Holy sh*t that was AWESOME! A show where the heroes are the villains. I love it.
That was pretty damn good. Great characters. Carl Urban kicks ass. He's best thing to come out of those bad Star Trek movies. He didn't start there but it put him in a heavier weight class. Sheriff Lucas Hood! I didn't recognize Anthony Star from the trailers. It was when I actually starting watching.
I don't know much about Jack Quaid (Hughie) except he's voicing one of the characters in the new Star Trek animated series.
Love it. Couldn't stop watching, and can't wait for the next season.
I love how I didn’t know much about this show before I started watching it. It’s fucking brutal, but with the brutality of a corporate, all too real world, and what “superheroes” probably would be like, if there were any.
... super heroes in the USA at the very least.
Really graphic, really brutal and shocking. This is a great pilot episode that's got me hooked and intrigued. However, one minor nitpick is the science behind the invisible guy. He claims he can turn invisible because his skin can reflect light. If that were true then when he's invisible we'd still see his hair, his eyeballs when his eyelids aren't closed and probably even his teeth when he talks. Those wouldn't be reflecting light. Just saying. But besides that it was awesome.
Initial impression: great international cast, great premise (it flips the super hero archetype on its head). This is not a PG series. It's full of graphic language, graphic violence, nudity and strong sexual and adult content. It is clearly a noir representation of the super hero genre. For cast and premise alone, I'm beginning my rating at 8 (great) out of 10. But it will have to deepen to penetrate (and transcend) the grunge of its context. [Super Hero Noir]
[8.1/10] “What if the D.C. superheroes were bad?” is such a stale premise these days. Alan Moore nearly perfected the idea early with Watchmen. Zach Snyder’s been lapping up his scraps ever since. The DCAU did it. Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths did it.* Justice League: Gods and Monsters* did it. There's not much juice left in that orange.
Yet, somehow, in its opening salvo, The Boys makes the idea feel fresh again. It revitalizes the subgenre in two ways. The first is that the heroes aren’t evil in some grandiose, outsized, sort of way. They are assholes in the prosaic, real world sort of way that actors and athletes and other powerful people are.
They aren’t evil for the sake of evil, in search of power or domination or god knows what else. Instead, they are sexual harssers. They’re jerks who use their invisibility to spy on their co-workers in restrooms. They’re whatever the opposite of an ally is. They’re superstars who laugh about the “little people” who suffer from their escapades and give insincere forced apologies. They are not absolute power corrupted; they’re simply debaucherous hypocrites, the kind of mundane evil that infects the halls of power much more than demigods gone wrong.
They’re also a corporate product. What’s interesting about The Seven (a thinly-veiled version of the Justice League) is that they’re not just a collection of superpowered jerks. They are a fully privatized, commodified, marketed property, replete with corporate earnings statements, PR campaigns, sales to municipal governments (and maybe national defense), movies, memes, and merchandise.
In that, the show is poised not only to comment on the idea of what it would be like if the noble warriors we look up to weren’t so noble, but also on how much comic book ephemera has permeated our culture. The blend of superhero fandom and corporate profiteering is a live issue in the real world, one that introduces queasy questions about the intersection of art and commerce that only get queasier when you throw law enforcement and the military-industrial complex into the mix. There's rich worldbuilding out of the gate here, taking a cynical view of how we would treat the advent of metahumans in our society that positions The Boys to satirize both fiction and reality.
And yet, the second part of what makes this opening hour so successful, and the thing that makes it exciting as a T.V. show, is how it roots all that worldbuilding in the perspectives of two characters we can relate to and feel for. It channels the broader problems this superhero system represents through problems two individuals face, and we can understand why they’re so disillusioned and ready to fight so quickly.
One is Annie, an aspiring hero and true believer plucked from obscurity to join The Seven. She’s earnest, trained for this all her life, and has been stage-mom’d to death to get there. She genuinely wants to save the world, a literal and figurative bastion of light who gets to live her dream of joining the heroes she so admires as an equal in the cause of justice.
Only, as soon as she gets there, her idealistic view of them is shattered in an instant. She’s blackmailed and coerced into sexually gratifying one of her “partners.” She discovers who they are behind closed doors and how much more they’re concerned with points on the package than saving lives. And she can’t even tell anyone about it, not even her mom, because it would disappoint the kids like her, who admire them so, or the parent who’s so proud of her daughter’s achievements.
It’s a smart choice all around. It lets the audience put ourselves in Annie’s place, like so many kids who dream of fighting crime alongside Superman and Batman and the other powerful champions of the page and the screen. Imagining what it would be like if those daydreams ran aground on a demoralizing case of “never meet your heroes” gives her experience power and a strange form of relatability for anyone who achieved some measure of their dreams only to find out it wasn’t all it was cracked up to be.
It helps us to root for Starlight when she resolved to be a fighter and stand-up to the bullshit. She recognizes her own power, and is reassured that even if she fell down, she can get back up and try all over again.
She gets that (low-key inspiring) advice in a chance meeting with Hughie, the other lead in this episode. His perspective is just as relatable -- one of the little guys whose existence is stepped on by the connected and powerful, with little recourse to puncture their sterling image. The episode does masterful work at setting up he and his girlfriend as a cute, nascent couple with a fun dynamic and playful but endearing future ahead of them, one that’s shattered when a speedster races through her and pulverizes her in the process. It’s a shock, but not one for shock value. It’s emblematic of the callousness and impunity with which heroes like A-Train operate.
We see Hughie fighting against a system stacked against him, built to favor “supes”. He has panic attacks when he’s left without the love of his life and yet has to see his girlfriend’s killer put on cereal boxes and sports drinks like a smiling paragon of virtue. Here is the other part of that hypocrisy, how the champions ostensibly devoted to lifting up the little guy are actually oblivious to them, uncaring, maybe even downright hostile.
Hughie has an arc in response to this epiphany. He goes from being a guy too scared to ask his boss for a raise to someone who could choose to run away, but instead uses his smarts to help kill one of The Seven. He’s nervous as hell, but still pulls off planting a bug in their tower at the behest of a mysterious benefactor posing as an FBI agent. Despite his father’s warning that, however noble Hughie’s cause, the kid’s just not a fighter, learning the truth about the heroes who dominate his culture, and losing the person he cares about most, spurs him to fight when it counts. The disillusionment brings Hughey and Annie together, but so too does the resolution to fight back against this metahuman assholes.
The one exception is Homelander, the Superman analogue. In contrast to the other heroes, he seems fine and upstanding. He doesn’t frequent the capes-only club where heroes congregate to do their dirty deeds. He disclaims his fellow Justice Leaguers’ complaints about dollars and cents in favor of discussions of heroic acts. Sure, he melts a bank robbers’ hand to his gun with heat vision and knocks another one into next Tuesday, but they were holding young kids hostage with machine guns. Maybe they deserved it.
Only, in the end, he uses his powers not to protect the innocent or stand up for truth, justice, and the American way as it existed in 1930s comic books. He uses them to destroy an airplane with a child on it, because his father played hardball with the CEO of the corporation who manages the heroes and threatened to expose a scandalous secret. And in the end, he smiles at it.
Maybe he thinks he’s acting for the greater good. Maybe he’s a heartless tool who does whatever his corporate masters tell him without thought or question. Maybe he’s just better at wearing the mask on- and off-stage better than his colleagues. Either way, he’s no hero. The Boys is far from the first to explore that idea. But with ideas, and stories, and a world this good right out of the gate, it has a chance to be one of the best.
Awesome first episode of this new wacky series about superheroes corrupt inside and controlled and marketed by a big corporation called Vought.
Great allusion to DC’s Justice League.
The world's bad, (most) superheroes are too!
Gimme more of that crazy stuff!
This was a pretty decent start. It had a few brutal moments and what happened to Annie was unsettling, but I can't help but feel...I don't know, a little disappointed, I guess. I still enjoyed it in a general aspect. I just remember the beginning of the comic being more captivating, that's all. And what happened to Annie being more detailed and unsettling.
Jeez I love Antony Starr as the Homelander. He's got that sinister look of being completely messed up on the inside. Different from his counterpart from the graphic novels but it looks like he made the character his own. Looking forward to more!
What a f***ing pilot! I'm hooked.
Fantastic pilot that sets up the tone for the rest of the season. Effectively shows how superheroes would work in real world: dominated by public relation, backed by billion dollar companies and corporate lobbyists, while everyone adores them from afar. Really liked the brief part where they show the plan of superheroes' role in privatizing security. In this day and age, this couldn't be more relevant.
A very fresh and needed take since Watchmen, especially considering we are very saturated in a superheroes world now. Both in terms of fictional characters (MCU with Disney monopolizing the entertainment industry) and of celebrity politicians (Indonesia's Jokowi, Philippines' Duterte, Russia's Putin, US's Trump/Obama, all are backed with media conglomerates and billionaires).
It's been a long time I wasn't so hooked on a show after watching just the pilot!
Really enjoying the style of this show. I'd only ever heard of the comic in passing and never read it so glad I'm going in totally blind.
One oddity/let down is Simon Pegg. Clearly cast because he's a 'big name' in the geek realms but really out of place and TERRIBLE American accent. He sticks out like a sore thumb. Hoping his character doesn't get much screen time as it's really immersion breaking.
Edit - Coming back to this comment a while later. I now know that the comic book version of Hughie was based (appearance wise) on Pegg. My point stands though that he was crowbarred in as a special case and unfortunately neither his acting or accent got any better through the season. Literally the only let down of the show.
Personally I thought the writing is a bit rough around the edges but the characters are well established and of course, handling the superhero setting from a more perverse and dark point of view is pretty interesting. The sexual assault by The Deep was shocking, still. In the context of the show it makes sense, but it still was extremely uncomfortable to see this manipulative kind of power play unfold.
i was not expecting much from this (i just assume i won't like anything popular and that it'd just be a bunch of non-stop action scenes with no relatable plot) so i was very pleasantly surprised. this was gripping right from the start and the scene between the two PoV characters was quite touching. my only issue was that i felt the writing sometimes got a bit too on-the-nose and forced like with how much of a jerk the water hero was all of a sudden, like damn, he doesn't even wait 2 minutes? felt like the writers just needed to get the point across asap there. but it's a pilot and besides that it didn't feel too unnatural how the characters moved the plot along.
i'm also curious what exactly their plan is with recruiting starlight, it seems they want every hero on the seven to be a corrupt asshole, did they choose her because they thought they could break her, or are they just so cynical that they assumed her naiveté was an act and just assumed she must be a fraud like them...?
my only concern with watching this is it seems it is a show about really horrible people who mostly do not get punished for being horrible. but there's reason to feel some hope that the good guys will eventually win... hopefully...
omggg, Seems I'm gonna like this show so much
such an enjoyable pilot! and that ending, god...
This series is just wrong. Super Heroes were innocent vehicles of idealism. Cliche, claptrap, junk, call it what you want. Look down on it if you want, but it was meant to be heartfelt fun. Which this show isn't. It's well made. It's intelligent. But it's still wrong. I suspect at heart the creator of this hates human beings, so of course if they got super powers they'd still be scum. This is political, a polemic from believers who don't believe in people. People are scum. Life is shit. Which gets you where? Nihilism? Or what? Skip this bullshit.
Billy Butcher: "You'll love it."
Hughie: "Uh, not likely."
Man, that was great. What an intro. I love the characterisation of Hughie and Annie (I'm so glad they decided to show a hero with an outsider's perspective). Like, this world is messed up. Nobody here (except Annie) seems to have a code. They all seem like assholes. And getting a normal person's perspective is great too. Like, two really unique perspectives you don't get in superhero media. God, I'm hyped.
Wow... That was like all kinds of ewwww...
Who knew you'll be rooting for anyone else than the actual heroes? A really nice twist on superheroes and vigilantes with gruesome moments and dark humour. Just started and I already want more of these INSANE characters!
I'm guessing the show gets better because I don't get all the hype. The pilot didn't hook me in.
This is WILD y'all! Not sure if I continue watching because I'm a softie and this show throws itself at you HARDCORE at each corner. Very graphic and brutal. Has its warning more than justified.
Oh my God I can't stop laughing, just finished the first episode and here's hoping it lasts for years
I got around 20 minutes into the pilot and realized it just isn't for me (at least right now). Between the dismembering in the first 5 minutes, Nate from gossip girl's predator vibes and the honest tedium of the pastiche, (not to mention the overwhelmingly dull grey) I could tell it wasn't going to work for me.
such a great soundtrack! man the passenger playing at the end >>
8.5/10
Wow..just...Wow
Now that's a season premiere done right and
I Am Definitely All In.
I can see already that this show is absolutely totally super frickin awesome amazing and that was just 5 minutes into the episode and the rest Definitely delivered. I am so Stoked for this show and after coming straight off smashing all
5 seasons of the phenomenal Masterpiece
"MISFITS" and wanting MORE WTAF Naughtiness
I find myself here and I am so excited because it looks like I'm going to get my wish.
And yes I will be comparing on how much this show blows my mind with absolute Awesomness on top of awesome just like The Flawless MISFITS doe's.
So far so Awesome
Show me more
As I am already totally invested.
That first episode was naughty and I loved every single sick second of it.
Bring it on
"THE BOYS"
Let's Go.
A great concept. Power corrupts and all that. Not exactly original, but fun to see explored in great detail. Right off the bat, I have to wonder; if Homelander is supposed to be such an upstanding guy, why does he put up with a team full of assholes? Obviously, he isn't such a great guy.
Jack Quaid does an amazing job at being an annoying pussy. I want to see him turned into goo every time he speaks. I guess that is a backhanded compliment. Maybe?
Starlight is equally pathetic to Hughie. Erin Moriarty does a wonderful job of playing the "wholesome" midwestern girl. But it is a shame she caves so easily just to get into The Seven. Pathetic even. Just like all the actresses that were "taken advantage of", she didn't have to go through with it. She could have walked away. So she would have lost her dream of being in The Seven, but to have some self-respect probably would have been worth it. She went through with it, so obviously it was a price she was willing to pay. She obviously has little self-respect so she is willing to be a slut for the ones in power. You have no one to blame but yourself, Starlight. Is The Deep a prick for setting the situation up and threatening her? Yes. But he didn't exactly hold a metaphorical gun to her head. She did it willingly. Shameful.
It was obvious that Starlight and Hughie would meet. Two pathetic individuals who are unable to stand up for themselves. Hopefully, we see some mutual reinforcement throughout the series.
Karl Urban can do no wrong. He is fabulous as always.
It's always good to see Elizabeth Shue. I used to be a huge fan, but haven't seen much of her since Hollow Man. I need to catch up on some of her more recent stuff.
Brilliant premiere! Looking forward to other episodes.
Love the idea and the concept especially since I dropped out of every "real" superhero show.
Ummm... Quite disturbing to say the least
The Boys is a different spin on the superhero genre which was fun to see. About a group of superheroes who are corrupt and not what they seem after they are doing their heroic actions on saving people. While Billy (Karl Urban) and Hughie (Jack Quaid) are trying to bring one of the heroes to justice for running into his girlfriend and killing her.
Fast paced direction, action packed, and the story moves at a pace that keeps you interested. Kind of like a modern day Watchmen about antiheroes. The cast is great. The music soundtrack is great. A group of heroes call themselves the seven while they are corrupt and about the fame. And a vigilante guy played by Karl Urban who believes these heroes are troubled and need to be put back in place and face justice.
Re-watching season one to prepare for season two, even better the second time through. Picking up on things I missed.
Superheroes as criminals and perverts. Seriously? The 4 out of 10 is for Karl Urban and the special effects. The rest is crap. And Hughie is a annoying fumbling whiner,
brilliant first ep ....i'm hooked!
Fantastic first episode. I’m giving it an 9 rather than an 8 in part due to the shock factor of that first death, but also because the whole thing feels new and fresh. Turning the stereotypical superhero tropes upside down.
Way excellent pilot, had me hooked. Watchmen type of vibe from the show, very cool take on the superhero genre.
Karl motherfucking Urban. Started watching the show mostly because of him as I know nothing about the source material.
And what a good decision that was because everything about this episode was amazing. This is going to be a fantastic series.
Also nice to see Anthony Starr again. I've been missing Banshee.
This was an amazing pilot. Was expecting some run of the mill stuff but this is a unique take on the genre. They humanized supes which gives more gravitas and perspective to this genre, looking forward to the rest of the season......
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This show is good that you don’t want to finish it! Another show that should hopefully teach The CW a lesson