This is so damn bad.
promised everything delivered nothing :confused:
This has to be one of the worst last episodes of any TV Series. It feels like a trailer for a new show and not a final episode.
The CG during the fight between super skrulls looks fan-made
While the ending made me smile at points, and in the end, and while it was cool watching that battle and seeing the powers from heroes being used, I still feel slightly... Empty? Like we sacrificed a lot in this show to get to so little resolution. We don't even know how long Rhody was a skrull, just that apparently he's having trouble walking again like after Civil War. So was fake Rhody mourning Tony when he died or not??? Add in another unlikable president to the mix. I dunno... It wasnt terrible, I mean shit some of the last few marvel shows really showed how low it can go, but I guess I just expected a lot more here.
So weak, so stupid... so nothing.
This has to be the worst MCU.. thing... ever and this final episode is just the worst.
The plot was stupid, the characters dumb and the acting atrocious.
And the decision regarding G'iah, WTF... I HATE IT!
Seriously, this is the dumbest thing I've ever watched, there is no explanation for this script.
So you tell me that the incredible and super smart Nick Fury made a promise to an entire alien species that he'll provide home for them on Earth, but years have passed and he did NOTHING (as he said, because “it’s hard to change the minds of 8 billion people”), causing some of the skrulls to rebel against humanity and, at the end, the deaths of many important people around the world and the president of the United States declaring war against all aliens.
And to make it all WAY WORSE, he LEAVES Earth after all this shitshow?? LMAO WHAT THE HELL WAS THISSSS
I dunno how I feel about the developments from the finale….
I guess G’iah is the strongest marvel character in the universe now…
Incredibly disappointing finale after the season started out very promising. The ending lacks depth and offers nothing to be excited about moving forwards.
I can't believe how drastic the MCU has dropped since Endgame.
Kill the TV shows Feige, stick to films and two a year max
Geez what a let down...
Practically we have nothing.
What a waste this was.
Feels like Disney+ started great with Loki and gone downhill from there, and now making Netflix brainless crap.
At least we got Bold on Bold action out of this.
One of the most low key MCU shows retcons the entire MCU, from 1995 forward. Loved this show, loved the old and new characters, very excited to see how this plays out in the next part of the MCU!
[7.0/10] Let’s start with what I did like about this one. I appreciate that it ends on a bittersweet note. Fury saves the day. He and his allies stop Gravik. They successfully avert World War III and prevent the Skrull rebels from initiating the annihilation of humanity.
Except, well, it just spurs more hate. The President declares all alien-born individuals as enemy combatants, with clear parallels to the War on Terror. It spurs radicals to act like vigilantes and go after scads of suspected aliens with lethal force, killing innocents along the way. (Poor Anna Madeley.) It provokes more mistrust and hatred and crazy conspiracies and unnecessary deaths. In a complicated world, stopping one problem just means a new and different problem ends up filling that vacuum. I appreciate the realism and complexity there, in lieu of a clean victory for Fury.
And honestly, I like the poetry of how it ties into Fury’s own worldview. It’s hard to know how much of what G’iah says to Gravik while pretending to be Fury reflects Nick’s own thoughts or just her interpretation of his perspective. (That’s a major flaw here, in my opinion.) But we know from Nick’s conversation with Talos that he believed Earth wasn’t ready for a bunch of Skrulls refugees, that they were too prejudiced, too close-minded, to handle it, something his upbringing amid segregation set him on.
To see those worst fears realized, with humanity showing its worst colors in a way that Gravik himself seemed to prophesy, is bitter poetry in the aftermath of saving the day. Seeing his efforts to save both humanity and the Skrull refugees leading to more of each group hating and fearing the other aligns with the series’ themes to date.
Against all odds, I also like the close of his relationship with Varra. Both Varra herself and G’iah made the point that Fury claims to love his wife, but it’s not clear if he would love her as she truly is. In truth, there’s something a little odd about seeing Samuel L. Jackson make out with a scaly green goblin-like alien. But it reflects a beautiful idea of loving someone deep down, and showing that for all his secrets and mercenary ways, he can overcome the prejudice between mankind and its alien neighbors. Maybe that’s a start for everyone else.
Not for nothing, I also like the ending for G’iah. I love the idea of her teaming up with Sonya. I particularly like the fact that theirs is very much the type of relationship Fury forged with Talos and his Skrull allies, with the difference being that Sonya makes clear that it’s purely transactional. There’s something about the dance continuing apace, except with both parties having open eyes about suing each other, that is both cynically aspirational and appropriate as a landing spot for both.
All of that said, even if I like the ending, I don’t love how they got there.
First and foremost, the fight between Gravik and G’iah is just bad. I’ll admit, the graphics being less-than-great doesn’t help the situation. There is a cartoony, even chintzy quality to their throwdown in a nondescript warehouse environment that makes it harder to be compelled. But I’m honestly more perturbed at the fact that they just have every superpower now. It makes them feel like two five-year-olds playing superheroes in their backyards just trying to one-up each other to a ridiculous degree. Seeing the Maw’s powers or Mantis’ abilities in action should be cool. Instead, this is the wrong cross section of a game-breaker and a development that’s visually boring. Plus I don’t like the ambiguity of whether Gravik’s truly dead or not. Seems like, with all his super powers, he could still recover for that, and it seemed stupid that “by any means necessary” G’iah didn’t obliterate him after she’d neutralized him.
I also have mixed feelings about the big twist here. On the one hand, it’s genuinely clever to send G’iah in Fury’s place, and give her “The Harvest” in the hopes of using it in the Super Skrull machine. But for one thing, it relies on a lot going right with Gravik in ways that feel way too convenient. And for another, as I mentioned earlier, it neuters Giah-as-Fury’s big speech to Gravik. I like Nick’s admission that he broke his promise, that he made a mistake, that he’s sorry, but that he thought humanity would never accept the Skrulls. I like Gravik’s fiery “your chickens are coming home to roost” speech in response. But when we don’t know if what G’iah says is truly how Fury feels, it neuters his character journey here, especially when it’s never clear if/when/how he went from broken down/out of the game Fury to rejuvenated master of secrets Fury.
The business with the real Fury, Sonya, the President, and Skrull-Rhodey is pretty mild too. Again, I’m not in this show for a bunch of generic shoot-em-ups. And while there’s theoretically tension as to whether the President is going to side with Fury or the fake Rhodey, any savvy fan knows how it’s going to go down.
Overall, I’m satisfied with the ending and with the series, based on the ideas at play and where things land. There’s too many great actors and interesting themes at play here for me not to be on board. But a lot of the nuts and bolts superhero business was under par, which definitely weighed this one down.
I didn’t hate this but like a comment here says this was pretty much equivalent to nothing.
• I’ll never forgive Marvel for what they did to Maria Hill
• And if the public’s theory is right about Rhodey’s timeline, I will never ever forgive Marvel, like that would be the cruelest thing ever
• I really still don’t get why Fury left Earth and why he came back and then why he left again, sorry I didn’t get it
• But my whole perspective on Fury changed to the worst, the way he was so indifferent about Maria and Talos’ deaths… and don’t get me started about the way in 30 years he was no help to the skrulls and only used them as field agents
• So Gia… what a way to underuse Emilia, she was just there, had no real dialogue, action, development, she was just there looking green, my only hope is that marvel makes it up in the future films since I guess Gia is now the most powerful creature in the universe
• Gravik, like he totally had a point about resenting Fury and having a vendetta against him. I didn’t connect to any of the skrulls barely there storylines but I find it so cruel that Gravik and Fury couldn’t even get a final scene to talk about all their issues, Fury left him and lied to all of his people, and Gravik killed two of the most important people in his life but they never got a 1 on 1
• The whole skrull storyline is dumb once you consider asgardians have been living on earth for the last 8 years?
• And hating on aliens seems so stupid to me cause what about all the aliens that helped us during the thanos fight? Like thor, carol denvers, asgardians? You are hating them too? And speaking of which, why didn’t skrulls help there? So that way they could’ve been soft launched into society
• And my solution, why not just give the skrulls an island? Like north or south pole since they like the cold, but give them an island where they can be skrulls and it could be off limits for humans
The show is well acted and intriguing but doesn’t leave you with much.
Saying that watching this was like watching paint dry is insulting to paint. It was like watching Samuel L Jackson watching paint dry or sleepwalking through a mediocre script.
The harvest shit is so ridiculously funny . I was like am I high or something?:type_4:.
I didn't like Gravik in any of the prior episodes, but man did Ben-Adir knock it out of the park in his scene with L. Jackson. It's a shame he didn't get more chances to show this.
The finale was the only episode of the show I really liked. It's time to dial back the Marvel content and focus on quality not quantity. I'm happy Bob Iger is open and honest about this.
Very cool to see G'iah so powerful and fighting Gravik. The final scene between Fury and his wife was also quite heartfelt and kinda beautiful. Overall, I thought the series was mediocre but I did enjoy this finale.
So they made Emilia Clarke super powerful again. Which means they'll probably kill her off the most stupid way ever. Yeah I still feel that GoT finale hate
I commented after I "hope this doesn't dovetail in the end stretch like most MCU shows", and sigh. Still only Loki and Ms. Marvel that have solid-or-above MCU show finales so far.
I barely could imagine something worse.
8/10
Great
Well I enjoyed the
Heck out of that,
was it perfect no,
should this have come
out after "The Marvels"
to make way more sense
yes ABSOLUTELY.
With that being said
it was aggressively
entertaining and I enjoyed
this so much more than
Loki S1,S2.
I would have liked
more of Gravik,and
have him onscreen with
Fury. G'iah becoming the
most powerful being in
The MCU
okay cool as long as this
sets up
"The British Avengers"
with her leading the
Charge and Sonya as
a Fury type character
for that team.
all in all for better or
for worse this show is
now my 4th favourite
D+ show.
(Subject to change).
Of course, it's G'iah who confronts Gravik... and of course, Rhodey's discovered and the attack can be prevented. And all the impersonated characters are alive and well. But exactly when they were exchanged, which is the interesting part, at least when it comes to Rhodey, isn't mentionned. PotUS displays his stupidity in declaring all aliens enemies.
Instead we get another couple of Fury-Varra scenes which I still don't care about... and Fury returns to his space station because the Kree apparently are ready to talk. So what?
It's pretty telling that the final 3 episodes all didn't reach the 40 minutes mark... the whole meagre plot could have been told in 4 episodes. At least, completist-me had to spend less time to actually finish that show.
There were some nice character moments in the last two episodes, and I like the visuals of the rival Super Skrulls, but this remained an uninvolving and surprisingly unthrilling thriller series. Given how long it took to come out, it felt surprisingly rushed and rough. I'd really like to know what things were like behind the scenes.
This show turned out to be a bland, boring, and rather incomprehensible mess. I had been looking forward to seeing more Samuel L. Jackson before the show had started, but it ended up being nothing but disappointing. Really felt like they forced out something so that they could get Jackson in a TV show before whatever contract he's under expires.
Gravik's speech to Fury was one of the only decent moments of the whole show. But even that rang hollow, because his character was flimsy at best. Not to mention that it turned out to not even be Fury, so the moment was wasted.
I didn't care for the series as a whole, but I really liked the finale. Will be interesting to see what they do with some of the characters and potential plot lines in the future. Obviously, the show was not well received, so I wouldn't be surprised if they just try to not do much with them, but some pretty important developments happened in the last episode and it would probably be awkward to try to ignore them.
damn marvel really lost it
Good thing they don’t have Superman in the MCU.
This is such bad garbage, even the garbage truck wouldn't pick it up on the side of the road. Bring in the HAZMAT team, and get rid of it as this shit is nuclear waste
not great, not terrible.
BUT they massacred my boys Talos, Fury and Maria just to bring us some Emilia Clark OP Skrull into the MCU.
Not bad. But could have been better.
Really disappointed by the finale .
(Nvm lol I find out why later in the episode) how did fury set up the car at the gate without being caught if there’s an obvious corner right there
Lol is it when we hear Fury cough on his way to the broken door but his body doesn’t move, but when he goes insides and sees gravik his entire body convulses when he coughs
THEY CAN FLY????? WHERE WERE THESE FUCKING SUPERMAN/WONDER-MAN POWERS AT BEFORE???? This is like she hulks finale where everyone is using crazy abilities that they could’ve used the entire season that also would’ve saved a main characters life
THEY FUCKING SHOT DON MF CHEADLE, nvm lol and Irsh Jack Frost is alive
The Queen of England and the Queen of the 7 kingdoms joining forces
Why did they waste a cool ass storyline in 10 seconds??? Why not focus season 2 on the aftermath of the president declaring international war on all alien life forms instead of a few videos lol
It’s funny seeing Samuel L Jackson pretend to love looking at his alien wife/knowing they just told him to look at her like that
This show has had its moments and a lot happens MCU wise but it just felt hollow, particularly this episode. We got some big reveals which haven't been given any clarity in how they canonically make sense, as well as whether it was necessary to make these kinds of world events on Disney+ instead of a theatrical cut with closer ties to the Secret Invasion instead of redundant interpersonal drama thrown in to fill time. I've still been pretty entertained the whole way through the show, but some decisions have left me feeling indifferent.
What can I say? I'm a sucker for a love story.... And, towards the end Varra maintaining the face of Priscilla , as beautiful as it is, seemed a bit too close to a fetish. Something to pull out on date night, but -- anyway.
"Beloved," is where I am glad they left it.
lmao wtf is this :sob:
I just don't know how to feel about this. Sure the fight at the end was amusing at times but Gravik's end felt incredible anticlimactic and the whole thing just felt flat. I just don't think a big digital fight scene is what I wanted. I liked this show for feeling different from the other MCU shows earlier in the season but here they do the classic thing of shoehorning in a big fight at the end. The whole plan Fury and G'iah had for that fight also just felt a bit dumb. Fury's arc also falls flat since it wasn't actually him having all of those good character moments with Gravik. He does get some nice resolution with Priscilla though so that was nice at least. This also left us with more questions 100% as a tactic to get us to keep coming back for future projects which is annoying. Still some decent moments and I don't think this was awful but it certainly wasn't very good and ends the show on a bit of a whimper.
Definetly in the weak side of Marvel. Still, it was a bit better than She-Hulk or Ms Marvel, but not by much. The adaptation wasn't even close to what could we had if it was adapted into several movies. The whole plot felt pretty weak. The fight scene was a bit cool ngl, but at some points the CGI was terrible (again, still decent for a series). I liked the character of Olivia Colman; and that is pretty much it. We didn't get much info on what Fury has been doing at SABRE (i'm guessing maybe in Cap Marvel 2) or when Rhodey was replaced. For me is barely a 5, and i'm being generous.
Very disappointed with this final episode. Should have been much better. :confused:
Shout by YavothBlockedParent2023-07-26T19:15:33Z
Well that was absolutely terrible. Highly amusing how they even managed to do the old "hero fights villain with same powers but EVIL" trope. Shame a bunch of really good actors allowed themselves to be wasted on this.