This is where the series starts to get serious and dark.
overrated. the worst harry potter movie, poor screenplay, poor visual. the book is much way better.
The entry of Voldemort into the series at the end of Goblet of Fire means that this entry feels much less episodic and more of a direct continuation from the fallout of the last film. There is an even greater focus on jettisoning much of the extraneous plot and whimsy of Rowling’s world that mean even Ron and Hermione add little to the story. Harry’s guilt and trauma and his desire to isolate himself form a large part of the plot and Radcliffe manages to pull off Harry’s anger and frustration without ever making him unlikeable. That the film returns to the importance of Harry’s friends in his life is unsurprising, but the film balances this with the repercussions of Voldermort’s return on the wider world that Rowling has created - the ongoing thread of denial of the truth and control of information seemingly even more relevant than when the film was made and Imelda Staunton is a wonderful addition to the cast. The previous entry has also given the series a real sense of danger to the magical powers shown, and there is also a much stronger visual style to the film here than the rather flat Goblet of Fire, the final act in the Ministry of Magic being a great example. It’s a shame the final emotional beats of the film don’t hit home as strong as they should and it’s somewhat ironic that after complaints that previous entries tried to include too much of the books, this is the one entry in the film series that would have benefitted from more material to work with.
I wasn't a huge fan of this movie the first time I saw it back in theaters as it was very confusing and to be honest, without the understanding about how it fit into the overall story, it was kind of boring. However, I also hadn't read the book at the time, and that would have helped me a lot.
I just rewatched the movie yesterday after reading the book to my children and liked it a LOT more. I was actually impressed how the filmmakers took the 800+ pages of book story & made it fit into 2 hrs & 15 mins of screen time. Sure, it's not perfect & the kids were a little miffed at what they left out from the book story, but it gave me the chance to explain about choices filmmakers have to make when adapting a story that people know so well. Besides, all that stuff they liked was STILL in the book...it's not like it is erased from existence.
Having said that, even not having read the book, the character Dolores Umbridge was done perfectly. In my opinion, she is one of the great villains I've ever seen even though she's ignorant of her own villain-ness [villainity?]. I wanted to punch her in the face when I saw the movie, and only wanted to do it more after reading the book. That's a good character.
Favorite part of the movie: The duel between the Death Eaters & Order of the Phoenix. Would have liked the Dumbledore/Voldemort showdown to be a little longer or have been able to include more verbal back-and-forth between them.
But, if you're ONLY watching the movies without the added depth of the information in the book, this is one of the weaker chapters in the series.
I’ve seen this one the least because it was always skipped on abc family’s Harry Potter weekends. I can understand why because there really isn’t too much of a plot advance with Voldemort. Still that final duel is great. Dolores is infuriating and worse than Voldemort. The kids working together and learning spells is wonderful. A solid entry to the franchise and where everything starts to get real.
Confusing at times but a good movie nonetheless. Harry tries to isolate himself but must learn that he is not alone. Luna is adorable, Umbridge and Bellatrix are despicable and the confrontation in the Ministry of Magic is amazing.
"Harry...It is not how you are the same, it is how you are not"
I was always confused by the prophecy. It makes such an emphasis on Harry and Voldemort not being able to co-exist, but we know that's complete bullshit. Voldemort will literally continue to be as long as his horcruxes are, and Potter is one of them. So it would make much more sense for the prophecy to be about how the only way to kill Voldemort is to kill Harry Potter, or something like that.
My biggest issue with this movie is that Harry comes across as pathetic and weak. He talks a big game but then takes every opportunity to cower or run away. It's especially telling when Ron seems less dimwitted than Harry. Definitely the weakest movie in the series.
“Hey Harry this one has your name” :asterisk_symbol:blank piece of metal:asterisk_symbol:
Harry and his friends are getting older and the story (much, much) darker. Which is not a bad thing, it is just different than the previous movies!
Awesome flick.
Awsome
Is very good
Umbridge: "I will have order!"
As soon as you see Dolores Umbridge you remember this one's the good stuff! I love that they put her right next to Snape at the table in her first scene at Hogwarts, what a contrast. Those two together make the best comedy. Imelda Staunton is brilliant and she makes this movie great for me, a villain you love to hate. The "taking matters into your own hands and fighting back against the system" storyline fits perfectly and you can feel our heroes maturing. The romance seeds are way better than what we got in Goblet of Fire and the emotional moments hit pretty hard. There's maybe too many characters at this point and a lot of important ones get sidelined which is a shame but the new ones get the spotlight so it all evens out in the end I guess. Luna is a weird addition, loved her scene with the Thestrals but apart from that she's just a weird choice. Epic third act! Dumbledore vs. Voldemort is still one of my favorite moments.
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None of the Harry Potter films are bad, and Order of the Phoenix is no exception.
I find Umbridge to be quite easily the most detestable character in the whole of Harry Potter, which is quite the feat considering the plethora of murderers and other awful people we meet along the way.
Sirius' death is always an impactful moment, regardless of how many times I rewatch this. However, I am left a little confused when Lupin holds Harry back from going after Bellatrix, only to not even attempt to chase after him once he breaks free from his embrace. Everyone just freely lets Harry run after her, leading to him literally having to face Bellatrix and Voldemort alone. Good thing Dumbledore shows up! The duel that takes place between Voldemort and Dumbledore is one of the high points of this entire series of films. If it's not the single best duel in all of Harry Potter, then it's undoubtedly in the top three.
I have a few slight gripes. The whole arrangement of Harry and friends arriving at the ministry is rather bizarre. First off, if Harry believes that Sirius is being attacked by Volemort as he's having the vision, then what is the point in trying to get there after that? We go through numerous scenes of Harry gathering friends, talking, then being interrogated by Umbridge, taken out into the forest, then having to hurry back to Hogwarts, only to then talk to some more friends before then deciding to fly all the way to London. This is a lot of time to pass after having that vision. Harry is an utter moron if he thought he would get there in time to save Sirius. Remember how he saw the vision of Arthur? Arthur was gravely injured and found within what appeared to be probably thirty minutes at absolute most. Yeah, Sirius was a goner. In that same vein, why was it so easy for a bunch of fourteen-year-olds to just break into the ministry of magic with what seemed to be zero resistance? Shouldn't that place be heavily guarded and hard to access? Then those same kids manage to fend of a bunch of seasoned Deatheaters for a good chunk of time. I really like the resolution to all of this, and if I switch my mind off, it's good fun, but there's no denying that the whole setup is poorly orchestrated.
In the end, despite some glaring issues, this is still a strong film with many shining moments.
The fight between dumbledoor and lord Voldemort was epic
63 | There was a great potential Harry Potter franchise not to use it properly which is a political element. It seemed oversimplified with Cornelius Fudge's denial. He had many employees below him that should be warned of him or given second thought but this film was not intended to show it at all. It put the Ministry of Magic seems amateur at governing. Anyways we got a good story element which was Albus Dumbledore's secret group, the old ones, and the new ones. This was the first time the Harry Potter franchise wider the story focused not only on Harry, Ron, and Hermione. Hope we would get more of that in the next films. The main antagonist of this film surprisingly was the new headmaster, put it in mind Voldemort only came at the last moment of this film. Dolores Umbridge was the most irritating character ever written in Harry Potter films.
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Rating: 62.54
Plot
P1: 1.1
P2: 1.2
P3: 1.1
P4: 0.7
Director: David Yates
Favorite Characters
1.7: Michael Gambon as Albus Dumbledore
1.6: Gary Oldman as Sirius Black
1.4: Daniel Radcliffe as Harry Potter
1.3: Imelda Staunton as Dolores Umbridge
1.1: Evanna Lynch as Luna Lovegood
0.9: Ralph Fiennes as Lord Voldemort
Written by Kornelius Harda Wicaksana
Those paintings that are copy’s of someone’s consciousness and trapped in the painting… why hasn’t anyone tried to put whatever the spell is to put a copy of their consciousness in a doll or a ball of magic energy that they can then put into a doll and control… then live forever in the doll until technology in the 2000s get better and put it in some robot
The first few scenes were actually quite promising, but there’s a remarkable drop in quality as the film continues. It just felt like they even gave up trying and hired a director who listens to the producers, which is understandable as judging by the ratings it doesn’t look like fans were able to tell the difference. You can feel the bad taste and lazy direction in each shot, especially towards the end when it just becomes a parade of green screens and flimsy CGI. It could work with the lighthearted drama in the middle, but definitely not with the dark moments.
The script is not helping, as it’s pretty much running in circles for two hours waiting for the mandatory magic duel at the end. It speaks clearly that despite the title being “Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix”, the Order of the Phoenix shows up just in a couple of scenes only to get their asses kicked.
Will still remain a precious film to remember for the ridiculous green screens of Ralph Fiennes acting silly over cloudy stock footage.
Story: 8/10...this is the movie when the kids finally begin growing into big boys and girls. They literally get a seat at the adult table, and the narrative does as well. Good exploration of how the systems of power organize themselves in alliance with evil and as the counter-resistance. Really enjoyed some of the political themes explored here.
Dialogue: 7/10...again, growing up a bit.
Performances: 8/10...fewer and fewer scenes of overacting. The Umbridge character is done perfectly. Less Draco is good. Mainly just better acting by the main student characters.
Misc.: 8/10...not a lot of expansion of the world and a lot of time spent in the Room of Requirement. But some cool scenes flying around London and a good score to boot.
Overall: 8/10
The opening scene is great. I like the opening. Yeah, the opening.
Great movie! In this one the storyline really takes off and is getting a lot darker which is great for the series.
Definitely one of my favorites. Due to plenty of suspense and excitement. As well as a wonderful musical score.
Also you don’t love to hate Professor Umbridge, you just hate Professor Umbridge. She makes an otherwise charming movie hard to watch. Some how she makes Voldemort look likable. Even some of his scenes are less hard to watch.
The last 30 minutes are great with amazing fight and a lot of characters evolved . The clash between Voldemort and Dempeldor was great
The Death of Sirius Black is heart breaking
My rating is 8.5
I enjoyed it while I watched it, but again I wasn't too invested in the characters. In my opinion Voldemort is still too much of a "guy behind it all". It feels kinda forced to fear him, since we know so little about him and his power, except for that he is evil and he killed Harry's parents? I hope there's some relatable motivation for his character.
Now, In my opinion this is the best Harry Potter. I feel that the actress who plays Umbridge, although the character is rather infuriating, she plays it very well. I really love this installment of the franchise.
Kudos to Imelda Staunton. I don't believe I've ever hated any movie character as much as Umbridge. Not the Malfoys, Bellatrix, not Voldemort, not Darth Vader, Sauron, the Joker or Luthor... who else is there? Thanos, Loki? Agent Smith? Hans Grubber? Nope. No one is as insufferable and unbearable as Dolores Umbridge.
Too bad she did such a good job... I almost hate this movie just because of her :sweat_smile:
Some wands n shit..maybe a gold gold ball with wings lol wtf I can't remember mannnn
Not sure why I keep watching these Harry Potter movies, since none of them has really worked for me. I guess I hope they'll get better as the story gets darker and I'm curious to see why they are/were so popular. In the books I liked part 3 and 4 (prisoner of azkaban, goblet of fire) the most, but figured the later books had more potential for movies.
As it turns out only the first two movies lived up to my expectations (childish, but more or less the same cozy atmosphere as the books) and in the others they couldn't portray the story, characters, atmosphere.. Well, pretty much anything, except the Snape character and the introduction of Lord Voldemort in Goblet of Fire, they are well done.
Hopefully the following movies can get some of the feeling of threat and urgency across, while maintaining the homely feel of Hogwarts.
It's less plot-heavy than some of the other ones, but let's be real. You only watch this one for two reasons:
1. Umbridge getting her comeuppance
2. That epic wizard duel
"you're not going mad. i can see them too. you're just as sane as i am."
luna!!! it's been so long, i forgot how much i enjoyed this movie.
lupin's face when sirius dies... stab me in the heart Perhaps
Ah yes, the angsty one. In terms of story this might just be the boldest Potter film. Whether intentional or not, this movie points out the link between Thatcherism and misinformation, and how those two can create a breeding ground for fascism. Yeah, it’s pretty insane for the kind of movie that it is. It’s a fast paced, thrilling story that puts a lot of the building blocks in place for the upcoming films. Our heroes have to learn how to fight the system and stand up for what’s right, it’s all that classic punk stuff. As per usual, I love the attention to detail in the worldbuilding, it’s a world that’s very easy to get lost in. The thestrals are very well realized, but I’m less enthusiastic about the fake looking Grawp. The cinematography and soundtrack are both excellent, there are a lot of neat visual touches here that aren’t in most of the other films (some trippy, dreamy imagery; interesting scene transitions). I also love how the action in this one is directed. The dementor attack is very atmospheric and Dumbledore vs Voldemort still looks very impressive to this day, with that scene culminating in a very cathartic emotional pay-off. The acting’s mostly good, but even at this point there are still a few scenes where Radcliffe and Watson still hadn’t quite found their footing as actors yet, and at this point Rupert Grint easily feels the most comfortable with his role. Imelda Staunton and Helena Bonham McCarter are perfect new additions to the franchise, and Michael Gambon’s performance feels more consistent with his character here than in Goblet of Fire. There are some minor choices with the dialogue and story that I don’t like, all of which are small issues, but they do add up. Like, why is the order of the phoenix flying over the Thames in plain sight? Why is Umbridge’s final scene so underwhelming (and why did they omit the reveal that she sent the dementors?!). Still, I think this one’s great and easily one of the best Potter films.
8/10
After careful consideration, I've decided to increase my 4,5 to 5, making this this 4th Harry Potter movie I've given 5 out of 5. It has a much darker tone but it creates a nice cliffhanging build-up to year 6 and 7. I still can't believe Father Brown, Eudoria Holmes, Chef Slowik, Colm Doherty, Jim Gordon, Hans Gruber, Charlotte Bartlett, P. L. Travers and Ares did a movie together... It's out of this world
my favourite harry potter installation :sparkles:
I don’t think I have ever seen so many cuts in a movie before. Horrible direction and as a result the plot is disconnected and the interactions between the actors are very awkward and cold as a result. You can tell something isn’t right with the direction and cuts when it is the shortest film in the saga whereas the respective book is the longest and the most dense of the series.
I don’t think I have ever seen so many cuts in a movie before. Horrible direction and as a result the plot is disconnected and the interactions between the actors are very awkward and cold as a result. You can tell something isn’t right with the direction and cuts when it is the shortest film in the saga whereas the respective book is the longest and the most dense of the series.
8.5/10 - Many beautiful but also quite a few dark moments. RIP Patfoot.
Flying through London on a broomstick must be awesome!
It's cool to learn about the Order of the Phoenix that Dumbledore founded back in the days.
Luna is strange but funny and kind.
Dolores Umbridge is neither - she's definitely one of the worst... :o
The Weasley products are awesome :)
Fred and George are really stepping things up!
They really got Dolores with their final trick <3
Dumbledore vs. Dolores was nice! As was Dumbledores escape when they wanted to imprison him in Askaban. "I have no intention of going to Askaban." "Dumbledore has got style."
Dumbledore's army was a great idea (apart maybe from the name :D).
The Room of Requirement came in quite handy.
The fights at the end are awesome!
Apart from Sirius dying... :o
Especially Dumbledore vs. Tom was epic <3
Fudge: "He's back."
Probably my favorite film of the franchise as Harry really comes into his own taking matters into his own hands with the help of his friends as he builds an army of students to prepare for the battle with Voldermort. New foes enter the picture and it really builds up excitement for the dash to the finish line of the final 3 films.
The series continues to move toward darker and more foreboding themes in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. In this installment the Ministry of Magic seizes control of Hogwarts while Harry and several other students form a secret club in order to learn how to defend themselves against dark magic. The cast does a fairly good job at adapting to the more serious tone, and are joined by Helena Bonham Carter; who adds a lot energy and charisma. However, the special effects are rather poor and end up weakening the film. Yet despite a few weaknesses, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix is a solid adventure film that’s full of danger and excitement.
The Harry Potter series
Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (2001) https://trakt.tv/movies/harry-potter-and-the-philosopher-s-stone-2001
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (2002) https://trakt.tv/movies/harry-potter-and-the-chamber-of-secrets-2002
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (2004) https://trakt.tv/movies/harry-potter-and-the-prisoner-of-azkaban-2004
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (2005) https://trakt.tv/movies/harry-potter-and-the-goblet-of-fire-2005
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (2007) https://trakt.tv/movies/harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix-2007
Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (2009) https://trakt.tv/movies/harry-potter-and-the-half-blood-prince-2009
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1 (2010) https://trakt.tv/movies/harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows-part-1-2010
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 (2011) https://trakt.tv/movies/harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows-part-2-2011
Harry had a hair cut
The boy with the lightning-bolt scar and his playmates return to Hogwarts for a fifth term, having sprouted almost overnight into young adults. Daniel Radcliffe has undergone the most striking change, filling out his robes with broad shoulders and a strong jawline, which ties in well with his character's pubescent bouts of temper and gloom.
As the kids have matured, so has the filmmaking. This entry continues the franchise's trend towards the serious, both in plot and technique. Harry learns more about his parents' personalities, realizes they may not have been the virtuous angels he once believed, launches a private rebellion against a strict new professor and investigates members of the opposite sex. The school grounds feel more ancient and formidable, the dialog less fluttering and whimsical, the action scenes far better realized. That last note has been a trouble spot for the series so far, as it's struggled to master believable special effects over the years. They've finally managed it this time: the large-scale wizarding battle at the end of the film is head and shoulders above anything we've seen so far.
Some knowledge of the books is a prerequisite - the opening scenes abruptly leap right into the action with little preamble, and the rush of new faces could be dizzying without some sort of primer - but that's nothing new, and I suppose one of the benefits of running such a lengthy series is that eventually we can do away with formalities and get right to the meat. Whittling down a nearly-900-page tome into roughly two hours of film does result in some exclusions: Ron and Hermione once again have very little to do, relegated to the background in many scenes, and several surviving subplots find themselves combined or streamlined for pacing reasons. That's understandable, something of a necessary evil for what's still, certainly, among the best efforts in the series. Things are starting to get interesting.
I'm glad I rewatched this movie as it made me realise that it's better than I had in my mind. I'm not fully satisfied of course – how can you, after having read the book as a child. Altogether it's still one of the better movies of the franchise.
The book is always better? Not in this case:
http://reading-rebel.blogspot.com/2017/10/movie-review-harry-potter-and-order-of.html
The plot doesn't stand up to any scrutiny and there's too much distracting CGI (I really wish they'd use forced perspective for the giant in the woods, for example). Basically nothing of relevance happens at all and at the end we are basically back to square one.
That said, I did enjoy various aspects of the movie. The battle between Dumbledore and Voldemor was nice with more than just an exchange of balls of light. There are also some important character moments and it's nice to see the students actually taking things into their hands.
Marks the turning point, Harry goes from being reactive to proactive, but the most notably changed are Hermione and Neville
not what i expected, many missing point
This is easily my fave film in the series right now! It's powerful and has the most meaning for me! Although I have not finished the book yet. Prisoner of Azkaban used to be my fave but the latter movies are starting to be as time goes on. Nonetheless ❤
rewatch | My least favorite part, so this movie is also a least favorite. Missed a lot of book topics. Sirius. :( Bella. #loveforever
overrated. the worst hary potter movie, poor screenplay, poor visual. the book is much way better. [2]
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This is where the series starts to get serious and dark