[7.4/10] So here’s the thing about Secret Invasion. You could wipe away the global threat, and I’d probably still be on board if it was just a show about Fury and Talos going back and forth about who owes whom from the old days. Throw two great actors together, have them bounce off some real shit, and I’m there. Maybe I’m an easy mark.
Suffice it to say, I like the concept behind this one. On a nuts and bolts level you have a big set piece to build to. A nuclear submarine might fire upon a NATO plane. The Skrulls want to use this event to cause World War III. It’s up to Fury and Talos to stop it. On the one side, you have the two of them holding the Skrull infiltrator with the power to halt the attack hostage in the hopes of getting an abort code. On the other, you have a hesitant seaman cajoled by his compatriot to follow orders despite his hesitation. The episode mines the tension from that well.
On the one hand, it gives Fury and Talos the win. It takes some drastic action, but they get the abort code in time. It takes different methods. Fry wants to torture the Skrull terrorist. Talos wants to find another way until the guy insults his daughter. But in the end, at the last minute, they’re able to avert disaster. The smart editing and ratcheting tension as the two vessels near one another works superbly.
What I appreciate is that it’s a win and a loss. The good guys stop the grand attack that would ignite geopolitical conflict. But there is a cost. Gravik leaked the details to G’iah to determine whether or not she was the turncoat. And when the day is saved, it confirms his suspicions, and he kills her. The blend of victory for our heroes with the silver lining (or whatever its negative equivalent is) that the simple act of winning burns G’iah as a double agent, is the kind of complexity and brutal poetic irony that good spy shows thrive on.
I dig it for multiple reasons. For one, Emilia Clarke has been oddly flat on the show to date. Maybe the idea is that she’s worn out from the costs of war. Maybe it’s that she’s feeding a cool head so as not to give anything away. But whatever the reason, the dampened presence means it’s no great loss for the show to see her depart.
More to the point, it’s made plain here that G’iah is one of the few things still potent enough to get Talos’ dander up. He’ll debate politics with Gravik all day, but it’s only when the guy starts threatening his daughter that he flies off the handle and gets stabby and choke-y. (Think of him as the reverse Homer Simpson.) He’s the one insisting on showing mercy to the Skrull who’s about to launch a nuke, but when the guy calls G’iah a traitor, he shoots him dead. Talos has been portrayed as a forgiving, merciful man, especially with his own people, but he has a red line, and Gravik crossed it with a dead body on the outskirts of his compound. I’m compelled to see the fall out from that.
But mostly I just want to see more of him and Fury needling each other. I don't know. I kind of hate Fury in this, but I also like that? He’s shar and presumptuous with the people who’ve helped him. But that’s also a kind of realistic depiction of how someone who’d devoted their life to the job might be. It’s not always fun, but there’s truth in it.
So seeing Tlos tell him that it was Talos and the Skrulls who set him up for success, who gave him his best intel, who helped him rise up the ranks, and he’s not even asking for gratitude, just acknowledgement, it hits home. Fury’s always been brutally pragmatic. It’s what spurred the Avengers’ mistrust in the first place. So seeing one of his closest allies feel put out by the guy, ignored and underappreciated, has weight.
Maybe it’s just Ben Mendolsohn killing it. But something about these two old war dogs going back and forth about who owes who, about what lies ahead, is enough for me. Secret Invasion isn’t a perfect show by any means, but seeing two great actors, through two well-established characters, hash out the past, is more than enough for me.
The only part I’m not really on board with is Fury’s surprise wife, Varra. It just feels so out of nowhere. And it’s barely established that they’re together before the show reveals her as an agent of Gravik. Woodard is good in the role, and there’s meaning to be wrung from the notion of a veritable war widow forced to lose her spy husband twice. But since it all comes so fast and so rushed, it’s hard for the relationship, or the betrayal, to come with much force.
Overall, this episode is pretty firmly the Fury and Talos show, and when it leans into that, the strength of the performers, and the old spook barbs they throw back and forth, is enough to carry the hour.
Another mid and short episode...
I was shouting "Dracarys" at tv when Gravik shot her, alas
Was Rhodey "Man on the Phone" at the end?!
what the hell is going on?
There. He said it!
SUPER SKRULLS
The AI generated intro bothers me, though... Was there no more money to make one so they paid 5 bux to generate an AI one of mostly images? :sweat_smile:
Tf, Marvel...
Confirmated. He is a Skrull.
Wow Secret Invasion HATES fury. They just claimed he only climbed up the ranks of Shield because of the skrulls. THEY did all the work. He just claimed responsibility for what they did.
Kingsley Ben-Adir is terrible. Finding myself laughing out loud through this. Not good
The Nick Fury and Talos dynamic is holding me on. It's gotten a lot better since the first episode but my hope for Marvel to capture the more covert, espionage, mysterious angle kinda died.
I'm definitely enjoying this story! It's fun to see Nick be a little bit more of a leader in this episode than in the previous one, although this still feels more like "two old men come out of retirement" and less like "two world class spies are ready to kick butts". There's a character death and some extremely nuanced acting here from Emilia Clarke and Kingsley Ben-Adir, but the other actors show out here too.
There doesn't seem to be enough runtime left for me to get exactly what I want out of this, but it's by no means bad.
Continuing to dig this show. I just hope they don't fall into the other issues that the MCU shows have had in the past and they're able to keep things focused and consistent through the end. I love that they had a scene in here addressing the conflict between Fury and his wife instead of just brushing over it. Really loved the Talos and Gravik scene in the restaurant, reminding us that Talos doesn't mess around especially when you mess with his daughter. They're also maintaining the more serious tone with little bits of violence we don't usually see from Marvel which is great. But the best part of the show so far has to be Fury and Talos' relationship. It has some moments of truly great humor but also a lot of history, nuance, depth, and genuine connection. The dialogue scenes worked well to flesh out that history and relationship so they felt purposeful. The show is keeping Fury at the center and it's definitely benefitting from that as well. Gravik is shaping up to be a pretty good villain who feels threatening and formidable. All in all a great episode and I'm looking forward to the second half of the series.
damn. poor talos. hope he at least makes it out of this one alive.
Little weird seeing Davidoff Butler in live action, but fun nonethless.
Tired. Everyone just seem tired. Especially Samuel L. Jackson. Just feels like he had agreed to a contract he could not get out off. But other actors also feel tired and Ben-Adir is just horrible as the villain. Not even Mendelsohn is up to his usual standard.
Boring episode and man.. Gravik is a really lame villain so far.
8/10
Another Great episode
A very very tense one
at that. Love the
Duo of Fury and Talos
it's great back-story
building info that just
makes everything so damn
tight, it's actually really
Clever and so well thought
out. (The fact that Talos
called Fury Nick in
Captain Marvel and than
to do it again in this was
fantastic writing, solid
in fact because Fury
would straight remember
what that meant with
Talos saying Nick,
he knew he wouldn't
unless there was something
up).
This Show continues
to impress me and each
and every episode
continues to up the stakes.
Speaking if stakes the
ending of this episode
better not be as it seems,
not after episode 1,
I can't take another.
So, G'iah has been feeding her father information the whole time, and is discovered... okay. Let's see if she's really dead, or she kind of downloaded herself into a new body. And of course, the Skrulls are working on their own superhero serum. And they have their own civil war going on. Urgh.
Otherwise, pretty boring episode. I like Fury and Talos' scenes together... but so far, this series doesn't really do much for me.
Did G'iah just... die? The body count in this series is pretty surprising.
This is a pretty intriguing trust no one show. Critics are boring to rate it lower than She-Hulk.
And I thought F&WS was unfun to watch. At least we got a short Olivia Colman scene.
Amazing, they killed off the only character that was even remotely interesting & I feel like she didn’t even really get a full character arc….. I’m going to watch the rest but I’m kinda bored.
This show just keeps chugging but nothing really happens…. Fury and Talos back and forth is mildly fun… but everyone just seems so bored and tired on this show.
I was digging the first 2 but now it’s dragging. And it was the shortest one yet.
Talos to Fury: 'Oh, I'm sorry, did I break your concetration?'
Too short, basically only one thing happens which could have easily been combined with another episode. It's probably because of the forced "6 episode movie" format crap. Just make movie or go full nuts.
Can we kick Bob’s ass now?
the good, the bad and the ugly. whats next?
Shout by ThomasVIP 12BlockedParent2023-07-05T09:59:08Z
The ongoing tête-à-tête between Ben Mendelsohn and Samuel L. Jackson is really interesting and delightful.