The way Luther's eyes widened when Sloane called his moon mission cool hahaha, yeah she's perfect for him
The people complaining about Vanya transitioning to Viktor should probably just stop watching and spare the rest of us. It doesn't take away from the story, the show's literal creator embraced it, why can't that be good enough?
the amount of transphobia in this comment section is absolutely disturbing and sad. y‘all hating on elliot and/or viktor should be ashamed of yourselves.
A decent way to handle Elliot's transition and the Vanya/Viktor character.
Thing is about Elliot, he never did look comfortable in his own skin. When he did make that announcement in 2020 suddenly it made so much sense to me why. I like how they wove that into the show. Viktor's conversation with Allison felt very authentic. I bet that was emotional for the actors to film as well.
Also, do we think the ball of energy in the basement is tidying up the paradoxes?
Yes, Elliot Page transitioned, but after his coming out he said he'll continue to play Vanya.
Don't understand the need to have Vanya transition too. It does nothing for the story and it was completely half-assed. Short hair and a new name. That's it? Come on.
I think this was a very respectful way to handle the transition of Page and his character. They didn't make to big of a thing out of it but gave it some time in the spotlight. Good job!
Vanye became Viktor a little half assed. I expected a less lazy CW explanation than Vanye just realizing she was always meant to be a boy. So she got a hair cut and boom.
I knew it would be hard to explain but I expected a better explanation. Otherwise it is still a fun show. Despite that bad writing.
Alright, I know I am probably alone on this. I know it’s not incest, they aren’t actually related. But Luther x Alison was weird as fuck, they were sneaking around trying to bang each other while talking about “their sibling” and “their father”. If you are going to make them a thing, don’t make them view each other as siblings! And how that relates to this episode (and apparently those to follow) is me by default disliking Luther x Sloane. It’s nasty and feels like the same thing. (Because in my mind, alternative universe but they are all still kind of sort of siblings, ya know.)
And because I see Vanya/ Viktor being such a hot topic here. I hoped he would keep just being Vanya once Elliot came out, not going to lie. But Vanya transitioning to be Viktor was handled very simply and briefly, which is how I prefer my LGBT characters at this point. I am sick and tired of the woke agenda always taking things too far and just preaching instead of treating them (us actually, lesbo here) like normal people. Sexuality and transitioning is not a personality trait, stop treating it as such. The brothers reaction basically being “yeah, cool. Anyway —“ was refreshing lmfao.
So, not only did they not have the same life, they even do not exist in this timeline. Along with a lot of the other babies, according to the numbers given in the first episode, so there might be more to it.
As expected after the first episode, three annoying points checked out.
Luther + Sloane, ok, she's even less his sister than Alison, but come on...
Vanya became Viktor, though that was done much quicker than I feared, now it's done and we can go on with the story.
Alison and her daughter that does not exist. This one might still get worse though, since she wants to change it.
The world's a better place. No apocalypse around. But no, she wants to reset it to get her daughter back. How stupid, selfish, and actually evil. Of course, things are not that alright since the energy ball is doing weird stuff. But she doesn't know that yet.
Diego's kid turned out less annoying than expected though. Is his ear leaking a power ?
Not clear on Alphonso's power. Diego keeps hitting him without effect. Is it just while directly touching the flesh ? (Why doesn't he show more flesh then ?) It also works at a distance with the knife, which means it's not a direct action/reaction response, and it can even identify intent, since it can target the person that threw the knife (and also cut his pants by the way). Which is contradictory with the fact that punching through clothes does not work.
Thankfully Klaus is still funny and Five is still a pure delight, and the main plot is interesting enough, that more than counterbalance the annoying parts.
The energy ball keeps expanding its action radius.
Is nobody noticing all pets disappearing at once in a several kilometres radius ?? Like, in the tens of thousands of people there, there was absolutely no one with their eyes on an animal to see it disintegrate, not a single person ? Really ? There should have been hundreds and it should have immediately made the news.
In the opposite way, the article about a weird series of brain haemorrhages (supposedly linked to their mothers' and other similar babies' mothers' deaths) is totally disproportionate since it would only be a few dozen people all around the world. How would that even qualify as a remarkable event ?
The old guy seems to have powers.
The power dynamics between Sparrows keeps getting stranger. Theory: Is Christopher the one really in control ?
A bit weird to call out the grandfather's paradox here. Since technically they don't even have a father, and they did not take any deliberate actions that could prevent their birth. Also the paradox is a though experiment describing a situation that can't happen. There are numerous ways to solve it, one of them being an alternate timeline, which is very obviously the case here. So it really seems like only a cheap shot at using a pop culture reference that people probably have already heard about relating to time travel.
The weirdest part of the episode is zero comments on Diego's new haircut from his siblings!
Also is the car supposed to hint at a small differences with the previous reality or... is that just right-hand drive car?
Vanya's name choice always bothered me. Vanya is short form for Ivan, which is strictly male name. Unlike let's say Zhenya. Like Evgenia Medvedeva and Evgeni Plushenko both would be called Zhenya regardless of gender. Either source material was too lazy to check or maybe it was tongue in cheek homage to long tradition of misgendering (Natasha Romanoff) or given strangest name combinations to foreigner characters (Lev Andropov). But now... It almost feels like a destiny for that character) Why didn't creators pick Ivan as a new name through? Oh, well. Didn't know that they gonna write the change into his character. I, personally, would have cut the exchange between Alison and Victor right after haircut comment.
Speaking about agendas... who the hell wrote a kid into this storyline? Who keeps shoving kids down our throats in our campy shows, huh?!
Was it just me, or was the ball of twine just not very impressive? Welcome to the party Viktor!
The passenger - Iggy Pop
I am a passenger
And I ride, and I ride
I ride through the city's backsides
I see the stars come out of the sky
Yeah, they're bright in a hollow sky
You know it looks so good tonight
I am the passenger
I stay under glass
I look through my window so bright
I see the stars come out tonight
I see the bright and hollow sky
Over the city's ripped back sky
And everything looks good tonight
Singin' la la la la la la la la
La la la la la la la la
La la la la la la la la, la la
Get into the car
We'll be the passenger
We'll ride through the city tonight
See the city's ripped backsides
We'll see the bright and hollow sky
We'll see the stars that shine so bright
Oh, stars made for us tonight
Oh, the passenger
How, how he rides
Oh, the passenger
He rides and he rides
He looks through his window
What does he see?
He sees the silent hollow sky
He sees the stars come out tonight
He sees the city's ripped backsides
He sees the winding ocean drive
And everything was made for you and me
All of it was made for you and me
'Cause it just belongs to you and me
So let's take a ride and see what's mine
Singin' la la la la la la la la
La la la la la la la la
La la la la la la la la, la la
Oh, the passenger
He rides and he rides
He sees things from under glass
He looks through his window's eye
He sees the things that he knows are his
He sees the bright and hollow sky
He sees the city asleep at night
He sees the stars are out tonight
And all of it is yours and mine
And all of it is yours and mine
So let's ride and ride and ride and ride
Singin' la la la la la la la la
La la la la la la la la
La la la la la la la la, la la
Singin' la la la la la la la la
La la la la la la la la
La la la la la la la la, la la
What's a TV show without a woke episode or 2. like we get it, he is no longer a female. but why make that such a huge focus on an episode??
Even though I applaud that they were acknowledging the transition of Elliot Page in her personal life, the way they tried to implement it into the show was at least underwhelming. It felt artificial … somehow disconnected from the story and rushed in a way. A bit more plot to the transition to Victor would have helped immensely to ease it for the viewer. But given the fact that this emerged from the actors personal life I feel it’d have been hard to implement no matter what, still I believe the way they chose to do so left big room for improvement…
Diego and his son are great together
So there's Viktor. Tbh I'll miss Vanya but Viktor will hopefully be as cool as Vanya or even better.
All of those cows disappearing was fun. #5 really doesn't get a day off... :o
Sloane and Luther are cute <3
I don't know what it is, but this show just does it for me. It's so damn charming!
Grandfather paradox, huh? That's the mystery second to the fire ball yet connected.
Shout by LuciBlockedParent2022-08-11T15:42:40Z
A lot of these comments are talking about Vanya changing pronouns and name as if she died, like y’all do realize Viktor is the exact same character from the previous seasons? Nothing major has really changed. I liked how casual they treated his coming out too, it doesn’t always have to be this huge thing. Very refreshing.