struggling her whole life and she was trying to fix her mistake. Just because she married into a rich family, that doesn't make her a bad person who couldn't use some help??
I know Belinda was devastated during the time Rachel reached out to her, BUT SHE FUCKING OFFERED TO HELP? Just because someone hurt you doesn't mean you get to take it out on others.
Not to mention that Belinda was obviously taking advantage of Tanya, seeing how she was mentally unstable. Belinda wasn't interested in her at all but as soon as Tanya mentioned the business thing she started ass-kissing her.
Proud of Quinn though! Good for him.
I'm happy for Nicole and Mark, I hope things stay good between them.
On another note, Paula was fucking stupid to pull that stunt and ended up fucking Kai's life instead of helping him. I mean yeah white people did steal his land and all but that doesn't mean it's alright for him to steal from anyone JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE WHITE AND RICH? Enough with the stupid generalization
It was a finale, alright, but somewhat underwhelming on all fronts. The fact that Shane really was the killer like they aluded to at the very begining isn't even the main problem. Is Rachel's "realization" supposed to be due to "tough love" or what? Nicole only needed a "manly man" to come save her from a life of independence and fix their marriage in one fell swoop. And of course Paula is the only guest that suffers some form of consequence for her actions, and I mean the fact that she's really stuck with Olivia now.
It all makes up good satire but it's all too real and fatalistic, which I didn't expect from the build-up.
I loved the ending with one exception:
I wish Rachel had had the strength to actually leave Shane.
One of the best shows I've seen this year, certainly the funniest even though it's not a comedy.
I like the way it ends on a messy note reflecting real life.
Funny show, but the characters were all the most obvious of stereotypes, the plot was paper thin and relied on utter stupidity far too much, especially the big death, which was very stupid indeed. I loved the scenery and the dialogue, but at no point did it risk rising above a 7/10, which is weird for an HBO show. And the best character is dead for the second season.
What a great season of a great show. Love Mike White! The characters felt so real. I was really hoping Paula would be the one to die. Maybe get pushed out of the boat. Yes they are all (mostly) terrible people but what she did was just beyond terrible. I loved that most characters showed no growth. Most shows would have that growth across a season but this felt more real. The teenage boy obsessed with games and phones was the exception there and that was great to see. Yet the parents barely noticed and didn’t support his newfound motivation to actually do something productive/worthwhile. Rachel grew a little too, making the hard decision to leave the marriage so soon. I really don’t know how she managed to make it to the wedding. How didn’t she see how much of a dick Shane was before getting married? That’s the only part that felt a bit unrealistic. I felt sorry for Belinda though not surprised. I loved the other comment here that mentioned how Shane can’t let things go/gets obsessed with things (the wrong room booked) and love the idea that he will be the same with now having killed someone. I hope that haunts him for a long time. A good actor. I hope if I ever meet him I don’t feel like punching him haha.
This show was brilliantly paced, the final episode resolved every storyline in a really satisfactory way and injected meaning and through-provoking themes through a well-crafted narrative. I couldn't really ask for more, I'm cautiously optimistic for season 2
HOLY SHT! Ha that was insane! That person was on my list of possible victims but I never imagined it went down like that!
So who do we think won in this Armond vs Shane conflict? Cause yeah Armond is dead but Shane is gonna have to live with the fact that he killed him! and if this series does something is literally show us that white rich americans are good at moving on from inconvenient stuff BUT we also see Shane’s flaw is holding on to stuff and throwing a tantrum like a big baby, so he’s never getting over this, Armond is gonna hunt him down in his nightmares, so if you ask me Armond won! I hope that gives him peace in the beyond
I loved this show so much, I loved that it was subtle but captivating, and like some of the other comments mentioned it focused on the gray areas, and I love gray areas cause that’s life! I’m always complaining about shows being so focused on right vs wrong but that’s so unrealistic! Like with Tanya and Belinda, did Tanya owe Belinda to become business partners? :asterisk_symbol::asterisk_symbol:Nope:asterisk_symbol::asterisk_symbol:. Did Belinda have to be so compassionate, helpful and go out of her way to help a guest? :asterisk_symbol::asterisk_symbol:Nope:asterisk_symbol::asterisk_symbol: and she should never (unless they are in danger) cause that isn’t her job. Was Tanya in the wrong getting Belindas’s hopes up about a business? :asterisk_symbol::asterisk_symbol: Totally:asterisk_symbol::asterisk_symbol: Was Belinda kinda trying to take advantage of a clearly mentally unstable woman? :asterisk_symbol::asterisk_symbol:Totally!:asterisk_symbol::asterisk_symbol: So I loved how this show makes you have an internal debate about who or if someone’s in the wrong.
What I didn’t love of the show was that sepia filter! I hate when filters are used in shows/movies; and I feel like Jennifer’s character didn’t interact that much with the other guests, she just had the boat scene with Shane and Rachel, but she was missing a connection with the Msomething family. Also I would love for Tanya to come back in the next seasons and that’s totally realistic cause we know her relationship with Greg isn’t gonna last so she’s repeating the cycle, and she’s gonna come back but this time with his ashes. Oh and for next season I hope Lani comes back too!
I wonder what happens with Quinn, my guess is the family don’t even notice he stayed till they arrived to California? (I think that’s where they live?) so then the parents go back to get him and then they make a deal about him coming back next summer or going with them to that one trip but then coming back and finishing high school, regardless I love that he had this grow as a person and found this new love to life! I’m envious of him!
And I guess the one thing didn’t make sense was the Msomething family booking a single suite instead of booking a two bedroom suite, so the parents had a room, the girls another one and Quinn could’ve slept on the sofa bed, we know money isn’t an issue (but I guess this was on purpose for plot purposes)
Great final! can’t say I’m shocked by the death but makes sense and glad Quinn got that ending so looking forward to the second season
Great finale. I'm satisfied with how all the stories concluded.
What an interesting show. Didn't think I'd enjoy it like I did, but I did. The ending is somewhat true to tone for the rest of the show, and it was fitting that all the rich people go on with their lives while the poor (regular) people are the ones who suffer. In different ways too, being cheated out of an opportunity, being killed for trying to mess with the rich, or being forgiven but somewhat ignored. The worst offense was Shane, that since he's rich and giving Rachel a stress-free life and basically pulling her up to his level, he's right and she's wrong - and she should be okay with putting her identity aside for the sake of their marriage. That's really bad man...Rachel deserved better but it's realistic that not all relationships are equal and sometimes people are afraid to push back because of the consequences. All in all, a bittersweet ending since the rich people got good stuff going on like a rekindled family and an actual relationship in McQuad's story. But the regular people suffered for it. And the one good character, Quinn, is out there living his dream regardless of money, power, gender, or race.
It would be weird to have a 2nd season - but there probably will be one.
Very enjoyable first season and the finale was good but could have been better in my opinion.
In the end, it's business as usual for these filthy rich people lol. Quinn had the best arc. All of Tanya's scenes can be removed, and nothing of value will be lost.
While I enjoyed most of the ride of the season, I feel the last episode didn't delivered the heights it built up to. And yes, seeing a man shit didn't have any point imo. However, I'm late to this party and I heard the second season is better than the first, so I'll roll with it.
I liked the overall message that everyone ends up where they belong, whether they like it or not. Probably not such a bad message after many years of toxic positivity that was crushed in the face of reality.
Not as good as I wanted. And I totally got disappointed with how they made me believe the bride would die and she didn't.
It was certainly a show. Not sure why it is getting all the hype. Maybe that's what season 2 will bring
that was so insane
he deserves to be in jail, idk how he is not
at least the manager died doing what he loved and with a smile :)
you know what? good for him
Wow, the way Rachel woke up. I haven't been that upset in a long time. Greg's coughing concerns me. Is Shane gaslighting her? Oh, are we being real now? This is what pre-marital counseling is for, right? Poor Kai - should have stuck to his instincts. Aww, Nicole trying to tell Olivia how to be a better friend in the moment - I like it even though it's all going to end soon. No, Paula don't drop it in the ocean! I wish Rachel's mom would call back. I suspect that Olivia is more messed up than manipulative, but what do I know? Oh poor Belinda! At least there's something? Agreed that it's not the same. I thought Armond's music would end with Pattons' arrival. Shane needs to give his words time to sink if they're true... I don't know how to fix that either Shane. Why are the blinds open again still? Greg- thanks for telling Tanya the truth. I'm glad Paula came to that realization and admission. Ohh, Belinda and Rachel are in bad places. Rachel, call your mom again. I don't hate that it was accident anywhere near as much as maybe I should. Jennifer is ultimately doing what she was going to do in the dream - hurray! They made a connection with him, I agree it wasn't strong enough. Quinn, please finish school online like you said. Quinn said they would be sorry. For Rachel, at least there's all the therapy and career coaches that she could ask for.
Rich white people will be rich white people till the bitter end I guess :disappointed_relieved:
Very good show! All the actors plays quite well, the musics are interesting (not used to this kind but I liked it). The pictures are also beautiful. Well done HBO
Yeah, I pretty much hated the entire show and at the end, all we got was rich people getting away with everything and them killing off the one character I actually liked. I feel like there are much better shows when it comes to the kind of discourse this show ignited from gender hierarchy to patriarchy, capitalism and whatnot.
And in the end, rich people get what they want
Great show
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Armond deserved better. Season 2 should have Shane getting testicular cancer.