I was expecting a lot more Herogasm but aside from that, this episode was amazing!
this was the best episode of the boys so far, it felt like a season finale! the Billy-Soldier Boy-Homelander fight was everything I didnt knew I needed! and Annie now is fucking done with the bs. I cant wait for the next
Most solid episode of the season so far. Nothing extraordinarily amazing, but it's just The Boys at its best like in the first half of Season 1.
What I like the most is that everything that happens leading to the climax in the Herogasm is just frantic, chaotic, a lot of stuff happening at once, unplanned, unpredictable, and consequently, tragic. Just a lot of things coming out together at the same time, including the tying up of loose ends of plot points (e.g. with A-Train's demise and his conflict with Hughie).
The episode keeps the comedy and jab at corporate speak intact, but does not overdo it so we get straight to the crux of the matter. From Homelander, Starlight, Kimiko/Frenchie, Hughie, A-Train, even Ashley - the plot revolving around those characters are about what makes them really them. They all have struggled with the question whether power (be it through V or executive position) made them into a terrible person they do not like, but it is all actually on them. Power only explicate their attitude. Like Butcher in the previous episode said, "With great power comes the absolute certainty, that you will turn into a right cunt."
It was interesting to see how each characters react: Hughie portrayed as an insecure man, A-Train tasting his own bitter medicine, Starlight getting tired of the play-pretend and politicking she has played all over the years, and of course, Homelander being Homelander. I find it especially best with Hughie and A-Train. Hughie, when in S1 he acted as our moral compass, here we see him as someone fragile, a man unable to keep up with the pace of the world he's living in and feeling defeated by his girlfriend for not being a breadwinner. A-Train, a great end to his arc, as he realizes that he has caused so many harms to others due to his toxicity, he realizes that he can only bring a little bit of justice for his own brother. He can't run away from his past like Frenchie said, I think it's very poetic.
Also it's refreshing to get a brief character development with Soldier Boy. Hoping that there is more to this character in the next seasons to come.
Last but not least, the fight with Homelander was intense. The unexpected Butcher x Hughie x Soldier Boy tag-team is great, especially with the confused, defeated look Homelander gave to them. I'm expecting this will drive Homelander even uncontrollable, especially now with his inner monologue and everyone either against him (Starlight, Maeve, if she is still there) or leaving him (Noir and possibly A-Train). The show seems to be planting the seed of conflict between our Boys in the future to come. Hopefully this will pay off.
Another ten bell episode, damn.
So epic. The fight with Homeland at the end was so amazing. Kudos to Karl Urban for looking perfectly deranged while fighting Homeland. Starlight over the bs and calling everyone's ass out. The Bill Cosby joke was spot on. But why they gotta keep playin my man M.M. lol
Miss Annie January is TIRED OF Y'ALL
not soo herosgam how i was expect, but... damn, fucking good episode!
The actual herogasm part wasn't as crazy as the marketing made it out to be but that doesn't matter because instead what we got was easily the best episode of the season and maybe of the entire series. The boys being split up and having different goals adds a great new layer to the show/characters. They found a way to insert something as crazy as herogasm into the overall plot of the season in a way that makes sense, and there was so much forward plot development here. Homelander vs Soldier Boy, Butcher and Hughie was one of the best things this show has produced. So much payoff to seeing the boys actually get some punches in and have a fighting chance against Homelander. Can't wait for the last two episodes.
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Geiger counter sounds giving me fcking anxiety
this episode was my favourite so far
Herogasm was way too overhyped for what it was, but an amazing episode regardless
[8.0/10] I didn’t think I’d end up feeling for A-Train in all of this. All it took was him finally getting a taste of his own medicine. Heroes are so above the law, so much above consequences, that it can apparently be humbling for even the most self-involved when they actually receive some of the same suffering they impose on others.
So after everything, he offers a legitimate, heartfelt apology to Hughie for what happened to Robin. He balks when Vought refuses to act to punish Bluehawk. And he takes matters into his own hands, running for the first time this season, maybe giving his life in the process, all so that he can return the favor to a Supe gone too far. The method of execution is potent given the unfortunate history of racial violence in this country, and in the twisted world of The Boys, a superhero giving his life to kill a racist Supe in such a brutal fashion is the closest thing the show offers to a happy ending.
Thankfully, it also seems to mostly wrap up the Kimiko/Frenchie subplot as well. (Though I guess Nina’s still at large. Sigh.) The Russian gangsters putting Frenchie into some strange sophie’s choice situation and the ensuing scuffle feels like a bizarre sideshow. But I do appreciate the takeaways here. In a funhouse mirror version of Annie’s conversation with Hughie, Kimiko declares that it wasn’t the V; she’s a monster all on her own, after how she kills the gangster. And in Nina’s cheesy monologue, she reveals that Frenchie too is running from his own fucked up past in multiple ways. These are broken people who’ve found solace in one another. Though this part of the show seems like a strange sidequest from the main plot, I at least appreciate the character exploration.
Then, there’s the Herogasm. I have to admit, at this point in the show, I’m completely nonplussed by a bunch of Supes indulging in a 1970s-style orgy. The Boys essentially already did this in its first couple of episodes, so I don’t get much shock or amusement from “love sausage” taunting the main players with his prehensile penis, or The Deep humping an octopus, or the other horny bric-a-brac throughout the episode. The scenes feel juvenile for the sake of juvenile, without much of a point beyond some background color.
Despite that, I appreciate how the episode orchestrates reasons for all the major characters to be there. The Deep is running reconnaissance for Homelander. A-Train is going after Bluehawk. Soldier Boy is going after the TNT Twins, his old teammates, who are hosting the party. Butcher and Hughie are SB’s seconds. Annie and MM are after their former teammates and aiming to stop any innocent people from getting hurt. And Homelander is there to swoop in and face down his former idol and the standard bearer for superherodom before he took up that mantle.
The results are cool! “Herogasm” has trouble keeping everything from turning into a six-car pile-up at times, but the sense of all these characters and interests culminating in one big event has a natural appeal.
Granted, I continue to be semi-exhausted by the Hughie/Annie romantic melodrama. I don’t want to beat a dead horse, but the show still has to basically retcon Hughie’s personality to make any of this work, something the episode addresses in an oblong way in their conversation. There’s an interesting idea here, about Hughie wanting to be the one who saves Annie for once, and Annie saying she doesn’t need him to save her; she just needs him. But this doesn’t feel like the couple we knew; it plays like a different set of partners who are molded to fit the story, rather than the other way around.
The confrontation between Butcher and MM is slightly more compelling, if only because it’s a long time in the making. The same goes for his confrontation with Soldier Boy. Hearing him tell Annie about how and why he blames himself for his family being hurt as SB’s collateral damage, and how it lead to his OCD is heartbreaking. Butcher telling SB to spare MM is low key wholesome to boot. But it’s not clear what he wants to accomplish with Soldier Boy or a superpowered Butcher. Does he want to die? Does he just want to get out his frustrations? Or is he foolish enough to think any of this will work? The motivations are jumbled.
Still, the time we spend with headlining heroes is some of the most compelling material in a stacked episode. I like The Boys’ approach to Soldier Boy as Captain America, someone who still has the attitudes and values of the 1950s without the convenient updating of it to be cool with modern sensibilities. Soldier Boy’s backwards opinions about tons of things, his statements on masculinity and fatherhood, all give Hughie pause, and rightfully so. But I also appreciate that he has PTSD from his horrific experiences in Russia a la Winter Soldier, something that leaves him out of control. He doesn’t believe himself to be “a bad guy”, but he keeps hurting people. He’s a living weapon, one who seems as unconcerned with collateral damage as anyone.
Then, by god, there’s Homelander. His Green Goblin-esque talk with the man in the mirror is one of the highlights of the season so far. The mere fact that he admits, deep down, he wants to be loved, is revelatory. Homelander is a sociopath, but as he himself disdainfully admits, there’s still a part of him that’s human, that cares what other people think about him, that wants the familial affection and care he never received as a child. In a weird way, he’s of a piece with Emily Gilmore, as they both desperately want to be loved, but whose actions more often push away or alienate the people they care about rather than bring them closer. It’s an outstanding performance from Antony Starr, with the vulnerability, psychopathy, and trauma all doled out in equal measure. Hell, even his insecurity that Stan Edgar is right, and he’s going to tank the company is a weirdly human moment from this monster.
Of course, eventually it all gives way to one giant fight. The three way brawl between Homelander, Soldier Boy, and Butcher is suitably epic. The “I’m the upgrade” exchange is aces, and Butcher and Homelander having an eye-beam-off is big time stuff too. The editing is choppy, so the presentation of the fight choreography leaves plenty to be desired, but seeing Superman fight Captain America (plus, uh, Cyclops I guess?) is suitably cool to paper over that, particularly considering all of the baggage both men are bringing to the fight. The finish is satisfying enough, with Homelander getting away, denying us any sort of finality until the finale, but this trio of men being able to hurt him, wound him, maybe come close to wounding him in a way he hasn’t faced before. This is a big deal, and it shows.
So is Annie taking a stand. I feel like we’ve been down this road with the former Starlight before. Plenty of times on The Boys she’s declared that she’s not going to take it anymore and will truly fight this time. But I admire her for going public, for rejecting Neuman’s offer to keep throwing in with shitty people and instead using her following to disseminate the truth about Soldier Boy and Supes more generally. She’s using the power of her bully pulpit for good, albeit in a way that puts a target on her back, but that makes it genuinely brave in a way we don’t see much of on this show.
Overall, I continue to have my qualms about this season, but “Herogasm”, despite its sophomoric backdrop, delivers in a big way on many of the ideas that have been bubbling up around the show this year. I can only hope the actual finale is as engrossing.
Really good episode . But seriously, for those small scenes was such a huge hype and "trauma" for the producer or actors? everything is going on behind the scenes and none of the main actors show anything or are involved in any explicit things. I'm not complaining, just saying that I don't see where the "oh my God " effect was.
honestly, the whole orgy part was kinda mid, thought I'd be going "what the actual fuck" throughout that segment of the episode because of how much promotional material they did for it but it was pretty iffy ngl, the rest of the episode was good though, loved the fight scene and the end was pretty great.
We need more nudity and gore (yeah in combination). It's still not enough :)
Amazing! So much happened in this episode. The characters arcs and turns have been amazing.
It's ironic because most of these comments read like the live Instagram feed at the end of the episode :smiley:
omg that fight was super cooool
Apparently this was hyped but I didn't read or hear a thing.
Everything that's so great about The Boys condensed into an hour. This may not have been a season finale, but it was very much the end of an act. The world will look very different when we next fade in.
The best f***ing show in the world.
Outstanding episode. Karl Urban and Antony Starr continue to be unmatched but god just EVERYONE stood out this episode. Loved it.
If you thought this show didn't have another gear - think again !!!
Never being this hyped for a superhero show in a long time that the simple idea of building towards this being one of the most provocative hours of tv becomes sidelined for uniting every single narrative thread of The Boys into a ticking bomb where every single character has completely destroy the status quo of the show to such an extreme degree while managing to create a satisfying, even in itself quite ironic view of, superhero showdown where the bare essentials of fragile urge of masculine hierarchical dominance unites psychosexual frivolity, contemporary racial performative activism and post-9/11 disillusionment.
A character cries about the death of his family thanks to the police state perpetrated by the symbol of America only to find himself into a superhero orgy followed by a literal massacre perpetrated by said symbol the next scene.
That’s the embodiment of this show.
I really wonder what Black Noir is up to. He seemed nice or at least ok in the past (when they showed his face).
That Herogasm thing - no comment... xD
I probably would've liked to see Frenchie's face though. At least we got Annie, The Deep and an octopus.
MM's teargas grenade was quite pathetic tbh... :o
They almost got Homelander. So close! But I guess it was never really going to happen...
And a badass Annie January moment at the end.
I wonder how that'll play out but it'll definitely create a PR nightmare and at least some of the truth is finally out.
The fight was fantastic everything else is disgusting.
The opening warning-disclaimer has to have been the awesomest warning-label writing I've ever seen.
And that's just the moment opening into an episode thoroughly jammed with individual plotline advancements and interconnections, all leading up to that fight and that speech...
Well done. And only two episodes to go...
One hell of a ride
That fight was fantastic! I was surprised that they would put Soldier Boy and Homelander in the same room this fast and it didn't disappoint. It's an even grander version of 'who's got the largest...' fight amongst... well... boys. And in all honesty I would love to see Homelander get obliterated by Butcher and co but as we get to know more about Soldier Boy we also saw a surprisingly humane side to Homelander as he was talking to himself. It shows again that he is just a badly traumatized child underneath. Not feeling sorry for him though... He makes us forget about it almost instantly.
I wish they would stop with the over the top nudity and sex though... it was funny at first, gory next but now it's like they want to shove more of it down our throats just for the sake of it. Shock effect and all.
I actually hope A-train is okay... He went full circle here in his story arc... could be the last we see of him.
So, my entire comment will be only this:
you seem familiar
That was fkn hilarious :joy:
Honored mentioned for
Frenchie is gonna be heartbroken he missed this
That was epic :joy:
Best fight in anything ever. Peak of all super hero fights. I was literally shouting out loud it was so mad. This show is incredible.
Not a very funny episode just full of shocking content. with little to no plot. The only really good bit was at the end 4/10
Yeah!Now this was a hell out of hell,haha..super intense and probably one of best episode for this season. In fact,this series is so fucking insane.Highly highly recommend
The whole subplot with the Russian mafia felt trumped up compared to the very serious problem of Soldier Boy.
any day in January ... fuck off .
this bitches bitching about bitches that been making them bitches ...
one moment they want to end someone the other moment they talking about wrong thing to do... you fuckers been killing since season 1 ep1 and now judging butcher and Hughie because they want to end it ..
anyway this show is great , homelander is our star , the fight was awesome and I can't wait for the next one .
“You’re just a cheap fucking knock off.”
“I’m the upgrade” - Homelander
Was definitely expecting more from the “Herogasm” portion but I guess plot is a real thing :rolling_eyes:
They did a shit job editing the IG live chat at the end...
People were responding to what she said as she said it or before she even said it
So their editing team is on par with their sfx team.
Why do all movies and shows that show penis never show vagina when they could/should. I am so sick of shows and movies showing penises. It is not needed and if I wanted to see them I would watch porn. If you show penis then show clearly a shaved vagina to be equal. F U people that allow this non-sense. F this show, not watching it anymore as it is not for normal people.
this 2 cry bitches...Annie and Milk...
The first fight was the worst in this episode why would she just stand there and wait until they attack her??? xD
Otherwise so good :)
I don't know why none of the spoiler tags are working, so I just marked the whole review.
Also, I really don't get what everyone is going on about. Definitely not the most interesting or shocking episode of The Boys. I think it actually had the most narrative problems. I also saw no marketing for this, but still found the orgy scene to be underwhelming, and mostly gross in a banal sort of way.
Hughie sure is supercool;nocomment about all the resultant collateral damage. I know he tried to prevent it, and he's supposed to have reached his "crossing the Rubicon" moment, but when he was leaving with Butcher he only seemed conflicted because of the rift with Starlight, and she's the only thing he looked at-- no moment of reflection on anything else. It's like a scene got cut from the script. Did I miss the part where Hughie goes full supe-bigot and doesn't really give much of a shit about the other people because they're sex workers? Not even a "well shit; I tried".
This also doesn't really jive with his behavior in episode seven.
It was nice to see Ashely snapping and, in the process, coming into her own as some kind of actual authority figure. A-Train seemed to be completely unable to formulate a response in the moment, which was really satisfying to watch, as was his absolutely brutal, properly medieval-style murder of Blue Hawk.
I found the animated sequences to be surprisingly well implemented. Black Noir is shaping up to be more and more interesting.
I was, however, left confused when Starlight just went straight up "fuck everybody here", and told Victoria Neumann to fuck off. Victoria did come off as completely jaded, but the complete rejection and dismissal just seemed... off somehow. That scene was one of those major, dynamic-changing milestones in a show like this, and Starlight's reaction really threw it off kilter for me. Maybe I'll feel differently on a re-watch, but Annie/Starlight seems to have been inconsistently/unrealistically written. I don't know, maybe she's just supposed to be kind of a hothead who acts extremely recklessly when she doesn't think she's in immediate mortal peril.
And who the fuck is Cassandra, really? She's obviously a plant, but whose?
random thought: bodies are gross
The screen time of Love' Sausage was longer than the actual fight.
"Buddy, you think you look strong? You're wearing a cape."
While this was probably the best episode so far, it was underwhelming in the sense of being overhyped. The title sends a message, making you expect things; beyond anything we've seen. This episode's the one spoken about the most/talked up. Everyone couldn't wait until this one. Only for the big moment to get the reaction, "Wait, that's it?" Seriously, that's it? I mean, it's not that the title was clickbait, but that moment and its shock value should've extended through the whole episode. People are too easily impressionable. The "sad" thing is that everyone's expectations were probably exceeded. Generally. Everyone jerks off everything about this show. I guess I'm always the outlier.
I don't know about others, but the "main" part, as in what the title refers to and what everyone was looking forward to seeing, was not the episode's highlight. It's a forgettable, throwaway scene. Yawn. Yeah, most people probably couldn't get it out of their heads for weeks; I don't care. The highlight was the fight sequence between Soldier Boy and Homelander, then the involvement of Butcher and Hughie. Something like that (seeing Homelander put in the effort, but specifically him getting affected) has been a long time coming, and the showdown between him and Soldier Boy has been built-up and desired; now, it's delivered: and was it glorious. This season is, at last, in a worthwhile and meaningful place, and I hope it stays there for the remainder.
This episode also progressed the plot of how Soldier Boy got captured by confirming that Noir's the one to go after. We (I) already knew that, to an extent. Noir is Stan's lackey, and there was that scene with them in the flashback. Now, we have confirmation. Noir will probably be the next target; Soldier Boy doesn't need to go after everyone else now. But there has to be more to the story (I mean, that plotline would feel incomplete otherwise), so I'm interested in that.
And I'm glad that the A-Train subplot is over, and it seemed like he's "over" now; I'll know in the next episode. I was never interested in it. I was never interested in the karma of that situation or his redemption. It reeked of the writers having too many characters on their plate. Because of that, they had to rely on social commentary (because tugging at the reactive strings of most of your audience is a desperate move) or comedic relief, like with The Deep. I don't care too much about either. The comedic value is alright.
Another thing I liked was the score at the end. If I were to criticize it, I would say it's not as pronounced as it should've been. There should've been more of a lasting crescendo. But that's a super small criticism. However, between the score at the end of the previous episode and this one, I'd say the former one was better. I like how this episode and the previous one have ended, especially the scores.
Overall, this episode was my favorite yet; nothing exceptional, just the best one by this show's standards. The first half was weaker, but not necessarily in a negative way. The second half was the meat of the episode, for sure. And I'm interested in where the season will go from here.
That party, those fights, wow
Welp that's certainly a different interpretation of Herogasm than the source material. But it's not one that doesn't fit here. The Prime Video show is very much less about our heroes posing as their comic counterparts. There's some of that but not a lot. In the show they're more like actors than real superheroes. Thus Herogasm of the comics would be much harder to fit anyway. This never version is alright. More importantly this episode was pretty explosive as explosive as the Herogasm comics themselves.
Why did the photo go to jail... because it was framed lol.. Not a bad scrap that either
I already liked Anthony Starr from Banshee (if you haven’t seen it, you’re wasting your time) and I liked Karl Urban from… well, pick any role… I don’t f:asterisk_symbol:&€:pound_symbol: care. They’re a match made in heaven for our “watchgasm”. This show is 10x better than ANYTHING Marvel has released for Disney+ and if you push it a bit further, better than 90% of the MCU films.
I wanted that beating to last longer, I hate craplander so much
When Soldier Boy and Billy teamed up it was like Goku and Vegeta teaming up to fight a baddy, it was awesome
I’m starting to think that Homelander is MAGA
explodes with white hot character development :fire::fire::fire:
Probably the best episode of this show so far!
This one doesn't quite live up to the marketing hype, but it's still great. And really, MM should've seen that coming.
Padding, padding, booring, padding. Can A-train please be dead and just kill of Deep. Maybe three minutes of this episode was slightly palatable and actually moved the story forward.
Great episode. Anyone wanting to see the full, unfiltered Herogasm should read the 6-episode mini-series comic.
Yep, series' best so far.
This was completely insane. This is getting better and better...
OMG, the best Episode of the serie, next Episode Will bê amazing
Great episode! Kind of funny they had it so people instantly replied to whatever she said during the live steam
Spice Girls only two of them left through against the world! Nice team up. Status quo shattered. Finally.
Nice wrap up on A-Train. Did not expected to see Vas the fight now. Oh, boy scared Homelander probably more dangerous than insecure one. Speaking of insecurity... Hughie now is a proper sup. No longer caring about huge collateral damage. No sympathy for the lad or his inevitable downfall.
Homelander vs Soldier Boy , Butcher and Hughie. Hands fucking down
1st, wtf...
But then this was the best, so many development, damn
In the first half, the writing and satire was amazing, spot-on, but from the scene where Annie confronts Hughie and onwards it got rather lazy and contradicting with its messaging (or it could be laying groundwork for further escalation).
Annie shouldn't have made Hughie feel bad for having insecurities, nor should she have been trying to take agency away from him. Anytime someone feels insecure about something, it's not their fault. Behind every insecurity there is trauma. And just because Hughie told her he was fine with her having powers, that doesn't mean that he must be fine with doing nothing in every circumstance (especially now that emotions, stakes and risks are higher). Also, what Hughie was trying to talk Annie into (de-escalation and non-engagement) was exactly what Annie tried to talk M.M. into. Was this intentional from the writers to show how inconsistent and self-righteous Annie is? I'm not sure.
Also, I didn't like how they gave A-Train a redemption-by-death. His revenge wasn't justice for his brother (or for any other of Blue Hawk's victims). If anything, it will make racial tensions worse because now, to Blue Hawk's fanbase, he is a martyr, killed by an "angry black man".
i thought this episode was just about herogasm because they've been promoting it for the past week lmao but it turns out this episode is really good and butcher vs. homelander???? it's so fucking amazing
Tamest orgy I've ever seen.
Annie January's skin is the real Mother's Milk
Wow! First time that I love a splatter ... this was surprising good from the beginning - but now with the 3rd season they topped them self.
Oh God yes, the ending justifies the title!
WE WERE WAITING FOR THAT FIGHT
THE LITTLE CUNT SHIT HIMSELF HUH
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Easily the best episode to date. Period.